NaijaEcash: Kudos to the Lagos state Governor. At least we can see the effect of his government expenditures on the populace. Some governors are still busy making noise instead of doing something that will put smile on the faces of the masses.
KunleOshob: The scriptures in the above link apply to most of the preachers parading themselves as men of God today.
He explains in the first paragraph : .There are too many Oppressors, Manipulators, Conspirators and Pretenders masquerading as apostles, prophets, as G.Os or Bishops (etc) in the name of the LORD.
People need to know that most of these Pastors use the bible to instill fear in their congregation.WONDERS SHALL NEVER END
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U? « #64 on: November 04, 2009, 03:31 PM » I’m Tired of this entire gimmick 3 11 2009
Putting pen to paper for this …Oh My God. I’m tired of thinking thoughts that can’t be expressed or can be expressed but I’ve not yet expressed. I ‘m tired of thinking someone would take offense and label me a devil’s advocate. I’m tired of fearing man when there is a God. I’m tired of hearing that God exists in 3 pieces of physical states-one unseen and unfelt, one seen and felt; and the last unseen but felt. I’m tired of thinking my Maths is bad, or is 1+1+1=1? I’m tired. Somebody help! I’m tired of celebrating festivities deeply rooted in paganism and idolatry. I’m tired of asking questions and being told to just believe. I’m tired!
I’m tired of going to a place of worship where all I see is naked thighs and breasts. I’m tired of sexy girls visiting us in the hostels on the excuse of visitations. I’m tired of three fellowships claiming to have the same message slugging it out at the Angola car park on who has the loudest sound systems. I’m tired of paying tithe out of the #1,200 I collect from home. I’m tired of winning souls for Christ through fornication and immoral relationships.
I’m tired of the gospel comic series about the pastor who heals all things even when all those healed are unknown and those known still walk the streets blind, deaf, dumb and crippled. I’m tired of Oyakhilome smiling to the banks while I go unclothed and hungry. Of Oyedepo flying in jets while I stand in Molues. Of Adeboye making millions out of our individual tithes. I’m tired of people flocking to see the fraud called Adeboye/Oyakhilome/Oyedepo/Joshua/Adefarasin/Ajimolowo, oh sorry, Ashimolowo and the rest. I’m tired of people breaking up the chair Adeboye sat on and claiming blessing from it. I’m tired! I’m tired of human worship.
I’m tired of Bonnke sticking to Nigeria while he can’t step on his native German soil where he is wanted for Fraud. I’m tired of Benny Hinn asking for my donations when he is already proved to be a fraud. I’m tired of Ali G being pulled off YouTube because he exposed Benny Hinn. I’m tired of people flocking to these churches even when all these are in the media. Ah, shhhhh….I’m tired of crowd pulling juju o.
I’m tired of Church ushers looking like ball ushers and cheerleaders. I’m tired of praying to and worshipping Jesus when God is still alive. I’m tired of worshipping the cross, a symbol of devilish cults and an emblem of death and sorrow. I’m tired of people threatening me with Holy Ghost fire when it’s the fire that they even call while praying.
I may seem confused, investigating religions and so undecided, but not Christianity again. I’m tired!
“Decir, no vendemos”
<<<<From the link posted above>>>
Very funny but i feel this.Its just the rare truth.
I do not accept the Bible as God’s word because it contains thousand of errancies and contradictions that can not be solved, only rationalized. I refuse to accept Jesus as my personal savior, for his behavior and teachings often expose one who should be escaped and not worshipped. I ask that you read this pamphlet in light of the bible’s teachings; Christians should be “open to reason” (James 3:17 ), that we should “reason together ” (Isaiah 1:18) and “he who hates correction will die” (Proverbs 15:10) to understand my perspective that the bible has MANY shortcomings.
1. According to your Bible I am to believe that human kind is sinful for Adam and Eve ate the fruit of knowledge. Why are we being punished for the original sin? After all, they ate the forbidden fruit, we didn’t. Reason would lead one to say it’s their problem, not ours. Even the bible contradicts itself by claiming in Deuteronomy 24:16, “children shall not be punished for the sins of their fathers.”
2. We are told that the Bible has no scientific errors and is utterly perfect/protected, yet it says the bat is a bird (Leviticus 11:13 & 19), hares chew the cud (Leviticus 11:5-6), and some fowl (Leviticus 11:20-21) and insects (Leviticus 11:22-23) have four legs.
3. sayso [/b]you requested me to read the Book of Revelation of the Christians bible, Heaven is supposed to be a perfect place. It is of course, the place you strive for and name “salvation”. Yet, it experienced a war [b](Revelation 12:7). How can there be a war in a perfect place and if it happened before why couldn’t it happen again? Why would I want to go to a place in which war can occur? That’s exactly what I’m trying to escape, aren’t you?
4. We are told salvation is obtained by faith alone (John 3:18 & 36) and then the Bible claims that it is repentance that shall save us (2 Peter 3:9) yet Jesus told a man to follow the Commandments-Matthew 19:16-1 8 (saving by works)-if he wanted eternal life. So which way is it and how do you know your belief is the correct one?
5. According to the text there are 29 cities listed in Joshua 15:21-32. One need only count them to see that biblical math is not to be trusted. The total is 36.
6. Surely you don’t believe Ecclesiastes 1:9 (“What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun”)? How many cities had an atomic bomb dropped on them prior to 1945, and how many people walked on the moon before 1969?
7. If the Bible is our moral guide, then how can it make pornographic statements such as: “. . . . they may eat their own dung and drink their own piss with you” (2 Kings 18:27)? Also consult Numbers 31 where a whole tribe of people, including the elderly and children are slaughtered. The only survivors were the virginal women, who were later raped by the “just and perfect” Moses and his men. Is that what you want your children reading on Sunday?
8. If God created everything, (Colossians 1:16, Ephesians 3:9, Revelation 4:11 & John 1:3), then he did create the world’s evil (Isaiah 45:7, Lamentations 3:38). Thus, he is responsible!. Any being who could create situations such as rape, death, malnutrition, disease, molestation and murder is certainly not fit for worship.
9. For justice to exist, punishment must fit the crime. No matter how many bad deeds one commits in this world, there is a limit. Yet, hell’s punishment is infinitely greater. It’s eternal. Shouldn’t a sinner suffer until remorse is felt and the crime is atoned for? What “justice” is there in infinite damnation?
10. Maykelly you Claim to be a Christian Woman while busy Calling me a Fool always but you fail to know what Jesus said according to the bible, “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22). Yet, he himself did so repeatedly, as Matthew 27:19, Luke 11:40 & 12:20 show. Shouldn’t he be in danger of hell too? Jesus also told us to “Love your enemies; bless them that curse you," but ignored his own advice by repeatedly denouncing his opposition. Matthew 12:34 (“0 generation of vipers”), and Matthew 23 :27 (“. . . . . hypocrites. . . . . ye are like unto whited sepulchres.“) are excellent examples of hypocrisy. If Jesus himself is a sinner by his own admission then surely he can not be the “perfect lamb of god”.
11. Except those of biased Christian writers, there is no one writing outside the Bible in all of ancient history that clearly refers to Jesus of Nazareth. The decision to dedicate my life to a deity requires at least one shred of conclusive evidence. Your lord knows non believers exist as a result of this, yet he makes no attempt to supply proof. How can the bible claim god wants all in heaven if he doesn’t make efforts to ensure that we all believe in him?
12. Paul says Christianity lives or dies on the Resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:14-17). Yet Jesus made many promises concerning his return during the lifetime of his then followers. (Matthew 16:28: “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom”. Matthew 23:36, 24:34, Mark.9:1, 13:30, Luke 9:27, 21:32 & John 21:22) None of these prophecies have come true. Does this not make Jesus a false prophet? If so wouldn’t that make Christianity invalid?
13. I find the idea that a man had to die for my sins revolting. If God was truly omnipotent he could have simply forgiven us. What kind of deity, would execute one child in order to forgive it’s others? Modern society would call an individual like this sadistic, insane and cruel. Surely, you would not worship a child killer, why do you expect me to? Would you find a judge worthy of the title who would allow my child to be executed in lieu of my sins?
14. John 14:12 states a follower in Jesus can perform any of his works and do it even greater. If you continue to insist I believe in Jesus, it is only fair I may ask of you to show just how strong your faith is. After all, you would be my “mentor” in Christ. I’m not a believer as of yet, but surely you are. Would you mind perhaps resurrecting a dead relative or walking on water?
15. Okay, obviously you didn’t do number 14 and backed out with the “this is metaphorical” excuse. Surely you can try Mark 16:17-1 8 which says believers can drink “any deadly thing” and “it shall not hurt” them. But I don’t think you would be naive enough to drink any arsenic offered. Perhaps I’m wrong and you would be willing to test the Book’s veracity-”lay it on the line” so to speak?
16. All right, so now you have backed out of two of my questions. I’m starting to think you don’t really care about my salvation as much as you claim. Well, unlike your Jehovah, I shall be kind and offer a third chance at redemption. Consider Jesus’ teaching in Luke 6:30 “Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.” Perhaps, if you emptied your wallet and “give of thee” I may seriously ponder accepting Jesus as my savior. [/size]
ABAYOMMY: U are great and cavalry greetings to you in the Mighty name of our Lord Jesus Christ. I love your poster this is abayomi from Living Faith Church, Katsina ( Church Secretary) i am a winner also.
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=353683.msg4949612#msg4949612 date=1258548481]This is Tudór from living faith sahara desert (church Treasurer) would papa oyedepo kindly send his 2 Jets over to help convey us and our camels to the venue?[/quote]LWKM
Well Papa will send his second jet to come pick when it arrives.Right now this Jet is for the Bishop only.Sorry try again.
I found an interesting article and i hope faithfuls read this
Nimshi: 1) Is the Bishop also a medical doctor, or has he a doctorate degree?
2) If the answer to 1) is yes, how is that a relevant title for Shiloh 2009?
3) These claim/promises of "embarrassment with blessings" by God have been made before. Exactly what do they mean this time? With vague promises, it becomes tough to know when something has happened.
4) Could you tell Papa to tone down some on the rhetoric of fantastic moracles accomplished by his hand which we now get to hear every Sunday during the first service? It's becoming sth of an elaborate attempt to continue to boost the ego of the self.
And this: the Choir's interpretation of "He's Able" some three/four weeks ago was quite good. they should try to keep their performance at that level or better. .
Well, the truth is papa will always keep elevating himself and boasting of his miracles and works.If not for anything the business has to keep moving and by instilling fear and hope he actually gets his congregation to believe and give more to God(or shld i say to him).Its jst mere logic.Am sure he will teach his two sons who are now pastors the same thing.For the blind who can't see, he is slowly giving CU to his kids to run.2 of them work there now and any decision that has to be made in that school must pass through them.What is CHRISTIANITY turning into?
Choir na write off.Politics dere alone no go let anyone wey get correct voice or song lead.I was told Papa even banned women from leading praise and worship for a while.The choir pastors from Pastor Mike to Pastor Kenny all of them are big cheats who date small girls and even choristers.They are so boring to watch not to talk of listening to.
[quote author=George_D link=topic=349167.msg4898081#msg4898081 date=1257880134]see where your shallow reasoning is taking you? [/quote]You dey refer to me?
Jakumo: This Gulfstream jet cost 20 million US dollars brand new. Using money he extracted from Nigeria's greediest and most prolific treasury looters, AS WELL AS money that was extracted from Nigeria's poor, Robbing Hood Eunuch Adejale, whose lifetime career comprises stealing from BOTH the rich AND the poor to stuff his overflowing secret bank accounts, bought one of these beauties so that he and his fat ugly wife can fly to Europe non-stop for lavish shopping sprees.
When next you visit Nigeria and discover that there is NEVER any electricity, remember the 16 billion DOLLAR electricity fund looted by ex-president Obasanjo and then shared with Pastor Eunuch Adejale, to finance his jet setting life of conspicuous consumption, in the name of Jeeeeeeeesus, Amen. When next you visit Nigeria, only to find yourelf trapped on the Lagos Expressway for a day and an armed-robbery punctuated night, think of Pastor Eunuch, whose congregation caused that blockage, and then imagine the "Man of Dog" looking down at your sorry ass from his soaring jet, and smiling contentedly over his good fortune arising from your plight.
I dey feel you die.I don't know why people can't separate Religion from Reality.Well hopefully one day most people will realize what some of these pastors are doing.
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=350394.msg4912807#msg4912807 date=1258054477]5 goals in just 125 mins in this competition. He is better than Eduardo.[/quote]Mehn i cnt shout, we too much
pie1ect: Honestly, I am dreaming. When last did a Nigerian football team play this well at any level?
I dey feel u mehn, me sef no knw when i watch correct team like this last.
in me: OJORO NIGERIA
OLD MEN PLAYIN AS UNDER 17
Prophet, whats happenin now?
this one wey i dey see so, water don pass garri oooo
Which one concern you?Abeg leave dem jare, na 2dai
Politics › Re: Oshiomole Actions In Pictures by 9ja4eva: 9:07pm On Nov 19, 2009
[/quote]You dey refer to me?
