₦airaland Forum

raumdeuter:
I am with afrodoc on this. This guy get something underneath. He cannot statistically be winning consistently like that
The oddmakers are not foolish

Okay does he show his bets before the games, Whenever he shows for this weekend lets paste it here for the next 5weeks before the matches o and now lets compare if he is really winning

Hahaha naah egbon. I don win money from him game and e don open my eyes to certain markets that a lot of people overlook

The truth is if you don't play football and carry that silly straight win thing they're many options to gather massive odds and win money.

There are days in basketball for example where teams just score a lot of points, there are days where teams don't score a lot of points and you just hit them all on the under.

If I've not played or understood these games myself I'd also think it's a scam.

For example. He can go to basketball. Pick three NBA games and predict they score 45 points or more each quarter. Those odds might be as high as 8 odds each. And voila that's exactly what happens. Silly stuff like that. I dey tell you. This thing na just grace

afrodoc2:
I don't know much about betting/gambling but i suspect Ekitipikin and others of his ilk who appear to keep beating the odds with astronomically high winnings are running some sort of scam. What the scam is i am not sure but it sure looks suspicious and illogical.

I won't be surprised if they are running a PR scam with the betting companies.

Naah. They're not running scam not in the real sense of what scam means. They're betting influencers yes cos they drag traffic to and away from your bookie. That's normal all over the world.

Someone like Ekitipikin I give it to him. He looks for obscure options and isn't fixated on football like the average Nigerian bettor. He plays mostly baseball and basketball

There's one other nigga that introduced me to Basketball for that your Australia earlier in the year and I made quite a killing. There were weekends I won as high as 240 odds and I won 100 odds several times. If I didn't know about basketball I would think he was running scam too.

Only thing I advise is if you no get like them no put body like them cause all fingers are not equal and they also lose too like everyone else

larride:
Ekitipikin own na something else. His stakes are other people potential wins.

Imagine staking over 100k on games consistently.

That him model. E no fit broke lai lai cos 1 win don wipe him losses for the next 3 months and the thing is when you stake with confidence and risks is when you win. And that's why he keeps winning. Scared money don't make no money.

Nigerians dey forecast sha. I saw a nigga win almost 4k odds with 10 naira. Another won 1k5 odds with 300 naira. Crazy stuff

Itsrm:
God knows how many times I've tried to do this crypto thing especially when I see "success" stories all over social media

My thinking is to put money I can afford to lose. But how much is money I can afford to lose going to generate for me? Is it even worth the risk at all? I've never been able to go beyond this point.

I end up dropping the idea till another "success" story comes my way.

Crypto is like musical chairs if you didn't jump in early it's probably too late.

I think it's more important that you look at realistic gains. Most times it's greed that kills people and the unfortunate lack of understanding that most of the coins out there na shitcoin.

Amoto94:
I don't think it's fair to generalize that they're into fraud what I think happens most times is overestimation of their capacity while underestimating the risks they will face. At the end of the day when problems occur they face difficulties because they weren't prepared for such

As far as Nigeria oh majority of them are running fraud. I don't see any real difference between them and MMM. Just more spri spri lingo

When you're handling people's money, underestimating risks is not an excuse

sod09:
Darlington how far 🤣🤣

Lmaoo reason am nau. No be Ekitipikin dey steady knack 50m every 2 months. At least twice I don see am chop 100m in a 1 week span. Which FinTech wan run that one?

Itsrm:
Lmao 😂

Some go even dey invest long term with them. People get mind I swear

After wetin crypto show me. No be person tell me to begin use my brain.

This investment thing has rendered so many people much poorer and it doesn't get spoken on enough, the way

You wey dey pop for Quilox and person wey dey invest for Naija FinTech same difference

DissTroy:
If you are active on Nigerian Tech Twitter, there's been a buzzing scandal about PayDay, and even more so in the last few days, with accusations of fraud and the weakness of its security systems.

The platform carrying the story is one of Nigeria's two biggest tech news platform, TechNext24.

But here's where it gets even more interesting: The major recounts/stories/testimonies/evidences it is basing its accusations of PayDay's complicity in fraud are gotten from... Guess where? Nairaland!
Nairaland is being referenced to corroborate the accusations.

Now you see why I insist you should counter lies regardless of whose ox gets gored, else years from now these anti-people power-grabbers-by-all-means would try to rewrite history. It might mean being at odds with the 'egbons' you look up to but counter the lies for the greater good.

Nairaland is still the highest-ranking Nigerian website in search results. What you post here matters in the grand scheme of things. Counter the lies for posterity sake. Else Nations Newspaper and others would use the lies as evidence years from now. Your rebuttals shape public opinion in the long run.


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Here's a link to the PayDay fraud article: https://technext24.com/2023/07/06/what-is-happening-at-payday/ .

Is there a Nigerian FinTech company not running some sort of fraud. I feel genuine pity for people keeping their money with these people. E better to try your luck with Sportybet or Bet9ja at least when you lose you know you selected wrong games

chic2pimp:
He'll be fine in the Long run. As I type, clubs around Europe and the Middle East are making inquiries and it won't be long before they start vying for His signature. Hopefully He learns from this and becomes a better man and father.

Once He signs for another club, you might get a few weeks or so of protest outside the stadium before things settles. He just has to accept many people will never forgive and forget and that's fine. Multi Millionaires and Billionaires are hated by many too but that hasn't stopped them from being even more successful and increasing their wealth.

He deserves some humbling and downgrading just as a reminder that actions need consequences. Whether you don't believe he r@ped her you have to believe he at least did something deserving of punishment so leaving Man United was a no brainer.

The fact that his National team career is probably over and he might never hit the ceiling he was headed to is punishment enough and a cautionary tale. Where I draw the line is with people pushing for his career as a professional footballer to be over altogether. At 22? FOH!

I don't care for the shitfvcks that want to protest, they don't have better things to do with their time anyway. I hope some club or club owner with conviction gives him a chance at rehabilitation. A free man deserves the right to earn a liveable wage. Stupid outragers will not feed the wife and baby

raumdeuter:
Performative outrage gan ni
A competition of I dey outraged than you
One will start. Greenwood should be suspended for 10 games, next person will escalate it, no Greenwood should be suspended for a season, Next Greenwood should be suspended from Man utd for life, next Greenwood should be suspended from football for life, next he should never have any job that has contact with human, next Greenwood should be poor and broke for life
Next Greenwood must die, next even his family must suffer

Let's even say and agree Greenwood is guilty

It's like a student that commits exam malpractice at say UNILAG and then gets caught and is expelled. You now say he cannot go and start over at Babcock or at Igbinedion. He shouldn't go to school again. Ban him from all Nigerian universities ok he is banned and decides oya let me go to Ghana, lecturer and students say no you can't go. KNUST must ban him, Legon, Cape Coast. No education for you. Not even Open University

All these people shouting on Twitter I hope they will open GoFundMe or donate to her CashApp. They can't be good for just making noise for internet oh

WhoDeyHause:
#Greenwoodmustbejobless people headed by Riley will contribute for them on the child's naming ceremony so don't disturb yourself.

Leyqute:
Darren Bent said the same thing on talksports.

Mason Greenwood needs help too. Canceling him forever will only hurt him, his family, and the victim he was canceled for.

The problem is they don't think, they're all perfect human beings who have never done wrong or should never get redemption.

I am not even siding with Greenwood, he showed all the signs of a man heading for disaster but I'm seeing now that he's 22, so that happened when he was 19/20.

To sit on that and suggest he should never earn a living is the height of wickedness

By not being able to play his family will suffer, even the woman they are trying to protect will suffer. But what does it matter to these people? All that counts is they have succeeded with their cancel culture and performative outrage.

This is a footballer, not a schoolteacher, lecturer or gyno. Not someone that is frequently in female spaces.

So make e no play ball again? Lol this nigga is really tapped in the head. It's like saying a boxer with an assault charge shouldn't be allowed to box again. Does that make any sense? I'm sure someone like this would have said Tyson should never box again

If Greenwood cannot earn an income how does it help the woman you're fighting for abi them no dey teach una logic for that school of Shitfvckery?

donjazzet:
This life is very funny. I remember when we were diametrically on the opposite sides of the riots in Nigeria, some of your points were laced in empathy albiet deceptively but here you are, making fun of people who for all intents and purposes seek accountability.

Need I remind you what exactly is enraging people? For God's sake we just experienced a woman being raped!!! How can you not feel enraged about it?? Where is the accountability.

Mason did this to a girl. Look at this picture below 10 times and maybe let something in your conscience be pricked!! When did it become fanciful to be heartless and unepathetic?

Wtf is this nigga on about? Anybody with a working brain understands the difference in dynamics between intimate partners and Nigeria riots. If you don't then I don't know how you can be helped.

Let's say the roles were reversed and she broke bottle on his head will you advocate for her to be unemployed or this your campaign na only for one side?

After all your shout and complain the victim is with the man and expecting his child. They've gone to the courts and the CPS, I repeat the CPS with actual skin in the game not a performative NL freedom fighter like you have dropped all charges. We know your type sha, na people like una dey get things to hide and una go still cast eventually. You won't be the first

If Mason Greenwood is without gainful employment explain to me how he feeds that girl you posted there and their incoming child. Or you think it's your outrage that will feed them?

chic2pimp:
To be honest this case had less to do with the wokies/cancel culture and more to do with the fact that there was both video and audio evidence readily available. Preventing violence against Women and Girls leads the news on a weekly basis in the UK so there was no way one of the faces of that movement was going to have a career in the UK once the pictorial evidence came out.

I'm not against that. Getting kicked out of United is punishment enough. What me I'm against is the idea of him being blackballed out of a football career altogether.

That is where the Wokies and cancel culture matter comes in. If the law courts have released him then he should have a right to continue his career wherever that is

afrodoc2:
Blimey from Wankfordshire?

But that’s why they call it cancel culture nah. Only prime communist era dictatorships like Stalinist USSR and Maoist China fit disappear people the way cancel culture does. Only this time instead of a dictatorship of the proletariat you have a dictatorship of the frustrated, unfulfilled, and inconsequential. There is no room for forgiveness in cancel culture.

ROTFLOL that is the best way to describe them.

My permanent grouse with cancel culture shitfvcks is that their canceling is never across board. They can shift the goalposts anytime as they please depending on who is involved. They're like the other woman in the story of Solomon who smothered their own baby to death and so wanted Solomon to divide the living baby to two so there's no baby left.

This explains why when everyone has a misstep they want you broke, busted and disgusted just like them

It's not a single thing they preach that they practice as we see time and time again

WhoDeyHause:
This is just the Crux of the matter. Court has declared him not guilty but social media and woke movement decided to still do their own jungle justice until they succeeded in turning him to a jobless man like Ole, Nobody said greenwood didn't harass his girlfriend but still hanging on to the basis of that act after both court, club, Harriet and her father seemed to have moved on emphasizes the phrase that if man was God there'll be no second chances.
If zouma can be dragged to the point of losing endorsements after the backlash because of mmowu, then it'll be a matter of time before another lesser object like a rat or flower is fitted into the fairness and equality umbrella.

It's like Tory Lanez supporters still arguing that he is innocent. That's largely irrelevant at this point. If the Crown decide to let him go then what sense does it make for Blimey from Wankfordshire to keep moaning on SM about it.

If he's not in jail then he should be allowed to use his skills to earn a living. Ok you chased him out of Manchester which I understand but to suggest he can't play again at even a smaller club to feed his family? I will never support that

odizeey:


This their stupid movement is all hypocrisy.

Her brother was assaulting people but she'll be the one to first post about how CEOs assault staff members.

Hand don touch am. Hand go touch everybody las las.

That story was too funny and a further reminder not to take these people any type of seriously. Even on sensitive matters like these that they claim they fight for they still pick and choose who to protect depending on agenda.

We told them there was no way the sister was unaware of the brother's behavior and so charity begins at home, when they drop their stupid lines like hold your friends accountable, hold your people accountable, they didn't know we were setting traps because anybody with sense God gave geese knows that these matters grey area go surely dey when you know someone involved.

The mugu girl too went to deny her brother for Social Media clout. Na him the brother open her yansh in 4K say see oh see the person wey una dey sorry for. Na me and the mama wey she disclaim na him dey maintain this girl oh

And guess what? We still had idi0ts blaming the brother for exposing her. Asin her hypocrisy should have remained secret. Stupid people everywhere

odizeey:
Their mouth always run for canceling till they their family members get involved directly.

That's how the editor in tech cabal went quiet when her bro was called out. Someone that would have sharperdly put out one article with sprinkles of lies.

Lol. Those people with their name like musical instruments

Koromone and Funfere

You had full adults behaving like clowns and covering her behind cos na Femco member. We told them she knew about everything and was covering up till the brother himself exposed her. And why? Cos the same babe wanted to perform and impress her feminazi mob by distancing herself from the brother.

Till bobo decide say make e kuku dabaru everything

Hypocritr people always holding people to standards that they are not living themselves

donjazzet:
This "innocent till proven guilty" is just a legal term. It's for the courts, never has it been for the masses. Me and you have seen corrupt politicians in this country who went to court and came out victorious. We have seen cases of mob bosses being declared not guilty because witnesses disappeared and no evidence.
Are you saying that YOU as an individual will believe that someone is innocent of any wrongdoing so far as the courts don't find him guilty? Really? You never form your own perspective and judgement on issues with evidence before your eyes?

In this case of greenwood, we have direct evidence that a rape took place and crime was committed. Why won't you apply your own personal perspective to this? What makes you want to defend a blatant criminal?

Ol boy go and use CPS and arrest him. Don't put words in my mouth and Mafejopami

If the courts that have the final say have thrown out the case what is my concern?

If he's free then he has the right to use his skills to pay his Bills and take care of said girl and their child. If that's your own idea of me defending a blatant criminal then call me Johnny Cochrane nigga I Do NOT CARE

donjazzet:
A40, do you believe that there are some people who have committed crimes, gone to court for those crimes but have been released on technicalities, however everyone and even the person in question does know that he committed the crime?

I'm talking of street rappers, drug lords, corrupt politicians, white collar fraudulent business men etcetera.
I ask again, do you believe that the justice system is perfect and convicts every criminal who passes through the court system?

I'm sure the only answer to this is NO. the court is not perfect and sometimes criminals get away with their crimes, to which I would now ask you, if with evidence presented to you, you and a lot of people are certain that someone did commit a crime and you owned a business, would you want that person who committed that terrible crime to work for you or with you?
How would you like working with a violent murderer?

Alaye. If the court of law let's them go what will you have me do? Last I checked we are in a lawful society not a dystopian one.

Didn't Cardi B literally admit to drugging and robbing men in her past. By your logic she should not even be a factor today, she should be in jail and a nobody

There's nothing like a perfect system but you have to decide if you want jungle justice or you want a system that does not have a 100% conviction rate. Can't have it both ways

I don't know why you keep referring to murder when that's not the case here. Of which I'd have you know there are many murderers roaming the street and mingling among us. Violent murderers should get the death penalty IMO but guess what? it's still woke mob people that said killing them is inhumane so guess what? if you let a violent murderer free then he still has to earn a living anyway he can or you have another problem on your hands

nitrogen:
Companies carry out integrity and background checks, some may be okay having him on board since there is no conviction and he is qualified for the job. Top football clubs will want to avoid the publicity that comes with parading him in front of the world every weekend.

Maybe Saudi or Turkey (Middle East in general) will work, but he might be paid a wage that is similar to what local players earn. No leverage at all. Chai, and this guy is so young.

I think it is down to your personal beliefs and discretion. My own is as human beings we are very duplicitous in nature and morality varies from one man to another. Even the people they cancel they are not consistent about it else a lot of people in different fields wouldn't have any sort of careers

I think the negative PR is the biggest issue for United, the eyeballs are just too much.

The wages is the least of his worries now, what is more important is reestablishing his value and staying out of self inflicted trouble moving forward. The idea that a 22 year old should never get to play again just doesn't make any sense to me

donjazzet:
So you all agree that he indeed did something very terrible, then why then are you guys somehow spinning this against women??

Why are you guys defending him?
I can't understand this? You guys see that indeed be was very wrong in his actions but then you guys are angry with the "woke mob" who are demanding accountability for his actions??

You're doing too much bruh. I didn't say Greenwood was blameless and I don't recall defending him on this thread so I don't know what you're on about.

I was speaking on a broader scale about past unrelated cases with the Dr for instance and guys like Partey and Mendy

The woke mob can do whatever they like with their selective demands. That is not my own concern, my stance is if he's not in jail then he should get an opportunity to earn a living the best way he knows how which is on the pitch and I stand ten toes down on that. If he's not found guilty in a court of law he should play wherever he can

ChristineC:
I think the club also failed in critical aspects.
he's been in Man United since he was a kid, surely there should be some department for nurture on day to day living or stuff like that. more or less, the parenting was outsourced to the club.
a young boy earning that much is prone to misbehaviour because what else is there to do but live fast?

Ohh clearly. The boy showed many signs he was going to lose his way and get into trouble. I think it's common in sports when you're an elite talent you get a lot of rope and people are more invested in your physical gifts and not what's up there between your ears.

Every team should have mentors, OGs that these kids respect and listen to to warn them that wise men learn from mistakes of others not theirs. There's too many cautionary tales out there for men to not take heed from. I mean just look at Ravel Morrison. Anything that can jeopardize your freedom and means of livelihood is not worth it and this has to be drilled into these men from a very young age

raumdeuter:
Below is Mendy who was tried and found not guilty yet no rest for him even after 2yrs trial which he was locked up

Court says Mendy did not rape anyone yet these banners are still thereand if they continue, Lorient like Man Utd will part ways with Mendy

So what should Mendy do with his life now? Go learn coding or become a pilot or what

That is the world we live in now. Lorient cannot afford to fold. A dangerous precedent is being set in society. Like I said we have to choose if we want to believe people are innocent till proven guilty or not. You can't pick and choose when to believe it. Else you're no better than the backward societies you claim you're better than in the East

This overcompensation we see with marriage laws, fewer and fewer people are having or creating families. Birth rates are reducing and very soon social welfare crisis will happen when there aren't enough youth to replace the aging population

donjazzet:
Are you saying that because someone advocated for women rights but then fell victim to a particular bad woman, that that somehow undermines his initial good stances??
That a terrible woman doing him bad means he was wrong to have advocated for women's rights and stood up for them like I'm doing now?

His initial stances were bad. In no other field of life are you asked to believe people without some kind of proof. If I accused you of stealing you would request proof, if you were picked up by SARS and accused of fraud you would want to be perceived as innocent.

Why is it when the issue is of this that we are supposed to as neutral observers not give people the benefit of doubt? We cannot pick and choose when to practice jungle justice. You can't lament ALUU 4 and cheer what that Dr used to do till he met his own debacle. I am 100% certain he has now learned his lesson and now knows that just like men women can lie too

donjazzet:
Let me ask you something, if you heard a player murdered a woman because they had a domestic dispute, what would your reaction be like?? I want to know how you would feel about the issue.

Which kin question be this? Where did murder come from? I don't support any violence that cannot be monetized in an Octagon or boxing ring.

I'm asking you if he can't play and earn a living how does his girl and baby survive? If the court has thrown away the case should he not make a living?

olabode89:
This is my problem with the whole scorched earth method utilized in cases like this. Wealth men should just jejely pay for sex from discrete professionals and signed NDAs. If Greenwood jejely drop £2k to 5K for Russian or Polish olosho w for nor dey this mess.

In Greenwood's case I don't think it's just money or carrying olosho. The boy does seem a bit tapped in the head. He has a lot of maturing to do. As a man especially a black man in the West your rope is shorter than most

nitrogen:
I honestly do not support the cancel culture. Unfortunately, there are careers that are just too exposed to the culture. We watch these guys every damn week. Greenwood can work in a bank with less attention. It is what it is!

The unfortunate thing is there are videos and pictures out there, innocence can’t be proven, he is guilty unless and until the case goes to court and he is cleared of all accusations.

The idea of Greenwood not playing football at a high level again is wicked IMO. I have never understood it. If he's not caught cheating or affecting the integrity of the actual sport and is not in jail then he should get to play. Maybe not at United where the PR nightmare is terrible for everyone involved but I still believe he should get another opportunity to play and earn a living.

Is he even qualified to work at a bank? Naah. I think he should get another crack at it. Italy, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi. The idea he should not play again is asinine to me sha

raumdeuter:
Well the people who are after him will they not cancel the bank and urge the public to withdraw their funds from the Bank? Bank is even more exposed to public scrutiny, How long before someone spots Greenwood in a branch of Chase Bank and post it on twitter then we go again same with if he was working at Walmart

Assuming what you even say is true, That they wont bother him if he worked in a Bank but will if he is a football player, So is this beef because of how much he is likely to earn as a player vs if he worked in a Bank

This is the problem I have here, Its either you believe in the justice system or you don't and just go with jungle justice.

You sent someone to the justice system, they could not convict him then you are still not satisfied

Videos and pictures don't mean anything if you cannot go to court and prove the case otherwise we wont need to go to court and once we see video, audio or pictures we just go to town

Didn't they see video for Neymar's case? Didn't they see for Mendy's case. Did Johnny Depp not get convicted in court of public opinion too before we saw the exact truth

The video and audio stuff that circulated really fvcked him up. The truth in this life is it will never be about guilt or innocence it's about perception.

Guys like Partey, even Mendy to an extent there's no real damning evidence circulating that proves their guilt whether in law court or public court. I'm 100% certain if the video and audio didn't exist he would still be a United player by now.

It's why you just have to try all possible best to avoid these people's problems. Keep your temper in check and avoid any woman that does not dance to your tune.

Greenwood best bet now is to go to Turkey, Saudi, Qatar. Try to rebuild. I know a lot of these woke people some are incapable of rational thought but the man being unemployed and unable to take care of the woman in question and their kid on the way does not help anybody

See what happened to Michael Irvin. Cowboys legend. He was talking to a supposed fan in plain sight of a hotel lobby, normal conversation where he barely brushed her arm he wound up getting accused of assault and harrassment and was yanked off the Superbowl coverage and all NFL media.

That is where we are today. Interacting with woman even on surface level can land you in all types of problems

raumdeuter:
You remember one Doctor on twitter in UK accused of rappe. I think Dr Olufunmilayo. I will like to hear from him nowadays any of his opinion on whether women can lie about rape

This is why I dey always sorry for pandering men. These women you dey pander for are ruthless and will not show you any mercy when push comes to shove. The day you're in a case where you cannot immediately prove your innocence you will learn some lessons

See that yeye Pastor that went to go and marry Meagan Good well known Industry animashaun. One elderly lady at his interview was lecturing him on how his girl was dressed and he felt the need to pander some more. Where did it land him? She still left him for heathen men at last

Just like our resident Dr after all his pandering and not waiting to hear the other side. When he found himself in similar problem I'm sure he now knows why they say innocent till proven guilty

donjazzet:
I don't understand your post especially the last part.

Yeah, there might be some truth when you say "humans are only after what benefits them" but you can see why liberals fight to change this narrative.
People go out of their way to try and make the world a better place.
Look at vegetarians for example, because they genuinely believe that all life matters on earth, they go out of their way to never eat any living thing again or any byproduct of any living thing.

They feed on only plants and they commit themselves to regenerating those plants.
That right there is the extreme ultimate sacrifice some are willing to go through to leave the world and their environment a much better place.
So I guess this dispels your notion that humans will only do what benefits them, well some people sacrifice for the greater good. Soldiers go into battle ready to sacrifice their lives for the good of their countries. So I guess that counts too.

Lol. Nothing sacrificial about being a vegetarian. The Almighty made us omnivores for a reason

Even for animal kingdom carnivores have their use. And that plant you're eating is depriving a herbivore of food.

By eating dairy products and poultry we are applying population control