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diadem10:
Prove of Lemar creativity was the reason Atletico (who are actually penny pincher) signed him for 70 mill.

If you had watched Monaco, you would realise Lemar was the source of their creativity whereas Mbappe and Falcao were just goal scorers. There's a reason he was called to the France national team when he was just a young player who wasn't even known outside the ligue 1.

Atletico coach is also happy with Lemar. So keep your stat to your chest.

Lmaooo. A decision Atletico are probably regretting now. I doubt they would pay that much for a 3 goals 2 assists poor man's Antonio Valencia

Mbappe had 8 assists in their title winning season. Stop misinforming the public with this false narrative that Mbappe was just a scorer. Show some scruples and decorum

Simeone has no choice. Are you shittin me? How do you bench a player you bought for €70m in his first season without looking like a complete asshat

The same Simeone that paid €52m for a washed Diego Costa? Please don't make it sound like Atletico are some perfect transfer bargain hunters. They are prone to the odd goof! Or you have forgotten Jackson Martinez?

diadem10:
Such stats isn't pathetic for a touchline winger in a defensive team which is built around a non creative SS. That's the cold fact.

I could count how many times Mbappe fell flat on the floor under no pressure at all in yesterday match. Many times his first touch turned the ball over under no pressure. Is that your worldie?

I didn't even intend to go this route of comparing Lemar with Mbappe except for their similar roles at the world cup until you started spewing nonsense and I came to this conclusion which is, it's an insult to Lemar to even compare him to Mbappe cos Lemar doesn't have such average touch to begin with. You were the one who brought out Mbappe's can of worms, not me. Now you can feed on it.

You're not even ashamed that your MCM has not evolved his game beyond playing a borderline obsolete role. Even Antonio Valencia at a rubbish team like Wigan was putting up better stats.

The non creative SS is dropping 10 assists and dropping 2 key passes per game. While the creative Touchline winger is averaging less than 2 dribbles per game and providing 2 assists in 32 hours of football. Yeye dey really smell

It's an insult to compare Mbappe to a Lemar with 1 assist every 15 hours of football. If Lemar's exceptional touch cannot lead to goals or assists for his team then they might as well flog him to China.

Lol see who is talking about can of worms? Your MCM has not scored or assisted since last year. We are already in March. Afrodoc2 should prescribe albendazole for you before your intestines shut down

diadem10:
Griezman isn't creative. That's the gospel truth. Making a simple pass which luckily led to a goal isn't an act of creativity. Let that sink in.

Lmaooooo John Stockton couldn't assist you. Griezmann is not creative but dropping double figure assists the last 3 seasons. Spare me your nonsense

Show me proof of Lemar's creativity and stop inundating the thread with your blasphemy

Roland17:
I was not entirely shocked when I read that part because some of his facial features testify to that. Nigerians irrespective of nationality have a very strong spirit of resilience and he has his parents to thank for pursuing a better life for him and his siblings.

Who knows what would have become of him if his parents remained in Lagos or if he was the one born in Lagos and had to stay back a couple of years before moving to Greece.

Ohh him get Igbo mark for face?

He should be eternally grateful to his parents sha. I really believe the environment a child is born can make or break them depending on the gifts the Creator has bestowed upon them. Olajuwon was some dongo playing goaliemepon in Lagos Island till he relocated.

It's why I feel bad seeing guys here that were talking about starting basketball at 19 or even older.

diadem10:
He's a SS closer to the goal. He's bound to make some passes to his lead no 9. That's the gospel truth. Even C.Ronaldo had his moment with his simple passes although he's a fantastic crosser also. Abeg, watch football with your eyes.

Story for the gods. The important thing is correcting that nonsensical narrative that Griezmann provides no creativity. You're showing a clear lack of understanding of what that statement even means

diadem10:
We all saw the talent who couldn't even control ordinary ball yesterday. Never seen such an acclaimed talent who has such a poor bottom level. Wake me up when Lemar has such level of absolute shite.

While you're getting on that, go learn about the difference between a touchline winger and a forward. Can't waste my precious time having a discourse with someone who has a poor knowledge on football roles.

You're not even ashamed. These are the stats of someone you're claiming has talent. Mbappe's bottom level was still good enough to produce half of Lemar's assist numbers for the entire season

Touchline winger my a$$. Even if he was playing from the dressing room there is no excuse for producing such pathetic stats. You have already wasted your time defending an unproductive winger since last year. You might as well waste it some more! Chai you're not even ashamed! Do you know that since November that we began this argument Lemar has not scored or assisted

diadem10:
I won't even dabble with you on your nonsense about Griezman creativity. No one in his right sense would even argue that.

You're not armed with anything to disprove me anyway so you probably made a good choice

Lmaooooo. A player averaging 10 assists per season in all comps is not capable of being creative. Gospel according to diadem 10. Let me allow the rest of the thread laugh at your megedefegede!

steady986:
Harden didn't miss that many games like Lebron, plus the Rockets team is better than the Lakers, let's not even argue

The Rockets started badly. They missed Capela and CP3, 2 of their best 3 players for a combined 38 games. The bottom line is they started with a deficit and then lost two of their best 3 players at the same friggin time and still battled back. Whether Rockets are better is even irrelevant, the Lakers shouldn't be 10th seed 5 games behind .500

The Lakers lost LeNomad but he came back with 31 games to go! That's more than 30% of the season left and yet they are already out of playoffs contention with 17 games left!! This is inexcusable. I don't care if it's the Dodan Warriors

steady986:
Who says they're out of contention?

They are. There is even talk of rationing LeNomad's minutes

diadem10:
If football was about stat, Modric wouldn't be a balloon dor. Yeye dey smell.

CM's aren't really judged by stats. Nice try

Even at that Modric's mama knows her son wasn't Balon D'or worthy. Ronaldo got the leper treatment due to his r@pe kwanta.

diadem10:
No one is saying Lemar is world-class. In fact, none was even hyping him but to emphasize how unworthy Mbappe hype is because Lemar is the better technician.

Lemar is a fraud. He owes his career to the likes of Mbappe who helped him to his best season since he became a professional.

These are Lemar's stats without Mbappe

3 goals 8 assists
2 goals 1 assists

5 goals and 9 assists in two seasons of football. Those are the type of numbers Lemar puts up without Mbappe as a teammate. A fraud

diadem10:
If we were to go by how this discourse started. I was discussing on the similarity of Mbappe's role at the world cup and that of Lemar's role at Monaco although Lemar wasn't given the freedom to drift inside like Mbappe did at the world cup but he was the go to guy for every long ball played to the wing by Fabinho, same way Mbappe was the go to guy for every long ball played by Pogba to the wing. That was my discourse before you badged in to say I shouldn't compare Lemar to Mbappe as if Mbappe was a sensational talent like the teenage Messi, Ronaldo, Mardona et al. Mbappe is just an ordinary talent. Let that sink into your skull.

If Mbappe is an ordinary talent then Lemar is no talent.

And its barged in not badged in

diadem10:
Only someone who watches football through the lens of stat spew rubbish as yourself. Even the world cup stat would delude us with the idea of Griezman being a fantastic playmaker which he wasn't except for the few times he gave simple passes that led to goals. Wouldn't be surprised to see that it was Lemar who created most of the tough passes that led to Griezman putting in a simple pass for a goal.

Stat doesn't tell the whole story. Only eediots depend on stat solely.

Lmaooooo. Negro please! Just shush it

The least you can do is apologize for this megedefegede highlighted below after being enlightened

diadem10:
Lemar plays for a team that is centred around Griezman, a second striker who is all about scoring goals without offering any creativity.

I could go on and on.

Griezmann might not be Messi but to suggest he is not creative is a crime against football punditry.
You seem to not know when to draw the line with your laughably hipster Alté takes

"Simple passes that led to goals" I don't think you even read what you typed. I'm sure you are one of those that are moved by Shakushaku dancing when a simple pass can do the job.

Don't be surprised. Show us proof that Lemar is doing the dirty work for Griezmann. You gotta have something to back it up. I'm not here for your usual story. Show n prove

SIRcumalot:
Na you be fiction writer for here.
You no go hear any excuse because you don't want to.
Any other team lose their best player and the team falls into a slump.
You no need Sherlock to tell you why the team they fail.

Stop rolling back the transaction beyond the original error point. They lost their best player and went 6-11 but he came back with 31 games to play and a 2 game deficit! They are 3-10 since he came back. If they won even half of their games they would still be in contention

Stop these excuses! They are invalid and frankly nauseating. If he's the best like y'all claim, the Lakers should not already be out of playoff contention with 17 games left.

steady986:
You have to put into consideration the Ingram and Kuzma injuries.

Which team in the league has not dealt with injuries? James Harden kept the Rockets in playoff with a bunch of G-LEAGUE level players missing CP3, Capela and Gordon. I don't want to hear all these excuses

Hardetayour:
Watched KDs post game interview and he was answering one kind. One part of my wants him to stay, the other part says he should Go!!!!

These guys are just itching for the playoffs to start honestly. Won't read much meaning into it.

My only real worry for the Warriors is that defense, Draymond Green's defense has fallen off a cliff and teams are just torching Boogie as well. I knew Boogie wasn't elite defensively but he's pretty much a target now in the PnR game. So much so that Steve Kerr has to strongly consider benching him in critical stretches which is sad because that is kinda why they got him. Let's see how it unfolds

Roland17:
I encourage everyone to read this great piece about Giannis. I am happy he is recognizing and celebrating his original roots.

https://theundefeated.com/features/bucks-giannis-antetokounmpo-greek-freak-wants-to-go-back-to-his-nigerian-roots/

Looks like his mom is Igbo. Interesting

diadem10:
Lemar plays for a defensive Atletico team.

Lemar plays as a touchline winger whose job is to take on oposition defenders and whip in threatening crosses into the box, doesn't necessarily mean he would be awarded an assist each time his cross leads to a goal.

Even if he plays for Bolton that does not explain such a paltry return.

He is not leading the league in dribbles or chances created so how effective is he doing his job? These excuses are tiresome

diadem10:
Lemar plays for a team that is centred around Griezman, a second striker who is all about scoring goals without offering any creativity.

Griezmann 12 goals 7 assists 2.3 Key passes per game

Thomas Lemar 2 goals 1 assists. 1.1 Key passes per game

Griezmann does not offer any creativity - Diadem Chapter 1 v 10

diadem10:
Lemar has been given lot of playing time which shows the coach isn't dumb to have taken only stat serious rather than what he sees on the pitch.

Lool. Yeah you would just sit a player you broke your club's transfer record for

[quote author=diadem10 post=76418037]Costa has been having it much more worse than Lemar in that same defensive set up.

I could go on and on.

Costa is washed bruh. Even Morata that was falling under anointing at Chelsea is now looking like a quality striker at this same defensive Atletico you keep talking about. Try another excuse

diadem10:
Who are you talking about? Lemar or Neymar? Neymar has been playing mostly as a third midfielder for PSG.
Even while he was on the wing, he was used as a wide midfielder who drops inside to link up play with the forwards.

As for Lemar, he has been deployed mostly as a touchline winger so far for a defensive style Atletico team.

Mbappe on the other hand has been playing as a forward, whether as an inverted forward, SS or a striker.

I hyped Lemar because he has a better technique than Mbappe. He's also similar to Mbappe in style of play but was just unlucky to have been the one deployed as a touchline winger while Mbappe got to play as a second striker for Monaco. The last time he was deployed in the same role for France, he scored 2 good goals and was the best player on the pitch. Lemar was probably used as a winger because the coach realised that his technical skills was superior to that of Mbappe. I think in life, some people's talent tends to be their downfall. If he had been the one deployed as a second striker while Monaco had found a talented winger in his place on the wing, Lemar would be the one heralded today. He showed that for France when he was given his first complete debut as a SS for France until Mbappe rise.

I no get time for all these excuses and tales by moonlight. Just @ me when Thomas Lemar scores or provides another assist. Even if it's in pre-season.

Can't be wasting my time debating about a winger who is averaging 1 assist every 15 hours of football. When Casemiro has doubled your goal tally as a winger then the wing position is probably not your calling. Simeone needs to move that unproductive ninja to Fullback.

nihilistjnr:
Rashford scored or assisted 2 goals today.

2.2 God no vex


but Rashford's 2 included the winning goal. Scambappe left with nothing but the A40 trophy

Don't worry about Mbappe. He has more CL goals and World Cup goals than Rashford. Nothing wey you fit use compare their two aside their skin color

diadem10:
Mbappe the fraud. I stopped getting the hype the day I saw his highlight performance for Monaco against one shite team in a friendly match like that. He was the worst on the pitch, couldn't even control a ball in that match. Since then I realize he can only play in a team of talented players with whom he can feed off cos the likes of Lemar, Falcao, Silva were all out in that particular match due to one reason or the other but that shouldn't stop him from not being able to control a common ball. He was completely horrible. The fraud.

If Mbappe is a fraud then what do we call this chap below? The worst signing in La Liga history

diadem10:
A40, this was the discourse we had on Mbappe here:

https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-2018/5666#69477719

I still maintained my position on the fact that he can't be the focal point of a possession based football team except he has a player such as Neymar who takes off pressure off him while he has all the space for himself. Mbappe's strength is only suited for counter attacking football style. A fraud.

You can't be slandering a player that contributed two goals out of the 3 times they scored in this knockout tie while the player you are hyping has not scored 3 goals all season.

nihilistjnr:
Let him lead PSG to win Rashford na

Mbappe scored or assisted two of the 3 goals they scored. I'm sure his other teammates collected salary unlike Rashford who was carried by Lukaku

nihilistjnr:
Giroud get WC e no mean shishi

one on one na the purest form of war

Rashford >>>>Scambappe

Giroud 0 goals Mbappe 4 goals.

Mbappe that was still undergoing puberty when he led Monaco to CL semis? Let's be guided please

nihilistjnr:
A40 wetin you dey talk?

Rashford >>>>>>Scambappe

Bahahahahaha. When Rashford wins a World Cup holla at me bros

raumdeuter:
What was the incentive to make hit and chop grass amulet or pant to money jazz?

I'm taking a rather wild guess here but I think evil powers would rather people ate grass than make $125m overnight

raumdeuter:
Shebi you believe, They should have no problem giving you lotto numbers. Imagine how our lives go set $125M for us to share

Elijah was challenged and he brought down fire on a heap of dead animals
Moses was challenged and he performed those miracles even brought down manna from heaven

Lool ise l'oogun ise.

That aside sef, this one that you're going on and on about lotto numbers, what is the incentive for any Babalawo to give you lotto numbers? What do you bring to the table? I have told you before that even juju get him own protocol wey gats dey observed

As per the Elijah case well that was in the Old Testament. And besides that you can't compare their walk with God to what is obtainable today. Elijah didn't die FFS. Dude was carried via chariots of fire. You can't really compare their spiritual levels to what is obtainable now

nihilistjnr:
Jesus turned water to champagne make boys flex....but to give us lotto ticket na issue.

Jesus use bread and fish take step down thousands of boys, but to get odds, wahala

Jesus dey stroll ontop sea of Galilee just because...but to predict tonight's score, no way.

Adeboye said a couple of days ago sat him and God dey gist and sip Lipton together


What are you saying sef? E dey willy nilly pass so?

Lol I apologize for wrong verbiage. What I should have said is he didn't do it out of a dare or a need to prove a point. E.g: When the devil tempted him after 40 days of fasting to turn stone to bread

So this your idea of challenging cannot work. Especially since you don't even believe for starters

Greatihex:
exactly.

This is what james wrote about faith and work.

James 2:14-26 English Standard Version (ESV)
Faith Without Works Is Dead
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?
If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good
is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith
apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; and the Scripture was fulfilled that says,
“Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.

Exactly. God and Jesus don't use their powers Willy nilly. I don't know how they expect the ones with lesser powers to be doing so

SIRcumalot:
houston had the luxuries of game in front of them and the possible mvp of this season.
lebron no injure this lakers are making the playoffs the rest na story.

Lol this guy you be story man. Jimi Solanke dey learn work where you dey. Houston had luxuries of games in front of them but the Lakers with so-called best player in the league and 31 games ahead did not have games in front of them?

I don't want to hear about any injuries, they were 2 game behind the Clippers! With 31 games left! Less than 2 weeks later these Clippers traded their #1 scorer. The Spurs also went 1-7 opening the window to be caught. Yet we have them 5.5 games behind the 8th seed rn!

That we have already written the Lakers off with a full 18 games to go is a crying disgrace

Alo alo oo alo alo alo alo Story story oo story story story


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eHQTsI_AuU

raumdeuter:
In all of these you havent told us what juju can do and the evidence of the works of juju that goes beyond folktales and hearsay

I resemble Dibia to you? The person wey know pass me don tell me for Bible say juju dey. I have no use for juju or its works but I know not to question it's existence

gensteejay:
Science is. As of now.

If science can't offer a satisfactory explanation for any so-called supernatural or mysterious phenomena, we give it time and go with the most logical and reasonable explanation currently available.

With time, most things we see as supernatural or extraordinary now will become normal occurrences. Thunder, lightning, malaria, schizophrenia, rainfall, drought, and so many others were once regarded as supernatural or spiritual phenomena by people in the past, as handiwork of one god or the other, inflicting punishment on people for perceived wrongs they committed.

Today, we know better.

Time will make all these things clear.

I don't entirely agree, I will point out that there are biblical principles that overlap with science and there are certain things we see in the Bible that science endorses and vice versa

Science will however never have all the answers and it is by design. There would be problems and phenomena science would never be able to solve or explain because it is out of its jurisdiction

The problem I think people have is usually their failure to realize that even the Spiritual does not pervade the Physical. So if you don't do what you're supposed to do in the physical then there is no way you can expect any spiritual input. Both worlds have their boundaries and limitations and rarely ever overlap the other

A student that is going for night vigil when his mates are reading will not pass exams, an athlete that is praying when his mates are training will not win any competition. A farmer that isn't using the right soil nutrients or nurturing his farmland the right way won't receive bountiful harvest.

raumdeuter:
So under what terms do juju and jazz work?

Is their term that it must not be verifiable? And only works from remote villages where people dont have caneras to record?

By answer the question on football, you mean I said football being a result based and verifiable by all? Is that the limitation of juju? Juju doesnt work where results are verifiable

That is not for me and you to decide or estimate.

Do you believe the universe was created in 7 days and not 3 billion years like scientists opine?

My question is who does the verifying? Is it you? Because the one that created all has said it exists. And we should not be ignorant of it

Remember that even Jesus was selective when it came to showing himself or performing miracles so this should tell you that juju definitely has limitations as it is under control of a higher order

SIRcumalot:
You need a huge difference between your win and loss to cushion against the inevitable loss of form,bad road trip or whatever.
The Lakers in his absence blew that cushion.
The present team that he came back to isn't the same team mentally, that was fighting for 4th place.
The worst that would've happened is that they don't maintain the 4th place and slip to 6th or 7th. But they don't make the playoff! No way.

Cushion ko mattress ni. What was Houston's cushion when they jumped from 14th to 5th in the standings? Even without Chris Paul

The Lakers in his absence were 6-11. Since his return they are 3-9. Even if we omit their record sans LeBron as it stands they are still just a .500 team and would not make the playoffs!!

Do you realize if they went even 6-6 since he got back they would be only 2 games behind the 8th seed. We are tired of these excuses!!!