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Roland17:
That is exactly why he gets paid around 10 million a year by ESPN. He brings the drama and honestly, it got me cracking.

For those who have not seen the video, here is the link.

DAMMIT!!!!! Typical KNICKS!!!!! pic.twitter.com/rn0hDF0JdE

— Stephen A Smith (@stephenasmith) May 15, 2019

Stephen A is a walking meme. The guy is an entertainer walahi

OyinbowithaTan:
Her alleged rapist, Juan Leon-Gomez, has been indicted for felony rape and obstruction of official business by the Stark County Court and will appear in court later this May. Phucking illegals raping illegal children. Trump was right.

Citizens don't rape? Do you know if he is illegal? Does that make r@pe ok? I'm trying to understand your angle here

Abbeybailey:
Good points. They don't care about the kids after they are born. Only god knows how many abortions their girlfriends have performed ?. I don't care on abortion either side but I refuse to let anyone decide what to do with my body and that's the way majority of Americans think about it.

The faux concern for fetuses is what irritates me the most.

Their faux concern for the fetus usually overrides the health of the carrier of that fetus and just like you I don't believe anybody has a right to dictate what you do within your body especially as regards an often life-threatening endeavor like childbirth

I believe the incoming Mother's health and choice should be paramount before anything else and that men shouldn't even be allowed to pass these laws as they literally do not have the biological range.

https://www.scarymommy.com/11-year-old-rape-victim-abortion/

These pro-lifers are really something else. An 11 year old has to carry a baby borne out of r@pe because of their nonsense self-righteous laws that doesn't put into account the difficulty children of that age and even a full-blown adult usually encounters during childbirth. It's always the folks with no wombs or that don't have to deal with these problems that have the most to say. I just wonder why they never keep this same energy with gun control and kids that are dying at these border posts. Smh

KarnThornheart:
Skip Bayless just said Ben Simmons is a better player than lebron

Lool why are you guys so easily triggered?? You know he's baiting and you guys keep falling.

I'm happy this Ben Simmons hype monster people kept building is coming full circle. We told a lot of y'all he wasn't that good and is borderline useless when a half court is set. Before this series someone told me his ceiling is LeBron. Lmaoo

I wouldn't write him off just yet anyway but I'm starting to wonder if he and Embiid can play on the same team. Cos Embiid needs to cut out that jumpshootin nonsense and go and bang in the post but that is a lot more difficult with Simmons clogging the lane.

But for Simmons health advantage over Embiid I'd strongly suggest moving him. It would be beneficial for Embiid and the Sixers and even for Ben Simmons believe it or not as he would literally be forced to improve his all-round game (ie shooting)

Would the Lakers really trade LeNomad for Ben Simmons's no jumpshootin a$s

I wonder what stats zombies like Nick Wright will have to say about this. Daryl Morey too

Roland17:
Did he really overplay his hands or was he trying to get his due? He is a championship winning coach albeit with Lebron and by offering 3 years the Lakers were tying his contract to Bron’s which he deemed disrespectful and rightfully so. Worse still, they were going to choose his coaching staff, now that is going too far and setting him up for failure already.
After failing to agree with Lue, the Lakers were boxed into a corner because they could not offer another coach a longer termed contract because it would raise a lot of dust with the fans and Bron, so they offered Vogel the same 3 years.
Make no mistake about it, people have become wary of the Lakers and how they are conducting business. I don’t know how much improvement Vogel will bring to the Lakers, maybe they should have been courageous enough to just hire Jason Kidd if you consider the work he did with a young Giannis and Middleton.
I also don’t know how secure Vogel will feel with having Kidd on the bench, knowing fully well that Kidd could usurp his position.

5 years is too much for Ty Lue. Don't forget he also had health issues if we even look past his suspect coaching. Obviously selecting his assistants was where the Lakers were taking the piss, however Ty Lue has benefited from such arrangement before so maybe he shouldn't be one to groan. You could argue his relationship with LeNomad is the only reason he's even in the picture for starters

Vogel and Kidd might not be a bad collaboration. Vogel has been to multiple conference finals and Kidd won a playoff round with Brooklyn. Lakers fans should be optimistic! That Bucks roster had a lot of deadweight that needed offloading. Greg Monroe, Thon Maker, Tony Snell etc so I won't blame it entirely on Kidd.

popizaino:
Lol
Meanwhile this is what I saw somewhere

Pep Guardiola has spent £510m on new players since 2016. How many trophies? 4 ���� City can still win 2 more this season.

Jürgen Klopp has spent £475m on new players since 2015. How many trophies? 0❌

You make it look like Klopp hasn’t spent a penny. Start appreciating Pep.
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Net Spend Net Spend

What's up with Kristaps??

These playoffs have also shown that the midrange game is alive and well

KarnThornheart:
Yeah like frank vogel is any better.

He took the Pacers to two Conference Finals losing to the Heatles. Don't know what went wrong in Orlando but I'm not giving Ty Lue 5 years bruh

birdman:
I agree. I have no idea why hes so high on the list. His performance without Lebron is abysmal.

Lool it's fashionable to shyte on Jeanie Buss and the Lakers organization atm but you have to be a special type of dumb to give Tyronn Lue a 5 year deal. The outrage like he was some elite coach I found a bit bizarre

McCollum Time. This nigga carried Portland on his back

Jamal Murray using late buckets to try to hide his brickfest! The difference between the likes of Murray and Harden and the likes of the GOAT, KD, LeNomad, Kobe is the fact that they rarely pick the most inopportune time to play their worst game of the series. Dame was pretty lucky to have CJ today but man through 3 quarters he was 3/15 FFS!!

Nice fightback from Portland. Beat OKC, Beat Denver. Happy for the franchise! They could use some good fortune

KarnThornheart:
Not even in the mood for this sh-t anymore. I am clinically depressed.

Frank Vogel, Frank Spencer, Frank Lampard, Frank Underwood. Lakers to the playoffs

KarnThornheart:
Its not the be all and all but its certainly a factor. During this same period Shaq also went to the finals as the best player 4 times and once as the second best player. Shaq also just like kobe won one MVP and should have won it ahead of steve nash in 2005 and iverson in 2001 maybe even ahead of duncan in 2002. Also had multiple finishes in the top 5 within this period. For the first half of the decade, shaq clearly had the edge. I could also make an argument for duncan within this period too.

How was Shaq the best player 4 times? From 2002/2003 season Kobe overtook Shaq as the best player in Lakers uniform

I'm not in the shoulda coulda woulda business else Kobe should also have been MVP in 2006 and the GOAT should have won more than 5 MVPs. And did you say 2001? The year AI won scoring champ and led the league in steals and dragged Philly to 56-26 with the second best player averaging 12ppg

Meanwhile Shaq was a 28.7ppg and Kobe 28.5.

Khanben:
What he means by Kobe never having an era IMO, is simply that there was no stretch of time that Kobe alone was absolutely the best player in the league.

This is debatable at best and at worst speaks more about the Competition.
Based on their body of work between that timeframe I posted can you show me any player who was better?

And I would ask again, are we in the Ronaldo or Messi era?

KarnThornheart:
The truth is the future is filled with too many unknowns if CP3 leaves. At least him staying allows them to compete for a year or 2. It all comes down to Chris pauls ability to keep playing at a high level. I think his game ages well, hes never relied on athleticism. Hes a good shooter and a good passer and guys like him tend to keep playing at a very high level for a long time. They should be more worried about potential career ending injuries.

That is the problem. They are or were playing safe. If CP3 leaves they would have had cap room to replace him. With this coming free agent window they could have been in play for an AD or a Kemba or guys that could provide dynamic offense to take the load of Harden and bail him out when he has his inefficient nights.

CP3 and Capela spent significant time on the treatment table in the regular season and then could not deliver come playoffs. Capela a complete non factor.

You have known Chris Paul how many seasons now. Remind me how many post-seasons he's suffered season ending injuries then tell me what were the odds it would suddenly get better at 34.

CP3 relied on his quickness in the past. However if you watched the Rockets closely you would notice CP3 has already lost a step, he can barely blow by his man anymore

Now maybe he ages like Duncan but how confident do you feel about CP3 moving forward with younger cats like Dame Lillard, Jamal Murray and Steph of course battling it out in the same conference

Khanben:
Like your analysis but it's your opinion that Kobe was slightly better, there are others who believe that Duncan or Shaq were better.

That's their opinion to be honest and they are entitled to it. However to me, I rate Kobe ahead of both and if you look at their entire body of work for that timeframe (2000/2001 to 2010/2011) it's not hard to see why

Khanben:
My stance is I've heard of the 2000's been called the Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/ AI era and I completely agree with that cause these guys defined those years.

From 2000/2001 season to 2010/2011 Kobe never failed to make All-NBA team and only finished outside the All-NBA second team once! This is who Nick Wright said didn't have an era? Naa that man is mad

Khanben:
Same argument can be made for Tim Duncan and he had two MVP's to show for it. Tim Duncan finished in the top 10 for twelve straight seasons so how can his era be termed the Kobe era when he had more MVP's and finals MVP's than Kobe

But Kobe waxed the Spurs almost everytime they faced. Their playoffs H2H was 4-2 with Kobe easily being the best player in Lakers uniform for probably all 4 of their wins.

Btw if you say it was Duncan's era, that is also accurate. Between 2000-2010 they were the two best players in the league within that timeframe, though I give slight edge to Kobe. Somebody used a perfect example anyway, Messi and Ronaldo

Khanben:
Big time chokers.
Another thing that Nick got right IMO, I recall him saying that if the rockets don't beat the warriors out and win a championship in the first two years of CP3's contract, then said contract becomes the 2nd worst contract in the NBA behind John Wall's contract.

You can see why I don't take this guy serious

etidy:
Anyone who calls Nick Wright a basketball analyst is a joker. The guy makes my ears bleed everytime I listen to him, at least with Chuck you know he's either trolling or being plain dumb but Nick Wright actually believes the nonsense he's saying.

So happy for the warriors showing up tonight. I don't mind any other team winning the playoffs this year but definitely not the rockets. I can't stand them and their shitty brand of basketball.

He is the worst analyst on TV bar none.

KarnThornheart:
I agree, its subjective. LBJ, Harden, Curry, Durant, Kawhi. Only players consistent/well established enough to be listed in this list in my books. Would have added westbrook too a while ago but.... yikes. Mind you brodie has done what jokic did this year and still doesnt make the cut. i guess your career just isnt as strict as mine. People throw the word superstar around too lightly.

The point is that was not even a Wait and see how he performs Tweet. That was a derisive and dismissive one which suggests that he didn't believe the Nuggets were a good team nor Jokic an elite player.

KarnThornheart:
You cant be a numbers guy and an experienced athlete at the same time, given how difficult that is its almost a paradox.

Analytics, Numbers, its always been there. Just that no one ever paid attention to it until recently.

Daryl Morey built the only team capable of rattling the warriors in the past couple of years and probably wouldve won it all if not for them.

Street cred has nothing to do with it. If i cite a research to a doctor and he dismisses it because he doesnt understand it or has never heard of it of course i would argue with him.

Morey has been the Rockets GM for eons. Credit for taking on the Warriors in this incarnation but he has been GM of that team for quite sometime and they didn't do much till they got Harden.

We shall see if he's able to build a roster that can compete when CP3 invariably starts aging and he cannot add any quality support cast to help Harden.

Of course credibility has a lot to do with analysis. How can he sit across to one of Kobe's teammates or Tim Duncan and the San Antonio Spurs and say that Kobe never had an era. Won't they slap him silly?

KarnThornheart:
The rockets have a small window and its either pay chris paul or he bounces. Who do they replace him with then? They had to go all in especially since that deal was probably agreed before he signed.

Part of being a great GM is anticipating just not the present but the future. What were the odds that CP3 a year older would be better than he was last year? Would you bet on CP3 playing better in his age 34, 35 seasons when he is already showing glaring signs of decline?

Could it be that the sheer amount of workload and usage rate of Harden pretty much means he is doomed to fail come playoff time?

Khanben:
The Chris Paul deal is an anchor that will sink the rockets, the only solution is (and I don't know if this is even allowed) for the contract to be restructured where they take some money from him and pay a player of the ilk of Tobias Harris or Gallinari guys who can play in a system and also create their own shot especially in the midrange.
If something is not done their window just got shut down for good. Harden on the other hand has to decide whether his priority is money via a supermax contract or championships.

Lool we told them the deal was a bad one at the time. Unfortunately this isn't the NFL so nothing like restructuring.

Now I can understand not wanting to lose Chris Paul after potentially being a hamstring away from beating Golden State and playing for the title but why would you double down on a player that has consistently showed the ability to get injured at the most inopportune time. They should have gone for a shorter deal or let CP3 walk and get good two way wings that could carry the offensive burden from Harden and enable them match up better with Golden State

Harden and Paul are locked and joined at the hip for the next 3 seasons. Gordon would definitely test himself in the market and Capela who they paid the big bucks was unplayable in this series. By the time the likes of the Kings, Nuggets and Clippers come of age there might be real problems for Houston

KarnThornheart:
No, none of the guys i mentioned won MVP throughout their era but it was clear who the top dawg was. No one accomplished more than them individually during this era, Wilt had 4, Kareem had 6, Magic had 3, MJ had 5, and lebron has 4. This players also consistently proved how far above everyone else they were during this time especially in the off season. During "his era" duncan had 2 and nash had 2, more than him which is less than you can say about these other lads. You could argue Kobe should have had one more but whose fault is that? No one asked him to go ra.pe someone.

That is my point. The idea that you need a regular season MVP award to validate how good or dominant a player was in a certain era is rather erroneous to me. There has to be a healthy combination of Regular and post season excellence for you to tell me a player was consistently dominant

Kobe between 1999/2000 to 2010 only had 3 seasons where he didn't finish in the top 10 in MVP voting. In fact on 6 occasions he finished top 5. When you also consider he was also the best or second best player to teams that went to 7 Finals between that timeframe and the best playoff performer overall then suggesting Kobe didn't have an era is borderline irresponsible

Griffon:
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birdman:
No such thing. Either you are a good GM or not. You cant judge the GM based on decisions made by a coach. Morey has been good. He knows how to make deals and get the right pieces. But his handicap is over reliance on analytics. No matter what your formula says, Melo was not a fit on this team. Ariza should still be here. And we needed some toughness down low, but toughness is not in the analytics formula

Lol you're making my argument for me. I'm not judging purely by decisions made by the coach. I'm just saying he is not as good as cracked out to be. Just look at the contract he gave CP3. You don't give a 33 year old a 4 year/$160m deal no matter what. I'm surprised his analytics didn't tell him that

The problem right now is the upside for the Rockets is almost nil! Should KD leave the Warriors sef it could be argued that the Rockets are somehow not best positioned to take advantage because they are capped out

Ohh and btw I won't blame him for taking a flier on Melo. It was a pretty low risk maneuver anyway

KarnThornheart:
You dont become a superstar off of one season. This man literally just made his first all star game I'm not ready to put him in that category yet. If most dont consider AD a superstar then Jokic certainly isnt a superstar.

Jokic should have been an all-star last season as well. The All-star game has long been a glorified popularity contest anyway. Kyle Lowry has been a 5 time All-star for crying out loud and his numbers as an all-star this year weren't as good as Jokic last year.

AD is definitely a superstar, I don't know what niggas are smoking.

Anyway the term superstar is just semantics. What makes a superstar to you might not make it with somebody else, but as far as pure on court production this guy led a #2 seed in Points, Rebounds and Assists and is doing it again in the post season. That's superstar production to me

KarnThornheart:
Without numbers all we have is opinions and narratives and all of that is subjective. Nick also tends to hold back on going at his guests i guess just to be polite sometimes but i've seen him hold his own. Hes not my favorite analyst not even close, but the man gets a bad rap for no reason other than he loves lebron. All numbers guys love lebron, daryl morey loves lebron, thinks hes the goat by a mile, very few people know numbers better than daryl morey so i dont think these numbers wright uses have no context.

I agree but at the same time there has to be some kind of balance. Guys like Daryl Morey and Nick Wright. What do they have in common? They never played the sport! At any level and so they will never understand the intangibles and why players who rode both eras rate Jordan over LeNomad.

It speaks to the greatness of Jordan that despite not playing in an analytics ruled era he rates favorably and even higher than a lot of superstars in this era do

And between me and you Daryl Morey is an overrated GM low-key

Lemme reiterate people don't hate Nick Wright because of LeNomad. He's an awful pundit and that's the truth, of course he has to hold back on his guests. What street credibility does he have? What sport did he play? Would you argue with a Doctor just because you watch Grey's Anatomy? Or argue with lawyers cos you watch Suits?

Khanben:
In all fairness to Nick, he called Jokic a pretend superstar before the playoffs. His stance was he needs to see him do it in the post season, something I think a lot of people also do.
Now he has acknowledged the jokers genius after almost all their games and Cris Carter keeps laughing at him about that

Nope. This what he said after Game 1! He basically did a Paul Pierce and ended up looking like a donkey.

People get takes wrong all the time but he gives BS takes with authority as if he's some type of expert

A40:
I'm just saying that for all their tough talking I don't believe that deep down in their heart of hearts they believe they can beat the Warriors without something extraordinary going in their favor especially without home court. I personally think not winning Game 5 could bite them in the behind.

The pressure is on Houston now.

Color me not suprised

KarnThornheart:
Calling Jokic a pretend superstar is actually a compliment. Jokic is not a superstar. There are about 6 or fewer superstars in the nba and the joker is certainly not one of them, he may be getting there but hes not there yet.

Shannon is entertaining, keeps it real and has a magnetic persona. Of course everybody loves uncle shay. Even skip has started to grow on me. But objective is one of the last words i'd use to describe either of those two. They're good for what they are, entertainment and entertainment only. At least nick wright uses numbers and doesnt just pull arguments out of his arse. Dude you actually like Rob Parker, Ewwwwww!

It was used in a derisive and dismissive manner. Jokic leads the entire playoffs in rebounds and wait for it... Assists

If some people peg Joel Embiid as a superstar then Jokic is a superstar as well

Shannon and Skip might drop the odd shock value yarns when they are stanning their faves but Shannon is a HOFer and very intelligent, he knows the X's and O's of the Sports he breaks down as well as Skip who has been covering these games before anyone on these pages were born

Nick Wright mostly quotes and regurgitate stats, a lot of time without context and he is no different than the average nerd on Twitter or Reddit. This is why he always runs into problems when they bring actual people that played the sport and know numbers aren't everything