airmark: Even shevchenko did. A40, should i call that your friend from NBA section, to come and do the needful on my behalf?
Shey anybody head correct for that your useless club? From Hidden One Corner to Pangolo Kante and even your coach who is pretty much waving the white flag
Roland17: Remember after the first fight, I told you i did not trust Canelo or any Mexican boxer because of how much juice they use. I am not buying the meat contamination argument because he is not an amateur boxer, he knew what was going on, he only thought it would not be detected. The fight will go on as planned but like you mentioned, his legacy after the fight irrespective is damaged.
You are right. I just no reason go there because despite De La Hoya's rep Canelo has been relatively clean.
The advantage of the drugs are undeniable and not the type that can be found in you and you feign ignorance
You mean he couldn't afford a nutrionist that could get him wholesome organic beef?
MitrikDenholm: Exactly, seems like a ready made alibi.
The fight will definitely proceed but if canelo wins, his victory will have question marks attached.
I feel like a fool for saying this but somehow I'm still rooting for Jon jones.
Why would I want to fight Jon Jones? I like Jon Jones but he needs to be out of the sport for good. Multiple positive tests naa! His legacy is tainted permanently
raumdeuter: This lineup will beat most teams but I am not sure it will cut it vs the likes of France Brazil and other strong attacking teams too Here everyone needs to work hard and no one should be slacking. So I will drop probably Ozil for Khedira for more midfield solidity
Let's see which Khedira shows up. You have to remember that Khedira is quite injury prone and Oezil is the chief chance creator not even Kroos who mostly gets his assist from set-plays.
I really don't see Brazil as a threat tbh. I'm more wary of Spain and to a lesser extent France.
Oezil is not a lazy player for the National team though. I don't recall Oezil ever having a bad tournament on all 4 occasions he has always been a top performer
MitrikDenholm: You should know by now that the fighting scene is filled with juicers. The better your chemist the likelier you are to get away with it. Seeing as he's being promoted by oscar who is a known juicer himself I'm not sure his protests hold much water so let's see how the investigation goes. Apparently clenbuterol is commonly found in mexican meat as its use to increase their growth and that's what he's claiming.
But seriously, why would he need Peds against a golovkin who seems like he's on the decline? I guess after what happened with Jon Jones I shouldn't be surprised nowadays, all fighters are a bunch of knuckleheads (pun intended).
This is really disappointing because he's my favourite boxer right now.
I want to give him the benefit of a doubt because he has not been caught before however USADA has been warning about this drug found in beef since 2011. I find it hard to believe that a professional fighter from Mexico would not know this and take extra precaution. It's a ready made alibi.
Jon Jones is a hopeless case
What Clenbuterol does I researched is: It boosts stamina and allows you cut weight easily. It's a significant advantage because it burns fat by increasing metabolism without the ensuing stamina loss
For real Canelo couldn't get organic beef? Them no born me yesterday nau. Anyway I'm pretty sure the fight would still hold. Too much money at stake
Bwahahaha! So it turns out Canelo was juicing! I shoulda known that Ginger muthaphucka could not be trusted! MitrikDenholm would you come out here and explain this fraud?
Lol from dubious refs in the first fight to Canelo juicing ahead of the 2nd and since God knows when. What's the point? Might as well let everybody juice and let the best juicer win
MitrikDenholm: Even in decline, the are levels. A 25 year old is not the same as a 30 year old, a 30 year old isnt the same as a 40 year old. Theres levels to this sh it.
Lol what can the difference in levels between a 41 year old and a 39 year old possibly be? At best we can both agree they were both washed up
MitrikDenholm: Punchers chance is something you cant overlook when discussing boxing abilities.
Not at all. But AJ has iron fists as well
MitrikDenholm: Right now the only fight the world wants to see is him against joshua, maybe if joshua keeps ducking he might try whyte or even bellew to get himself acquainted with the UK fans.
The money has to be right. I don't think Deontay even has an agent. I'm sure the snag is over dough with Deontay inflating his worth. He would probably be demanding for 40% of the purse. And this is a ninja who can't sell a 15k arena outside his city
raumdeuter: You know at the last world cup Ozil was shunted to the left wing that was because we didnt have any legit winger then. He was very lazy in many of the games, I remember Schweini raking for him vs Brazil for some lazy performance. Gundogan has held the DM role at City well and played it vs Chelsea and Arsenal 2 of the top tier teams in the league
OptaJoe
@OptaJoe 167 - Ilkay Gündogan completed more passes on his own today vs Chelsea than Stoke City did as a team vs Southampton yesterday (162). Machine.
I think Oezil did very well considering he was played outside his natural habitat. Remember the Algeria game wey dem wan give man hypertension. Same thing vs Ghana.
Oezil's contributions were underrated. And that lazy narrative is a myth. I don't know about club but for country Oezil is one of those players that cover the most ground. At the Euros Oezil was also solid
If Gundogan play the DM role beside Kroos then problem is solved
-----Gundogan------Kroos-----
Mueller----Oezil------Sane----
--------Werner---------
Werner is ubiquitous so he and Mueller can interchange routinely. If I hear say this lineup no win World Cup
MitrikDenholm: Sure but the question is which version of these fighters they faced. There is a version of Malignaggi that is better than a version of floyd.
The point is with Ortiz we can't really tell. Bar Wilder which remotely credible fighter can we point to in his CV? Bear in mind this dude is 39 so whatever version either faced would not be a peak one so it's not really relevant in the discourse
MitrikDenholm: Mock him all you want, he did it, he survived, he won. All that matters.
I'm actually legit not mad he won. I like Deontay and I find his personality a lot more entertaining than AJ. Strictly boxing abilities is all I'm tackling here
MitrikDenholm: And of course the american ref in america will give him certain advantages, same goes of AJ or any other fighter fighting at home. Mind you, wilder rejected 4.5m to fight one of the most feared heavy weights in ortiz for 2.1m. Give the man credit where its due.
Loool this advantage was a lot more pronounced than most. You said it yourself! He had no business leading on the cards.
I really want to see him against Whyte. I know he'd win but just out of curiosity.
MitrikDenholm: 2015 Stiverne was a legit champ, granted not the same fighter he faced in the rematch but he earned his belt.
MitrikDenholm: Thats the point you im becile. Youre not supposed to like it. The whole point is to make you uncomfortable and it is clearly working so i'm not going to relent.
No sha kill yourself while you are at it. Lol
MitrikDenholm: No thanks. I like my tactics a lot better.
Vajayjay. Let me know when you change your mind you spineless sodomite
raumdeuter: Ozil hasnt been doing much but we know he is a coaching favourite. If its against a lesser team I dont see anything wrong in Gundogan-Kroos. Against a stronger side probably Khedira-Kroos
MitrikDenholm: Stalker? nah small fry, i am your maker. Mark me, youve never faced anything like me before.
Loool you are boring the dog crap outta me. I don't like being stalked by insecure effeminate men with deep seated daddy issues like yourself. The humanitarian in me is why I'm still entertaining an obtuse porch monkey like yourself
MitrikDenholm: Naah, i'm happy where am at. Why cave into your request you fat gambling addict?
I'm giving you a surefire way to actually get under my skin and piss me off. I'm an energy efficient person and I'd hate for you to use your teen years to piss me off
Niggas have been trying for 11 years they all failed
MitrikDenholm: AJ of a surety did not face the true steel hammer otherwise you know it and i know it, he wont be the champ today.
Klitschko is better than Ortiz that's my point. AJ has slain bigger dragons
MitrikDenholm: Yet he walked to his corner like he just swat a fly off his back? He did more than push him, he swung and swung and swung but wilder wouldnt budge.
Of course after hugging and smooching his aggressor to stay alive why wouldn't he be able to walk back. Would you deny that a few tricks were deployed to allow Wilder catch his breath between rounds? That would obviously fly over your decrepit head
MitrikDenholm: Heart can only take you so far though and i hope to God for both our sakes that you're right about popeye.
Funny because Wilder is probably going to need that heart when he has to face a real fighter and not that overweight Haitian bum who took him 12 rounds once upon a time
MitrikDenholm: You know what would help you sleep at night? Admit that you're always wrong!
Lol couldn't help it man, I agree though! Which game has Hazard at False 9 ever worked? Conte just trying to get a big fat cheque with that sack. He's pretty much tanking
MitrikDenholm: You are obviously bothered, i have chased you out of this forum. I have you shaken to the extent that everyday you log in you're afraid, what hell does this wicked bloke have in store for me? Like i said, im just getting started.
Bothered? You are not the first stalker I have successfully vanquished. You won't be the last. You are a pawn in this and you don't even know it
If you want to bother me. Put your food money on the line for the Canelo/GGG and AJ/Wilder fight
But we know you're too spineless to that. Phuckin crustacean..
MitrikDenholm: Well actually, i have always felt better looking than david, never got all the hype over him.
[quote author=MitrikDenholm post=65565895]And stop stealing my terms you plagiarizing bum!
Stealing your terms? Stop sipping purp! It would kill you
MitrikDenholm: 41 Year old man, coming off the back of a loss from the gypsy king, 16+ months off, i dont care if you're ali you're not what you used to be. Somehow he sent popeye flying around the ring like a b tch.
Klitschko >>>>>> Ortiz. They are barely two years apart you Ebola infested rhesus monkey
MitrikDenholm: Why would he need to? i told you, he stood on his feet just to prove to bums like you who were questioning his chin that he can take a punch. Maybe unwise but that shows cohones!
Staggering and holding on to your partner for support for 10 seconds + doesn't count you queefin cvnt. This ain't tango. All Ortiz had to do was push him. He could barely stand
MitrikDenholm: Ohh boohoo, im just afraid for him and his glass chin against parker, i dont want him to rob me of the pleasure of seeing wilder reconfigure his face.
I saw Joshua win a fight with a broken nose. He's a Lion and will beat Parker
MitrikDenholm: FOH! Man, you are not deceiving anywhere here, you dont know jack squat about boxing. So actually you're not seeing anything at all. As a matter of fact im pretty sure you didnt even watch the fight, you just read comments from internet trolls and came in here typing rubbish like the charlatan that you are.
MitrikDenholm: Excuses Excuses Excuses. I swear I saw this coming.
41 year old Klitschko sent your man tumbling to the ground like a b tch yet you're knocking on wilder for staying on his feet in the midst of a flurry of punches from a roided KO artist. Just because he can.
Nothing "exposed" here that we didn't already know, no one ever said he's the most technical boxer in the world but that punching power, man oh man.
He proved all he needs is one punch today and more importantly he proved he has a chin. Unlike a certain someone that is trying to give excuses as to why he has been slapped around and wobbled a few times before.
Watch AJ duck him after this, funny thing is I'm not even sure he'll get past Parker. You're the one who should be ashamed of fronting for such a b tch.
"38 year old" king Kong might look 50 but trust me that man was on roids, if he wasn't he sure as hell looked like he was. And there's a reason people have been ducking Ortiz all this while as well.
You lot keep mocking wilder yet somehow he keeps winning. The windmill works small fry, the windmill works.
STFU you uncultured and ignorant swine!
You dare compare Dr Steelhammer to a 39 year old Luis Ortiz? Warapa grip you there for even comparing both.
Staggering on your opponent and hugging him like a long lost g@y lover is no better than smartly evading a second punch. You are a simple minded Neanderthal purely drawn to brute force and too dim to understand that there are levels to this.
AJ would fight Wilder in due time and whenever the fight is set and I challenge you to put your money where your s€men slurping mouth is, we both know who would be ducking.
The irony is I actually like Wilder but I'm not phoolish like you that would see black and call it white
MitrikDenholm: Shut the hell up you fat cvnt! If you meant creative you'd say creative. If you Google explosive winger all you'll see is posts or videos about speed. Stop trying to bs your way out of a hole, pace who re.
You are a fraud. You don't know anything about sports. One trick pony, pull some sh it out your arse and double down on it is all you do. Friggin arse monger.
Lmaooo this ewu is still mad he got undressed. There is a clear distinction for anyone whose IQ isn't in negative integers
Stop boring me with your hubris. If you can't comprehend 5th Grade English then sports should be the last thing you try me at
Roland17: One of the best fights I have seen in a long while. It started out slow with both boxers avoiding each other's power but soon caught fire after the fans started booing. I am giving a lot of credit to Ortiz because he was tough and the reason this fight got interesting, he was in control of the 6th, 7th and 8th round. Wilder was lucky the ref did not end the fight during these rounds and Wilder knew the only way he would win that fight was a knockout because a decision would have favored Ortiz.
Deontay started too slowly. He didn't want any parts of the handspeed and for good reason. It was strategic but risky
Wilder was really lucky he got his wind back and I kinda knew if Ortiz couldn't put him to bed in the 8th he would be too gassed to avoid a KO. At that age and the sheer effort was too much in the end
His chin was also not as bad as I thought but right now it's pretty clear what you need to do to beat Deontay
chic2pimp: Hehehehe I'd hope for Her sake She is not but you never can tell with these athletes. I think I'd have been more suspicious had she just burst onto the scene running these times at the ripe old age of 30. Alas She has been doing it for a few years now.
Yooo did you see the fight?
Afrodoc Nihilist
Did Deontay disappoint you? I think he got really lucky and should AJ not phuck up vs Parker I like his odds against Deontay,
The blueprint to beat Deontay has been exposed. The man get heart and knockout power sha I give him that
MitrikDenholm: LMAO Fvck face here is trying to twist the meaning of football terms Your rhetoric doesnt fool me small fry. You are a pace whor e who is back tracking after he has been exposed. Hold your L with pride!
Olodo Rabata.
Stop disgracing your lineage. A winger can be quick and not explosive i.e they carry no goal or creative threat whatsoever. I'm tired of schooling and giving you game for free
I wonder what you are learning in that school. Whoever was responsible for your education should have invested it in the life of an Instagram Slay Mama
MitrikDenholm: I told you my mission on this forum now includes exposing you for what you are, a snake oil salesman. It will soon be clear for all to see. I am already opening some eyes. Soon they will all rise against you, shameless demagogue! You're squirming, you're shook. And worst part is i havent even started yet small fry, you will beg for mercy. This battle of wits you cannot win because you have none
ROTFLOOOL
You sound like those Codeine and skinny jeans Tramadol boys. Seriously stop doing drugs you sound like a basehead
I actually like Wilder but boy did he get exposed last night. He has heart I give him that but naah I was disappointed
This guy was literally falling on Ortiz just to stay alive all in the name of not getting a knockdown. Did you pree the scope they were using to buy some time for him to catch his breath checking his eyes and all before the 8th round started
I salute Ortiz though! For a 45 year old his hand speed is mental
MitrikDenholm: Stop trying to back track you bum, i would believe you if every other argument you are making on this forum isnt about pace.
Hahahaha just admit you don't know what explosive means and save yourself further disgrace. In what planet does Explosive = Speed .
Confused cretin! Don't engage me further. I would expose you for your lack of understanding of even 5th grade English
MitrikDenholm: Yet somehow the mental molestation i have been inflicting on you says otherwise. I own you small fry, i went up in your brain and sprayed my name in there, then left a couple wrappers of snickers in there just to mess with your gluttonous brain.
Lmaooo you take the time to follow me to another part of Nairaland to post on threads that you've never been on and you are talking of mental molestation. Boy you need Jesus! Only him can save you from the condition I've put you in. . You're broken
MitrikDenholm: Actually small fry, black currant juice + TFSH, I'm a creature of habit you see. You are my entertainment for the past few hours seeing as i've run out of things to watch so i guess i never had a routine to begin with.
crying? LOL! I told you, i will turn you into a clown. Half way through!
. You possess all the traits of a deviant. I've seen all the tell-tale signs of a mentally unwell person.
Reclusive. Check 700 monikers on a faceless forum. Check Hermit. Check Napoleon and Masochistic tendencies. Check Bipolar behavior. Check
I'd hate to turn on the news and see another person I could have helped throw it all away and take other people with them.
MitrikDenholm: LOL like i said, im not even old enough to drink! But how about when an old man takes the time to engage me, how should that make me feel?
. You display all the traits of a kid that didn't have a strong male figure in your life. Think of me as your mentor conducting an intervention
MitrikDenholm: LMAO! Cold blood, the go to phrase for every fragile wet wipe. i told you, i will make your existence on this forum miserable. You will beg for mercy small fry. You will.
I'm only miserable when I lose money(hint hint). You really are certifiably mad if you think I'm moved by your drivel