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jackbauersballs: Agreed.

It is not a disaster, but it is certainly NOT impressive...

jackbauersballs: You keep missing the point. Torres has not been prolific in front of goal for Chelsea. Then again Neither has Ba. the question now is WHY?

jackbauersballs: Lampard is a creative midfielder for Chelsea...How does he have the highest stats for goal attempts at Chelsea in the last 6 games without creating a single goal?
How can a Striker thrive when his midfielder is hustling for goals instead of creating them?

jackbauersballs: Nobody is dragging this with you....

occam: They may still get the 6th seed. Right now, its a four way race (Warriors, Rockets, Jazz & Lakers) for 6,7 & 8 seed. Always love the West.

occam: Kobe is a fierce and competitive guy. And I bet he'll carry that team to the playoffs even with broken fingers and all. People forget the intangibles this guy brings every single night and focus on the highlight reels (dunks, blocks, fast break points etc) from Lebron.

jackbauersballs: Ba has started the last 6 games he has played...Almost the exact same time frame where Lampard has tallied more goal attempts(13 shots) than he has and provided 0 assists. Would you say Ba is a Dud? or Should you be wondering why Lampard would rather go for goal than create chances for his Striker?

You decide.



You guys keep shouting about 4 goals as if that is something fantastic

4 goals in 13 appearances is pretty poor by any standards.Especially if those goals are against less-than-stellar teams like Brentford,Southampton, and WestBrom.

Now we know Ba is a fantastic goalscorer, no doubt. But for whatever reasons his performance has dropped since he signed for Chelsea.
How much of this is due to playing for a new side? and how much of this is due to playing under a faulty system?
You decide...

jackbauersballs: I fail to see what you are driving at.

Do you not get what I am telling you? This is not a case of Ba vs Torres...

Both of them are not utilized effectively under the current dispensation.

For instance...In the Last 6 games, Hazard has had only 1 assist, Mata 2, Lampard 0

In the same time period Hazard has tallied 6 shots, Mata 9 shots and Lampard 13!

Yet in the same time period Torres has 11 shots(5 in one game-Sparta) shots and Ba has 10 shots(6-in one game -Westbrom).

All stats from ESPN.

Now it says a lot when the players who are supposed to be CREATING goals are infact not doing so, but racking up shots on goal to rival and in Lampard's case surpass their Strikers shot tallies!

Strikers under Chelsea will always struggle as long as the Midfielders keep going for personal glory!

FBS: mr twitter out of the clash with the Germans. what you guys gonna do?

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]Lol - Broda I tire, not even Up to 2 months and here are some Jews Selling a 'Blind conception'!

Coogar, Jackbauer, Debosky and Nateevs, I'd Love to Know why Rafa has decided to reserve Nando for the trivial games and Ba for the Crackers - Present a Sound Logical Reason that answers the Question and i vow to Shut it on this debate![/color]

jackbauersballs: I must say, I have to agree with Coogar on this one.

Even if Jesus came down to wear the number 9 shirt for us, he would never succeed with the kind of players we have.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to play a lone striker in a Winger-less system and expect him to bag them for fun.

Torres and Ba have been forced to play as False nine's very similar to Messi at Barca, unfortunately they both lack the movement of the great Argentine (Possibly because he is a converted winger?)

Agreed, Torres has been pants since he moved. But what excuse do we have for Ba?

Pataki: No Boateng, no scarface, and you are asking for a bet? Dude, you must be drunk with Bavaria beer at this time of the day!

I would rather hold a bet when the real Bavaria Munshyte team that has the twenty points lead gap in the 'burn-this-league-down' is facing Arsenal.

Save your bet. Trust me, you would have recourse to be grateful after the match!

ritchboy: 44 points, 9 weeks to go, it's squeaky-bum time!




6 weeks left for Ibime to salvage his season

dayokanu: Abi Wolfgang wan enter top 5 for FA cup ?

But slide down on the league table

How many people dey make playoffs

elampiro: Is it not normal for players who fell down from tackles to stay on the ground for a while to recover? Even Vidic who got two fist punch to his nose recovered without injury after a while, though his face was red. How does this part form a reason for judging the tackle?

Please stop derailing the purpose of this trend jor.

Havilah93: choi, we should have ended united once and for all tonight.

I dont feel good about that return leg, more so, do away goals count? if yes that would be good for us

elampiro: When Nani challenged Arbeloa for a bouncing ball inside his own half, he seemed committed and nothing more. Cakir deemed it dangerous and after waiting until the winger recovered from a non-existent injury, out came the red card. Nani was incredulous. Ferguson went ballistic. With good reason.

ddippset: lol, being in the crime scene makes you an accomplice? you think say na nigerian police I de talk for here? The crime scene here refers to nani being involved in the clash with abeloa, innocent here means an innocent nana who didn't see abeloa charging towards him, and running from the cops here means rolling on the floor and feingning injury. It makes sense think about. And one more thing I have to be in nani's head to know he didn't see abeloa? When the full replay is right there on youtube and everywhere for the world to see? Common man!

ddippset: @ A40, are you mr A40, saying that mr nani, one nil up, coveniently enroute the quater final of the uefa champions league, saw mr abeloa and deliberately stamped him in the stomach? So that he gets sent off and cost his team the victory? Does this even make any sense to you? Abi abeloa thief I'm wife? Even an 1mbecile wouldn't do that! The issue about rolling on the floor, goalkeepers and stuff are not even important, but I did go out of my way to give you a reason why nani could feign an injury but you would have non of it. If we cannot agree on the primary argument whether nani saw abeloa then we can't even have a debate. Its amazIng how you still insist that nani saw abeloa despite the existence of the video clip showing the full projectile of the ball with nani in full view of the camera. Its just amazing.

elampiro: You are not being genuine in your argument. If you watch the match, you actually know the truth deep down. Even die hard anti-Man United fans who came to my house were shocked about the decision. Madrid players never protested or expected a red.

elampiro: Why should Nani go and sympathized witj Arbeloa? They both contested for a free ball, if at all it was Arbeloa who was in position to avoid the collusion.

elampiro: It is not every high foot that is a fowl. Colocini dangerous tackle that broke Ba's nose was never sanctioned, not even a yellow. That is because they went for same ball, Ba decided to go with his head, Colocini went with his foot. And that was a thousand times worse tackle than Nani's.

elampiro: Again, if you have judge the vidic's case not to be a foul because the keeper was expected to used his hands (he missed and punch)

elampiro: You are not being genuine in your argument. If you watch the match, you actually know the truth deep down. Even die hard anti-Man United fans who came to my house were shocked about the decision. Madrid players never protested or expected a red.

elampiro: Why should Nani go and sympathized witj Arbeloa? They both contested for a free ball, if at all it was Arbeloa who was in position to avoid the collusion.

elampiro: It is not every high foot that is a fowl. Colocini dangerous tackle that broke Ba's nose was never sanctioned, not even a yellow. That is because they went for same ball, Ba decided to go with his head, Colocini went with his foot. And that was a thousand times worse tackle than Nani's.

elampiro: Again, if you have judge the vidic's case not to be a foul because the keeper was expected to used his hands (he missed and punch)

ddippset: abeloa played a fast one on nani and nani knew it. He stayed down to attract sympathy from the ref. Refs always sympathise with the 'hurt'. But all this is secondary. the referee was employed to officiate the match and not to play god. His primary concern should be whether nani saw abeloa or not. For goodness sake nani had his full glare on the ball and abeloa showed up from his other side. Those that are saying that nani saw abeloa, I wonder where they got that from. Was there another version of the same game somewhere else? I wonder. On aljazeera, supersport, goal.com, and other major sport shows they all see it as a bad decison but here in nigerian radio stations and nairaland everyone is arguing and arguing. maybe reflective of our political predicament? Btw marca also thinks it was a red card. For very obvious reasons right

elampiro: @ddippset: You are so correct, Nani did not see Arbeloa until Arbeloa collided with him, his eyes were on the ball. Many anti-Man U have already agreed that Nani didn't see Arbeloa, but maintained it was a dangerous play. But highest, it should have been a yellow. Xavi Alonso said the red was a hard decision to take.

elampiro: Mourinho said he wasn't sure of the decision. Ex Turkey referee boss said that decision will affect the future of the referee career. Yahoo news called it a controversial decision. CNN called it a wrong decision, supersport news called it a wrong decision. ESPN too, also some European media tagged it a 'scandalous decision'.

elampiro: It was a night Nani took the show off Ronaldo and Di Maria. It was a match that should have made his CV. The referee knew it was certainly a United's night, he had to do something fast.

ddippset: A lot of people keep going on and on about nani rolling on the floor being evident of the fact that he stamped on abeloa deliberately. For goodness sake how does nani rolling on the ground show he did it deliberately? Very inconclusive! Its just like saying an innocent guy fleeing a crime scene upon seeing the police means that he did the crime! No way! Inconclusive. Nani stayed on the ground because he wanted the referee's sympathy.in any clash of bodies the referee's instinct would be to be sympathetic with the guy who's wounded or 'grounded.'The ref isn't god and nani knew it,he didn't want to be seen as the villain cus abeloa actually was and so he feigned injury. Logic! I really don't understand how anybody who watched the match live, and prolly seen a couple of replays could say that nani saw abeloa. Amazing how a thin line exists between football fanatism and dishonesty nowadays. Nani had his sight on the flight of the ball on the way. Now let's give abeloa and the ref the benefit of the doubt and assume nani did see him, wasn't abeloa supposed to duck after seeing what nani wanted to do? But he didn't ,instead he went straight into the foot of nani. Abeloa only succeeded in pvncking the world minus me. Some said ok, nano didn't see him but it was a dangerous play? Seriously? Raising a foot is a dangerous play? Bicycle kicks and over head kicks now dangerous plays? Maybe zidane should have been sent off for dangerous play against levercusen, or rooney should be sent of against man city, or maybe ibra should be sent off against england for all those wonderful bicycle kick-goals for dangerous play. The referee made a blunder! He killed man u.

kandiikane: Rubbish!

nitlad:

A-40 Mr cleanshit abi na clean urine, how market?

Shey the time for Kerewa dance don reach?

I'll revive Zule Zoo's career for this, just so they can perfom a special Kerewa for us on this thread.


Get ready!

StarBoard: @A-40,
I beg to disagree.
If the rule 12 which people are claiming implies intent, Nani shouldn't be sent off. Forget the play-acting. Nani was never going in maliciously on Arbeloa.
Furthermore, if we are talking dangerous play, how come the Vidic incident didn't warrant a read card, since it was to the head?
And i do not think that just because it's his area it gives the goalkeeper the authority to punch people in the head. If Vidic had suffered a concussion (which could have possibly happened), would you be defending a keeper who was slow to react?

elampiro: You are not being fair in your judgment. If there was anyone who could have prevented that collusion, it was Arbeloa. Nani never saw him coming from behind until Arbeloa ran into him, because Nani has his eyes on the ball trying cool it down. That wasn't a kick on Abeloa, if you played football you should understand. That couldn't have led to any pains or injury to Arbeloa. It was Nani that had a hard fall from the tackle. We see such unintentional collusion every time in football. Colocini on Ba was far worse an incidence.

elampiro: You said Diego Lopez was protecting his area? If a goalkeeper protects his area and foul an opponent inside the 18 box what is it? Or have you not seen keepers conceding penalties for bringing players down when they missed time their tackles in their 18 yard box? It looks to me you didn't watch the match and never saw these actions or your hate for United won't let you see the truth. That was a missed time tackle from Diego Lopez and he handed a heavy punch to Vidic's face. Vidic got the ball, but Lopez didn't, that was a dangerous tackle which prevented a goal scoring opportunity. It was worse offense than Nani's, though both were unintentional.

elampiro: This is a worse incident than Nani's case.

The referee considered this dangerous tackle by Madrid keeper early in the match to be an accident (unintentional), and he gave Nani a red for an accidental collusion.

Vidic headed a United corner, Madrid keeper Diego Lopez came late, missed the ball, and gave Vidic a heavy punch. Vidic went own immediately.

elampiro: Nani went for the ball, had his eyes on it, Arbeloa could have avoided Nani, be he decided to run into Nani from his (Nani) blind side. Then there was an unintentional (accidental) collusion. Nani got a red for that, while Diego Lopez walked free.

Don't forget Nani was in the air with his two feet when Arbeloa ran into him from behind. Imagine the impact on the ground and the pains. It was unexpected, is he made of iron?

elampiro: The referee considered this dangerous to be an accident, and he gave Nani a red for an accidental collusion.