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LordReed:
You have a habit of not answering the question asked and going off on a tangent. Again, is Hollywood normalising people asking for evidence that can be verified?

You obviously do not understand predictive programming.
If the ideas of God and the spirituality are being constantly scoffed at in many Hollywood films , do you know what it does to a truth seeker's psyche. And NO, Hollywood does not expressly tell you to ask for evidence, as it just a part of your programming. You must have come across many philosophers' work and their schools of thought, some other junk and opinions by many so-called well-informed guys in humanities, and ultimately any bullshit backed up by scientific theory. As Science is the supposed ultimate knowledge to the carnal mind—it informs you what to look in different things, and anything that does not conform to its verification methods should be discarded or tagged irrational. it's all just a working system meant to gradually corrupt your minds and making you believe you think for yourselves but rather your thinking is actually being done for you. Do you know that a sweedish scientist, I think, now claims cannibalism is man's last, abi na only, hope of saving himsel?

Do I need to be a surgeon to demand proof from the surgeon that he knows what he is talking about? Does a surgeon not explain to a patient or the patient's family what exactly the operation will entail and the expected outcomes?

Your proof for spiritism is a fictional character? LMFAO! You are hilarious.

There's no veil but I can't question your god and you don't see how contradictory that sounds. Do you call inability to question your god transparency?

So you're saying a patient or their relatives would understand completely if a surgeon chose to explain the nitty-gritty of a major procedure? Bros no dey deceive yourself na. In my experience they only give overview of the impending procedure, which more than 70% of those involved doesn't even grasp.
I want you to go your Oba's palace and question him. Let's see if you've got the cojones.

God no be your mate wey you fit question. Can you even open your mouth to question an infernal being if summoned before you.

God alone knows why he doesn't want to physically be in touch with his creations, so issue of transparency does not come Up. Besides death is the missing link and it smiles at us.

nwabekeyi:
They are 3 different theories that should be understood differently, don’t muddle them up. You have started commuting the fallacy of a strawman, talk about evolution first before going into abiogenesis and Big Bang.

I once stated here that your Evolution theory is a poorly-concocted fat LIE because the groundwork upon which it is set up is as weak as an egg shell. Perhaps you were eager to show me the embellishments and paddings that were added after its bullshit foundation but I'm not having none of that.
If you're hellbent on enlightening me on Evolution but don't wanna go the basis please save the lecture for your kids

LordReed:
So in other words Hollywood normalised people asking for evidence that can be verified?

Hollywood is just a tool, just as most philosophers, many scientists are but Hollywood's is just more pronounced for its wider reach.
If I start watching many Hollywood movies for the next one year or two, I will certainly predict the next thing to be normalised for all of you, conformist lot. Though the clues are quite subtle, only trained eyes could pick'em up, they wreak havoc to your impressionable subconscious.

The unequivocal was there to prevent you from using this same spiritism you mention as an example and I guess you caught the hint quite well. And as can be seen you don't have any example apart from the spiritism.

All it boils down to is still a veil. You won't get access until you are initiated, you won't get access until you devote years to it. If your god is so intuitive as you would have us believe why does it need all of this?

You are not ready to work. Do you just become a surgeon overnight, does it not take years of training to be one? Good things don't come easy. Even Doctor Strange had to dump reason for spiritism once his eyes got opened, and yes it can be that overwhelming. LMAO!!
As I said, there's no veil anywhere. God does as he wills you can't question him. However; there had been those who respectfully questioned him for clarifications on some matters. It's all about your status before him, man. Can you even question your rulers?

Blakjewelry:
lol but its easier for you to believe that your god pop up from nowhere and start creating things. now for the big bang issue you raised, if you are to look back in time? you will get to a starting point that is where our own time line start and any information preceding this time line will not be available because it actually belong to another time frame. similar the happens when you try to wrap your head around a black hole once you enter into it all information are lost you can only tell what happened close to it same with the big bang, the good thing is it left evidence that it occurred. when it was predicted that if actually happened it will leave a trail behind the instructions to test it wasnt available but today they are available and the result confirm it. and for your information what you considered nothingness is not actually empty have you heard vacuum energy?

You're quick to accuse someone gullibility that you also showcase. You were told or probably read some junk about black holes and guzzled it down like zobo drink, SMH. Have seen a black hole with your eyes? Can you create one? Have you travelled through one? Mtcheeew. You choose to believe in such physical phenomena as black holes and Evolution, without physical proofs, and I choose to believe in a spiritual God without physical proofs but you think your the smart one. I'm not gonna laugh at you, I promise.

nwabekeyi:
You are giving validation to my initial statement, you don’t know what evolution really is.

You seem to be finding it difficult to differentiate evolution from abiogenesis and big bang theory.

I think you should keep calm and let’s educate you on it before you argue against it.

If you don’t know those 3 aforementioned phenomena have a common ground then you still have a long a way.

LordReed:
Programmed by?

So you don't know you're being subjected to heavy doses programming everyday of your life? From humanities courses in schools to News to Hollywood movies to... In short it's everywhere these days. TV programmes are called so for a reason. Why do many people now believe they are actually cancer to the Earth that should be rooted out thereof. The idea was spread through many Hollywood movies. Don't you know that Thanos was actually the hero in "The Avengers", and the character played by L Jackson in "The Kinsmen" was as well in the movie. Homosexuality was also normalised through Hollywood.
It's a pity most people don't know what predictive programming is and how it works.

Name 5 things that are unequivocally real that cannot be demonstrated.

EDIT: this statement "I dunno how to discuss God with someone who's been programmed to ask for things to be placed before them before they can form an opinion about them." is the veil I am talking about.

I swear, Reed, you're a dodgy fella. LOL. Why'd you have to use "unequivocally"? If all realities were unequivocal we wouldn't be here.

If you want to be a Prof. you don't stop your education at primary or "O" level, you'd have to go further, wouldn't you? Likewise spritism. You don't just go church or mosque for worship alone and expect all concealed realities to be placed before you, nobody says it's that easy. It's a status you achieve through years of devotion to God/spiritism. You can't even participate in Oro festival in Yoruba land if you're not initiated. Thus there's no veil anywhere, you or anyone around you just never got the rung or anywhere mmeaningful in spiritism while you were yet a theist. No status is handed to anybody in spritism on a platter of gold, you just have to earn it like most difficult things in life. So get off your britches and get to work, Reed.

LordReed:
So why did you say we are saying the same thing when we clearly aren't?

You are attempting to conflate natural processes with artificial processes through intuition. That is faulty reasoning because there are many things in this universe that are counterintuitive and would not have been resolved if we were depending on intuition alone. For instance the sun appears to revolve around the earth if you went by your intuition alone but we look deeper and find that this is not the case. Similarly we cannot simply say because everything we are able to do requires our participation as agents therefore the existence of the universe requires an agent. That is something that needs to be investigated and demonstrated.

There's absolutely no mix up here. You're just too uptight about this that you don't see the humour therein.

Sure I don't have an idea of how your god works because when asked for a demonstration of how your god works you hide your god behind a veil like the wizard of oz.

So you are saying your god spoke to the river to carve the Grand Canyon? How long did it take? And what was the reason for the carving?

No-one's hiding God.
Frankly, I dunno how to discuss God with someone who's been programmed to believe they can't form an opinion of anything except it's placed before them. It's a tough task for not every reality can be demonstrated.

nwabekeyi:
lets see if you know what evolution really is. What do you understand by evolution?

It’s worth your time because you are arguing against what you know nothing about..

I put it to you that you don’t what it is.

You are quite hilarious. Before I'd waste my time on the mumbo jumbo, Evolution believers would have to provide concrete proofs for—how before space, time, matter, consciousness, intelligence, and life there was nothing; then of a sudden nothingness exploded and created the universe, oh its now called multiverse, right? LMAO. How nothingness, without DNA, became a single-celled living organism.(This in particular is of interest to me as you previously stated things without DNA can become any other thing given time.)
You will give an example of a natural explosion– not big bang, that creates rather than destroys.

nwabekeyi:
Its because you don’t understand it, I can proof that.

It's not just because I don't understand but because I deem it awfully silly. It is not worth spending my time on, and it never will be.
As far as I'm concerned Evolution theory will forever remain hocus-pocus.

LordReed:
We are not saying the same thing because natural process are distinguished from artificial ones. Elektro will not naturally develop AI because it is not a process dictated by nature.

The Elektro reference was meant to show you, though sarcastic, anything created doesn't just spring into existence and evolve without foreign inputs.

Now can you answer my question.

You obviously haven't got any idea of how God works 'cos if you did you wouldn't be asking if The almighty God formed the Grand Canyon with his hands. Lemme clue you in a bit: He only says "be and it is". Whatever it is you called natural processes have already been set into motion by his words, which can be likened to some sorta algorithm, so no further external input is required. And unlike man's algorithm that requires modifications from time to time, largely for his limited knowledge, God's is stabilised.

vezycash:
People complaining about MTN are being unfair. I don't want to use the word IGNORANT. Let's just say less technically inclined. I have tools to measure my data consumption locally and there are just two areas MTN cheats data in my findings

1. MTN night browsing plan. They claim it's 50 naira for 500MB but it's actually 480MB
2. IFF you manage your data and still have some left after the 30 days, MTN will start magic. NCC has directed that network providers should give 15 days extra... Because of this, they'll do wayo once the original time has passed.

Apart from these MTN is pretty aite...

Those crying foul are always on Instagram, Facebook, snapcat and YouTube. Here's the kicker, if you watch a video with both MTN and slow glo,your data consumption will be different.

If your internet is fast, Youtube will serve you 1080p or even 4k videos. But if it's crawling and slow like glo, then, they'll serve you 240p or even 144p. In English, this means that a 2 minute video @4k resolution can cost 200MB but just 3MB @144p.

When browsing the internet, the same thing happens. The size of most sites is about 10MB currently. Pictures alone can be 10MB. JavaScript another 3-5mb. And that's without any video. If you're connecting with slow internet, pictures will not load, JavaScript will just give up. But if your internet is fast...


Unless our internet becomes as cheap as India's Jio network, it's still going to be very expensive. I applaud the minister for this directive. However, a better way to get this data cost down is to go to india and woo the CEO of JIO to come to 9ja. Give the old man tax break for 20 years to offset the initial investment.

For those who remember - MTN and Airtel sim used to be 10k. Until glo came in and dropped it to 100 naira. MTN said that per second billing was TECHNICALLY INFEASIBLE but implemented it within a month when GLO did it.

Credible competition is what we need to get this stuff down.

Those people quoting the high prices of western internet are 419 people. American, British internet is different from ours. It comes with unlimited text messaging and phone calls.

Not only that, most people don't mind because they are using unlimited wired internet.

Thank you for the enlightenment.

nwabekeyi:
Yes I think it’s possible as long as they get enough in a constantly changing environment but evolution doesn’t have any purpose. It doesn’t purposely choose to form a particular organism.

I can proof to you that you have a poor knowledge on evolution

At the emboldened line: if I have got a poor knowledge of hogwash of any sort then I'm all right. Evolution is a poorly-concocted menadacity to play on the intelligence of the so-called educated lot, and we can confidently it's working.

nwabekeyi:
The difference is that all these you mentioned except chicken do not have DNA and yes, given enough time in a constantly changing environment, a chicken can evolve into an ostrich.

The three words are DNA, time and Environmental changes.

Ok, then. So you believe a chicken will actually become an ostrich, an ostrich will become a giraffe, a giraffe will evolve into a dinosaur or something. I will have to suspend reason to see any sense in this moonshine.

LordReed:
Was the Grand Canyon formed by a god slicing open the ground or the action of water?

We're saying the same thing, mate. The humanoid robot known as Elektro will develop AI given enough time, will it not?

Truthdefender66:
My friend you're perfectly correct. Given enough time, ordinary stone can break the rule and norm of gravity and start flying in the air all by itself.
Even given enough time, a tornado can assemble the pieces of car engine parts left in a backyard and leave the engine in a state of perfect working condition.

This really cracks me up. Lemme chip in mine: given enough time, a tornado can sweep through a junkyard and assemble a Boeing 737 max; given enough time, sand can become good garri ijebu;given enough time, Zuma rock can become the tallest building in the world; given enough time, a chicken can become an ostrich. In fact given enough time, anything can become any other thing. Bloody jokers!!

Tensor:
Their own observation?
You're an ignoramus

When you've got anything reasonable, devoid of invectives, to say you'll probably have my attention.

tintingz:
Yes.

Use another English.

Ok, some other time.

tintingz:
What's this one saying?

So you no hear English. SMH

Endevil:
What do you mean by "inside life" things?

The Yoruba have 4 days of the week each dedicated to the obverance of a group of deities that correspond well with one another. The purpose is to balance out so 25 percent is spent in each area of worship so the people are spiritually balanced. Overwork in one area or too much focus leads to imbalance.

Wake up out your slumber

"inside life" is a catchphrase to express how deep something is. In this case your deep knowledge. Geddit?

tintingz:
There are various members of homo(genus) in human evolution, there's nothing like single couples or first man.

It's ridiculous to think some single couples were responsible for the population of this world and human race.

You have merely pooh-poohed at the single-couple axiom not refuted it with this.

EMILO2STAY:
honestly i didnt know that people are this ignorant and are willing to be in it until I started this thread, am only trying to wake people up, those who have sense should use it. I myself was once like them but I used my reasoning and common sense.
its a pity many dont care to look into things like this, they only care about davido and chioma kind of news. we have all been deceived by the ruling elite and the deceit is still waxing strong. ignorance is a choice those who seek the truth shall find it.

the ruling elite who are all controlled and connected by the occult know the world is a flat plane but would not tell the people because the whole purpose of the heliocentric lie is to hide the creator. that is why the heliocentric model is more endearing to the atheist.

Courses of study in higher institutions aren't called programmes for nothing, there is a reason to that. So whatever they come upon that is against their programme programming/brainwashing should be jettisoned with utmost contempt. This unfortunately is more pronounced with the "follow follow" modern black people who know nothing about life except what oyinbo tell them. And you, I believe, must have caught a glimpse of that on your thread.

All I know is the Earth I live on is a stationary plane. However; if anyone believes otherwise they should come forth with real proofs, no CGI, no doctored horseshit, I'll amend my view.

Endevil:
It is indeed a spiritual war and yet its about bloodline.


The Caucasian planted so much of his seed in Africans we are now fighting each other.

We carry more of our fathers DNA so that means many are acting in the interests of the cave beast, some conditioning and others bloodline.

Wake up out your slumber

Your level of knowledge is far deeper than ordinary just as life is than mere Caucasians' deceptive theories. "Inside life" things.

EMILO2STAY:
what have they done to expose themselves.

You can clearly see how the thread as been attack from all angles just to make it die off so people will remain in ignorance

I told you before that you couldn't win this war. 99% of the world lives in abject and brazen ignorance. You can see the signatures of their ignorance and arrogance all over the thread.
People tend to believe what they are told more than their own observations and perceptions.

Which one be English article again!? It's called the article "a" or "an"

Oyinbo too love violence. Can't they just provide them with headgear and body pads to cushion against blows?

Oga OP, if you do not wake up from this your sleep I go pour cold water for your head.

EMILO2STAY:
We cannot have sunlight through out the whole earth because the sun is small and close and its light covers the areas directly below it.

This is the reason when the sun moves it takes its light along with it to another location. The earth below it is way too large for its light to reach every area at the same time.
The sun is clearly not 93million miles away because we can see the clouds around and behind it. Besides over the ages heliocentrist astronomical figures as regards to the distance of the sun has been changed from time to time.

Example. Copernicus calculated the distance of the sun to be 3,394,200miles, later kepler decided it was actually 12,376,800miles. Benjamin Martin calculated to between 81 to 82 million miles.
Even Isaac newton once said it doesn't matter whether its 28or 54 miles for either would do just as well. How scientific is the statement?.

Oh EMILO2STAY, you have just kick-started a battle you can't win, however grounded you are in this subject.
The "spinning ball-earth" theory seems to be biggest fraud ever perpetrated in the history of mankind. It's so big that even the brightest of minds bought into it without reservations. Someone said the "Evolution theory" is the most potent spell in the Universe, no, it's not, I think it's actually the spinning ball-earth mumbo jumbo.
As you can see here, you have asked the ball-earth faithfuls to use their God-given senses but, trust me, they would never do that as they believe more in theories lies than realities. In fact it takes an absolute suspension of reason to believe you live on a ball spinning endlessly in the middle of nowhere.

If bloody atheists could demand concrete and verifiable proofs of God's existence ( a spiritual entity) rather than some spiritual anecdotes, it would not be out of place to demand likewise for an utterly physical and observable phenomenon. Would it?

Adakintroy2:
Men who will be ass will be ass. But the disgrace is on the producers pretending they do not know their plastc intent They technically sexuality the eating of the cream.


Fuckers. Some rational mind will wake up one day and sit on a round table to make plastic dolls so grown men can Bleep. Before this things go into circulation its approved by the authories. Supposely intelligent rational minds.

However if you Bleep a sisteen yrs old Your insane. This is how knowledge has thrown us far from the truth l.

Really twisted

You see the world for what it is.

tintingz:
So what makes you think I've not experience things out there? If I get an experience out there so what next? Will you believe any of my experiences?

I asked you some questions, you are telling me to go out for experiences as if I'm always in my room.

The articles and informations online are not some people experiences?

The way you dey understand some comments self. Who said you are always in your room? Oga o. You could be physically present somewhere and things would pass you by without you noticing.
Well, one could easily deduce from your numerous posts that you rely heavily on what you read online, that's not bad actually. However, if you need to see the world for what it is you have got to stop seeing it through other people's eyes.

tintingz:
Wait, make me understand lanrexlan and your claims here.

Are the people writing articles online ghost?

Are researches online done by ghost?

Or you want us to visit library for every information in this 2019?

Please tell us how you get your source of information?

Guy, go out there and get real experiences. If you do this, ehn, you go go comfortably sit on your couch and call many subjective online articles bullshit

Empiree:
there are sick ppl in the world. They need to be in psych ward not on the streets.

Funny this one married second wife (tree) in Mexico

Ahhh!! I give up.

Empiree:
Bestiality is already in place. As you rightly said, it is only matter of time before they start making noise about their rights like 'gayright', which started gradually and it is now normal. I have already seen oyinbo man married tree. Another guy married a dog. They will soon get the nerve to trouble us to accept them like homosick

Tree again? Oga o.