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i mean from aswan egypt to sudan wardi halfa

http://wysinger.homestead.com/jebel_barkal20.jpg
very ruined amun temple in northern sudan, considered the largest amun temple outside of karnak egypt. this is the inside of the temple of mut wife to the god amun.

if you travel from southern egypt, you will have to take a ferry from aswan egypt to walfa sudan, which takes nearly 24 hours. however, both sudan and egypt are talking about providing roads to cut the time to travel between two countries, they do have roads but people are not allowed to go to them. it is mainly political from both side of the border, due to a dispute of land.

how far is this area from Egypt it all depends, tpia. because some of the monuments is definitely spread out from each other. for example northern sudan is nearly the same land mass as egypt. so, it is a huge area to cover, and since it is few roads getting to some of the monuments will be quite a journey. however, the situation of roads is improving due to the fact that the government had builted dams near these areas to provide electricity, and some companies mainly from europe and the middle east , sudan and egypt are starting to now provide organize tours. as the road situation improves, i think more tourist will follow.

bark stand of king natakamani which is now housed in the Berlin Egyptian Museum. found in the temple of naga sudan.
http://wysinger.homestead.com/nat.jpg
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://wysinger.homestead.com/nat.jpg&imgrefurl=http://wysinger.homestead.com/nubian103.html&usg=__IBewjiV874Mh3hE1c3GOa4Nac5g=&h=800&w=581&sz=76&hl=en&start=28&um=1&tbnid=mhKpaVGVmUz6oM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstatue%2Bof%2Bqueen%2Bamanitore%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D18%26um%3D1

sorry queen shanakhdakheto.http://1.bp..com/_6sah9qUqtb0/SQJcvBaA0RI/AAAAAAAAAAM/AYNIG0Am4p4/s320/kush+queen.jpg

I wonder why Sudan isnt a tourist destination like Egypt, with all these statues, temples and pyramids there.

that is a good question, tpia. it has alot to do with the government, and not wanting visitors or tourist in the country, however, they are starting to realize that utilizing these monuments will be a benefits for the people. also, the situations of darfur have not helped the country image. even though that have significantly abated. however, the monuments are very far from the darfur area, and the people are extremely welcoming to visitors, and the locals are ready for tourist. as a matter of fact, many companies from europe and gulf arab countries are starting to set up tourist facilites as we speak, and the government is providing more roads to get to these monuments. also, these gulf arabs are helping to restore some of the pyramids and temples, which is a good thing. i guess.

meroitic queen shanakhdakheto she rule what is now sudan in 170bc to 150bc.

the other pharaohs are "tanoutamon"
"Senkamisken"
"anlamani"
"Aspelta"

here are the statues they found in northern sudan

http://wysinger.homestead.com/black-pharaohs-hdr-615.jpg

this is a recent find in the dessert of northern sudan of five statures of nubian kings that ruled both sudan and egypt. needless to say, one of the pharaohs is even mentioned in the bible in the book of kings.
the pharaohs are taharqa(he is mentioned in the bible as the ethiopian pharaoh)

Juba II, king of Numidia and later Mauretania, 52 BC. Married Cleopatra's daughter.


wow, did not know that queen cleopatra's daughter was married to the king of juba.

to sexylemon:so you think Sudan have more beautiful girls than Nigeria? there is something wrong with ys eyes
i was not going to respond to you, but i had to in this case since your are talking about my people. you don't have a clue how extremely diverse sudan really is? here is a couple of videos, i have found on you tube of the different ethnicities that make up sudan today. i love alec wek as a person and she is a role model to follow, however, not all sudanese look like alec wek dear. i am sorry from these videos to disappoint you. even though i don't think alec wek is ugly as you do.

first one is a sudanese nubian singing group from the north of the country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gebUGY6R1nE&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjfjTiGkPzI&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoJ7li-7Zwo&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4MJn6vG_OA&feature=related
these are sudanese singers that live in the north of the country, however, many people from other regions live in the north as well


sudanese from the south
where alek wek is from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3zRoKurbEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cNQ2SGxBDY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F3jrHjpjAY

eastern sudan
beja ethnic group

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6fiqtp1te4&feature=PlayList&p=D6A3AE61D7371828&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14
singer from darfur region

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t949Yg_PGeI&feature=related
singing group from many sudanese ethnic groups calling for africa to unite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkzp0QDwBCc

mosque of djenne in Mali

http://www.sacredsites.com/africa/mali/images/mosque-of-djenne-500.jpg

art work from benin or Ife west africa
http://galerie-herrmann.com/arts/art3/Ife_Benin/18_Bueste_120J/Ife_Bust_gr.jpg

this is a burial tomb in el kurru in northern sudan.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2399/2318301968_70bbd25aaf.jpg

http://images.travelpod.com/users/jenniferholden/sudan_2005-2006.1148161320.khartoum_-_wanderings_029.jpg
sorry, he is the statue of arkamani I

the statue was founded at the city of meroe, and the pharah is arkamani I one of the pharaohs during the meroitic period. the photo of the statue is in front of the khartoum national museum and the lady is obviously a tourist.

this is one of my favorites above all else even though many people will consider this simple glassware. however, from my perspective this drinking glass is not only beautiful and it is my favorite color darkblue, but it is timeless. it looks very modern.
this glass is dated during the late meroitic period in around 250-300 AD, this was found in one of the pyramids in meroe. some of the glasses is now house at the museum in khartoum in sudan and university of pisa in italy.

http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=ICN/ICN002/F0020609.jpg : simple but it is my favorite, because the glassware is timeless. the writing of the glassware is actually greek, which means the meroites and greeks were trading varies different items during that time.

the translation from the glass, "Drink and you shall live" they would break the glass as a sign of luck.

i found this video on "youtube" . this was on discovery channel. a group of archeologist made a discovery sometimes in the ninties of a unknown city around the fifth cataracts in the sudan. at first they thought it was a temple, but what they discovered was a ancient city, that is about 24 football fields big, and definitely well preserved, and one of the largest amun temple in the sudan. i hope you enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXUwy9y5heY&feature=related

we actually have hausa in sudan as well. i think they migranted to sudan hundreds of years ago to perform the haj in saudi, but later decided to stay in sudan and also eritrea.

no, i won't draw any generalizations of you, afterall i am sudanese, and some people might think the worst of me. however, i did not know nigeria had many tuaregs, but it makes sense, since your country borders niger.

tpia, what ethnic group do you belong to i may ask?

it is like a love song, but without being perverse. however, she won a award for best singer of that year hence the reason for the the gathering.

that is so cool. i feel that all of africa was lived in the nile valley at one. that is the reason why we have so many of these damn monuments. lol. however, the government is providing roads in these areas, and the UAE have invested money and is restoring some of the pyramids and ancient temples in the north to prepare for tourism once the dust is settled in darfur, and the election in the south of the country whether they stay part of sudan or separate and form a new country.

i love it tpia, but sometimes i think that is where the problems starts, however, on the ground level people usually get along, but it is these politicans that cement these differences. i think that is the problem. many northerns like myself feel this way, and some of us even join the spla. that is a political party in southern sudan.

also, the guy is 80 years old. he was born during the time when sudan and egypt was one country until independence from the british, and not many asians venture that far down the nile. he is nubian through and through, he still do sing in the nubian language from time to time.

this guy looks so Asian. Is he mixed?

no, my brother muhammed wardi is not mix, if you look at the other videos, he appearance is very common in sudan and upper egypt, he is straight up nubian from the north born at the egypt boarder. there are many of him in sudan without mixing with so called other races. also many people especially from the horn of africa look also very similar.

i cannot believe that polish created a stamp out of one of our christian bishops, however the polish as well as other europeans dig a great deals of our monuments in sudan and place them in their museums. it is funny in a country that is predominately white they have a blackman from the 10th century on stamp. i find this kind of interesting.
http://joystamps.com/en/stamp/583
http://www.corbisimages.com/images/RW006426.jpg?size=67&uid=6FAFD2A1-F891-4781-9F29-40952804BAC6

here is a short video from you tube i found about christian nubia, however there is a wealth of information about christian nubia on the net. they fought the muslim for over 700 years, until infighting among the nubian elite in sudan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6171YYEhuI

one thing is certain sudanese history is vast and long, and it had many so called different periods
the first period is the "kerma period"
second period "pharaonic or napatan period"
third period "meroitic period"
fourth period "christian period which was between 5th century AD until 12th or 15th century"
lastly "islamic period"
yes, most northern sudanese use to be christian
from my perspective i feel that all africans at one time came from this region, between parts of upper egypt and of course northern sudan. why do i say this? if you look a the sudanese population today, it is extremely diverse. it seems as if every african face on the continent is very well represented there. in northern sudan, you have many of the population that resembles ethiopians, eriteans, and somalis, and some look very ancient egyptian, but you have some people that look like so called west african or bantu, and a few look similar to north african berbers. sudan is extremely diverse indeed. here is a few videos of singers that reflexs the country diversity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoJ7li-7Zwo this is the nubian singer muhammed wardi very popular in sudan, horn africa, and yemen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F3jrHjpjAY this group is one of my favorite and they are from south sudan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4zwqw4C3Rk&feature=related: to me she is like a sudanese versian of shirley temple. lol but her singing is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6fiqtp1te4 music from eastern sudan (kids)beja ethnic group, these people can be also found in upper egypt, and also eritera. yes , sudan is extremely diverse!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3zRoKurbEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkzp0QDwBCc :this group sing about african unity.

wasnt Sudan considered part of Libya at one time? Some of those temples look like the ones found there (in Libya)

no, sudan was never part of libya. only relationship we had with libya is probably land area, and trade with the two nations in the past. however, the only nations northern sudan had with common with is egypt and possibly ethiopia. The history of sudan and egypt was very interwine throughout the millenniums. sometimes it is hard to tell which pharaohs is sudanese or egyptian. take for instance the old kingdom pharaoh huni the father of the pharaoh who built the great pyramid of giza khufu. scholars are still debating whether the pharaoh huni is actually egyptian or cushite from the bust of this picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huni

is this pharaohs egyptian or ethnic cushite, it is hard to tell. one thing is certain that the people that live in parts of upper egypt from luxor and aswan are indeed cushite or sudanese in origin. however, during ancient times nubians were broken up into many different tribes. the nubians that live in the egyptian side of the border was mostly part of egypt, however the people that live beyond the 2 cataracts were part of the many different ethnicity of the sudan.

this monument is in ethiopia. it is called the gondar castle.
http://images.travelpod.com/users/downtocl/clara-africa06.1153923300.dsc01214.jpg