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Sad isn't it, the way we allow our valuable things to be violated, discarded and then forgotten.



the sad thing beneli, many africans don't know about timbuktu. they brought into the idea mainly coming from europe that africans culture is only oral and relegated to singing and tribal dancing. needless to say, from their perspective the only african cultures that have merit is nile valley area or sometimes ethiopia, if they consider those countries as black. however, from the perspective of westerners and some africans alike, sub saharan africa is devoid of any past intellectual culture, but relegated to dancing, singing, primitive tribalism and superstitions. that is the image most outsiders have toward sub saharan africa.

To ezeagu: Somali/Ethiopian clusters", "Negroid features", "mixed types", I would think you people were eyeing goats to be bought in a market.

i will reserve my comments that many northern sudanese and egyptians say about yours, because at the end of the day i know it is utter ignorance similar to your statement which is utter ignorance. interesting, "eyeing goats to be brought in the market" are you confusing us with your local fulan and tuaregs in your far north. i am sorry to disappoint you we are different people. however, i met some najia fulan in egypt great people, and he always had something positive to say about each ethnicity in najia. he represented your country well, and your "mix types" statement, do you have a inferiority complex or something. indeed, i really don't understand your meaning?

this is news that every african should know. i am surprise no one have commented on this trend!

ezeagu:Are you people talking about animals or human beings?


ezeagu what do you mean by that statement?

this is important, and i hope everyone watch this, i found this on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Cl5qD1IiY

same church in ethiopia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bet_Giyorgis_church_Lalibela_01.jpg

this is a rock hewn church of "saint george" this complex was builted around the 12th or 13th century AD.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Bete_Giyorgis_Lalibela_Ethiopia.jpg

fallen obelisk in ethiopia next to the obelisk of ethiopia king ezana.
http://www.sacredsites.com/africa/ethiopia/images/toppled-axumite-obelisk-500.jpg

axumite tomb, it was probably builted around the 5th century AD. In northern ethiopia
http://tadias.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/axum_tomb.jpg

ethiopia Axum Cathedral Fresco of the ethiopia Madonna and child.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Ethiopia-Axum_Cathedral-fresco-Black_Madonna.JPG

King Ezana Stele in Aksum Ethiopia probably builted around the 4 or early AD, this is the period in ethiopia when they converted to christianity before most european countries, the only countries they became majority christian during that time was probably, armenia, greece, maybe egypt and rome. however, i think egypt and ethiopia became christian nearly the same time, and i understand nubia later followed during the 5th century.

http://images.travelpod.com/users/villu/ethiopia_2006.1166040600.king_ezanaxs_stele.jpg

this is only proof of the actually meaning of the name candace which is a title. http://www.behindthename.com/name/candace

it is actually in the book of acts in the christian bible.

to tpia:Q[b]uote from: ababda on October 27, 2009, 08:36 AM
this is one of my favorites above all else even though many people will consider this simple glassware. however, from my perspective this drinking glass is not only beautiful and it is my favorite color darkblue, but it is timeless. it looks very modern.
this glass is dated during the late meroitic period in around 250-300 AD, this was found in one of the pyramids in meroe. some of the glasses is now house at the museum in khartoum in sudan and university of pisa in italy.

http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=ICN/ICN002/F0020609.jpg : simple but it is my favorite, because the glassware is timeless. the writing of the glassware is actually greek, which means the meroites and greeks were trading varies different items during that time.

the translation from the glass, "Drink and you shall live" they would break the glass as a sign of luck.this is interesting because breaking glass is actually a Jewish custom, I think. Is it originally middle eastern?
The cup reminds me of ancient Greek glassware btw[/b].ababha: sorry i did not answer this question weeks ago, however i don't know where that custom come from because it is not done today in the nile valley, but that does not means it was not done in the past. however, there have been a good deal of cultural exchange between the ancient meroites and the mediterranean world. for example take the simple name as candace. do you know the name candace was actually a title for nubian or meroitic queens. the name is actually a title similar to pharaoh or caesar, but only for queens. however, the real pronunicaton is kdke, which means queen mother. many african societies share this queen mother concept especially the ashantis and some mande peoples in west africa

behold Sungbo Eredo in western nigeria

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://nigerianwiki.com/images/thumb/7/78/Sungbo_eredo.jpg/450px-Sungbo_eredo.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nigerianwiki.com/wiki/Sungbo_Eredo&usg=__TifSljpPJDENY2O4OU1QgD69dXg=&h=301&w=450&sz=30&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=i0ZvjEFHPKSYKM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dthe%2Beredo%2Bearth%2Bwall%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1R2ADFA_enUS338%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

this is a ram head amulet. the amulet was worn by the pharaohs that rule a united Nubia/Cush and Egypt during the so called 25th dynasty.

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_1989.281.98.jpg

this amulet is housed in one of the museums in the states. they give you a brief history of the amulet.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_1989.281.98.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/04/afs/ho_1989.281.98.htm&usg=__oXb-uLEcYqwsK-r-OtBcHJxQmxI=&h=384&w=300&sz=40&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=yzafv2XtFKIkxM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnubian%2Bram%2Bhead%2Bamulet%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1R2ADFA_enUS338%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

this is a ram head amulet. the amulet was worn by the pharaohs that rule a united Nubia/Cush and Egypt during the so called 25th dynasty.

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_1989.281.98.jpg

ruined church of Qasr Ibrim in lower nubia. it was builted around the 6th century AD. however new finding suggest that the church was builted over a ancient temple dedicated to the goddess isis and the nubian pharaoh that is mentioned in the old testament in the bible taharka.

http://www.dignubia.org/maps/timeline/img/c0640-ruined-christian-church.jpg

sorry mask of malakaye
http://wysinger.homestead.com/files/e6491cr.jpg

this is a death mask found at the pyramid complex in northern sudan

http://www.ancientsudan.org/images/01_intro_face.j

mummie of a nubian queen

http://www.ancientsudan.org/images/03_burials_nubian_mummy.jpg

mask of malakaye: found in the pyramids most likely between the 9th or 6th century BC

i don't know that this have any significance to najia igbos, but here is web site i found.

http://www.ancientsudan.org/articles_jewish_elephantine.html

question. where do the igbos believe that they are originally from? i talked to some hausas, they believe that they originally started of from the nile valley and later migranted to niger and what is now northern nigeria. what do the igbos believe?

this is a web page highlighting their expedition in northern sudan. the main focus here is the so called roman bath of meroe.

here is the web page.http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dainst.org/medien/de/meroe_01k.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dainst.org/index_3536d2afbb1f14a124520017f0000011_en.html&usg=__ip6iU21tcdyjbhJGU8LOGLprzaE=&h=133&w=200&sz=11&hl=en&start=27&um=1&tbnid=UV-UBX7JoAAakM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmeroitic%2Broman%2Bbath%2Bin%2Bnorthern%2Bsudan%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1W1ADFA_en%26sa%3DN%26start%3D18%26um%3D

the ruins of musawarrat es sufra complex

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2210/3746624794_baf2656059.jpg
http://wysinger.homestead.com/files/114952868-L.jpg
http://nubie-international.fr/photos/401020andreferrand038.jpg
http://www.ancientsudan.org/meroe_gallery/images/10_gall_13.jpg

this photo was taken by a tourist in northern sudan of the burial site of the pharaoh tanwetamani and his mother qalhata. the painting is written in egyptian hieroglyphics and it goes into details of the burial customs and religious beliefs during that time. the site is called el kurru.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3313/3496222631_4698201f11.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/74089637%40N00/3496222631&usg=__aVmiTdCnSVyYxlueqaEr82Cy_kI=&h=500&w=333&sz=179&hl=en&start=105&um=1&tbnid=eEB7TPX2YrqVUM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=87&prev=/images%3Fq%3Del%2Bkurru%2Bsudan%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1R2ADFA_enUS338%26sa%3DN%26start%3D90%26um%3D1

madlady[b]:@ababda thank you for this wonderful thread, i have been following it with great interest.[/b]

thank you madlady, and i hope you are enjoying it.

i would like to study this pyramid in eastern nigeria.

This is the only reliable source I can find and its just a tiny paragraph

that was interesting ezeagu, and yes that was indeed a tiny paragraph to say the least. there should be further study for your country heritage. in sudan, we have archeologist all over the world flooding our country monuments while at the same time discovering different pyramids or old cities. people should be doing the same in nigeria.

@Beaf, that's truly BEAUTIFUL,what site is it on

indeed, that is absolutely beautiful.

i would like to further investigate the igbo pyramids. can anyhow refer me to any scientific periodicals. i wonder does it has anything in common with the pyramids of sudan and egypt.

to be technically honest, cultually, i think there is no cultural affinity with the people of caanan and the cushites.

morpheus24:

i totally agree with you reeducation is definitely needed. especially among my people in northern sudan.