abdul4hire: This is simple if you have doubts about the true position of islam, pls google the rulings giving by the most prominent islamic body in saudi. known as the permanent committee (lajna daima in arabic). It is saddled with the responsiblity of giving all sharia rulings in saudi.

If u cant trust what they say about the true position of islam then i wonder who u can trust as a christain.

abdul4hire: Infact the late grand mufti of saudiarabia sheikh binbaz wrote a private letter to osama binladen, rebuking his ways and ideology and his likes and osama binladen indeed responded with scorn. It is clearly documented in a book (cant remember the name but it went like 'brothers of the devil) referring to the khawarij( people with this ideology).

Simply google these facts. And please note for the fact that people tarnish the image of Islam through violence, this isnt sufficient for you to reject faith when u hv intellect, senses and access to knowledge such as the web.

abdul4hire:

I say one of the greatest injustice is taken something out of context, with regards to the Quran this had led many astray....so we say as i said earlier we hav to luk back at how the prophet himself implemented Jihad.

when he was to perform the pilgrimage to makkah with his followers before its conquest, he was prevented and sent back by the pagans, due to this he had to sign a treaty with them which even involved him taken out his title as a prophet when he was about to sign just to appease the pagans. Even though not being able to perform the hajj that year angered his companions he told them to be patient...this treaty was suppose to last for ten years with the terms largely favouring the pagans. Why didnt he attack them and take over the holy mosque and the kabba? It was only when the pagans failed in their commitments and he had offered several options to them to save the treaty that he marched onto them with his followers.

On getting to makka with his followers the pagans where overwhelmed, so no fight ensued and then he declared
‘Whoever enters the house of Abu Sufyan(someone that had persecuted and killed a lot of the prophets companions)is safe. Whoever locks his door is safe. Whoever enters the mosque is safe.’ The Messenger(sallallahu alaiyhi wassallam) of Allah told his army not to use arms against anyone when they entered Makkah unless they met opposition or resistance. He directed the army not to touch property or possessions belonging to the people of Makkah and nothing should be destroyed . simply google treaty of hudaybiyah or conquest of makkah.

From this we learn
1.if the unbelievers do not prevent the muslims from practising their religion then we maintain our agreements.
2.Only the leader of the muslims can lead/order a jihad.

So we are saying there are verses in the quran that say clearly to attack the unbelievers and a muslim shouldnt sugarcoat, deny it or be apologetic about them but rather he should ask politely that every single person interprets them with the way of the prophet and understanding of his noble companions.

Bélla3: Thank you for making my point. So you agree the quran is nt complete? Hehe

still no one to answer my question!

Akseph: Thanks sir 4 d educative post, i am happy 4 dis write up but sir do remember dat islam in evrywhere it is bin founded it was done by the holy war e.g by mohammed in Mecca, in northern Nigeria by usman dan fodio. So wht do u call dat islamic war against pagans? Also cn u explain surah 9:29

nuorlah:

Nicely written.
On a second thought, the word moderate Muslim doesnt exist. With that we would be having mild.

Words that divide us, we try to avoid as much as possible. Yh! the extremists have a name. But we are just Muslims.

kopite: Sure the poster is not very verse in terms of knowledge of jihad in the islamic context. The above stated definition is the thought of a yoruba or wealthy muslim some where around the world. Like i have stated, in the course of my career, i have been privilaged to work in 4 muslim countries ( malaysia, oman, UAE, and Egypt) and have driven this question hard into the hearts of strong and deep muslim friends from these countries and pakistan, and the reply all remains the same, even with various quotes from the koran. Let muslims look deep and ask themselves, what is it that makes us want to attack, revolt and dominate others at the slightest provocation? My muslim friends from the middle east have told me time and time again, that they dont know what makes them to revenge or want to kill people from other religion or conflicting opinion. I love my muslim friends and want and pray for through revelation ( even as many have been recieving) of God their creator, saviour and redeemer. Jihad truely means killing jews, christians and non muslims in general.
please check comments by grand muftis and senior clerics from mid east and yu'll confirm. Jesus is Lord in heaven and earth!!!

Bélla3: i'd really appreciate a quran verse to support this.
PS: hadiths are nt acceptable.