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PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 3:27pm On May 15, 2016
4nobody4every1:
Is up to you whatever you take out of my post, l dont want to derail the thread further, comprehension of my post seems to be a big issue for you, l am done with this, have a nice day....
Ok sir...
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 3:15pm On May 15, 2016
4nobody4every1:
You took the import of my post out of context, l didnt say God should come and build road, provide security, punish rapist, provide pipe borne water etc, my referring to prayers / religious homes was used in a literary manner and it was pun intended, l know God will not come and fix the country, l was indirectly saying that we hide under prayers but yet the country is still on auto reverse, do l believe in God , Capital YES, but do l wait for him to come and fix my building, No, again, if my roof is leaking, l do not need to start going to a shrine, voodoo priest or anywhere for prayers, l will contact the relevant professional to fix the problem and that is what l was saying in my earlier post undecided
No sir, I didn't take out of context sir... Believe on God is personal, I don't believe in loads of stuff but will never mock or castigate people who do, but believe religion is one of the major reason we are going backwards everyday
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 3:12pm On May 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:
I agree with every word written except instead of daddies I use fairies grin
My oga sir.. . Abeg no let people here o
PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op):
darchiplanhomes:
Have not had time to go tru the thread page by page. I will express my observations and appraisal when i go tru page by page.Secondly its personal but i hope there is no friction between you guys and the project financier because the tune of some of your updates suggests that? Also i know about the lecture you have just given. I used the term "highly" to emphasize the importance of that component and the need to employ best practice irrespective of cost. Good to know the machine is available in Enugu and thats what matters. Logistics and cost does not justify the use of hand mixing where machine is available. Try your best bro. God bless.
Their is no friction but your questions suggest incompetence on our own part, that is why my partner have to explain everything things in detail to you. We operate in a simple way but this project has been complicated unnecessarily for us.

Mixing with manually operated mixer doesn't signify best practices, best practices is when you mixed with automated batching plant by weight, where you can control all your variable better. . The volume of concrete and budget available to us suggest we use hand mixing which is quite effective.
PropertiesRe: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by abdulwastecx(m): 11:59am On May 15, 2016
P291:
A cellular raft would have been perfect as the basement can give you a leeway to control underground water and seepage; and the beam serves also as a retaining wall.

But in this case; the grade beam foundation could have worked in order to save cost had it been soil investigation was done to determine the depth at which the soil have a good bearing capacity, having its minimum shear strength, or the beam penetrating into a properly compacted structurall fill.

It is not how high the depth of ground beam above the natural ground level that saves the building as most people thought but the depth at which it penetrates to a compacted structural fill or a competent natural soils. The saving grace for some buildings in part of Lekki was because of the presence of less expansive soils in some of this terrain, so structural loads can 'at least' be supported by this grade beam foundation with a spread footing not the 'so-called' raft.
I am happy a civil engineering is in the house.. . That is what I have been trying to explain. My sketch above is not cellular raft, though it may look like one. a cellular raft will have two layer of slab, the upper layer (not to be confused as DPC will also be reinforced to be part of the foundation. The volume of the basement is stabilizing factor and the basement is not put into use.
A sketch below showing a typical cellular raft.

These are some of the major differences between cellular raft and other raft.
1. The vertical members are structural wall design to resist lateral (horizontal soil pressure) of saturated (wet) soil
2. The void or basement volume is a stabilizing factor
3. Both the lower and upper part of the raft are foundation member.

PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m):
4nobody4every1:
Sorry about that, desperation, poverty, hunger, frustration, depression, hopelessness, unemployment & other anti-social vices has driven so many young lads into crime in Nigeria, so sad that all the past governments from 1979- Shagari presidency till the current leadership have not been able to ameliorate the stagnation in Nigeria. Churches, Mosques, Voodoo and shrine houses everywhere offering prayers for Nigeria and yet the rot continues

l guess the case of Nigeria requires Angels or Aliens from space to come assist to redress the rot in our dear country, in 2016 other countries are planning to explore different planets/ galaxies, UAE government in the middle east is planning to have driver-less cars by 2030 , other Asia giants are taking concrete steps to develop their country but Nigeria is still battling with 4000Mw of electricity, poor infrastructures and billions in Naira been looted and shared by the elites, the masses are suffering like a sheep without a shepherd and the country is on auto reverse like a ship without a captain, when will all this drama end sad angryhuh
God will not build the road, generate the mega watts, provide the pipe borne water, build rail, provide security, punished rapist, criminals etc, human does.

I have never seen God bring someone a Ghana must go full of money, the only thing God does his to accept blame from corrupt politicians, deflect attention from them, use as a tool by which some so called men of God steal and control people.

We need to act, be responsible for our actions and stop looking to sky daddies for answer when we can build everything ourselves like the Chinese or Japanese
PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 10:15am On May 15, 2016
podosci:
Manual mixing is the wrong word, the proper donation is hand mixing as specified by BS 1881 :125 on mixing and sampling of concrete.
There two ways of mixing concrete, preferably by machine or alternatively using a hand tool, in such a manner as to avoid loss of water or other materials ( BS 1881)
In Nigeria like all developing countries, hand mixing which involves turning over the mixture of the concrete materials from one end of the mixing tray or platform to the other is a popular method (James Isiwu AGUWA)
James Isiwu Aguwa of the Federal univeristy of technology gave the compressive strength of handmixed concrete after 28days at 20.28N/mm2 which is quite impressive for a volume based concrete mix. I believe a machine mix based on volumetric mixing would gave a slightly higher concrete comprehensive strength.
The best mixing form certified to give a higher 28days comprehensive strength is mixing by weight which is done by expensive batching plants.
In summary, Machine mix is preferable but in absense of machine mix due to the remote nature of some sites in Nigeria and the logistics involved, handmix is a good alternative under good supervision.
Add to the fact that the budget of all concrete work for the phase of the job was pegged at N90,000. This amount was used for all the concrete work from dpc to first floor level ( columns and lintel, with the formwork pattern where the client refuse to buy all the wood ones, we have to do form and remove to do other areas. Bringing in concrete mixer that will cost about N23,000 to get to site and daily rate of N15,000 for another three days ( because the work took us 4days to execute) that is around ( 24 + 45 = 69k), about 76% of the total budget on machine alone, not to talk of labour and other logistics. manually batch concrete if properly supervised will do the job
PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 8:45am On May 15, 2016
darchiplanhomes:
The site plan was not detailed as in indication of building set backs from fence because there was no survey plan at the time of design.
Good to know that, I taught as much overall good design
PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 10:39pm On May 14, 2016
darchiplanhomes:
Good to know the machine is on site. Hope the machine was used for the columns and lintel? These are structural components and since you are adhering to the structural design in bar bending it will be wise to adhere to the standard mixing method for such structural members. Please how was the concrete for columns mixed? #just caring for my baby(the design)
They were mixed manually.. You can go through the thread for more clarification
PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 9:14pm On May 14, 2016
darchiplanhomes:
Good job engineer Abdulwastecx. I have reserved my comment till this critical time. I designed this project and as such have its interest at heart. Oversite concrete was mixed manually now its time for the first floor slab which is a highly structural component, are you mixing manually?
Nope sir... We are bringing in a concrete mixer. We already have that on site, it came late today so we prospone the work to on Monday
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 8:04pm On May 14, 2016
agarawu23:
oga, i hear u. What else should I say when I am not an engineer/a builder? But a guy who has experienced big structural building from foundation to finishing should have something to say too smiley
Mr agarawu23 has a very valid point, we valued paper too much in this country. I have learned a great deal from these '' baba Abdul '' he was my first teacher. These men are extremely good at what they do
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 5:34pm On May 14, 2016
EgunMogaji:
I'll just tell you the design that I have for my garage apartment.

The ceiling is 12 coaches high which is about 12 feet, that's pretty high. I'm not using POP so I'll loose very minimal height for the actual finished ceiling. Heat trap will not be an issue because there will be a solar powered whole house fan that vents directly into the attic. There will be two gable vents on either side of the attic wall where the hot air should naturally escape.

I'm also using casement windows that have projections at the top. These type of window will allow me to at least crack open the projected windows during inclement weather or at night. That in conjunction with the whole house fan will make sure that air is moved throughout the house.

You should go for whatever design, style that floats your boat. It's your house and you won't be asking anybody to finance it. If you get a good Architect and a builder that doesn't think he knows what you need more than you then you'll be okay.

Costwise, windows design is the same price, whole house fan is maybe $150 and gable vents can be constructed by local artisan. I talked to my local welder and he thinks he can make the whole house fan. My stuff might look expensive but they really aren't. I just have a knack to thinking outside of the box, and I take my sweet time.
Lol at that your Windows installer...using plumb in that direction, he is not going to get anything like that.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 4:43pm On May 14, 2016
agarawu23:
oga, do u see any extra holes that pillars will sit on in the picture? We still need to follow the thread and see if that's the first batch digging cos digging such for a 5 bedroom duplex is void to 'me' .
You just have to wait for the man to finish
PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 3:42pm On May 14, 2016
Summary of slab work: activities to be carried out here are divided into
1. Formwork
2. Iron bending work
3. Plumbing work (waste pipe)
4. Electrical conduit pipes.
5. Casting of slab and beam.

Formwork: The Formwork or decking of the house was carried out by 6 able men for a period of one week. The materials used include the following.
1. 530 planks ( 25mm x 300mm x 3300mm)
2. 400 soft runner wood ( 50mm x 100mm x 3300mm)
3. 600 short bamboo ( height of 3600mm).
4. 4bags of 2'',3'' and 4'' nail.

NOTE: all these materials were supplied by the client through his relatives.
We also have left over of 2 x 4 wood which will be put into use in future.
We have left over bamboo which will used for external scaffold

Duration of job : one week.
Budget ( Workmanship for the carpentry work) = N220,000
Note : before the commencement of job we agreed on N270,000 but the owner representative removed N50,000 after much deliberation and complain about going over budget.
PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 3:14pm On May 14, 2016
Check out the slab details and compare it with the iron work

PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 3:05pm On May 14, 2016
Finally, we are ready for casting.

PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 8:06am On May 14, 2016
That child is my electrician's son.... I had querel him about bringing him the deck already, I will remove the pics as soon as possible
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m):
agarawu23:
lekki homes that collapsed recently were built by the so called civil engineers who spent years in university learning about building construction.

Company's that are giving my boss contract know the road to get civil engineers but they dont look at their side. (He has his records). The building I showed is just "one" of his job i fully work with. He has a lot of on going jobs even bigger than those I upload here and in neighbooring countries. NO CIVIL ENGINEER can rubbish him when it comes to construction even if they have PhD.

Experience is the best teacher sir
Leki homes structural collapsed is a case of negligence or lack of proper engineering judgements.

Let me give you an example. An engineer may design a house using an average wind speed of 45m/s, this speed may be arrived at by looking at ten years wind behavior of the area where the building is to be located. After the completion of the house, suppose an unusual wind of 150m/s was now experienced due to unusual natural phenomenon. Would you blame the engineer for the resulting structural collapsed?

Engineers are not magicians but are people equipped with enough mathematics to make guess based on probability of something happening.

I don't know your boss but without basic knowledge of structural design, analysis, materials science, concrete technology, Geotechnics, hydraulics, soil mechanics etc... He is just an experienced artisan doing whatever design giving to him the case may be.

As for the building you uploaded above, I don't see anything special about it. As a matter of fact if it is in Tunisia, the design will be done by a competent consultancy film and not your boss. The construction work can be carried out by any artisans under proper supervision.

I was an artisan some years back, I was a carpenter, my father is a carpenter, I have been doing carpentry all my adult days. Then I used to think that we don't need engineer, building technologist or architect to do our job but the truth is we need them for complex job.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:31am On May 14, 2016
EgunMogaji:
The highlighted confuses me. Are you missing a specific word?

I can now understand why quality of finished houses is rather low in Nigeria.
Yes sir 'NOT'
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m):
agarawu23:
thats why i will go with baba mufu grin who grammar and certificate epp? EXPERIENCE AND DAILY PRACTICE is the key to hand work not only what u read or learn. physical practical is the main deal in construction.

there is one man called "jamajama" in an area i live then, you dont need a plan before he will give u what u want. just describe how u want it on the day of construction and this man will give u the best with his tape rule and IQ. he is a bloody illiterate.
Building construction/civil engineering works like a pyramid. You need each member of these pyramid to deliver a good job.

we have the so called professionals, such as architect, civil engineer, quantity surveyor etc ( with minimum of 5 years university education). These people are trained to solve problem from conceptual stage, they need lots of theoretical knowledge than practical know how. It is a fact that they need about 75% theory to 25% practical.
for building construction, they conceive the design (the architect), they make it work by using mathematics, economics and understanding of materials properties (civil eng) that "your baba lati" cannot use, they estimate the cost of construction (QS).

Next in line are technicians' these are well trained personnel with 50/50% knowledge in theory and practical. they are trained to know enough in other to translate professionals designs into reality. The theory they know is for them to be able to understand professionals design and the practical they know is to be able to explain these design to the artisans'. A civil engineer, architect, surveyor with HND or OND are technicians.

We have the artisans; These are the people that do the actual work, these are the mason, brick layer, carpenters, painter, roofer, plumber, electricians etc. These men work based on instruction passed down by the technicians, they are employed not to think or design but to perform task specify by those above. they need all the practical of this world and little theory to understand technical drawings and language.

Note: there are overlaps due to several years of working an artisan may become a technicians, but it is very unlikely for either artisan or technician to become a professional without more formal education.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:08pm On May 13, 2016
agarawu23:
someone like Me no even need engineer unless I am not around or I am in money and busy to monitor it myself.
may be you don't know the work of an engineer

My Oga go even sack me if him hear say I put engineer for my site cos he will ask what I learned with over 4years working in his company.

My boss is a bloody illiterate but he is an expert in construction and a bloody millionaire. He has built different buildings here in tunisia. He will rubbish you and the crap u claimed you studied in university about building construction grin


Your bloody illiterate boss may be know how to build (due to experience ) but know jack about civil engineering and cannot rubbish even an undergraduate civil engineering ( structural option) both in analysis/design and execution civil engineering work

I mixed all the cement used in building this house below with an electric mixing machine. Even if I don't build, I still go up to see things whenever I am free.

Its a project since 2012 and the cement used in the block setting and plastering were mixed and controlled by me.

0ver 150 units of 2$3 bedroom flat with underground parking for 85 cars

Incase you need my service at home grin. I operate an electrical mixing machine good, drive a bobcat (steel loading machine) perfect and i operate a crane good too.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 1:59am On May 13, 2016
mavverick:
Oga

Take it easy on me, I was only reading out what i found in a textbook. grin
Lets assume the terrain is Lekki, loose soil, swampy land
Also, the piles dont have to be that deep though, I would have thought. You are right to also say that they would need to be brazed or chained together to maintain strength.

I would still be interested in seeing the figures if you can cost it out roughly please.

Thanks.
Oga I no fit na lol... I will get back to you on Whatsapp sir
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 1:58am On May 13, 2016
mavverick:
Oga

Take it easy on me, I was only reading out what i found in a textbook. grin
Lets assume the terrain is Lekki, loose soil, swampy land
Also, the piles dont have to be that deep though, I would have thought. You are right to also say that they would need to be brazed or chained together to maintain strength.

I would still be interested in seeing the figures if you can cost it out roughly please.

Thanks.

Oga I no fit na lol... I will get back to you on Whatsapp sir
PropertiesRe: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by abdulwastecx(m): 1:48am On May 13, 2016
Qc1:
Every time I think I've solved the water problem, it keeps getting back. And brabus really messed me up with this one, he saw the other houses in the neighborhood and yet came up his? Anyway, all I need is a solution. The house seems to have stop sinking just before the roofing reinforcement. However, I now have water on my floors coming out just under the DPC to the surface. I've been told that it's because brabus failed to add just one more coach in height of the raft that's causing the problem. So far, we've raised the level of the DPC a little higher but I still need a permanent fix.
I am really sorry for what you are going through on this project. Getting a permanent solution is the best thing to do sir. I don't think insufficient foundation height (failure to add one more coach to the beam) is responsible for this problem.

I will like to see more current pictures of the site to some reserch on some of the ways in which the problem can be solved
PropertiesRe: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by abdulwastecx(m):
semitunde:
Nice. Been a while I discussed construction/structural technicalities. Also, its been a while I made the post you responded to and can't remember the whole story but let's discuss based on your reply.

I don't understand the bolded.

I also don't get what you mean by "beam on grade foundation". I may be wrong but I'm not sure there's anything like beam on grade foundation. There's "grade beam" which is a component of mostly deep foundations like pile foundation.

A grade beam doesn't transmit loads directly to the ground. It transmits to the pile caps or piers as the case my be. It should withstand bending moment and hence the beam has some height. Sometimes as high as a raft beam. So unless the client has some piles there, those may not be grade beams.

I understand that in construction nothing is cast in stone and you can modify solutions to fit problems. But the solutions have to be cost effective. A grade beam in this case may not be cost effective (if it is at all effective).

Cancel "grade foundation", what kind of foundation do you again think is there?

The closest to what you might be talking about in terms of withstanding load pressures and load bearing walls is the use of is "spread footing". A shallow foundation system like the op should use a spread footing while a deep foundation should use a grade beam.

The height of the beam (as I can remember, I've not checked) looked more like for a raft like foundation. A spread footing would have sufficed. More cost effective if anything else.

As for the presence of water, this can affect the bearing capacity of the soil depending on the type that is there. If the channel can be diverted fine, since the building had already been constructed.

What do you say?
You are right it can also be called grade beam and it can also be a component of deeper foundation ( pier and beam foundation) but can also stand alone, it can sit directly over loose soil or dry soil in a building construction.
This type of foundation is similar to wide strip foundation but the difference is that this foundation consist of heavy and well reinforced concrete deep beam that are designed to minimize deflection instead of transferring loads directly to the ground below.
This type of foundation is suitable for uniformly distributed load ( load bearing wall ) than point load (load from columns/pillars).

I still stand by my earlier assertion that the foundation is not a raft foundation. raft foundation is made up of a slab that must have contact to the soil whose bearing capacity and other soil properties is used for the design, it is not founded on filled soil and mustn't be confused with dpc.

raft foundation is design like isolated pad footings. A raft is use when individual pad will overlap due to low bearing capacity or high load from the columns of the framed structure.
Raft can be classify as : inverted flat slab raft and slab beam raft.

Flat slab raft is founded at a bearing capacity below the ground level at a depth with sufficient soil properties. this foundation is like an inverted flat slab with the contact area between the column and the slab (foundation) is reinforced against punching shear. this foundation thickness may range from 300mm to 600mm depending on the soil properties and load coming from the super structures.

slab - beam raft foundation can be further divided into up stand or down stand beam-slab foundation. in this type of raft foundation, the beams are introduce to reduce the shear stress from the column, the slab are design with contact pressure from the soil acting on the slab. The slab is design liken normal solid slab but up side down. The load from this slab are then transferred to the beam (like normal slab load on beam in normal suspended floor). The down stand beam is advantageous in area where basement is required while up stand beam is advantageous where only utilities is concealed underground. The major advantage of up stand BEAM-SLAB RAFT over down stand BEAM-SLAB RAFT is uniform settlement.

Note: ALL RAFT FOUNDATION COMES WITH A BASEMENT
ALL RAFT SLAB ARE FOUNDED BELOW THE NATURAL GROUND LEVEL

PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 12:15am On May 13, 2016
n3xt:
The building in question was 1m higher than the natural ground level at completion of the DPC that we had to use planks to climb into the building. I can remember the first day the wife of the client visited she cannot enter into the building and the client had to back her on the platform provided.

What ate up the foundation? Uncontrolled water dammed up on the land.
The height of the foundation is adequate. The major problem is settlement which result from water entering the foundation. The solution now is how to divert water away from at least 3m away from the foundation perimeter
PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 11:21pm On May 12, 2016
We rounded up the reinforcement work today. Tomorrow, we will go round to check and make sure that all bar are bend in accordance to the structural design

PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 11:16pm On May 12, 2016
We are rounding up the slab work

PropertiesRe: Construction Of Six Bedroom Duplex At Enugu by abdulwastecx(op): 11:10pm On May 12, 2016
More slab reinforcement updates

PropertiesRe: Harney Project Renovation Work Of A Nairalanders Massive Family House by abdulwastecx(op): 11:26am On May 12, 2016
Empiree:
which of the Stone Coated tiles, looks like there are two types ?. can post a picture
There are different type... The choice is yours. Looks to the type we use for this building
PropertiesRe: Harney Project Renovation Work Of A Nairalanders Massive Family House by abdulwastecx(op): 11:24am On May 12, 2016
Empiree:
ok. now i wanted to use it for mine and my brother made inquiries but he was told it's not "advisable" bcus of putting them together. Doesn't that suggest they don't know how?
Yes, they may not have the know how. Installation is not that straight forward you need people with know how to do the installation. Luckily, I have the know how
PropertiesRe: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by abdulwastecx(m): 11:23am On May 12, 2016
semitunde:
Hmmm. I hope you're wrong about not doing the slab initially. When was the slab finally done? After superstructure block wall? To what stage?

Many don't realise, for a raft foundation to be effective, the slab has to be there. In a raft, technically the slab carries the weight of the building. The raft beams only keep the soil under the building within the raft area. It may be a little confusing, but if the slab isn't there the foundation is as good as a strip foundation.

Ive looked at the pix well now. I also modified my comment above. Pls read everything again as I just added comments here abs there.

Good luck bro, and well done so far.
The problem is this type of foundation is not a raft foundation. It is more like beam on grade foundation but we always confused it with raft in this part of the world. The construction techniques and reinforcement pattern of this type foundation is quit different.

All raft foundation must have the beam and slab monolithically cast together and the slab is designed to have contact with the soil with reasonable bearing capacity to support the building , hence excavation must be done to a suitable soil specify by soil investigation. These raft may be only slab (an inverted flat slab) or with beams to reduce punching shear of columns (up stand or down stand beams). That is the major reason why all raft foundation comes with basement.

The type of foundation use for this structure is beam on grade foundation. The settlement problem results from the uniform settlement of expansive clay and not from bearing capacity failure. If water can be avoided along the foundation area then the building will stand

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