₦airaland Forum

privaldo:
Here's a respected Northerner trying to oppose a Southern Presidency:

Respected northerners my ass. This dude here is an epitome of tribalism and religious bigot. If you don't know him ask people that do.

No one gives a Bleep about him or his opinions.

megacontrol:
corrected to read 5 units of 4bedroom terrace duplex (not 4 units incorrectly stated before)
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Hello builders/engineers/developers,

How much will you estimate to completely deliver (build & finish) a block of 5units of 4bedroom terrace?
- This will be the typical developer standard which is common in lekki, nothing extra.
- Location is 2nd Toll gate (Chevron) axis in Lekki.
- Raft foundation
- 5 x 4 bedroom terrace on two floors (ground floor + top floor only)

I have received a JV proposal and need this number to work out an equitable sharing ratio for fair negotiation, otherwise will consider doing the build.

Thanks

cc: saydfact, n3xt, rotech77, abdulwastecx, raymondFirstborn, KolaShangOne, spyder880, segcymoore, QSFemi etc.

125m at 25m per units will do

TecM0:





He is right and also wrong


Offshore deep sea Oil rigs belongs to Nigeria, because it's how wide Nigeria territory is that makes Nigerian water ways extend deep into the sea, according to UN charter


Onshore Oil rigs, Marginal oil rigs belongs exclusively to oil producing Community whose land the oil rig is

Using the principle of Nigerian waterways and International water ways , North owns no Oil , Federal Government does, Northern State shouldn't earn from Oil allocation



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You re being clever by half. The offshore oil belongs to the territories that borders the see. If Nigeria disintegrates today, all the oil in the Niger delta belongs to the piece of land or country that encloses that stretch of the sea.

In practicality, the so called north have no stake in even 1% of Nigeria offshore oil.

chocho28:
Is this accurate? I have no idea on this kind of stuff

Yea

n3xt:
Respect to all the structural engineers in the house. You're the reason the world go round!

That period of waiting taught me a lot. I understand that film-faced plywood is better than timber if you want your concrete to achieve maximum strength.

You are absolutely right!

A learning human is a living human, we live to continuously learn and improve on ourselves.

n3xt:
That’s the big difference between using an engineer and using people who really know their job.

In one of the pictures I shared recently, we wanted to introduce 3 columns to provide support for a newly introduced slab.

We had to stop the project and waited almost six months for the structural engineer to come with a new structural drawing.

We eventually ended up adding just one column.

The structural engineer said “I’m doing my job. It wouldn’t be necessary if I wasn’t informed.”

When I'm around my friend?
You wouldn't have waited for that long if you get in touch. Just playing pranks.

It's good to place emphasis on structural integrity and general wellbeing of the building.

n3xt:
No ma. I actually used C35 Concrete Grade (1:1.5:2.5 Cement/Sand/Aggregate)

Beam Depth: 500mm

From experience bro, any concrete grade C30 will required one to carried out a mix design to arrived at mix proportioning. In a simple man language, one will need to control the aggregate size, water to cement ratio and possible use a pozzolan such as water retardants, superplasticizers etc.

micgray100:
As a structural Engineer, any type of joint used in design is good and well calculated for.. Using gusset plate or welding or bolt and nut are all good ways to connect structural members.. the design is what matters... Some are designed to be movable or rigid.. it all depends on the Engineers design... so, saying using gusset plate is the best form of joining members isn't a good structural advice because gusset plate are still welded to members...

There are connections you can't do without using a gusset plate. For example, building a truss with angles required the use of gusset plate. Brazing a columns, beams and other structural members with angles also required the use of gusset plate.

lastpage:
You are completely mistaken Sir!

If there is any Engineer l trust most on Nairaland, number one, numero-uno, one l have recommended openly without reservation to others, one l can say "take this #20M Cash, a Drawing, point to my land and say "call me if you need more money", it is abdulwastexc and l am not saying this to massagge his ego.

Apart from being extremely HONEST and TRUTH FUL, he is sound, knows his stuff, analytical, scientific, factual, empirical and he has been around for a long time!
If still in doubt, ask the gurus and elders in the house, from the Gurus of Building, Contracting, to Elder Clientelle.

If Abdulwastexc says a foundation is sound, l dont know of any of the old hands on this thread, hat will say otherwise.
That is how much confidence we all repose in his ability, as an Engineer and Builder.

Elders, do you agree or disagree?

Thank you sir '.......' I always give my best in all the opportunities I get. I believe good work speaks for itself and I'm glad to see respectable members of this platform appreciate my handwork.

amanikondo:
I won't blame you. You know you are new here. Just keep quiet.

Maybe you are mistaken bro!

Check my profile, I have been here long enough to know.

If you have personal scores to settle with Brabus that is your own problem. Please don't drag me into it.

amanikondo:
You better check the building is not sinking. IF this was built by the Old Brabus that I know.

This one I'm seeing here is standing well!

BrabusNG:
Yes. Foundation to Roof.


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The carcass of the below was done 4 years ago for N15.5m excluding roof.

It’s 4 unit terrace building.

Nice building bro...the design is simple but beautiful!

Pascal2016:
I need advice from expert in the house pls.
I want to build a two deck (2 storey) and my Engr said we are going to use the this foundation type I uploaded in this picture.
Pls should I tell him to go on?
I have not seen where people dug foundation for pillars only, chained it and casted DPC and followed up the block formation.
Is this really going to carry the the two storey building?

The foundation type is good and if properly designed it will carry the building without problem.

This type of foundation is called Isolated pad footings with plinth/ground beams.

Instead of the pad and strip, the strip footings is ommited and the pad is designed to carry the ground floor block walls. In India, China and some western countries this type of foundation is popular.

In most of our building the strip footings that is associated with the isolated or combined pad base only carry the ground floor partitions walls while the upper floors (be it, one, two or multiple floors) are carried by the reinforced pad base but in this type of foundation, the isolated pad base carries all the load from ground floor to roof level.

This type of foundation is better for me since it gives better restructuring rigidity but it lends to more reinforcement, firework and requires more precision.

Finally, I think you have nothing to worry about if the engineers knows his job well.

omanzo02:
We still have those boards at work......I find them very useful if i want to spread installation or circuit drawings......seeing what those guy used before and after all the world wars to advance technology gives me chills what must be going on in their heads.

It was hell bro... I have to take a course in steel detailing and workshop drawings. It was a real nightmare. Thanks to revit structures, prota and others

Abolarin91:
Pls shed more light to it

You see my friend, that type of foundation is called downstand beam-raft foundation but a special kind where the raft is built on stabilized soil.

For that reason, the action of the foundation work where the slab must have a direct contact with the sand fill (which must be compacted properly and CBR test carried out to make sure that the bearing capacity of the soil can safely carry the foundation.

When the void inside the foundation is left unfilled and decked like he did above, then you are not going to have any action and the foundation will fail by settlement.

n3xt:
Your foundation design determines which one to go for.

Pic 1: DPM
Pic 2: Damp Proof Course
Pic 3: Suspended Slab
Pic 4: Damp Proof Course

Never build a raft foundation like the last two pictures below.

People fail to realise that the slab in a raft is the main component that transfers the load to the soil below.

twinskenny:
This type of deck is not that common... I want to know if it’s more expensive to do or the technical how?

Saw it at a client site

This type of slab is called rip slab. It is commonly used for open space when the slab has a rib beam spanning only along one way.
In the picture above, they use hollow clay pot but one can also used normal sancrete blocks for the void.

The other type is called waffle or grillage type; this is the type where the rib is spanning both ways.

It is actually cheaper than conventional solid slab when the area of the slab is large (larger bay. For example, to build a slab 4.5m x7m one can easily use a one-way rib slab spanning across a shorter span and use the sancrete block 450 x 225 x 225 as the hollow void ( permanent former) Instead of the more expensive conventional solid slab.

For more; inform contact Eng. Abdulwastecx

n3xt:
The land has already been sandfilled many years before purchase. There were existing blocks (almost 5 years old buildings) on the left and the right side of the development.

Okay, good. Carry on bro!

n3xt:
The second model (2 units) built in 2014.



Designed by Ihebrooke

The question is if you need to raised the building so high, why not just build a perimeter cantilever retaining walls around the mini-estate, then fill the inside walls at a regular interval to achieve a suitable bearing capacity that the one storey building can rest on comfortably?

mufutau55:
Problem is that, some Contractor will give you a lower estimates to attract your business but when construction starts there will be many stories but it will be too late to stop your project. Due deligence is the advise.
Thank you.

Hajji M.

That is why it's better to get a consultant to manage all the technical side of work.
One can still handle the negotiations but things like the archi, structural, M&E and a detail quantity have to be done by expert to give a clear cost and project time frame.

The way to go is to get a consultant that will do all the technical side of work.

IamPatriotic:
I can perfectly relate, when I completed my NYSC in 2008, I had the options of staying at my elder brother's big and spacious apartment in Kubwa, move back to Ikare and continue being a big boy in my mum's store, or join my friend, Abdul (a Muslim) in his one room rented apartment in lugbe. I moved in with Abdul. We lived together happily for 5 years, we did everything together in the small room, whenever it was time for his prayers, I respect paused the TV, until he's done, he did same too anytime I was praying my Christian prayer. On Christmas, we cook and eat together and did same on sallah without fuss.

Bro "Omo Ikare wore"?

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EgunMogaji2:
Excellent.

I’m back full time in Nigeria now since last year. I’m developing a micro estate.

Baba, I go fit offer you consultancy!

I'm at your service.

EgunMogaji2:
Hello Chief, I now need these crew. Are they available for work in Ibadan? It's for a small single story structure.

Baba those guys still dey o.

I'm at even be coming to Abeokuta before the end of the year. I will visit the site when I come.

TheMohican:
So is the West, ethnicity moves the west almost as much as the old Eastern region, of course not to such a great extent as the east however, but if you read where he writer wrote about the omoluabi, you'd see the ethnic undertone in his points, he didn't see the undertone in his own writing.

Infact, ethnicity moves every region in Nigeria, I've lived in Abuja and I've noticed that smaller ethnic groups like igbira often try to blend into the hausa so that they will be more accepted. If ethnicity didn't move the North, then Muslim Yoruba would be greatly accepted, but that isn't exactly the case is it.?

The Egbira you site is a minority that always tries to blend into any majority group they live with. In southwestern states like Ondo and Ekiti, you will see Egbira that has been completely Yorubanized that you wouldn't be able to tell them apart from the indigenous Yoruba same for those in the north.

But the Yoruba are major ethnic groups that are not only Muslim but also Christians, athiest and tradition believers. They also have a divergent interest to the Hausa-Fulani (northern Muslim) politically, economically and socially. So, you whouldn't expect them to accepted into the northern political ideology which Islam is a tool used to propagate.

Okeseni:
Engineer!
Can we talk in camera ?

Yea, when do you want us to talk?

Litmus:
Thank you. I’m also sensing a growing clamour from the poor, which articulates far too closely to envy, which was not a common Nigeria trait, since Nigerians largely admired hard work and admired high achievers. Sadly this envy is growing, probably fuelled by politicians same way they fuelled tribalism for political gains. For the struggling man, few ways are more seductive than the ability to blame alternatives than self for once deficiencies. However, a warning: exploiting class differences as a means of gaining or holding on to power is more incendiary than tribalism.

It is not due to envy but the need to get the country working.

Nigeria can't afford to have unoccupied homes in a country with 17m building shortages per annum. We can't afford to have the working-class people priced out of home built with stolen state fun that is unoccupied.

Most of these homes were built-in high-density area, areas planned for the working classes people. The only reasons why these buildings were not occupied in the first place is because they were built with questionable money and as such their usage doesn't follow the natural economic bases of demand and supply.

Matrimonous:
In order words, young people are partnering with Fashola to locate those beautiful houses they couldn't afford for them to finally occupy them by their own initiative.
What will be the position of the owners of those houses?

Why will the owner build a house that is out of the range of market forces in the first place?

All over the world, houses are built not to tide down money but to be used for economic purpose. It is only because the investment in real estate mostly come from money laundry. People who tied down stolen or ill-gotten money.

gratiaeo:
Unproductive government how many property have they build and completed

I worked in the real estate sector and I will tell you that stolen money is used to build all those unoccupied houses. Taking them back into the market will do the economy and society a whole lot of good.

It is not the responsibility of government to build, It is their responsibility to make policies to control, attract and protects the interest of Nigerians to own and rent properties. Such responsibility already carried out by the ministry.

Chekitaut:
Bros, where u dey?

Baba I dey o

SAMJOSH1:
Oga Abdul, please I need your technical knowledge. I want to ask what is the best order to do these; plastering, installing windows, doors and POP.
Please help!

I normally do it this way
1. Plastering
2. Installation of windows
3. Pop
4. Tiling
5. Door installation.

Note: it depends on the type of doors. For MDF/HDF doors, door installation should come last after Tillings