₦airaland Forum

IkpuMmadu:
Yoruba don't even see Ondo folks are original Yoruba seff ....the core Yoruba are Oyo, Osun and Ogun

In your dream I guess

Unlimitk:
y did u think I was lying?
pls any kwara state person here confirm what I write about kwara
pls any osun person should confirm what I wrote about osun
any oyo person here confirm what I wrote about oyo
any ogun person here confirm what I wrote about ogun
I have no reason to lie

You are not yoruba period.
Yorubas are very tolerant, we all see religion as a personal thing, religion is never consider when the issue of leadership is discussed.

I am an indigenous ondo state boy, I am from the akoko area of the state, despite the fact that ondo is a majority Christian state we still have a substantial Muslim population. Religion is never a problem in Yoruba land

oilPUSSY:
Why are Yoruba from Ekiti, Ondo and Lagos have different character unlike Yoruba from Osun, Oyo?

Why are Yoruba from Osun and Oyo filled with hatred and frustration ?

If a Yoruba man comments on nairaland, I can easily guess his state of origin.

I am from ondo and a Muslim.
Stop spreading propaganda, yorubas are a United group irrespective of our religion, we are yoruba first.

lawani:
OBJ apart we must know what is best for us. Nigeria has failed and Yoruba deserve to be an independent nation amongst peers. An example of Hausa rioters causing havoc is what happened in mile 12 Lagos not too long ago.

The guy you quoted is a typical APC supporter, they always twist the narrative to favour their narrow point of view.

The problem here is not the Hausa or fulani commoners but a system of neglect and feudal system that has left millions of "talakawas" behind in the north, I was born in the North and i know that that what we are seeing with fulani criminality is just the beginning of what to come.

Fulani herdsmen are pure criminals maiming and killing people for money, in the northwest, the local hausa majority are the worst hit but can barely say anything because of the age long brainwashing, as they see the fulani as brothers.

The way Nigeria is been structured will never bring any meaningful development to the yoruba nation, we are better off going our separate ways. If there is any group that need to be clamouring for separation, that group should be the yoruba

BabaAduras:
Do not be deceived. Do not allow yourself to be used as pawns in political game been played by the likes OBJ (corrupt politicians).

Have you truly confirmed those that are maiming and killing are "Hausa Rioters"?

He is right, Nigeriais not. Nation but a conglomerate of different intolerable groups, we have nothing in common with other groups that make up the nation and in this present arrangement we will never developed as a nation.

The Fulani issue is a national issue but we have a chief of staff whose body language is in support of these criminals because they are of the same ethnic group with him. 100% of the kidnappers are fulani normad while majority of their victims in the north west are hausa/fulani farmers, in the middle belt, their victims are minorities farmer they are gradually moving down south.

The Yoruba nation is a nation United with common language, origin and ideas, all the problem plaguing Nigeria will not affect an independent Yoruba nation.

NaMeAboki:
So according to your warped logic the north central is no longer an integral part of the north - go ahead and clap for yourself.
He who has political power controls all the resources - lets see how you can argue against that.

Majority of the core north are as parasitic as your post and way of reasoning, the north can't afford to hold on to power even of they have the population because such greediness will push the south to breakaway from the nation, leaving the north landlocked and poor as her cousins from across the sahel.

NaMeAboki:
I am not surprised that even though many of you are educated, some of you nonetheless exhibit poor level of comprehension; if you had watched the video and listened carefully to Senator Kabiru Gaya you wouldn't have been asking such stupid question as "which actual figures?"

Many of you are pained and delusional about power and ignorantly fall prey to the false narrative of the so called 'born to rule mentality'. Quite on the contrary; if northers had not been magnanimous in sharing of power with the south by accepting the concepts of geopolitical zoning and rotational presidency etc (mere undemocratic gimmicks introduced by southerner to ensure a shift of power to themselves) northerners could have easily held to their majority advantage and always retained power - without the option of sharing with the south.

The North don't have the economic advantage to play such a dangerous game.

The so called majority advantage is highly overrated and includes the so called north central. If the north can hold on to power without the option of sharing it they will do so.

iammo:
Typical unexposed fool. While others see population as a positive resources a redicolously ignorant man thinks its a curse. Anyways like i said before go and read books on UAE development before disgracing your Family and check their debt profile, then come back and argue with better exposure.
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You can barely make a complete taught with all your Typo above, no wonder you are too stupid and ignorant to understand anything about nation-building.

Uncontrolled population explosion is a problem when the majority of those contributing to such increase can barely provide food, shelter, education and all the amenities necessary for them to become a useful member of the society. If you fail to understand this simple fact then you shouldn't be given the attention that you are looking for.

iammo:
You honestly are dull, and i dont mean any insult. Read my comment again and read shiek maktouns book. And learn of the rise of emarati. Till then enjoy your sheer ignorance in the corner of your room

You are too stupid to be taken seriously, I wonder the age and the intellect of most of you here on Nairaland. I don't need to read any book written by any sheikh because I am aware of the dynamism of political and economic structures of the middle eastern country.

The Arab world will most likely be a bigger mess than so many subsaharan countries without natural gas. If you want to make an intelligent comparison you will have look at south Korea and most recently Thailand, these are countries with substantial population and economic reality similar to those of Nigeria in the sixties and seventies but are now fully industrialized nations

iammo:
Before you speak thrash read one of shiek Al Maktoum book my story and understand that UAE and Nigeria produces similar output of barrel per day, everything in dubai is as a result of foriegn investment after UAE indebted themselves to create infrasture and presitigious landmarks.


When i read all the replies have got it don on me why majority would continue to leave poor, we talk too much without valueble action

You are speaking trash, most of you buhariden are only good at spreading propaganda without any outa of truth in them.

To begin with, Qatar is a tiny state with only 2.3m people ( Niger state has bigger population), it is one of the largest producer and exporter of natural gas " Petroleum and natural gas are the cornerstones of Qatar's economy and account for more than 70% of total government revenue, more than 60% of gross domestic product, and roughly 85% of export earnings. Qatar has the world's third largest proven natural gas reserve and is the second-largest exporter of natural gas.

Comaring Qatar, UAE and the likes with Nigeria is insanity.

buhariguy:
you and the useless prof always insult buhari, so how can keyamon ever make sense to idiotic pigs, even on democratic expression of opinion.

What makes him useless? From all ramification is he better than you. Just because you have refused to use your brain doesn't mean others can't use theirs.

I keep saying it, Nigerians are one of the most gullible people on earth, a nation filled with mentally retarded people, people that can't see beyond their nose deserve Buhari.

iammo:
Nigeria Needs Real bold leaders and not mere social commentators. UAE and Qatar didn't develop by the so called opioniated people hiding behind keyboards. We must all get involved or watch ourselves been lead by charlatans while continue to wail without proferring meaningful solution

Its just common sense, but it out of the reach of many

Those Arab state developed not because of any serious thinker or leaders, those nations were merely fortunate to have huge oil reserve and extremely small population.

Comparing Nigeria these tiny oil state shows the flaws in your way of thinking.

Social commentary is one of the ways of nation-building , criticizing the government of the day through social media is an integral part of modern democracy.

BeansAndBread:
This is what I've been saying, I'm even surprised about Ondo. I heard many are becoming Muslims and Muslims who weren't serious before are now, when I was traveling to Lagos, I followed Ekiti I was surprised to see Muslim populated towns there.

What is important is for the Yorubas to continue to live in peace irrespective of their religious beliefs and ideology. Muric is an organization that is ill bent on destroying the love and mutual respect Yoruba have for one another. I am Muslim but have Christians in my extended family and we all blend well without any problem.

BeansAndBread:
When I saw you claiming more Christians than Muslims in Offa and Omu Aran, then you obviously don't know what you're talking about. All parts of Yorubaland has converts to Christianity and no one denies this fact, but Ijebus and Ibadan you stated are majority Muslims despite this. Pentecostal churches are the ones responsible for creating grudges between Yoruba Christians and Muslims and their activities aren't yielding results like 20 years ago. Their influences isn't there anymore as many Yoruba Muslims now know what they're doing, Muslims have began missionary activities and it's yielding great results as many Christians are now embracing Islam. This is a fact!

Muslim are a majority in the southwest even in a state like Ondo where I am from there is a substantial Muslim population.

Yoruba are very liberal people, we are one irrespective of religion, nobody should take muric serious

SheikhMuniru:
So you Know is NOT about Contest, then why talking as if Only Westerners did all what you're using on daily basis...

No one is saying that westerners do all what we are using today, knowledge is continuous and no civilization exist in isolation, every civilization borrowed from the one before it

diablos:
Jonathan wasted our oil resources building schools for those islamic fanatics and illiterates up north with sun baked brains who don't know d value of education. All those almajiris know up north is religion, drugs, dirtiness and violence.

Those so-called illiterate up north are your countrymen as long as we all remain as one country your so-called oil wealth will be shared equally among all the federating units to solve all our problem.

It is the responsibility of the north and south alike to force education down the throats of all section of the country be it south or north because of failure to educate the people we lead to a problem that will affect the country at large

SheikhMuniru:
You mentioned phone, what of other things you're using on daily basis that were firstly invented by Muslims, eg Clock, surgical instruments, etc. What can you say about them

Everything is not about a contest, western education is the engine and brain behind the modern economy, without engineering and technical education we are all going nowhere, this Wahabism way of thinking have no place in our country

captianfreeman:
Educating the almajiris is a very big impossibility. The northern elite will never support any initiative that will make it possible for the almajiris to acquire western education.
It is the official policy since the days of Lugard.

Everything is not just black and white. Many of the elite want to have these children in school but the problem lies with the society which includes the religious leaders and the parent of these children themselves.

Majority of the politicians don't like to support unpopular ideas for their own political interest, the social fabrics of the north have seriously been compromised by irresponsible parenting that always hides under the umbrella of religion to have children that they can't cater for, this is not peculiar to the north because in the south too, so many parents are not responsible but the society down south frown on irresponsibility.

Corruption is not the problem but social reform is what is needed to develop this country. Without birth control, the abolition of early marriage, enforcement of girl child education, empowerment of women in rural areas and regulation of polygamous marriages almajiri issues and all other social problem will continue

adewad13:
For your information they are more enlightened than in the past.

in south south, south east and south west you put a limitation to childbirth which is one of the factors responsible for their dominance. So think wise, stop family planning in your region then maybe the pendulum could swing.

On what basis should southerners sacrifice a better standard of living, high literacy, and higher productivity just to have more voting power?

Higher birthrate without a corresponding advancement in productivity always leads to a fail nation. Nigeria is expanding by almost 3% per years and the economy is only growing by only 1.9% that is a time bomb waiting to explode. I will rather have a smaller family that I can easily fend for, clothe and provide shelter for than to have a bloated family all to satisfy the greed of some political elite.

1960, the population of Nigeria was just 45m, in contrast, Great Britain was about 50m. Today Britain is around 60m and we are 200m. How do we keep up with providing infrastructure, basic amenities for a population that grew with over 150m within half a decade?

We in a serious problem in this country, the only way out is peacefull dissolution into its constituents units

dadark:
he over did it....but he is just tellin you,he is ready to go to hell with the rest of the world....

you seem to dont understand how hard people like him fought for the democracy you have today....

Which role did el rufai play for Nigeria democracy?
Where was el rufai when Atiku made him to head an egency?
Please stop saying things you know nothing about

ismart:
no mind them bro. BTW, I am one of yo fan at the property section bro. Under a different moniker, I was the one who praised ur approach to how u educated that lady who wante to build her house in lekki.

Thanks bro

KolaShangOne:
Standard price should be between 25,000 - 30,000.

I don't think there is a standard price. It depends on the structural designs, things like the section of beams, slab thickness, the diameter of reinforcement, grade of concretes and so many other variables that can only be gotten from a detail structural design

mountmoriah:
First is the installation Problem, if you use unprofessional and bad installers you will have leakages

Second point is the gauge, my advice, use 0.55 gauge for either stepped tiles or metcop because of their corrugating designs


Third, the machines use in corrugating the aluminum, some aluminum company corrugating machines are bad, and they will use it to corrugate for you any way.

Bottom line; if you get 0.70mm guage for unprofessional installers, they will mess up your roofing sheets, it will look rough and leak water, my advice is that don't use 0.45mm for stepped tiles and Metcopo, 0.45mm gauge is only good for long span, metral or normal design, get professional aluminum installers, we charge only just N150 per square meter to one install your either long span, stepped tiles and metcopo, and N170 per square meter for stone coated.

Long span 0.45mm today price N1, 120

Long span 0.55mm today price N1, 570

Stepped Tiles 0.55mm today price N1, 700

Metcopo 0.55mm today price N1, 800


Stone coated (Bond N2, 350)

Stone coated (Shingle N2, 450)

Stone coated (Milano N2, 500)

Are the price listed for the Lagos area?

Igboid:
Ondo people marry Edos and Igbos alot. And some of them even look like they were originally Edo, but became Yorubanized in a distant past, especially Akoko and Ose parts of Ondo.


Most Yorubas can't understand Ondo dialects too.

Oga you are a liar. I am an akoko Ondo indigen and I am a complete Yoruba. I am from Ikare akoko, my language is a dialect of Yoruba understood by the general Yoruba commonwealth.

Yoruba is a conglomerate of different nation with people of different dialect, we have akoko, Oyo (standard yoruba spoken by all), ijebu, okun, ijesha, Ekiti, egha etc.

winterfell007:
Look Deomello, I'm igbo to the core, that doesn't make me tribalist or show hate towards other enthic groups other than mine. I'm only making an objective opinion.

Having typed that, is it not you and fellow 'omoluabis' that normally tout that: 'if Lagos were a country, it would be the fifth biggest economy in Africa' Lagos is much bigger than Kenya and Morocco that completed their metrolines in record time,
Considering the fact that APC has always direct the fate of Lagos since 1999, one would have expected it must gone further (at least Fashola tried his best) it wasn't enough, that your 'geepee' tank of a Governor you all call 'class captain' made a mess of the whole thing considering the fact that he declared the largest budget of 1 trillion naira since the history of Lagos State.
When people of other enthic groups express their displeasure at the way the APC led administration is 'fucking' up in Lagos, they are in their right to do so. Afterall, they're all equal stakeholders, the only their ancestors were not originally from Lagos.

Morocco is a much bigger country than Lagos state, it has a population of 35.7m people, it has a much larger land mass and resources at its disposal and can't be compared to a tiny city like Lagos.

The Lagos state government under the leadership of Asiwaju Tinubu has done much to lay a good foundation for the development of Lagos since 1999. Lagos was a mess before 1999, the Military government did nothing after the capital city was moved to Abuja, states like Kano and all oil producing states get more in revenue from the federal government than Lagos despite most having a smaller population and challenges. Tinubu devises a means to generate revenue through other means to augment whatever coming from the federal government.

Most of you criticizing Tinubu are only doing it out of hatred and envy and not for the betterment of Lagos. Lagos have a good future under the leadership of APC and the omoluabis