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Shollypopz: Thanks . Now where is mbourie, our new Hitler. I find it extremely sick when I see men that use the bible to justify their evil doings. The bible was used to justify slavery, the bible was also used by Adolf Hitler in murdering 11 million people approximately!

mbourie, fake pastor! where are u?? Jesus said u should beat your wife, right?? Talk oo, u must preach today!

Some people will even use the bible to justify homosèxuality.

I hope the "fake woman beating pastor" will stop hiding behind the bible and come and give us an answer.

Oya mr mbourie, I'm waiting for your reply on the bible verses that I've quoted.

You think you are the only one that goes to church?? Bwhahahahaha I laugh in Swahili

Shollypopz: Why are u saying Hallelujah??! I'm only quoting that for abiL. I'm about to destroy the fool that quoted that bible verse. Get outta my way, I'm on fire!

Burn baby burn!!

Shollypopz: abiL, this discussion with D-Explorer is boring. Give it up abeg!! Agree to disagree pls! The truth is no man is ever justified in hitting a woman, except she's a boxer or a professional fighter. E.O.D!

It's getting boring indeed. I'll rest my case.

mbourie: Please can somebody open to the books of Proverbs 18:6-7 and Ecclesiastes 7:26-29? There are two books I personally don't joke with: The Bible and Dictionary. I have followed dis threads rite 4rm the onset; so prefer my 1st comment should start with quoting the bible.

The bible also states:

Psalm 11:5
The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.

Colossians 3:19
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

1 Peter 3:7
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.

mbourie: Please can somebody open to the books of Proverbs 18:6-7 and Ecclesiastes 7:26-29? There are two books I personally don't joke with: The Bible and Dictionary. I have followed dis threads rite 4rm the onset; so prefer my 1st comment should start with quoting the bible.

Why don't you tell us what it says

Shollypopz: Lmao, u are an Olodo!!

So one isn't capable of changing oneself?? What is change?? What is incoherent?? Here is a link to the dictionary meaning. Brah, what d heck are u writing?? LMAO!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/incoherent

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/change

No need for anyone to get bitter, I deal with fact!

Leave him alone o. You know how Nigerians gets excited about "big words" even when they have no idea what it means. Everyone wants to sound intelligent.

hornipipe: . Whatever this means.
Funny lo wo

Owo ni funny

[quote author=D-Explorer]There comes a time when influence becomes so potent and effective enough to bury/silence a will-power. So if she can influence the man to change, my dear, SHE CHANGED THE MAN. Saying he "changed himself" is incoherent.[/quote]No one can change anyone. You can influence, but you can't make a person change. End of!

hornipipe: ki lo funny

E wo lo funny

[quote author=Onila-is-cool]i see they banned you too after our fight

i miss my real account[/quote]I'm glad that you're banned!!

I miss mine as well. It's crap having to create a new username. But now I've got this incase I e-fight with u again

[quote author=D-Explorer]Oh nah! You got that wrong. You don't need to have a history of violence to lose it at the face of an arrogant/aggressive wife/partner. It's natural to display such content and that's why we've got the word "apology". As such i wouldn't defend it when it becomes regular as certain critical but peaceful measure can be potent. The beauty of this exchange is the idea for a new thread it births. I can't help but laugh at your submission: " My comment on this.... Get to know the person inside and out before rushing into a marriage." Maybe we should create a thread on how well do you know your wife/husband? It's funny and indeed very funny that we sure can't get to know our spouse(s) in all. The learning process continues even until death and your resolve at point is practically invalid. Permit me to centre on your folks (though it could be vice-versa. No man can know the "all" of a woman. The "sex scandel" about the Asaba man, Gilda and co., if true, reveals the identify of you people. A woman has a 17years old son and kept it secretive to his husband of 8years.......could there be a dico-word for that? It's simple! We (men) can't know you (women) all and if a woman turns she-devil and once-an-innocent-man lost it, please lay the blame right.

About women loving the hits, that was a bomb-shell attached with a grin. You could decode anyways [/quote]A history of violence isn't solely perpetuating physical violence. A man who has been exposed to violence has a history of violence, such as one who has seen his dad beat his mum etc.



No one can hide who they truly are. Although I agree that you can't really know a person 100%, but dating someone for at least a year will start to give u an idea of who they.
Have you heard of men who kill their wives?.. That didn't start in one day. It mostly starts off with telling her what she can or can't wear, who she can or can't contact. He will take away her self-esteem, family contact, independence and self-worth through his controlling behaviour. Then the verbal abuse, and the physical abuse. Since he has taken away her support group (friends and families), she has no one to turn to. Then everything after that is history mixed with disaster.


Learning process is an ongoing process, but take for example driving. Once u know how to drive, you can never truly forget how to. Same way a man brought up in violence finds it difficult to unlearn those behaviours he has observed and modelled.





To add!! a man should be held responsible for his action. No matter what the provocation is, when u start physically fighting with a woman, YOU are to blame. Not the woman that made fun of your small dîck. Make fun of her yeasty vag, but don't start practicing karate kid the movie on her.

hornipipe: I don't understand/speak yoruba

Hahhaha

cowgurl: @bolded,
Abil, if am a positive influence to my man changing his odd ways, would it be wrong to say I changed him?

It won't be wrong, but you didn't change him. He changed himself. You influence that change.

So you were part of the change in his attitude, but not the reason for it.


You prompt him to change, not made him change.



All we can do is influence people to change for the better whilst praying and hoping that they do. Because you can nag, shout and preach from now until kingdom come, if a man or woman hasn't got it in their mind to change, then a change ain't gonna happen.

hornipipe:

Ki lo funny

[quote author=D-Explorer]Oh yeah, this' the point the woman-factor comes in. I won't be caught adopting sentiment on sensitive matters. These changes you're talking about occurs in marriage and thank goodness, you admitted. We've got cases of nagging wives, rude and aggressive wives that were once "angels" before marriage needless to mention that it started as a process; a gradual one indeed. You can't call a man that got his clean-sheet on violence matters a son-of-a-bîtch because he couldn't rescue himself from the grip of aggression and whatnot displayed by his wife (don't think divorce). We've so many innocent men that got entangle in the web of wife-beating as a result of the regularly wrong/negative deeds of the wife. Maybe i release a bomb-shell......some women loves their chains; some women loves to be beating. [/quote]Most women love to argue (me inclusive), but no woman wants to be beaten. Tell me a name of a woman that likes (not even loves, likes) to be beaten!!

The changes I've mentioned can occur outside and in a marriage. Marriage isn't the fuel for change. An attitude, a willingness and a mind set to change is what is needed for a change... AND the opportunity to be able to make that change.



"Nagging women who were previously Angels". My comment on this.... Get to know the person inside and out before rushing into a marriage. Just because the pûssy or dïck is good, don't mean that finger deserves a ring.





A man that beats a woman is (I repeat), a SON-OF-A-BÏTCH who hasn't been taught better. There are several ways to resolve a dispute without violence coming into it. Several!!!!!!



The same way we've got what you call "innocent men", there are also truly innocent woman that only needs to disagree with her man's point of view before getting showered with slapping and kicking in abundance.



Let's call a spade a spade, why will a clean man resort to violence just because his wife did something wrong? That "clean man" has obviously had a history of violence that he's been hiding in the cupboard to Narnia.

Shollypopz: @abiL: if u need help on the subject, I dey ever ready.

LMAO @ trying to change a man. If u're looking for something to fix/train, get a dog. It's much more satisfying!

My sister jump in o and add your opinion to it.

You've been tagged!

[quote author=D-Explorer]In as much as you've got some valid points, it also could be your very submission that no woman can change a man even as i disagree. Away from that, the bolded could mean that a woman/wife can also change to be aggressive to the extent of once-an-innocent-man beating the hell off her brains. Agreed?[/quote]Marriage changes most people if they have the willingness to change.

Positive changes needs to come from self.

Negative changes comes from within as well.

Both needs to be triggered by something.


An "innocent man" will not randomly decides to lay his hand on his wife. He will most probably have the need to be aggressive in him, but has been repressing it until the point where it can't be hidden no more.

Haven't you heard of men who are all lovey-dovey until after marriage when their true colours starts to show?




Also, a woman "changing to become aggressive" is not an excuse for a son-of-a-bîtch to smack her up.

Like a poster has previously stated, don't get into a relationship in the hope of changing the person.

There are billions of people on this earth, find someone suitable for you, who's close to perfect and doesn't need changing.

...unless he wears diapers, then you need to be changing his pads for him

[quote author=D-Explorer]You see, most men aren't "bad guys" before marriage and am so sure no woman with potential admirers as option will accept a ring from such a man. Dear, most men changes in marriage and at bolded, you seem to get my drift. Now, when a man turns wife-beater, does it mean he can't be "influenced" to change and be a better husband. I'm pointing out all these because most comments here are somewhat frivolous.[/quote]In reply to the wife-beater comment, a wife-beat can be changed... Only if he truly wants the change. Some aggressive men might tell you that they want to change but deep down, being aggressive is what they known. They've grown up in violence, therefore, the man's partner won't be able to change the guy on her own.

The man will need help to change his faulty thoughts. He needs to unlearn, and relearn new associations. He needs to know that violence isn't the answer.

But such need to have the willingness to make a change.



A man just don't randomly "turns" to be a wife beater. Something must have triggered it. Whatever that something is, it's not the woman's fault. He needs to sort his own issues out without being physically aggressive to her.



And yes, marriage changes most people (men AND women). A woman who is selfish, can learn to be selfless once she's married. But physically laying hands or being aggressive to your partner needs more than a change. A person that does such is messed up mentally.

An aggressive man shouldn't enter into a marriage in hopes that it would change him. He needs to deal with his anger before involving another being.

A woman can never change a man. Not unless the man truly wants to change. Change comes from within.

A great misconception. Some women fall in love with bad guys because the think they can change the guy. Once they realise that they can't, they start to complain about how they've wasted their time on that stagnant relationship.

A woman can defo influence a man to change, but she can't change a man. She can be the reason why the man suddenly wakes up and decides that he wants to change, but she can't force or push him to change.

He might pretend that he has changed just to please her and pull her along in the lane of deception, but unless the man truly wants to change, a woman can do nothing but pray and hope.

I'm coming, let me copy and paste my previous comments

Idowuogbo: Hahahaha!! Na wa o! Attitude up and down dis thread, na time of d month?

Idowuogbo: Oh la la! She get iPhone

Thanks for the free advert. I'll remember you in my prayers

[quote author=D-Explorer]Oh no! Lets resolve that that's your opinion because many female folks won't agree to that else we make a new thread It's a general believe that you gender can change a man and for me, a wife-beater got hope. What if the woman becomes the fool and remain extra submissive? Who if she adopts prayer with meekness? Those points sound absurd......right? Maybe i should quickly ask......is there no wife for every man?......and don't you believe in transformation testimonies instead of jumping from one to another with different excuses? I don't support woman-beating but i think you folks somehow got some magics.[/quote]A great misconception. Some women fall in love with bad guys because the think they can change the guy. Once they realise that they can't, they start to complain about how they've wasted their time on that stagnant relationship.

A woman can defo influence a man to change, but she can't change a man. She can be the reason why the man suddenly wakes up and decides that he wants to change, but she can't force or push him to change.

He might pretend that he has changed just to please her and pull her along in the lane of deception, but unless the man truly wants to change, a woman can do nothing but pray and hope.



To add: there is a woman for every man, but most people rush into things whereby, they end up with the wrong partner for them. That's when things starts to go left.

Idowuogbo: Moonlight takes dey ni?

Autocorrection on phone

ItsModella: abiL, how long is the ban on your other account?

Until November 12 or 13.

Me that I'm omo Jesu, Sexkillz just banned me for no reason

[quote author=D-Explorer]He has the ability to change. Don't you believe in prayers? There's this thing about a woman changing a man, isn't this one among several?[/quote]I don't know where you've hearing your moonlight tales from, but a woman can never change a man. Not unless the man truly wants to change. Change comes from within.

Shollypopz: Really?? What do we have below??



If it's Shollypopz, u know u're dealing with fact! #no time!

This girl, you have time sha

lalaosky: LMAO @abiL*...so this is a new trend ?...if shollypopz gets banned, next moniker will be shollpopz* and now abiL has joined her...lwkmd....expecting idowuogbo* and itsModella*...lol

Yes o!

If this new one gets banned, my next one will be *abiL*

What if I'm not?

Shollypopz: So u're just seeing what I've been saying since the cheater's thread. The girl's mentality is a result of d sick society or bigot environment she grew up in. She has to free herself from mental slavery though.

Every time you say "mental slavery", I laugh small small