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I remember posting this in my early days here. The threads got deleted and I got banned for it twice.

Just hope they don't delete it this time around.

Hard-hitting questions they've been unable to answer after 700+ years

They won't even let us enjoy our threads in peace. I wonder why those comments are still on the 1st page.
Do we really have a mod?

Just to add to the convo:

As regards the use of Masbaha, there is a hadith narrated by Umm Salamah reported in Sunan Abi Dawud that the prophet saw one of his wives counting stones during Dhikr. The prophet prohibited her from doing that and told her to count her fingers instead. And he said those fingers are going to intercede for her on the day of judgment

So you don't leave something as rewarding as this and start counting Masbaha because what counting stones is equivalent to today is the use of Masbaha

Shaykh Bakr bin Abu Zayd wrote in detail about this in his book, As-Subhah. He said the use of Subhah is from the Kuffar especially the Roman Catholics. So to be using that during worship might come across as imitating the Kuffar and we all know what the prophet said about that.

Also, there is no single authentic hadith that advise us to use anything other than the fingers.

Allaahu A'lam

snapscore:
Jazakallahu khyran!!!

Wa iyyãki

I dare say there is no religion on Earth with a Fiqh as robust as that of Islam, that's if they even have at all. All they rely on is logic and sense. There is no daily manual. You just do whatever you like your own way.

This is another proof of the trueness of Islam. I don't think all these false religions have tafsir of their scriptures either.

Our religion is a perfect one with no blemishes. Sorry, we aren't interested in debates.

Al yawmu aklamtu lakum diinakum wa atmamtu alaykum ni'matii wa radiitu lakumul Islam

My Keyboard is always changing it to Jazakumullah Khayran even when I intend to pray for one person.

Praying for everyone isn't bad afterall

Wow!! Awesome thread Abdelkabir..

How come I'm just seeing this? Jazakallahu Kahyran

I posted this because of the challenges some of us are having here as regards dealing with Ahlul Bid'ah

Ustaz, the ones we have here are very unique oh. The people of innovation I know, admit they are not threading the right path but their excuses are that " Ah Afa gbogbo eleyi ti leju jare" so basically, most of them usually admit their wrongs after being shown evidence. How do you correct someone who isn't even ready to hear anything at all. Someone who thinks he knows it all, even more than the scholars. How do you deal with a haughty Mubtadii

I have more questions to ask.

But whatever it is, may Allah make everything easy for us

QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH SHAYKH, DR SHAROF GBADEBO ROOJI (HAFIDHOHULLAAH)

Questioner: How can we rectify the people of innovation?

Dr Sharof: You should teach them. Condemnation won’t rectify their affairs. All the people that the Prophet met in his residence were disbelievers. He wasn’t condemning them. He was patiently teaching them. When they accepted Islaam, they became the companions of the Prophet. Most of the people who condemn others today are not free from evil acts, yet they condemn others.

Most people today want to quickly disparage others without striving to rectify them. That is the problem we are facing now (in the present world). Many people excessively condemn others; is condemnation regarded as knowledge? Many of these people who condemn others are ignoramuses yet they rise up to the occasion to condemn others. That is why it is said that the more you become knowledgeable, the more you become elegant. The more you become ignorant, the more you become extreme. That is why there are people who are bold to say statements like, ‘why haven’t you condemned them to hell?’ and the likes. The more you become ignorant, the more you become extreme, but the more you become knowledgeable, the more you become elegant and (the more you) recognize the effects of your past actions. When you become knowledgeable you will discover that you have passed erroneous verdicts and (hasten to) quickly correct them. It is not self-effacing to make people know that you had formerly misled them. That is why there is need to be calm (when treading the path of knowledge).

The Prophet said, ‘Calmness does not get into anything except that it beautifies it and it is not removed from anything except that the thing becomes destroyed.’ The Jews came to meet the Prophet saying, ‘As-saamu ‘alaykum’ (Death to you), the Prophet responded with, ‘’Alaykum’ (And to you). ‘Aa’ishah said, ‘And to you, May Allaah’s anger and curse meet you’. She said angrily, ‘Didn’t you hear what they said?’ The Prophet replied, ‘Yes, and I answered them.’

There are some of the students learning western education who haughtily greet themselves saying, ‘Saamu ‘alaykum’. What does that mean? The correct greeting is, ‘Assalaamu ‘alaykum’. ‘Saamu ‘alaykum’ is a curse. Therefore, calmness does not get into anything except that it beautifies it and it is not removed from anything except that the thing becomes destroyed. As such, we have a lot to learn from the Prophet (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam). People will undoubtedly make mistakes, but we have to talk to them with calmness. In the end, they will agree.

There is a companion known as An-Nu’maan bn Basheer. As for the story regarding how his father Basheer who was a disbeliever accepted Islaam; the Prophet asked him about the number of gods he worships. He said the gods are seven, but six of them exist in the world while the remaining one is in the heavens. The Prophet asked him to mention the one he calls from his gods if he encounters difficulty in his affairs. He replied that he would call the one in heaven. The Prophet placed his hands on Basheer’s chest and convinced him that he should discredit his gods in this world since they can’t take him out of difficulties. This man did not know when he said, ‘I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah and I testify that Muhammad is His Messenger’. If the Prophet had condemned him directly to hell with people like Fir’aun and the likes, will he accept Islaam? Of course, he wouldn’t have accepted Islaam! For this reason, it is upon us to learn Da’awah methodology. It (Da’awah methodology) should not be on the basis of how you wish so that you do not be the means by which people detest Islaam.

A non Muslim came to meet the Prophet (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam) that he would accept Islaam if the Prophet gives him all the sheep in his custody. The Prophet asked him to take them. He went with all the sheep and accepted Islaam. When he got to his people with the sheep, he said, ‘Accept Islaam because Muhammad gives alms extensively’. Allaah is great! This is from the reasons why many people accept Islaam.

There is a person who came to meet the Prophet that he would accept anything Islaam brings but he won't leave Zinaa. If the Prophet condemned him immediately, he wouldn’t think of accepting Islaam. When he turned back, the Prophet asked him if he would be pleased seeing his daughter engaging in Zinaa. He said, ‘No’. The Prophet asked him if he would be pleased seeing his mother engaging in Zinaa. He said, ‘No’. The Prophet asked regarding his sisters and aunts. His response was ‘No’. Then the Prophet told him that his partners in Zinaa are some other people’s daughters, mothers, sisters and aunts. He (the person) then declared that he how detests Zinaa. Whatever we fail to achieve with serenity cannot be achieved with violence. For this reason, we have to learn how we can be the means to spreading the message of Islaam. That is it. But this cannot be achieved without knowledge. If you are the type who only knows about violence, you can’t help to achieve tranquility. Annihilation does not require knowledge, but conciliation requires knowledge. It is easy for people to utter nonsensical statements because it requires no research. However, rational discussion requires research so that you do not mislead others.

[SOURCE: “QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION DURING THE EXPLANATION OF MA’AARIJUL QABUUL”; VENUE: “IBADAN”; TIME: “36 minutes 27 seconds to 43 minutes 09 seconds”]

Translated by Aboo Aaishah Al Odeomeey

I haven't seen Aboo Bilaal in a while. He probably got tired of the toxicity of this section which I'm beginning to feel by the way. Certain characters make the section "somehow" to me and It reminds me of the days when I used to view as a guest

I need to take my time before making the decision whether this is the right place for me.

Shaykh Al Albaanee warned the people of Syria about rebelling against the rulers. I'm sure they would be slapping themselves right now for not listening.

When knowledgeable scholars Allah has blessed with wisdom talk, you see ignorant people who haven't even been able to apply their sugar-coated wisdom to their own lives writing nonsense

Allaahul Musta'aan.

RABIUSHILE04:
Where their hypocrisy lies is that, they prefer he has girlfriends outside as many has ten or more... But he shouldn't marry them.

They encourage him in sins, mischief on earth spreads from there. This is common among ukhtiis who claim to be educated and freedom. Freedom from Allaah's command and Sharia, I seek refuge in Allaah.

They forget Allaah is the creator who knows MAN's weakness. Man has been created polygamously.

I rmbd Aboo Nasir talked about this issue in one of his audios(usuol sunnah). He says when a woman dislikes polygamy, it is due to her very low level of Imaan n intellect.

She should make dua to Allaah to make her love all of Allaah's Shari'. It is understandable that it is annoying feeling but when it is halaal, we should just accept, perhaps something we think is good for us is actually bad for us.

May Allaah bless our women and grant them Jannahtul firdaws alive or dead ones

Allaahu must'an.

Succinctly put. It's as a result of weak Eemaan. We once had a sister here who even used to go as far using swear words against those who warned her about speaking against what Allah has made permissible. May Allah rectify her affairs

We all have our faults and weaknesses but we should always strive to do better rather than looking for excuses to continue doing the wrong or pick fights against those who point out our errors.

Aamin per the emboldened.

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AbdelKabir:
Oh! Its in English....

I know say your type no dey read English. I hail you oo. Afa oni larubawa

How much do we need to pay to learn from you Sir?

snapscore:
Wa iyyaka

I didn't know we had online bookstores in Nigeria.

Lol. Wallaahi I didn't know too. I only googled Nigeria alongside the title just to know how much it is in Naira and that website came up

But I would rather buy it offline. I don't like buying things online

RABIUSHILE04:
Ayyoob as-Sakhtiyaanee (rahimahullaah) said,
"Verily, the Khawaarij differ in their names, but they are agreed upon the usage of the sword." (Related by ash-Shaatibee in al-I'tisaam (1/113).) translated by ibn Ahmad maher

Al Imaam As-sakhtiyaanee (rahimahullah) was a contemporary of Imaam Maalik and was the greatest scholar in Basra after the death of Al Imaam Hasan Al basree (rahimahullah)

AbdelKabir:
Lol, I thought I was the only one who felt that way....

He is so so brilliant....

Can I get it?

I personally don't have the book but it's available in most bookstores. Online and offline

http://www.iqrabooks.com.ng/details.php?code=1265986152

You should also be able to get it for free from his students on Facebook if they are generous enough lol

AbdelKabir:
And funny too....

You can say that again

Jazakumullah khayran for posting that video @snapscore

One of the most awesome and heart-melting videos I've seen in a while. Doesn't it feel good listening to the Imaam of the muhadditheen of our time? So many times I wish I were a student of this great man. Aah! His virtues are countless. Whenever his students talk about him, you can't help but smile. They loved him so much and even his bitter rivals had nothing but deep respect for him.

Abu Naasir has a biography of him.

The last time I saw Dr Sharof was late 2014 at Ikeoluwa
Central mosque where he delivers Halqah.

Very brilliant man. I love him for Allah's sake

Lol na wah

Anyway, let me get a jotter to drop notes from the lessons of you Sibawayh(s)

Farmerforlife:
With what intention please? Continuing the argument or seeking knowledge?
Alright Shaykh ibn Uthaymayn. I hope that is scholar enough for you?

"Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen was asked about the ruling on wearing engagement rings. He said: The engagement ring is a kind of ring, and there is nothing wrong with rings in principle, unless that is accompanied by some belief, as some people do when the man writes his name on the ring that he gives to his fiancée, and she writes her name on the ring that she gives to him, believing that this will create strong bonds between the couple. In this case, this ring is haraam, because it is an attachment to something for which there is no basis in Islam and which makes no sense. Similarly, with regard to the engagement ring, it is not permissible to the man to put it on his fiancée’s hand, because she is not his wife yet and she is still a stranger (non-mahram) to him, because she is not his wife until after the marriage contract has been done."

See al-Fataawa al-Jaami’ah li’l-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, vol. 3, p. 914-915

Personally, I first got my opinion when I asked a Saudi trained Nigerian scholar in Saudi Arabia when I went for hajj after my marriage, and he gave me the same response, that it was ok if no special belief is attached to it. He has not, to my knowledge, written hundreds of books like Shaykh alAlbani, so you will not likely have heard of him, but he is no less a scholar, having completed his doctorate degree in fiqh, in Jami'a Islamiyya in Medinah. I also believe that the entire body of hanafi fuqahaa permit the wearing of wedding rings. Bro, I admire your zeal for Islam, but please remember the use of hikmah in passing across information.

You don't have to know what the intent is. The question was as simple question as it looks. I don't know why you think anyone who disagrees with you is trying to pick up a fight. And what hikmah are you talking about. I wasn't even the one who created the thread neither did I try to pass any info

That said, majority of the scholars agree wearing of engagement rings is from the acts of the kuffar.

Allaahu A'lam

Farmerforlife:
Allahu a'lam, this is one of the issues with which I disagree with shaykh alAlbani (may Allah bestow His mercy upon him), and tend to agree with those scholars who differ in opinion with him concerning it. A simple google search...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_ring

...will show that the wedding ring has no spiritual or theological symbolism, and did not even originate with the Christians, but was used in many pre-Christian cultures. Of course, Shaykh alAlbani may be excused in that google was not in existence at the time he died, so he probably based his fatwa on wrong information aboit its origin and use. Also, there is no evidence to believe that the ring is worn now, or was originally worn as a means of tawassul to keep the marriage together, or to keep love alive. It is worn just as an indicator of marital status. Furthermore, the premise that using it in that way is wrong and is 'imitating the kuffar' can be challenged on many levels. The hadith citing prohibition on imitating the kuffar states 'man tashabbaha bi qawmin fa huwa minhum', the word 'tashabbaha' is interpreted to refer to the deliberate imitation of the disbelievers to be like them, and this is not so in this case, which is merely using a tool that they also use. For example, we could say that using an umbrella when it rains cannot fall under the purview of this hadith, even though the unbelievers used it first, nor did the prophet (ﷺ) shun the use of clothing worn by pagan Arabs (like the 'imamah) in order to look different from them. In any case, this would be a controversial ruling, and the way I see it, making this statement...



...was an invitation to baseless argument over a controversial opinion, and does not seem very well intentioned. May Allah grant us knowledge and forgive us all.

Allah knows best.

Do you mind telling us the scholars who disagreed with him?

Jazakumullah Khayran. Let's wait for our resident NL Shuyookh They don't disappoint. We're used to their antics anyway

As regards the issue of boycotting

Imaam Al Albaanee was of the opinion that a Muslim shouldn't boycott another Muslim who testifies that there is no diety worthy of worship except Allah because he has deviated ideologically or practically. But if he fears that, he might get contaminated, ideologically or morally, then he should stay away from him.

His reason for this was that we are in a time when harshness or boycott against the deviants might bring more harm than good cos he felt it scares them away from Islam.

The people of innovation like to reference the Imam's opinion on this without looking at the emboldened.

They themselves know they're innovators but they just can't help themselves

P.S: He was a thorn in the flesh of the people of innovation and this is apparent in his books. He was just a bit softer in his approach in dealing with them compared to other scholars of his time.

Some people claim that innovation (bid'ah) comes in 5 types, obligatory, recommended, permissible, disliked, and forbidden.

Don't be fooled. Shaykh Ash-Shinqeetee told us that this conceptualization, while feigning nuance, is based on a fundamental misunderstanding or even deliberate obfuscation of what innovation actually means. This definition bases its categorization upon the linguistic meaning of innovation, which is the advent of any new thing. But innovation has a well established meaning within the terminology of Islamic scholarship, and that meaning refers to innovation in religious worship only. The term innovation (bid'ah) is thus incorrectly applied to non-religious things, although technically linguistically permissible.

And this is the crux of the argument, people who claim that innovation comes in 5 types are in fact desensitizing you to the danger of innovation in Islam and making it seem less cut-and-dry as it really is.

They almost always refer to the statement of Umar about praying in congregation at night during Ramadan when he called it "a good innovation." Umar was using the word in its linguistic sense, as the meaning within scholarly terminology had not yet been cemented. Moreover, Umar was actually referring to bringing BACK a practice of the Prophet, not starting something new, since Al-Bukhari recorded that the Prophet had prayed night prayers in congregation during Ramadan a few times before stopping the practice for fear of it being seen as something obligatory.

Then they will say: "so should we just ride camels since cars are innovations?!" And to that we say of course not, since non-religious matters don't enter into the definition of innovation according to the scholars in the first place, which is actually the usage in accordance with the meaning given to the word by the Prophet himself, who said, "Every innovation is misguidance."

Due to all this, as the Shaykh told us, the matter is very simple. Innovation, all of it, is forbidden.

AbdelKabir:
The Ruling On Disliking Polygamy/ The 'Allaamah Shaykh 'Abdul-'Azeez ibn Baaz


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Whh3742HDQ

Tell them, cos we have many of them here

AbdelKabir it's interesting to know our resident nl scholars know more than Shaykh Saalih Al fawzaan

Allaahul musta'aan