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helinues:
I asked you a simple yes or no question. What's this shalaye for?

Why ask me a question you couldn't answer yourself? Read the title of this thread again, OP's first post, and then evaluate it side by side with your rant in your first post.

helinues:
Is this Bayo Onanuga's son? Even shame dey ashamed of una

In your mind, do you believe Bayo Onanuga is too important or too exceptional to have a child with drug and identity problems, as if he is superior to the hundreds of thousands of Nigerian youths on the streets struggling with drug issues due to neglect, frustration, and joblessness? Is there anything or anyone you cannot defend?

So, because he is Bayo Onanuga, his son must be better than you in all ramifications? See what politics has reduced you to?

helinues:
Cheap blackmailing

Try something superior . Una no even get shame, una still dey talk on this thread

Shame oo

Lol. You accuse people of not moving on from 2023 loss, but here you are still gallivanting from thread to thread defending, your "victory" 😀 Is politics still a game? 🤭

helinues:
There are some things I am not understanding, is it that some of you contested in the last election and then loss hence still bitter about the 2023 election or the bitterness is on behalf of someone's else loss?

Una dey behave as if nothing meaningful is happening in life again apart from politics. That's inside this beautiful life.

Oga oo

To you, politics is just a game that happens every four years? This is disappointing coming from a man who spends his entire time still defending these same politicians.

We should rejoice because Spaghettini, which was previously sold for N80-N200 for over a decade, surged to N1000 within just three years but has now decreased slightly to N900-N950?? It will never be well with y'all. Awon ole o ni propaganda!

ValarDoharis:
Where is the money saved from subsidy?

He has used it to service the inflationary pressures caused by his decision to prematurely remove subsidy How did you think he got the newly increased allowance of 77k for NYSC members and 70k minimum wage for other government employees? Don't expect any other "gain" from fuel subsidy removal.

loffyloffy:
Haven't you heard of gce, iambic etc

He could have re sat his exams and joined a preliminary program

...which is why he's not a failure. We don’t know how many times he tried before passing his exams, so if anyone is failing at something, they should not take the post as validation to accept failure.

I had to point that out because of the narratives already seen on the thread.

How old is your first daughter?


Nigerians are seeking liberation and deliverance from perpetual national liars.

How did you gain University admission with F9 parallel? You definitely excelled at some point.

Mariangeles:
That is the prayer pattern of most of us anyways.
We pray, then tell GOD how to answer.

Mariangeles:
Because it is very necessary to seek GOD while searching for a life partner.

He gave God a condition for who he wants as a partner. I think the prayer and fasting are pointless. The same applies to the majority of people who want a particular kind of man or woman as a partner.

I just need a 25-28 yo igbo lady preferably imo state that's very reasonable.

Why are you praying and fasting to get married?

Where is your statement about the killing of Ondo state indigenes??

ManOfSon:
Nigeria is such a dangerous, hideous space. You'll never ever hear these fulani sympathizers say pim about the constant killings of farmers all over Nigeria, especially in the South. Violence can never ever be the answer. But it seems people are just tired of government inaction in the face of constant aggression/provocation and have decided to take their own protection in their own hands.

Fact.

Only an animal would get more upset over the killing of Hausa/Fulani people in Edo than the killing of Ondo State people by the same Hausa/Fulani people. Both instances should naturally get us all riled up, but no, these deaf and d u m b "national leaders" only release letterhead memos when their ethnic groups are at the receiving end or when their political ambitions or treasury are threatened.

There's is also another set of barbaric animals who don't even care about their own people let alone the "Nigerian" agenda. An example is the Ondo state SSA who denied the killing of his own people because he wants to please his master and saviour in Aso rock who is also fond of asking s t u p i d questions like "where are the cows?"

ValarDoharis:
Those are dane guns, not AK 47.

They shouldnt have been killed in such gruesome manner

Dane guns don't kill?

She's the wife of Mr President, Seyi Tinubu's mama, not anybody else's mama. Sets of unthinking c l o w n s. From office of the president's son to office of the president's first daughter and iyaloja of all market women, and now our mama??

The governor of the state should intervene. This is absolute nonsense.

lovediehatelive:
4 whooping weeks?

In relation to when the love was made how would the 9 months be calculated.

A full-term pregnancy takes 40 weeks, and a typical month isn’t exactly 4 weeks, but about 4.3 weeks except February. So, everyone just round down to 9 months. Plus, pregnancy is broken into three trimesters, and 3 trimesters times 3 months each reinforces that 9 months. In fact, doctors consider 36 weeks as pre-term except for twin gestation.

Ahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The moment she misses her period, she's 4 weeks pregnant, assuming her cycle is around 28 days.

sammsimm:
Haha... A woman would tell me to shut up? I would use blow to shift her jaw. She dey craaaze

What if a man tells you to shut up?

Esthered:
You don’t need to send money to zap before you send to other account. Zap is a direct debit platform that allows you to debit all accounts/cards you linked directly and make payments (transfer in this instance)

Oh, really? That's quite innovative.

It's funny how I know a married woman who is also trying to abscond to Abuja, but in her case, the people around her - her siblings and parents - won't allow it, even though her reasons are somewhat justifiable. The difference between her and your wife lies in the parents.

I made this post last year.

Acidosis:
4. Your in-laws have a majority stake in your marriage whether you believe it or not. The longer you grow in marriage, the lower their stake. Prior to your wedding, they hold about 90% stake, 10 years after and all things being equal, that stake should drop to 55%. But they're never going below 50%.

Esthered:
MOGs don't call it appearance fees but a pastor colleague at RCCG confirmed to me that inviting his fellow pastor to his church is at a cost as they're not expected to go empty handed and if he's invited, he's expected to be honored. It's now a NORM not expressly stated but implied.

The pastor is correct. It's called honorarium. Even in my church, there's an unwritten rule that you cannot invite guests - whether a pastor or an artist - to your church and leave them empty-handed. This is quite different from appearance fees, which typically involve fixed amounts, legal conditions and consequences, down payments, and invoices.

Tech people should get more innovative. Why should I send money from GTB to zap only to send it out to Zenith or Opay? What's wrong with GTB to Zenith or Opay directly? Nigerians are no longer interested in fintech apps that add nothing to their account balance.

An investment based app that incorporates traditional investment instruments (shares, treasury bills, MMFs, etc.) and cryptocurrencies would have been a better innovation. A touch of Standard Chartered app's risk assessment + Yellow Card's trusted and tested crypto listings + i-Invest TB and fixed money instruments + VFD's target and crew savings + Palmpay's loan service will change the market's dynamics completely.

bookson:
Good riddance 👍
Yeye Bello 0 - Natasha 2

You clearly didn't read the writeup.

Truthseeker10:
are all these things that you are paying for produced by a church with church funds? If yes, you are been cheated.

If pastors use their money to write books on the "gospel", should it be sold? Where was the idea of the "gospel" gotten from?

No more response on church funds from me.

So did any of the disciples sell their property to commercialise the "word of God"?

This is like asking 'why did Jesus told his disciples to sell off their properties even though salvation is free'

Your line of argument is already a turn off. I am not convinced you even belong to any church to start with. So, I'll simply excuse myself from this discussion. No vex🤞 Many times on this section, I've found myself discussing bible matters with radical atheists, unknown to me, thanks to Seun.

Truthseeker10:
oga you have failed in your defense. If you agree that bibles and books produced by the church with church funds should not be sold to members, then "ministry schools" set up by church funds should never charge a fee like femi Lazarus who charges 150 dollars for "ministry school".

I didn't agree with anything. I paid for my hard copy bible from a bookstore. I bought bibles for my kids, I pay for Sunday school materials, I buy books written by MOGs, I download e-Bibles like YouVersion that are freely available (but heavily paid for by programmers, designers, and other donors, who gave their time for the app). Sometimes, I buy devotionals. I pay Internet subscription to listen to sermons online without trying to investigate the sources of the funds used by these authors. But since you're so sure that pastors take church money to write books, please provide evidence.

Any "gospel artist" or "pastor" that charges a fee whether in the church or outside the church cannot be said to do a work of the "gospel". The "gospel" should never be commercialized whether in the church or outside the church. Jesus and his apostles are good examples in this matter.

Salvation is free. That’s why you’ll see free tracts everywhere. However, if you are indeed a Christian who wants to grow and attain maturity, using your resources to seek more knowledge will be a natural thing for you. You wouldn’t need to be compelled to buy resources or start digging into an author’s source of funding. Some disciples of Jesus sold all their properties just to follow Him. Not everyone qualified, and that’s fine. There were twelve for a reason. Discipleship is not cheap. Nothing comes for nothing.

Magnificenttop:
The simple discussion here and as it is all over the internet is, the pastors are also as guilty or perhaps more guilty than the singers they're criticizing. If you're confused, I'm not.

Okay since the pastors are guilty of charging appearance fees (wherever you got that from), should gospel artistes continue to charge appearance fees? I never said you shouldn't criticise pastors, after all you people have been doing that before the birth of Christ. The point is why are you trying to water down the purpose of this thread and trend about appearance fees?

You're acting like the typical Nigerian. Whenever someone calls out a politician for stealing public funds, you quickly remind everybody of how everyone in Nigeria is a thief and how all of us have been stealing meat from our mama's pot of stew, therefore, the politician should be left alone. We all know what we are doing. Lol.

Truthseeker10:
Funny man.....so are you justifying that books and bibles that are produced by the church with church funds should be sold?

From the way you are so confident that churches use church funds to print books and resell them to their members, one would think you have managed a church or held a treasury position in a megachurch before. Stop discussing issues beyond your scope of knowledge, bro.

To move forward with my view on church funds and management, we both need to provide evidence that we have handled church finances and records of a megachurch for at least a year. Are you ready?

You are funny oo.....did you not claim that "ministry school" are schools that teach how to handle "church services". Why should there be a charge on that at all when church funds and donations are used to set them up?

Refer to my post above

Truthseeker10:
You are funny and cunny. If a church produces a bible with church funds, should it be sold to church members?

Thankfully, they don't have to force or beg you to buy. Any christian that wants to grow know too well to buy these books/bibles, whether you're buying from the bookshop or wherever. It is not my business to investigate the authors' source of funding.

You are angry that gospel artist charge money for singing in church but you are not angry that pastors are charging money for "ministry school" pertaining to church? Hypocrisy.

You're confusing yourself bro. What's "ministry school" pertaining to church? At least, you're not accusing Apostle Selman or any other MoG for charging $50k and first class ticket to preach in the UK 🤭

BTW, I'm not angry that gospel artist are charging money for singing. I'm happy that MOGs have identified the anomalies and monsters they created and now they are so ready to deal with these monsters.

If you're one of these artists, it's not too late to repent. You can monetize your gift through other means. Start a music school, hire lecturers, and charge a fee. Write music books, hymns, and get a publisher/distributor. Abi you too no want "easy church money"? 😂

Truthseeker10:
Lol...so if Jesus and Paul never charged a fee for training on things pertaining to the church, what is the justification on charging a fee for a "ministry school" that is supposed to teach people on things pertaining to the church?

This is like asking, "Why do you use or pay for a Bible? Did Jesus sell or read Bibles?" You’ve taken the argument to a scope that doesn’t deserve my attention. So, at this point, I would rather leave you to believe and do what you believe in.

So why are the choirs not used instead of an artist. What is more important to God? The "artist" or the "song"?

This is like asking why do churches invite other pastors for programs? What's more important to God? The sermon or the pastor? So, again, you’ve taken the argument to a scope that doesn’t deserve my attention. So, at this point, I would rather leave you to believe and do what you believe in.