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HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 9:11pm On Aug 28, 2013
Dr young: I am not in Nigeria, I used a term which I believe will be equivalent to what you have there. How about second year resident.
And I am telling you that it is quarkery if you are not licensed to do it. If you ever cross over to this part of the world you will be frustrated cos nobody has a time to massage anybody's ego. There is job description bro stick to yours . Nigeria lawyers are really sleeping or else every worker should be working on toes to avoid malpractice and negligence lawyers. That I don't tow your line of reasoning shoudn't make me an impostor.
When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Now tell me the part of the world where the term "junior reg" is used?
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 8:26pm On Aug 28, 2013
Dr young: I think she is referring to the fact that you are not licensed to conduct lab investigations as an MBBS holder but as a pathologist you can go head. As a junior Reg in my chosen field , honestly wandering into a lab with just what you are taught in school without adequate skills, knowledge because you want to prove a point, to me it reeks of misplaced arrogance and placing the life or patients at risks.
First of all, there is nothing like junior reg. We have only registrars and senior registrars I hate imposters with passion. If you cannot be trusted on a small issue, how can we trust you on a bigger one?

Secondly, no one is displacing the lab scientists from their job. I am only alluding to the fact that we can do their job if need be. So, lab scientists should not feel that they are indispensable. Surely, the events of the last few days must have taught them lesson.
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 7:27pm On Aug 28, 2013
Joanna Sedley: Doctors are not certified to perform such, see Laalameds post. Except you are a pathologist, i am sorry but you are commiting quakery .
It seems like you have problem comprehending medical terms. Who is a pathologist? Doctors can do those investigations if they want. But does so on few occasions, especially for research purposes and cases of academic importance. By the way, lab scientist do the tests, doctors report. Doctors can differentiate between a report by a pathologist and a lab scientist. Doctors that perform the job of a lab scientist are not commiting quackery, but a lab scientist that does the reverse is a quack. The difference is clear.
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 6:38pm On Aug 28, 2013
Joanna Sedley: YOU are not certified to do it meaning you don't have the in depth knowlegde. Every medical science students were thought these in passing in their various 5-6 yrs courses but only doctors has a claim that they can do all while a professional who spent 5yrs+ 1yr internship studying this in detail ...........God...om GOD.
This is really pathetic, honestly. Tell me you are just massaging your ego. Pathologist trains hard to do lab work after graduating as doctors, if not i dont think they need the training. They should just jump in wet in the ear after MBBS.
Who says that doctors are not certified to do it? Your ignorance knows no bound. Do you think that 3rd MB programme is of no consequence? By the way, I can also decide to do my residency in your field. It seems like very few of you knows that doctors received an all encompassing training in medical field. You also forgot to note that lab science is in the original job description of doctors, which they decided to delegate to some group of people. Seriously, we want the lab scientists to continue with this strike. Those guys are a drag on our job. If you ask them to do a simple PCV, they will start telling you how difficult it is to do it. Our patient almost died from an incompatible blood given to her, after the lab scientist spent four hours crossmatching it. Most of my friends who failed out from medicine found mls an easy course. Tomorrow they will tell me that their training is comparatively better than mine.
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 5:55pm On Aug 28, 2013
GentleMimi: sharrap! Ignoramous u. I work in a hsptl,u know.Many times i see doctors taking advice frm scientist concerning patient diagnosis. Can a doctor carry out ordinary malaria test,not to talk of RIA,parasitology in detail,tissue proccessing,hormonal assay,....d list is endless. Acquire knowldge dude!
hahahaha
Either you are joking or you are a joke. I did all those investigations as a medical student and I still do it now. I repeat that doctors can do all the lab investigations done by the lab scientists and many more with greater accuracy.
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 5:33pm On Aug 28, 2013
Laalamed: and why should not a cleaner,mortuary attendants,chew,lab technician,pharmacy technicians ,pharmacists,doctors,mls,nurses and so on with same year of working experience get the same salary. i think in health sectors all workers should be called appointed as consultants after 5years work experience viz consultant physcians,consultant pharmacists,consultant cleaner,consultant hospital maid,consultant mls,consultant secretary,consultant nurse,consultant anatomist,consultant morticians, consultant health instructor, consultant engineer. all should get the same starting salaries and post of head of department and cmd should be on rotation by balloting.there is need for equality.
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You forgot consultant porter. Also the post of CMD will be rotated. Any year that porters gets it, doctors will work as porters and consultant lab scientists will operate on patients. Butterfly that calls himself a bird.
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 5:28pm On Aug 28, 2013
nig2change: Whether like or dislike, the health sector needs team work. Doctors can't do it alone when I knew the importance of a Med lab Scientist was when a simple accurate pcv saved my aunty. The consultant in charge told us frankly that he can't work without the lab tests. One thing I want to point out is that even if you know how to do it if you aint licenced or certify then you are not trained to do such.
What is difficult in PCV? This is a medical student investigation. Besides, urgent Hb is more accurate cos PCV is affected by many factors and hence unreliable on some occasions. Doctors can do every investigations being done by the lab scientists and even more.
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 12:42pm On Aug 28, 2013
Ochek: Another ignoramus on the matter!
Take nursing for example, them ve got different areas of specialty too. So ve u got to say about that kiddo?
hahaha, you are the ignoramus here. It takes a nurse 18 months to become a midwife, while it takes a doctor 6 years to become a gynaecologist. Does that mean anything to you?
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 12:02pm On Aug 28, 2013
The law by default recognized doctors as the head of a health institution. Only doctors are taken to court in the event of patient's mismanagement. Therefore, the doctors hv inalienable right to head a health institution. If the health workers are to share doctors responsibilities, they should be equally prepared to share the blame.
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 11:42am On Aug 28, 2013
Buchiano(m):
No Mister! The lab technicians can't be consultants but the Med. Lab Scts av bn ($ can b) consultants not only to hospitals but to renowned NGO's and have bn doin marvellously well.

I wonder what makes ppl lyk U think that only physicians can be consultants? Is it becos of the highly politicised residency programme that U do fr 5-6 years? Does that experience surpass that of a Pharmacist, med.lab.sct , nurse, phyiotherapist or med.imaging.sct. who has bn workin befor even some of U dreamt of purchasing JAMB forms??

I wish the fed govt would open up the residency programme lyk the college of medicine/ health sciences that we have in our universities $ allow every professional to enroll $ compete favourably. Let's c if most of this oda professionals wouldn't outshine the physicians lyk it wia in there university days.
Then why did you drag them with you to strike. Now tell me who is playing politics now?
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10:
Next time those workers go on strike, we will make sure they are all sacked from the civil service and their job will be outsourced. They can't continue to hold the health sector hostage with their petty demands. Nonsense! Butterflies that calls themselves birds.
HealthRe: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ACM10: 11:08am On Aug 28, 2013
Bludeville: Yes! it is the birthright of Doctors to head the sector!! And they are currently doing a wonderful job!! Obviously!!!
In case you missed it, I'm being sarcastic! Mitschewwww!
How can we be sure that health workers will do better? undecided
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PoliticsRe: Ekiti Considers Public Holiday For Fajuyi by ACM10: 7:03pm On Aug 26, 2013
remark D: I am glad i read through the thread cause some things i hadbelieved/heard from that Omoiygi guy is wrong. i dont understand why he would make up a fake letter of Ojukwu... i mean, what point is he trying to prove. i respected his website, but now feel cheated. i am glad he was challenged to provide evidence by the NNWDC group...
and Fajuiyi didnt choose to die with Ironsi as has been propagated? Gees, i've believed so many lies sad
So with me. I believed a lot of lies for too long. Yoruba writers are not helping matters. They've been the only source of information for far too long. But internet is seriously challengin their strangle-hold on the source of information. Then they turned to the internet to propagate falsehood. Most of them here will be most willin to quote those falsehood online as fact whenever u debates with them. Nowadays, I find it hard to believe any Nigerian history I reads on the web. Below is an excerpt from the book 'Gowon' by J. Isawa Elaigwu. You can find it on page 65.

Isawa Elaigwu: On 29th July, Lt Walbe and Major Danjuma were in effective contact at the State House after the change of guards. It was then that both officers walked up to Ironsi, saluted, and brought both Ironsi and Fajuyi downstairs. they were handed over to Lt Walbe(by Major Danjuma) to take charge. Lt Walbe and his troops took the two men to an area of bush at Ibadan where they subjected Ironsi to questions about the January coup and the Northern leaders and officers who died then. From the accounts of those who were there, Ironsi played the part of a very good soldier. Contrary to many publications suggesting that he made confessions, there seem to be no evidence of such confessions.
Similarly there was no evidence that Fajuyi was killed because he interceded for his host or that he refused to 'abandon his guest,' as reported by some publications. He was reported to have been very scared, and had been one of those marked down for elimination. By the time Major Akahan phoned Gowon in Lagos and received instructions to ensure that nothing happened to Ironsi, it was late. Even Major Akahan and Major Danjuma(then at Ibadan) had lost control over their boys.
https://www.nairaland.com/945502/nigeria-break-up-2015/16
PoliticsRe: Ekiti Considers Public Holiday For Fajuyi by ACM10: 7:01pm On Aug 26, 2013
Katsumoto: Dede1

The problem with you is that you refuse to research accurately preferring hearsay. I provided a book which lists all the interviews following that coup. The Nigerian Civil War, 1967-1970: history and reminiscences (Momoh)

Please answer the question - why was Fajuyi as good a target as Ironsi?
Quoting Lt. Walbe from the same book. . .


According to Lt Walbe
Lt Walbe: As far as I am concerned it was a lie(Yoruba publications). We arrested him as we arrested Ironsi. We suspected him of being party to the January coup. You remember the Battle Group Course which was held at Abeokuta . . . Fajuyi was Commander of the Battle Group course. He ran the course. All those who took part in the January coup were those who had taken part in that course. It gave us the impression that the Battle Course was arranged for the January Coup, so he had to suffer it too. I am sorry about that but that is the nature of the life of the military man
https://www.nairaland.com/945502/nigeria-break-up-2015/17
PoliticsRe: Ekiti Considers Public Holiday For Fajuyi by ACM10: 7:00pm On Aug 26, 2013
odua boy: liar source please
We've thrashed this topic before

Katsumoto: Nwankwo gave a summary of the events and left out some details.

1. Fajuyi was not arrested after he talked with Danjuma the first time. According to Danjuma, Fajuyi extracted a promise from Danjuma not to harm Ironsi. Danjuma told Fajuyi that they were there to arrest Ironsi. When the plotters were arguing with Ironsi about his inactions after the January coup, Fajuyi was still a mediator. It was during this argument that Nwankwo pulled a gun on Danjuma and the five other Northerners present directed their guns at Nwankwo.

2. When Gowon called the government house to warn Fajuyi and Ironsi about the coup, Danjuma answered the phone. This was a side house and not the main house. When Gowon asked Danjuma what was going on, Danjuma said he was there to arrest Ironsi. Again, no mention of Fajuyi.

3. Fajuyi was not arrested, charged, or had his name cited in any coup plotting material. I can not say for certain whether he was involved or not but it is quite possible that his name was slandered after his death. Afterall, the allegations only surfaced after his death.

All sources agree on the above facts. The stories start to change when Fajuyi, Ironsi and Nwankwo are bundled into a truck. Some sources claimed Danjuma walked back to the barracks while others place him at the scene of the killings. The question is, why were there different accounts after Ironsi and Fajuyi were killed? For one, the interview given by Danjuma to Army investigators (General Momoh - The Nigerian Civil War, 1967-1970.) contradicts that given by Walbe to Professor Elaigwu (Gowon: The Biography of a Soldier-Statesman). Walbe admits he was present when Ironsi and Fajuyi were killed but was silent about whether Danjuma was also there.

My opinion
Danjuma, Murtala and the other plotters could not justify the killing of an innocent man to his people and chose to malign his name by alleging that he was part of the plot. This is pure conjecture without facts. If there is no hard proof linking Fajuyi to the Jan 66 coup, then the only reasonable explanation is that he must have offered to die alongside Ironsi so as not to have the sin of complicity on his head. Or he may have been killed just because he was with Ironsi and the plotters did not want to leave a high ranking military officer as a witness. If Fajuyi was killed because it was alleged he knew about the January, then why weren't Gowon and Ojukwu also killed since it was alleged they also knew about the January coup?
Why must you lie? Does it make you sleep at night? Anytime you are busted on one lie in one thread you will pop up on another thread with a new spin on your lies. Read below an excerpt from the biography of Gowon written by professor Isawa Elaigwu.

Below is an excerpt from the book 'Gowon' by J. Isawa Elaigwu. You can find it on page 65.

Isawa Elaigwu: On 29th July, Lt Walbe and Major Danjuma were in effective contact at the State House after the change of guards. It was then that both officers walked up to Ironsi, saluted, and brought both Ironsi and Fajuyi downstairs. they were handed over to Lt Walbe(by Major Danjuma) to take charge. Lt Walbe and his troops took the two men to an area of bush at Ibadan where they subjected Ironsi to questions about the January coup and the Northern leaders and officers who died then. From the accounts of those who were there, Ironsi played the part of a very good soldier. Contrary to many publications suggesting that he made confessions, there seem to be no evidence of such confessions.
Similarly there was no evidence that Fajuyi was killed because he interceded for his host or that he refused to 'abandon his guest,' as reported by some publications. He was reported to have been very scared, and had been one of those marked down for elimination. By the time Major Akahan phoned Gowon in Lagos and received instructions to ensure that nothing happened to Ironsi, it was late. Even Major Akahan and Major Danjuma(then at Ibadan) had lost control over their boys.
Does the bolded sound familiar?

https://www.nairaland.com/1076677/real-story-how-lt.col-fajuyi/1
PoliticsRe: Ekiti Considers Public Holiday For Fajuyi by ACM10: 1:10pm On Aug 26, 2013
Mayor_of_Lagos: This ndigbo honour is misplaced.

Fajuyi exercised a Yoruba moral teaching that a guest in one's house must be honored and accomodated in goodwill. When assassins entered his home to take away his guest he responded in patriotism to his culture and not because Ironsi was Igbo.

This is a backdoor attempt by Igbo leaders wanting to appease Yoruba over their misspeak on Lagos. It is welcome but misplaced.
Fajuyi did not die to save Ironsi. This myth has been debunked ling time ago. Fajuyi was equally a target. Enough of this misinformation.
PoliticsRe: Pictures of first international flight from Enugu. by ACM10: 5:44pm On Aug 25, 2013
^^

Chei, Sullivan don old o. His fight with cancer is taking a toll on him. I wish him quick recovery.
PhonesRe: The Indestructible Chinese Smartphone by ACM10: 4:25pm On Aug 25, 2013
ignis: wow, after all.ghee guy subjected the phone to, not even a scratch was found on the screen, with the bottoms working perfectly well.

still wondering the material the phone is made of.
chinko guys wan do scam grin grin grin
PhonesRe: The Indestructible Chinese Smartphone by ACM10: 4:23pm On Aug 25, 2013
centje: lol grin I should get it for mum to use in cutting vegetablesgrin grin
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PhonesRe: The Indestructible Chinese Smartphone by ACM10: 3:54pm On Aug 25, 2013
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PoliticsRe: Pictures of first international flight from Enugu. by ACM10: 2:18pm On Aug 25, 2013
bobosydney: I want you to mention my home town but I will make it easier for you to tell you the state( Lagos state) and you can finish the rest. You are a coward, as you can see how I outsmart your brain and you just need to continue reading all my old post on nairaland so you can get more information about me ......lol grin grin grin grin
shatap u fraudster and a man of zero integrity. You are from Ogun grin grin grin
Art, Graphics & VideoRe: Centje Artworld by ACM10: 2:01pm On Aug 25, 2013
Wow!

Creativity at its best
PoliticsRe: Pictures of first international flight from Enugu. by ACM10: 11:04am On Aug 25, 2013
bobosydney: Thanks bro for believing in me and wise man like you very rare . I will not say that people will not find the picture on the google because that is how I rent it from real estate agen and real estate agent also advertise is it on internet before I rent it and anybody fee free to call the number on website if the house still available or not . I'm not a scammer and if anybody what to who I am , he or she can ask for my facebook name and you can go on my profile and see over 100 photos. I will also post my photo on my nairaland profile now .
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