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You need the holy spirit ooo

finofaya:
What I'm trying to say is that God has the power to do and undo and he applies it as he sees fit. Whatever God does is good. He is a merciful, just God and we are expected to have faith in him and trust that whatever he does in our lives is done for our overall benefit, individually and collectively.

But doesn't have the power to kill devil yet he keeps killing babies and adults

PSTEMMA1960:
when u are in good terms with God, u don't only thank him when good things happens only, u also thank him when bad things happens.. when u say bad things i mean something that is beyond human prevention, i.e miscarriage, accident or sudden death..

If I'm to go by ya logic, why don't we thank god for creating Satan as well?

when Job was been tempted, he never knew that if was a text, bt he never blamed anyone, instead he thanked God..

LoL
Job? A conspired script between god and Satan?
LoL

and what happened later？God gave her more beautiful children, more that the ones he lost, even times 2 of all the animals he lost..

Hahahahaha

OK naw

tamethem:
Clap for yourself. You must be high in the spirit by now thinking you have just delivered a wonderful lecture.
Not knowing all you have typed are total trash.

I will be back attending to some things

Will be waiting

asuustrike2009:
The judgement he passed to the above didn't take effect immediately. Adam and Eve still lived for years but paid dearly through suffering and death. The judgement on the Israelites and Egyptian were not immediate as there were warnings to that effect.

sending them out of the garden of Eden took million of years I guess? Huh?

Chaiiii
Jesus is lord

Daeylar:
At least he is trying to think, he knows something is wrong and he is trying to make up scenarios to make it right,
This is what happens when you ask them to be realistic,

@bold

saintvc:
all animal ate plants then.

Daeylar my sweetheart, are you reading this?

they were herbivorous.

HopefulLandlord, can you pls pass me the holy spirit. Really need it to comprehend and believe this truth.

leaves were stored in the ark

It is finished

asuustrike2009:
The judgment of God is not immediate but definely come to pass

But passed judgement immediately to Adam and eve?
Passed judgement immediately to the Israelites and Egyptians?
Passed judgement immediately to the people of baal?
Ogbeni, find new excuse à beg.

darol4real:
so many people are in bondage today because of what they did or said to men of God. That is why i advised you to keep your mouth shut.

Fvck that God and his Holy spirit.
Fxck men of God as well.

Bondage fire

darol4real:
IT'S BETTER YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR UNBORN GENERATIONS.....

God has always been a blood sucking monster, tyrant. And guess what? Your comment further proves it

What you are about to see here is the 100% disproval of Noah's Flood, Noah's Ark, and in general Creationism as a whole in one shot.


Why would I do this? No it is NOT to bash you people or any the religion. Personally I think the core of Christianity and Catholicism is just fine.

It uses stories and teaches some REALLY good moral values and ways of life. In other places it does however encourage out right murder for no reason. Just read the first quarter of King James and do not skip a single sentence. It is definitely there. Times back then were different than they are now. Thus the reason why entire sections of The Bible are no longer even read. Also thus the reason out right murder was fine back in those days. Remember we are talking about over 2000 years into the past. Times change......


This is really geared to the people who take The Bible too literally and completely accept it and all of it's contents as FACT.

All I want to do is to make you think for yourself and see absolutely unquestionable math based 100% fact. No myth, no lore, no imagination, just straight up, in your face, 100% math based fact. I have done my research on, mass, water displacement, equal mass displacement, buoyancy, ship building, water cycle, cosmology, buoyancy in differential gravitational fields, animal's weights, and a whole lot of paleontology and zoology.


Now onto the subject at hand:
Flood:
It is said that the entire planet is submerged by water. The highest peaks are 6 meters under, as taken from Genesis chapters 6-9. Well if you were to liquefy all ice on the planet, the water levels would only rise 20-50 feet globally. Mount Ararat is 16,854 feet high, while the tallest mountain, Mt. Everest is 29,028 feet high. 16,854 feet does not equal 20-50 feet, nor does 29,028 feet. 20-50 feet equals 20-50 feet, no more, no less.

This posses two immediate questions!
1. Where did all of that water come from?
2. Where did all of that water go?

Well everyone who has made it past 2nd grade can tell you the flood never happened. Why? The water cycle. This planet has had the same exact amount of water on it since it's beginning. It is in an unending cycle of evaporation, condensation, and precipitation. Water changes form, but never amount. Of coarse there is a differential of about maybe 1,000,000 gallons or so due to comet bombardment and volcanic activity. Comets are mainly ice, which is solidified water.


There, the flood never really happened.
Now lets just assume that the flood DID indeed happen, Noah is real, and he is not a story stolen from the ancient Babylonians. There, the flood is real, Noah (not Gilgamesh) is real, and finally the ark itself is real.


The Ark:
I read a bit of the Boatbuilder's Handbook from uscgboating.org. This is the US Coast Guard here. I read there that a boat 18'6" long has the capacity to carry 2513 pounds. This is the deck, propulsion system, sails, passengers...... well everything. The longest figures that I have seen of Noah's Ark is 515ft long. I did some calculations. The largest Noah's Ark can carry 69,954 pounds. The average weight of an African Savanna Elephant is 7.7 tons. This is the largest land animal alive today. Noah's Ark could carry only 4 and a half of them and no more. Genesis chapters 6-9 says Noah needs 1-7 pairs of each animal on the planet. Again Noah's Ark could only hold 4 and a half Savanna Elephants. This is not even including the three decks, the people, food and water for 40 days and nights of the actual flood, the 150 days of water receding, and the 40 or 50 days after the water receded. This is the total actual time spent on the Ark. 7 months and 17 days.


How bid does the ARk actually need to be to hold 1-7 pairs of every animal on the planet. Not only animals but seeds of every plant, food, water, and anything else necessary for all people and animals.


Admittedly this is where I start guessing:
OK with plant seeds and insects alone of all of these alive TODAY and TODAY alone would be perhaps in the low estimate neighborhood of 500 tons. That's is seeds and a few pairs of insects of each specie alive TODAY. Now lets take into consideration the extinction rate from 4300 years ago until now and boost that, at the very least, to 700 tons. (this boat is already stupid huge and we didn't even put a single mouse on it yet nor have we put on storage for these things let alone food and water for 7 and a half months)


I'm gonna take a quick break and name a few animals:
Elephant, Lion, Grizzly Bear, Anaconda, Tiger, Wolverine, Polar Bear.......
Do you think primitive humans could contain such beasts? No freaking way!
Let me remind all of you that a Polar Bear can pick up a 2 ton White Whale and throw it using one, single, arm. Yes! they are THAT strong! You think a human can contain that magnitude of strength with primitive technology?? Guess again!
OK! Now for the animals, and I'll take a nice short cut and include all of the animals including the extinction rate of 4300 years to now. This is one pair of each animal: avian, terrestrial, and subterranean..... my extreme guess and best estimate would be 500 billion tons? The ship has got to be the size of the USA by now if not possibly all of Asia! This doesn't even include the three decks, food, water, people, and containment for 7 months and 17 days

Ready for more We just started!! We are so not even close to being done yet!! I can do this aaaaalllllllll day!
ALL DAY!


The Christian and Catholics have accepted that dinosaurs exist. Not only that, but they were on the Ark since we all lived at the same time. So, how about all the animals from the time AFTER the dinosaurs but before us? Lets give it a shot!!!
Animals of the Cenozoic Era come on down!!!!:
Woolly Mammoth, Woolly Rhino, Sabre Toothed Cats!!! Yes!!!! Megistotherium, Andrewsarchus (pretty much 6 ton giant dogs) Chalicotherium, Entelodont, Leptictidium, Australopithecus, Castoroides Ohioensis, Gigantopithichus, Ambulocetus, and the Indricotherium. The Indricoltherium is a 20 ft tall, 30 ft long, 20 ton mammal. The largest land mammal ever found. It dwarfs the mammoth in every respect!! The Bullokornis!! This is a 1,100 pound bird and is also known as The Demon Duck Of Doom!!!!!! Terror birds, Gastornis! Yup them too! I'm pretty sure there is a 1 ton bird as well, but I forget it's name..... Also lets not forget the insects and plants. Avian, Terran, and Subterranean of the Cenozoic Era!! Ready

500 trillion tons!! + 500 billion tons + 700 tons = 500,500,000,000,700 Tons

One pair of each animal, no humans, food, water, decks, nor means of containment yet. This is not even the Ark itself. This is what the Ark must CARRY. I don't even think the planet Earth can contain this boat now! Anyone know the mass of Earth?? I'm not looking that one up yet. And I do stress YET! By the time we are done we might be measuring in solar masses........
Time to load up the dinosaurs!! The Mesozoic Era's turn now!!
Tyrannosaur, Allosaur, Carnisaur, Gigantosaur, Stegosaur, Triceratops, Protoceratops, Plateosaur, Spineosaur, Suchamimus, Gastonia, Ankleosaur, Brachiosaur, Coelophysis, Microraptor, Eoraptor, Velociraptor, Megaraptor, Thilizinosaur, Comptheosaur, Archeopteryx, Ornithechairus, Pteradon, Dinosuchus, Pterodactyl, Ornathilestis!! Yup!!! Load em up!!! Every dinosaur, avian reptile, ancient reptile, ancient amphibian, and primitive mammal!! Every last animal! And lets not forget the insects and seeds!!!! A few quadrillion tons?? Lets just say 100 Quadrillion!!
100,500,500,000,000,700 tons

Nope!! no food, water, people, decks, bla bla bla!! Not yet!!

By the way the mass of Earth is 5.9736 X 10^24kg
Now for the Paleozoic Era! Now I know what your gonna say and your right. Terran animals have only been on land for 315 billion years, so we get a break on this one. But don't for get plants! They have been on land for 475 billion years. Incests are there too. But a little bit less of a time than plants. And no, I'm not going to add in sea scorpions that occasionally made short scouting trips onto land. Nor am I going to add the fish that spawned in fresh water pools and then jumped back into the oceans. I honestly never counted a single fish. I didn't even slip in a guppy under your noses. This one is tough since I have limited study in this time frame. How does 250 trillion tons sound? That one may be an over estimation by 1 or 2 trillion.......
OK!! Grand total!! 100,750,500,000,000,700 tons! now for a few people, 3 decks, reinforcement beams, reinforced containment, food, water, and a few odds and ends. Lets triple that number since large animals can eat their own weight in a few months, and amphibians need a hell of a lot more water than any other animal. Also it's always better to over estimate supplies than run out. Especially for long trips......
Total now is: 302,251,500,000,002,100 tons. Now lets convert this into pounds. (# x 2000)
604,431,000,000,004,200,000 pounds!
And how long is Noah's Ark actually supposed to be? If a 18'6" boat hold 2513 pounds than Noah's Ark is........
604,431,000,000,004,200,000 divided by 2513 = 240,521,687,226,424,273.776'362'912'853'16 X 18'6" =
Noah's actual Ark should have been 4,449,651,213,688,849,064.862'713'887'7835 feet long in order to carry all animals, plants, humans, and insects and keep them alive for 7 months and 17 day.
OH! How forgetful of me!!! This is only ONE pair of each animal. NOT the required 2-7 pairs for some animals!! So this boat is NOT even it's full ACTUAL size!
Earth's Equatorial Radius: 6,378.1 km
Earth's Equatorial Circumference: 40,075.02 km
The Sun's Equatorial Radius: 6.955×10^8 m
The Sun's Equatorial Circumference: 4.379×10^9 m = 14,366,797,900,260 feet
This boat for one pair of each animal is 309,717.673 times LONGER than OUR Sun's Equatorial circumference.
1 soalr mass = 4,385,214,857,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pounds. Nope, we didn't hit 1 solar mass.
Dear God that's a lot of POOP!

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/125630-disproving-the-flood-using-math/

tamethem:
You won't understand until you are a Christian. Why? Because it takes you believing in God to understand and believe what happened.

Delusion 101.

If I.tell tell you there is nothing That is impossible for God would you believe? No!
And why?

Apparently I won't believe because there are somethings god is yet to proof to us. God is yet to grow an amputated limb.

God is yet to stop the sun from shining.
God is yet to impregnate another Mary.
God is yet to prove himself by curbing HIV and providing cures to Rabies infection.

Because you don't believe there is a God in the first place.

Cos there is none in the place.

So how would you believe someone that "doesn't exist is powerful not to talk of being able to do all things.

You guys always speak for god. Since genesis chapter zero verse 1,man has been the one talking for god.
You guys should allow this god speak for himself naw

For example I believe in the Noah story because I believe in the existence of God and I have experienced Him.

Hope you believe in the devil too cos you very as well experienced evil.

Hope you believed in FSM cos everything in the universe points to his nature?

Because I believe in Him, I believe the Bible story of Daniel in the Lions Den too.

Can we practicalise this with you?

Do you believe in Daniel's Story? No!
Because the Bible is just a fiction like you always say.

My sincere response to this part will follow ya response to the above task I tabled before you.

If He could do all that in the Lions Den He definitely could make the Lions meek and loose appetite for food for days, not the Lions alone but all the carnivorous animals in the Ark.

Seeing is believing.

Can we practicalise this with you - ie throwing you into sambisa (not even lion's den)
Moreover you people claim your god is unchangeable. He's god of yesterday, today and forever.

And about the Ark. Do you know it has been found exactly where the Bible prophesied that it landed?

On mount Ararat in Turkey

Some atheists here on NL are disputing it. But the fact remains it has been found by Archaeologists.

Like seriously? No archeological records or fossils?
Chaiiiiii

You people are gullible sha.

Anyways, there are evidence Voldermoth in Cinema.

Get the video on YouTube before saying its a lie too and make sure you watch it through.

Watch the video too, you would realise Voldermoth really existed. His carcasses where kept in Museum.

If Science therefore confirms the Ark story to be true then who are you guys to dispute a Physical Evidence that the Ark was in existence and the remnants are still here today.

An Ark of that size and magnitude found on the mountain.
Who took it there?

what technology puts something of that size there?

Ogbeni, you're just making baseless claims.

The Noah's ark is an excerpt from the Babylonian myth titled "THE GILGAMESH FLOOD"

Anyways
Educate yourself using these links below.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/125630-disproving-the-flood-using-math/

https://www.nairaland.com/3710283/noahs-ark-animals-question

https://ncse.com/cej/4/1/impossible-voyage-noahs-ark

http://www.icr.org/article/noah-flood-gilgamesh/

It is obvious that an Atheist will still be an Atheist even when he is confronted with concrete proof that negates his belief.

It's evident that people like you would forever gullible for as long as your likes believe in a TALKING SERPENT and TALKING DONKEY

If God can do all things then anything could have happened in the Noah's Ark.

Anything!

Trash

Well lemme reply to this before Joe himself responds to you.

Filmewell:
But let me ask you sir in your unbelief has there ever been a period you felt like maybe you are wrong and you want believe again.

To be honest with you, before trading the path of disbelief and irreligious route, I was pretty careful and asked myself this question. But at the end of everything, I was left with no choice other than to choose 101% disbelief.

Why? Because the more I give room for possibilites of a creator, god, supreme being etc, the more the whole possibilities keep looking fuzzy and impossible.

Many people do not have faith but still believes somehow because it costs them nothing and lose nothing.

This statement looks somehow . But lemme respond to it sha.

Anyways, it would cost them a lot because, peradventure they die and discover they very been serving a wrong god all the while they lived on earth. This equates them to us who don't believe in any.

Na so.
Change the change jare

oyatz:
And this girl that's been banged with different styles for 40mins will be somebody's future wife and mother

Lol

Daeylar:

The way things are going, Na castle dey there now. Pray for me so that I can come and join you in heaven
LMAO

moi in heaven? Doing what? God 4bid.
Im in hell jàre, flexing

Daeylar:
I don't believe in God

More sulphur to ya Apartment in hellfire

DeSepiero:
What is God?

If you don't mind, I can answer this question by the power of Holy spirit bestowed on me.


Answer: God is a cop-out term, entity, subject used by people to explain what they don't understand at that point in time.

Zither:
Smart atheist. Smarter than historians and archeologists.

Any historic evidence(s) and archeological evidence(s) of a Biblical Jesus outside the Bible? Can you present these evidences?

LoL

Epositive:
So it's safe to worship two or more deities at the same time?


Adepeter2027 will not fvcking like this thread

LoL

Wetin concern agbero with overload

Martinez19:
Ah! Why not perform miracle?

God works in mysterious ways.

Lalasticlala
Hope you ain't a thief cos this deserves front-page

LoL

You need the holy spirit.

Anyways, according to the Bible god, possibly he fed them very well such that they couldn't feel hunger pang.

Furthermore, it could be possible that the Bible god removed their stomach and killed all bacteria and inhibited all gastric enzymes in them.

Like I said, you need the holy spirit to understand the above

CC hopefulLandlord, hope I'm right o-o?

Colleverage:
Shebi he can raise dead people oya he shd perform miracle here to na
Mtchew tout

Exactly my thoughts o-o.

But scared of using satan

danvon:
In other words anyone who sees something spiritual is hallucinating, anyone who doesn't see it, is mad for believing something he can't see.

101% yes.

Symptoms of madness