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Harmony10:
Jealousy, Pride, Ego, Anger etc are all came from God. God created these emotions in all his creatures to help them when they need an extra push. Just as adrenaline which give something extra when we reach a dead end and need to escape.

In my estimation, most of these set of emotions are not meant for everyday use because of their destructive tendencies - they are really powerful. For instance I read once how anger can help a timid person speak fluently and boldly in that circumstance when he is angry. If you combine these emotions with other gifts such as Knowledge and freewill/freechoice created in us all, it make very powerful beings.

Knowledge helps us become increasing aware of any phenomenon in our world, thereby giving us more power to get more benefit from that area of knowledge. Then we also have Free Choice to use these power the way we deem fit. Freedom is a very precious gift God bestowed on all His intelligent Beings (Angels & Humans) - something other living beings can never attain to. None of us human can never desire the life of animals or plants cos they were not created with many of these gift that makes us human beings.

Having said the foregoing, what turns all these gifts from God into evil is the choice to put them to bad use. In case of lucifer, He became more aware of his position relation to God's position - knowledge. He coveted God's position and decided to put all his gift from God against God. He decided to become bad and started evil influence. He influenced a third of angels in to become demons. The truth we have freedom to make choices but what we will finally decide to do depends on both on outside influence (what we are hearing, seeing, reading etc) and inner influence (how we interpret all input into the decision making process).

Please be careful of these influences and make effort to choose right because your decisions will be judged at all have be said and done.

larryking01:
This might seem contrary, but it is the truth. No evil spirit decieved the devil or lucifer, God created him for that purpose in other to bring about God own attributes. What are these attributes God wants to be God that is why he created angles to worship him, he wants to be a saviour, healer, etc but he canot be all these except there a man created and woman to make the man fall and he needs a devil to deceive the woman in turn deceive the man. So all these were his plan and the devil fell right into it.

fhemyxXx:
so mean to say he created evil too..then we shouldn't really be blamed for not being able to resist evil,neither should we be tagged sinners,HE created sumn and wants us to desist from it,why didn't he just destroy evil itself before it corrupted lucifa's mind,so we can all live forever and happy,or doesn't HE want that? Don't tell me HE created someone in his own image and then allows the person to perish just for one silly rule he went against? Even ones parents won't let you go astray as much as they want to beat you to death for going against their rule ,not to talk of the Almighty..The thing is,there are somethings Human beings shouldn't know and I'm fvcking curious

uchennamani:
following bible's logics, the lucifer was God's own creation alongside other heavenly beings. But that logic is full of flaws and imperfections. For if we are to go along with this, it means that heaven was not a perfect place after all. Yes, and I stand to be corrected with superior arguments and facts. This esposed the nature of God's power and its neutrality. It is neither bad or good but neutral. Neutral in the sense that one could use it for something positive or negative. Lucifer used his own in a negative way. But tell any xtian that heaven is not a perfect place and he or she would tag u as a carnal being. It is not a perfect for the simple reason that his decision to go bad happened in heaven of all place

falseman:
Na wah oo. Did you read the verse I quoted for you earlier? Lucifer was still without blemishes when he was placed in the garden of Eden. Please read

Pr0ton:
Witches? I only hear of them but haven't seen any. Where people got the ideas of witch was from stories... which are just stories, fictional ones. The ones practised in real life are mere superstitions. None of them is real. If there's a witch we should see her handwork; control leaders, destroy every soul that offends her, have wealth and all. The only instance where they are active is in dreams; get hallucinated and attribute it to a spiritual force.

Why don't animals ask themselves how they got here? They are smarter than that.

falseman:
That was wrong. The rebellion happened after the creation of mankind and lucifer was placed in the garden of eden or do you think God casted lucifer out of heaven then placed him in the garden of eden?


Ezekiel 28:13-14 describe him as he originally was in the Garden of Eden:

“Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.”

Kei144:
He. 2:6 But there is a place where someone has testified: “What is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him?
He. 2:7 You made him a little [Or him for a little while] lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honour
He. 2:8 and put everything under his feet.” [Psalm 8:4-6] In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is not subject to him. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to him.

In Heb 2:7, we see that in the beginning God made man in such a way that for a little while he would be lower than the angels. After the little while, man would rise far above the angels and become exactly like God Himself.

You see..we will rise above angels,that means we have given power over angels and devils

Is. 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
Is. 14:13 You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain.
Is. 14:14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.”
''i will make myself the most High''so it means he nevee wanted to unseat God rather be like him..christ says i am in the father&the father in me&we are one..thats christ position

Apparently, shortly after God created man, Lucifer saw that the newly created man would soon become greater than him. This must have excited jealousy in him. So, he said in his heart, “I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will make myself like the Most High.”
Ge. 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman.
Ge. 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

How could Lucifer raise his throne above the stars of God (mankind)? The only way was to prevent them from rising up above the angels and making them to fall. So, Lucifer went to work. He lied to mankind that the way to rise to the level of God was by rebelling against God’s word. Even though God had earlier warned mankind against receiving the fruit of Satan that leads to death, they still went ahead and accepted the supposed wisdom (or fruit) of Satan and fell.

https://www.nairaland.com/2015171/purpose-jesus-mission-earth

MadCow1:
It indeed is that simple...

But does not make it right.

Any sane man would hear both sides of the story before making a judgement.. But in Christianity the case is different.

That is why I have chosen to stay neutral in this matter.. God who ordered the Israelis not to kill also ordered them to wipe out the Canaanites in the same book of Exodus. Infact, the journey of the Israelis from Egypt to Canaan was riddled with killings.

God killed more people in the Bible than Lucifer yet the bible let's us to believe that Lucifer is the bad guy..


Gods word is indeed Law..

falseman:
What are you talking about? What was the purpose of Christ on earth? If your answer is to wash away our sins then you are wrong with your assumption. Lucifer can't be jealous of Christ when he wasn't in existence. By the way did the rebellion of lucifer occur before or after the creation of mankind?
If you answer that correctly you will understand what made lucifer jealous and it has nothing to do with Christ.

brainiac007:
Haven't you heard? He who makes the rules dictates the tunes.

falseman:
Sorry you got it wrong. Satan was jealous of the dominion God gave man after creation and he wanted to have dominion over us rather than serving us thus he deceived Eve and she fell for his trap. His rebellion against God was about pride and jealous and believe me he got what he wanted despite losing his place in heaven. Today he is the ruler of this world.

emmyrichie:
According to the tale, until a certain point, the devil (Lucifer) was a devoted angel.

My question is, where did the spirit that polluted the creature (Satan) emanate from?

DoubleFaith:
*Modified*
...one is forced to stay awake?

koife:
Yes I droped my cv

goofyone:
Hey, come on! I understand. Not trying in any way to say you didn't or haven't done a good job. Easy now.
Just offering another insight into a solution.
Thanks anyways. And sorry if I came off as rude.

Ezedon:
.i don't like taking tea cus I always feel like vomiting each time I took it