Stylekay:


Honestly I have lost reasons on why I should continue to stay alive. I can't continue again except there's an intervention in form of help that should come my way. It's unfortunate but I can't continue like this again.

Guy, please don't do this.

What skill do you have? What did you study? Send me an email.

RTSC:

Everybody deserves a second chance.

An international scholarship is not a second chance. It's a reward.


I know a girl studying Electrical Engineering at a federal university.
She is on a consistent 5.0. She is in 300 level right now and has never gotten a B, ever.

She is also a devoted church worker.

If you need her contacts, I can give you so that we can give her a scholarship.

Hi

I definitely need her contact, definitely. We will work wonders in her life with God's help.

5.0 engineering?? 300 level?? No, just ask her to email us -- info@baumtenpers.com sharply.

BeeBeeOoh:
That's a lie, Mustapha Chike-Obi is the son of a great mathematician, "Chike Obi from Onitsha. All his kids has an Hausa or Yoruba name

This is correct - Yoruba and Hausa names all his kids have. Prof Obi was a detribalized man in a Nigeria that was heavily tribal in those days.

SLAP44:
What kind of hybrid name is that?

In case nobody has responded, let me respond.

His father, Professor Chike Obi, professor of mathematics Unilag and Nigeria's first PhD math holder from UCL or Cambridge, I forget now, was a deeply de-tribalized man (unlike the rubbish we see these days). He took it as a responsibility to name his kids names that reflect Nigeria, not necessarily tribe. This is why this dude, prof's son, has that first name. This dude, former AMCON oga, was himself a top math student at unilag, graduating among tops from unilag's math department decades ago. But he went the business line, didn't do higher level math like the dad

His father - Prof Obi -, Prof Olubummo and Prof Ezeilo were the earliest Nigerian mathematicians to bring fame to Nigeria in mathematics through their contributions. Chike Obi especially solved some "barbaric" equations and provided some elegant proofs to deep math conjectures and theorems. His work is still known in the math community globally. He was perhaps the first to earn a PhD in SSA..Perhaps sha, not too sure.

I don't know where it all went wrong with our mathematics in Nigeria, but I think things are now improving sha. Unilag has one wizkid that I think would walk in the shoes of these babas in the future. We need to support math education. I am rambling now, lol...But I am sure I have made a point sha.

Hannania:
Hello folks, nice posts and reviews so far.
Please does anybody have an idea about RWTH Aachen university? Its my dream uni for MSC and possibly PHD( USA is first choice though).

I plan to write the GRE with a threshold of 320+. Please for residents aboard in Germany and more specifically Aachen, please do throw light on this.

Do German schools now generally ask for GRE?

Swealy:
I have a very close friend who just graduated from the University with a first class in economics 2019
He is in a dilemma now he asked me if
he should settle for a career in Nigeria
Get his ICAN & ACCA, masters degree also PhD and settle down in Nigeria
Or Take his GRE AND TOEFL EXAMS as a means to travel abroad find a university there start life and hustle
He is just 20 years old
Should he focus his resources and time on finding a way out of Nigeria or settle in his mother's land
Please I need my people's advise
My elders what are your opinions

I agree with those who say he should take the GRE and co and waka. He can get PhD econ straight with his undergrad.

Tell your friend to reach out to us and send his information to us - http://baumtenpers.com/

Gerrard59:
One study I'll be glad to read or even sponsor when the money is available is the number of first class graduates whose JAMB scores are above 300 and vice versa. Another will be to check their current careers' projections. This will be important to link the correlation (if there is) between a high JAMB score and the likelihood to attain first class. This is important because the first class graduates I've come across never scored 300 in JAMB. One even had 180+ yet finished as the best graduating from his faculty.

The future is interesting.

Cc: Admitwithschola

Indeed, this will be an interesting study to perform. I once ruminated about this but dropped the idea because I feared data would be wahala.

However, if data can be gotten, then for sure we have an army of RAs in Nigeria that can support with the research. It's an interesting research...

My hunch though is that we lose such > 300 guys to outside countries, so many don't graduate, and some lose steam and get 2:1. As such, majority of the first class honours guys and girls didn't make >300 in JAMB. This is just my guesswork. Only proper research can answer this question.

PS: I personally trust >300 of the computer testing era than the era of paper testing plagued with special centre pathogens. In the late 90's and beyond, people used to see JAMB questions before exam day. Salim tried to remedy that in year 2000 by introducing types and making questions harder. That year, many people were caught unawares and suffered as a result. But that year gave rise to one Bosun who made a name for him by blasting JAMB, 347.

Brothers/sisters - sorry, I am not scaring you away. No oo, that's not the aim.

I just want you to view the GRE as an enemy trying to hold you back. What do you do to an enemy? You fight it! Fight with all you have. MFM uses the word fire, die die.

Please go all out...And speak to people who have 'owned' these tests. Also visit Indian and especially Chinese forums too. These guys must be doing something....

iWise:


For someone who's trying really hard to use statistical terms, you sure did shit the bed on this one. How can you assert that Nigerians score below average in an exam? What is the definition of average? If you're thinking what i am thinking, I guess the more appropriate phrase would be Nigerians on average score below standard.

Lol, bros, I think he meant average as in average, mean. Add all scores and divide by number of scores. Na so Okpala teach us for secondary school.

See it here (though a bit dated) - GMAT is bloody ..https://www.businessbecause.com/news/gmat/4191/mba-admissions-what-is-africas-problem-with-the-gmat


"The global average GMAT score in 2015 was 554 (out of a possible 800). In Africa, it’s 450. In Nigeria, 415. Ron puts much of this down to African students’ educational history.".....

Naija average is not only less than global average, it is less than Africa's average, by a whopping 35! Hope this is wrong sha, just hope this is wrong.

kastgeraldino:
There's no point arguing with folks who use the sample size of their elite friends as the norm. You're absolutely right. My GRE was 330+ (converted from old scale) and I had 740+ on GMAT, but I know full well that most Nigerians find those exams very challenging. So it will be foolhardy of me to say Nigerians perform well as a whole. The average GMAT score for Nigerians is far below average compared to the rest of the world, and this statistic is from GMAC. I saw it some years ago. Don't waste your time arguing. It's the same way some people say that there is money in Nigeria or that Nigerians are rich.

Good to hear someone else corroborating this fact. I just wanted to bring the awareness here and urge our people to actually go all out to do their best, and not think the exam is just math and english.

But oh boy, wow, no be here you be oo. 740+ GMAT! Well done

Nostradamus1:
What of the SAT nkor

Sorry, we don't do undergrad.

Please go through our website. We're more grad school focused.

greenskittles:


Wow, I'll share your GRE offer with my friends, this is a really nice thing for you to do. I hope someday I can be able to donate to this cause too.

Yes, not me, it's a group of Africans, which I belong.

To reiterate, 335+ for full refund

Effective for GRE taken in August and beyond.

This is our own small way of attempting to lift up Naija's average. It's currently somehow.

iWise:


You're making the unsubstantiated claim that the majority of Nigerians who write the GRE are members of nairaland and also report their scores on nairaland.

Modification: I just went through the report for 2014. If it's anything to go by, scoring 320+ is rather unusual for all countries whose citizens wrote the GRE so by implication unusual for Nigeria. I concede you have a point. I think its also fair to state that your point is rather trivial given that all countries represented in the report had an average score less than 320.

No need trivializing the point. Concede is concede. It is a FACT, and I'm happy you conceded. This is good for intellectual debate.

But I think you also have a VERY GOOD point. You also stated a FACT, which none of my points contradicts, that 320+ is an unusual score in the GRE test for all countries. However, this is likely MORE SO for Nigerians as we are farther from this mark than some other countries - Chinese for example.

Let's say the truth, this will save us when we know the problem and try to solve it. I am not here to knock down anybody, no need doing solidarity against someone opening the reality on ground. We are all here to encourage those still at the GRE level and help them be aware and do their best.

Friedpotato:
I know what SAT and GRE is.

You've been making unnecessary generalized conclusions from the very little data you can access. A lot of Nigerians score 320+ they just don't come on nairaland to shout it.

Also how are you sure that no one gets into all the Ivy leagues? If it happens for undergraduates, definitely it happens for graduates. I don't know how you got to know about the application of the whole kit and caboodle of persons applying for GRE that you said with CERTAINTY that know one gets into all.

Please stop making hasty generalizations from limited data.

I can't make generalizations - stop that. I'm not one of those that just open mouth and talk. If you want to believe what you believe, fine. Do that. But don't ever come and accuse me of generalizations because you don't even have an idea of anything about me other than what you see here.

If you read carefully, you should see from my writing that I kept saying ETS does the average analysis. Yes, averages skew things (median is more robust), but it nonetheless provides good information.

On average, Nigerians are generally doing badly on these tests (GMAT and GRE). This is why our average is where they are. Are some doing well, yes a few are doing well. But most are doing not so well, and certainly not at the 320+ level.

I am sad I have to be saying this, I don't want to knock off anyone's hustle, I want to help...But I must say it, because it's the data which ETS provides, and has nothing to do with my view.

So, stop accusing of generalizations, you know nix about me. Focus on the data and provide intelligent debates with data. Then we can both reach a reasoned conclusion.

Data reproduced here -

https://www.ets.org/s/gre/pdf/snapshot_test_taker_data_2018.pdf

Funaki:


320+ isn't unusual. It depends on your field and schools you're targeting. All my 4 friends that we wrote last year scored 320+. If you want to apply to a 2nd tier engineering school (Georgia tech, UIUC, Purdue etc), you need at least 320 to be in safe zone.

I'm not surprised by your account, which can be correct. As is clear from my previous posts, engineering boys and medical boys do relatively better on this test. If you read my previous epistles, that should be clear to you - so there won't be a need to repeat same point. Your friends fall into the elite group of Nigerians, but you understandably can't use them as a reflection of the state of GRE (and GMAT) in Africa (Nigeria in this case).

I think it's better to provide solid data than give anecdotal evidence (i.e. my friends got this, your friend got that). So, instead of relying on anecdotal evidence of 4 or even 10 people, maybe I will put the stats here for all to see.

https://www.prepscholar.com/gre/blog/average-gre-scores/
https://www.ets.org/s/gre/pdf/snapshot_test_taker_data_2018.pdf

Do Ctrl+F + Nigeria, Ghana, etc, it's sad all round.

So, there is more evidence that, in general, 320+ is more unusual than otherwise. If you have a solid argument that shows counters this, I am happy to hear. Of course, averages do not tell all the story and if we control for fields, then the score may be much less unusual for engineering (and medical guys if they choose to do it) - as is clear from my previous posts. Still, we can only know this if we know how engineering boys/girls perform in aggregate.

And by the way, if you have friends who are writing in August and beyond, we are offering full GRE refund to anyone who scores 335+. This is our little way to try to encourage the few people that we can and hopefully take Nigeria's average GRE score from the current embarrassing level to something more respectable. So since all the people you know are scoring at these levels, maybe you can have them reach out to us with scores from August and beyond - http://baumtenpers.com/

So, to summarize, while it is possible that a score of 320+ is less unusual for an engineering (and medical) grad in Nigeria, the data from ETS shows that a score of 320+ in Nigeria is not a usual score. If anyone disagrees, please debate with real data, not anecdotal evidence. Note, I am not trying to knock down your 'hozu', I am just trying to create awareness and urge those taking the tests to really put in hours and do their best and blast high scores. The situation is even much worse for GMAT, but that's an issue for another day.

Friedpotato:
I've seen alot of strong profiles accepted every where o, but it's mostly for undergraduates. Person go apply go all the Ivy leagues get full rides to all of them.

Please we are not talking undergraduate here. GRE is for MS/PhD. SAT is for undergraduates - AB/BS/BSc.

Or what are you particularly saying?

Time2win:


Correct! only lazy nigerian youths say that

You just a joke. Some of you are just I don't know what to say.

You guys don't know what is happening. Keep remaining ignorant, calling someone you have no idea about a lazy Nigerian youth.

Go look the ETS country comparison let's see who is the lazy youth here

iWise:


There is nothing unusual about a 320+ GRE score for a Nigerian.

It is unusual (less so for engineering and medical guys/girls, but more unusual for others). I believe you smart enough, so I will be objective with you.


First, go through this whole thread. Tell us how many Nigerians have 320+ in GRE. If you say there is nothing unusual, then your answer should be around 10% or more.

Go and look at ETS GRE analysis, historical analysis of GRE scores by country. The mean and standard deviation will tell you something. Compare that to China and other countries, then throw away pride and come back here to report to those who seem to be ignorant of this.

To reiterate, based on past scores, it is unusual to see a Nigerian score 320+. Yes, we always want to claim we sabi, but this is a sad part that we need to acknowledge and improve on. By Nigerian, I mean Nigerian who did primary, secondary and university in Nigeria. I don't mean outside of Nigeria as I know several who did undergrad education in the US and have no problem smashing GRE.

Tulacious123:
Good afternoon all.Please I need GRE and TOFLE materials to study pending when I register for the exam. kejuempower@gmail.com . Thanks in anticipation to your positive response.

Search for an email connected to me and send me an email, not nairaland inbox oo. I will link you to people that can provide TOEFL material.

GRE, you can get a lot of that here.

Make sure you prepare hard and long for the GRE, so that you can master-blast it. We want all Nigerians taking this test to bring us pride oo, aim 170/170/6

iwriterng:


Lol � you’ve not seen lots of profile then �

I think he is right. If you randomly select a Nigerian, or African (apart from Ethiopia and South Africa and the North Africans), the probability that he will score 140+/140+ is at least 50%. Go look ETS statistics. Even English that is supposed to be our near native language, somehow our verbal and AWA scores are lower on average than those of France and German, countries that don't have any English language history.

So, again, I am happy to see people are getting close to and even over 160. I am just hoping our average changes soon as more people blast this vermin test.

henrye27:
Menh... dude @stanford guy... you’re bad ooo. You’re the only person I have seen with a GRE score higher than mine. I’m not saying there are no other person with a high score. But I duff my capito. My GRE is 314. Q= 159, V= 155, AWA= 4.0. Ielts =Listening 9.0, writing 6.0�, Reading 6.0, Speaking 7.0. Total band score : 7.0. I got an admission with a scholarship offer of up to $10k which automatically Qualify me for a instate tuition. And other scholarship awaits me upon arrival and Also a TA job. I can’t imagine paying $76k per year For tuition. I’m glad I have to just pay less than $25k. Emergency Interview already booked. Waiting for an approved date and time for my interview. I pray the VO act right.

Congrats. This is good. Your GRE score is nice. The < $25K, you will comfortably cover that, even with scholarship if you look well. Congrats again. You guys are doing well.

Meanwhile, you are right about the @stanford dude. But in general, engineering and medical guys will smash GRE if they catch it. The high scores come from them. Nonetheless, I have noticed that if any averagely intelligent person prepares fire, like 15 hours per day for like 3 months, they too will smash the GRE.

I am really happy to see you guys are upping the game. I usually shame when her them say our average is 140+/140+. I hate that.

EgunMogaji2:


As a father of five children born in the USA and an Uncle to about 20, allow me to tell you that the fastest way to insanity is to try and raise those born there with 100% Nigerian ideals.

Personally, I have no issues with LGBT but realize that I lived there for over 3 decades.

OK Sir - though nothing on earth can be 100%, besides academic grades of course, and even that is rare. To each his own.

MOnkeyBabe:
this SOmaDinA sef lol

Aunty, wetin be somadina?

EgunMogaji2:


Most of what is written is true. My first daughter went to Stanford on a full scholarship. A seriously studious girl. Didn't get her genes form me because Baba na escape artist from scholastic activities

Some other points.

A shockingly high number turn to LGBT. There's nothing wrong with that. Divorce rate, single motherism is also rampant.

Quite a bit come top Nigeria to volunteer in health and education sector.

Sir, you mean many of our girls turn LGBT? For this life? I'm sure you won't argue that that is "very alien" to us. I wonder if their parents also think all is well with that. And I wonder if Nigerian parents have started embracing that because it will be shocking.

Congrats on your daughter. Stanford no be here.

greenskittles:


Haha, with this information people that know me irl might be able to figure out who I am

Undergraduate institution: Afe Babalola University, Ado-Ekiti

Secondary School: Obafemi Awolow University International School

I wasn't as serious as I became while in the University (where I actually became passionate about what I was studying) but my WAEC was A1 math, B2 Physics, and B3 in the rest. JAMB/UTME was 262. And no, I didn't take SAT, again as at the time I graduated secondary school I didn't really have a clear picture of what I wanted.

Nice bro, congrats. I am personally impressed. When you come to Stanford, let me know, so I can connect you to Naija and Kenya guys already on ground. There are like 4 naijans in your faculty there, one girl in energy resource engineering, others in elect, mech, etc. Also, we have a top research professor (naija man) in engineering. I strongly believe the naija presence over there in engineering is because of the reputation of this naija prof.

These schools are almost impossible to enter and top grades are not enough - but you did it. Congrats again. Reach out!

learner007:



This is a jaw dropper! Congrats bro. It is sha funny how a smaller school will reject you, and their 'senior boss' will accept you. Northwestern don commit Type I error

Lol. Not necessarily type I..Some of these things can be random sometimes. A strong profile often does not get accepted everywhere, I have not seen. One must to reject. This guy did well, his hit rate is so good, just one rejection.

@stanford guy, would you also mind explaining how you owned the GRE? 320+ is unusual for a Nigerian, even those with impressive GPA

greenskittles:


GRE: 166Q 162V 4.5AWA
TOEFL: 112/120 (27 Speaking 29 Listening 28 Reading 28 Writing)
Undergraduate GPA: (4.69/5.0)
Other awards: Best Graduating Student in Civil Engineering (Stanford asked for my performance relative to my peers, if available)
Extra Curricular activities: Chess Team captain
LORs: One from Deputy Provost, One from another Civil Lecturer (PhD holder), One from industry mentor
Other Skills: C++, MATLAB and Python programming
Work Experience: 1 year
Research Experience: Next to none (other than final year project)

Accepted: Stanford University(with funding), UIUC (with funding), University of Washington, University of Arizona
Rejected: Northwestern University

Guy, sorry for probing too much on your wondrous achievement, but I wanted to ask: please give an idea of the university you attended, also what about your secondary school? Public, private or federal? Did you ever take SAT? Were your WAEC and JAMB math high scores? e.g. A1 waec and >75 jamb?

greenskittles:


GRE: 166Q 162V 4.5AWA
TOEFL: 112/120 (27 Speaking 29 Listening 28 Reading 28 Writing)
Undergraduate GPA: (4.69/5.0)
Other awards: Best Graduating Student in Civil Engineering (Stanford asked for my performance relative to my peers, if available)
Extra Curricular activities: Chess Team captain
LORs: One from Deputy Provost, One from another Civil Lecturer (PhD holder), One from industry mentor
Other Skills: C++, MATLAB and Python programming
Work Experience: 1 year
Research Experience: Next to none (other than final year project)

Accepted: Stanford University(with funding), UIUC (with funding), University of Washington, University of Arizona
Rejected: Northwestern University

Congratulations! One of the very few people to smash GRE!

Our engineering boys are strong!

smallsmall:


You said it all, with the bolded part of your post!
See ehn, l can cook more than my wife sef because l was raised cooking, by my Mum, right from when l was taller than the Stove!
And l just dont dump and mix ingredients, l have delved into the "Science of why some food taste better than others" and believe me, as good as my wife can cook, she admits that eating what l cook occassionally, makes her day!

But God forbid she says to me "If you can cook yourself, then you are not eating in this house" or l wake up and say to her "You have to add your own half to Children's Tuition".

We both have our roles in that house but th eother person can assist in your role, strictly by Choice.
I cook anytime l want to or have the time and l enjoy doing it during those times. As a DIY person, l like doing house chores (I can practically repair anything in the house, though l spoiled a few in the process, during my learning curve ) but it will really, really break the relationship if my wife ever insists l do something in the house! The operative word here is "INSISTS".

What l have come to understand is that the Women that enjoy marriage, are not necessarily th eones that have chains of degrees or earn $500,000 or have very long nails with tatoos all over their body, they are the women who know how to allow their husband take care of them, without insisting or pushing it as A DUTY.
If you love a woman/wife, you will do anything for her but how can you love a woman who has turned herself into a COMPETITOR in the family home? E nor dey work o.

Spot on. I think some wise women know this.

ogbonti:


well, I dated two Nigerian girls before I got married in America and had the opportunity to see how they roll - I hear their friends discuss and I see what they put Nigerian guys through - That is not enough to conclude you may say, but having heard the stories of most Nigerian guys first hand (not just what is on the internet, but people you actually know either as close friends, acquaintances, colleagues or church members) who traveled that path and got scre wed in the process, one is tempted to generalize - when the preponderance of the numbers of victims who cry out in regret are significantly more than those who pretend that all is well

An American girl is not swayed by you attending Harvard or having a 6 figure job - or you looking a certain way or what their parents think about you. IF you guys click - and you act right in the relationship (which is not really much) you can have a happy home even if you ride a 2002 Toyota Camry or 2021 Mercedez Benz 4matic =

NOT SO WITH THE NAIJA GIRL - my brother, you have to experience it to know it- Females are not angels but you can tell if an American girl is into you but a naija girl will fake it because you make 6 figures working at Exxon Mobil so what happens when there is downsizing and you now make a quarter of what you use to make? THE LOVE IS OVER AND THE DRAMA STARTS UNTIL SHE FVCKS UP YOUR LIFE - just pray she is not earning more than you - her friends and family will do you shege to your face until you lose your mind -

Just read what the OP said about - you must up your game, so what happens when adversity strikes? think about it

BE GUIDED OOOO - a word is enough for the wise!

My brother, thanks for sharing your perspective. This is strange.

ogbonti:
want to live long ? - avoid Nigerian females in AMERICA - they are the most repulsive and recalcitrant sets of humans on the face of the earth!!!

All those who were born here to Nigerian parents and most who came here as adults ARE ALMOST the same in their character

REASON - they will always put you on edge and you will never have peace of mind - because of their unrealistic standards they set for themselves

someone is always gonna be ahead of you in your career and education - so when that person indicates interest in them - you are toast!

I did not leave Nigeria to come to America to continue the senseless pressure society placed on us back home in Africa.

That is why I am married to an American and I am successful and I am not living my life - competing with anyone or trying to live up to anyone


I REPEAT - IF YOU WANT TO BE ON HYPERTENSION MEDICATION FOREVER - DATE AND MARRY A NIGERIAN IN AMERICA - AND YOUR ROOM WILL BE RESERVED IN THE FUTURE CLOSE TO HUSHPUPPI'S ROOM IN THE AMERICAN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM

It is this desire to measure up to some crazy standards of the OP that has made some Nigerians delve into the world of crime!



Be guided, be wise!!!!

Chief, na wah oo. This your account is depressing oo. Are the ones you have seen that bad? Do they show this bad attitude during courtship? So you think guys see all these red signs but still go and marry these people?