Ibime: Banega can point to sustained achievements and sustained controlling of midfield. If Riquelme was strolling in midfield with old man Mascherano, maybe na 5-0 Argentina for don dey collect this world cup.
The last time Riquelme strolled on and off a pitch in a World Cup he was leading Germany IN Germany after creating the assist for the goal. If Messi had Riquelme he would not need to play 10 as well as 9, it is really hard for a player to pass to himself on a consistent basis.
A40: Riquelme had a relatively short prime in Europe maybe 2 seasons or less, I think he balled more for Argentina than at club level
He stayed for too long at Argentina. Had he come to Europe at a younger age the European aspects of the game would have been a lot easier for him to imbibe. In terms of naturally gifted talent I'd even say he was better than Mendieta but he didn't come to Europe in time.
I also think that generation of Argentine players were mental midgets Aimar, Saviola, Riquelme
On your first 2 points i think you are spot on. In terms of the Argentine players, i think they have had an unusual run of bad luck in terms of coaching and the final make up of the squad and in some ways it even extends to today.
Take for example the 2002 team in which the coach persisted in playing through an aged Batistuta when you had younger players like Claudio Lopez, Kily Gonzales and Crespo in the squad. Then he also went picked an unbalanced squad with 4 or 5 playmakers (Ortega, Veron, Gallardo, Aimar) to the world cup cos they were the best players.
In 2006 the coach inexplicably took out Riquelme and Crespo in a match they were leading against Germany and left Messi on the bench and you know what happened next. That was a case of the coach blowing it, not the players.
2010 world cup was wasted by taking an alcoholic and junkie coach in Maradona who wasted a slot on the team on his aged Boca drinking companion Martin Palermo.
As an aside, do you notice how Argentina had too many playmakers about 15yrs ago and not enough strikers while now they have too many strikers and no playmakers.
raumdeuter: No this is not Riquelme, the only thing he could do was pass, he could barely move, mostly strolling round the field, He cant defend anything. He had to be catered to severely to function and his output wasn't worth the effort.
I even think Pablo Aimar was a better playmaker than him
Aimar was another good one, sadly derailed by injuries. Totally different styles, Aimar more of an on-the-run dribbler and with far more pace and work rate than Riquelme. Riquelme was stronger, had better vision, was a better passer and much better shooting technique. Riquelme could control the tempo of the game better than Aimar.......yet the argument could go either way (but right this moment i am thinking Riquelme edges it).
raumdeuter: Riquelme was better than Gago, But I think he was in the ball park of Valeron and Guti. Definitely below Rui Costa
I won't argue this too far, it was that Gago talk that scattered my dada. If you say in descending order Rui Costa, Riquelme, Valeron and Guti, then Gago WAY below them i won't debate it.
And you are right Riquelme couldn't defend and he was a stroller, but what a majestic stroller. I can just picture him with his bent posture, ambling around the pitch in a relaxed and arrogant manner.
Ibime: I stand corrected, however in his glory years, Depor was a regular top 2 or top 3 team and regular UCL QF and Semi-finalist.
I only saw Riquelme in those stages in 2006.
Depor was a perennially good side long before Valeron got there (and even won the league before him) right from the days of Bebeto, Naybet, Fran, Donato, Mauro Silva and even when Valeron got there Tristan, Makaay and others contributed a great deal.
Not saying Valeron wasn't good but dismissively saying he was better than Riquelme and rating Riquleme at the level of Gago is what i found blasphemous. You probably didn't watch enough of Riquelme, Messi would do human sacrifice if he could get a young Riquelme in this Argentine squad.
How the hell was Conte even allowed to keep taking preseason training sessions?
At least, they could have put him on gardening leave To avoid confusion.
I'm sure the boys would still have been doing only fitness work last week sha. it would have been an even mess if Conte was already taking tactical session .
Thankfully, Conte has been put out of his misery now. We just await the announcement of Sarri
They gave him double the embarrassment he gave Costa. The wig wearing bonobo dey train boys wey Sarri go use, almost like toasting babe and buying condom for another guy to kpan am.
Riquelme was one of the most artistic playmakers of the modern era and he could be effective too. He was a classical no 10 but was lacking in work rate and speed but 1st touch, close control dribbling, vision, passing range and selection, crossing and long range shooting were all world class.
He was just one of the players whose Barca careers Van Gaal derailed because of his (Van Gaal’s) stubbornness.
He never wanted him in the club and therefore rarely played him and when he did he played him out of position.
Stylistically he was like Valeron but better than Valeron. Talent level was at par with Mendietta.
Comparing him to Guti and especially Gago is laughable.
olabode89: Izzy has got a very good chance of becoming the Middleweight champ by 2019. He showed tremendous improvement with his wrestling defence and clinch game. My only problem is with his lack of genuine KO power. He relies on excellent technique and accumulation of damage, which is not s bad thing. Against freaks and beasts like Paolo Costa and Yoel Romero, one punch can put Israel to sleep.
I am so happy with the success of Israel and Kamaru Usman in the UFC. Hopefully Mohammed Usman (Kamaru's bro) can make It to the UFC next year. I won't be surprise if an event is held in Nigeria or SA soon. It would have happened sooner if Ngannou had lived up to the hype.
Did you guys see the snooze fest Ngannou and Derrick Lewis delivered last night... Lmao! STIPE pounded the fear of God into Ngannou. Dude was having PTSD shiit in the octagon.
You nailed it right on the head. Classic PTSD, the guy came into the fight just to avoid getting hit. Even when he threw a couple of feeble punches he threw them while running backwards. It was a disgrace and doubly so with him being an African.
Btw where is olabode89 and other UFC people. Hands up if you saw Cormier KOing Miocic. I don't know if I've ever seen a bigger upset in UFC Heavyweight history
That is the biggest upset i have seen. But with the benefit of hindsight i am not sure we should have been so shocked, Cormier has dominated practically everyone he has ever faced not named Jon Jones in both light heavyweight and heavyweight classes.
Lana1: I don forget the guy name. But he had two accounts. He was trying to bet that time say Chelsea go make it past Ro16 by beating Barca. If i find the post, i go tag you!
Hehehehehe! I remember the case now. Some mothers do have them. What about the one that was possessed, and was begging demons to leave him on NL?
Some people are just useless walahi, the amount of leather God used to make skin for them he could have jejely given Ferragamo or Ermenegildo Zegna to make better shoe.
Diggz you are not entirely wrong, but it appears that you are taking this issue too personal. Most people here hate scammers and cheats also and Nihilist, Ibime, and even i have advised the guy to do the right thing, but you don't see us fixated on it the way you are.
It is no coincidence that airmark who had a long running beef with coogar was the one most on his case from this sports thread and you with your recent wars with funlord are the one most on his case from here.
Many of us have spoken against what he did, but we all know the reason for your extra focus on this case. To paraphrase Nihilist, after toto (preferably Latina or Middle Eastern, or last last Caribbean), revenge is the next sweetest thing.
Lana1: Lol. Must every single person give an opinion about the matter??
In case u don't know, some of us like taking the quiet and lowkey route. No be to dey make noise up and down.
Go back to the coogar incident and u'll see its the same set of people who kept quiet then that are still keeping quiet now. And its the same set of people making noise then that are still making noise.
Na here we dey when one Chelsea dude was found out hee to be lying about having cars and been a big boy last season. Those of us wey keep quiet, kept quiet because....wetin be our business.
Keep fighting and shouting all over NL. Defender of the defenceless!! Spartacus!!
Season 3 of the Emmy award winning series “THIEVES”.
Reminds me of George Orwell, all animals are equal but some are more equal than others. In this case it seems to me that all the parties are thieves but some are more thieving than others.
Lana1: Yes. Mourinho didn't give any of them a chance. And its because he didn't want them that Salah, Lukaku and KDB were eventually sold.
We can blame him for Lukaku and KDB. But i dont think he was entirely culpable for selling Salah. No be Mourinho tell Chelsea to put "option to purchase at any point during the season" in Salah's loan contract to Roma. Besides why didn't the club try to fight off Roma after Mourinho was sacked?
Chelsea have a notorious disposition of loaning/selling players they dont want... Zouma, Challobah, Musonda, Ake, RLC, Tammy Abraham, etc.... Should we also blame these on Mourinho or the club??
If they left the club during Mourinho's tenure and became world class within 1-2yrs of leaving, then yes. If multiple guys blow within 1-2 yrs of you sending them away then one has to doubt your ability to judge talent and possibly even more worryingly, your ability to utilize talent appropriately.
Don’t forget Salah. Imagine a club with Hazad on the left and Salah on the right with KDB playing behind Lukaku centrally. FIFA for ban them from playing counter-attack. JM get myopia and he has no one to tell him.
Funlord, you have to realize that your recalcitrant and apparent insensitive attitude in this case might cause almost as much harm to your business as those posts you want deleted. You are a businessman, so i am sure you understand the importance of good customer relations. Your objective now should be to look for ways to resolve the conflict and ensure a satisfactory conclusion for your clients.
I think you should 1) Pay the 300k yet to be refunded 2) Contact Rare your direct connect to refund dowjones the 700k earlier returned.
Rare and her friend Patience who are also directly linked should sort themselves out.
When things go awry in business with your clients you should not only try your best to resolve the problem peacefully, you should be SEEN to be trying your best to resolve it peacefully.