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LOL! Afeni! Thank you for being here, my friend.

Well, if I were Christian, I would shoot myself in shame. So, I won't actually get to the position of choosing between a Muslim or White Garment partner.

LOL! LOL! LOL!
Afeni, my man, please tell me -- you're some "alawada," jester or comic? But, for real, I'm enjoying you. Haba!

Did Ahmadinejad justify his actions by any Qur'anic suras? This is the bone of contention. Our man in Georgia willfully deviated from the subject.

mrlawng is a crusading fool.

@ Idekeson,
LOL! For real, why is it that you crusaders love to dish out insults, woes, death and what have you but, obviously, don't want the same done to you? Insulting the Muslims and their Prophet, killing their stone-throwing youths, denying their nations of every human right and, when they dare talk, you start calling them "millitants" and "terrorists"? Why? Please, can one crusader just tell me the reason?

mrlawng,
As long as you stop your open blasphemy and ferocious hatred of the al-Qur'an and Prophet Muhammad. If you desist not I'll continue hitting you hard. Even harder.

@ idekeson,
I don't understand what you're talking about. If you could go back in history, you'll see that your sires in christendom have enjoyed a free ride of open hostility toward Islam. I know you don't like a knowledgeable Muslim who can face you shoulder to shoulder.

Christians and Muslims should take over Jerusalem and divide it among themselves for the coming of their Messiahs, since Jews believe in neither.

That's why Ahmadinejad said they should move back to Europe.

I bet he tries to justify it with the quran.

mrlawng,
You're the autistic slowpoke here! Where is the Qur'anic justification in the game of death that both George Bush and Mahmud Ahmadinejad are playing? Didn't your cluttered eyes see what I wrote? Here: "He and other neo-con looneys have said that they wanted to rid Jerusalem of the Muslims, so Jesus could come -- they believe the delay in the Coming is due to the fact that the Muslims occupy Jerusalem. On the other hand, Ahmadinejad believes that he needs to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, so that the "hidden" Imam Mahdi can come back. The Shiites believe that the Imam is the one that will cleanse the world of all evils before Prophet Yisa/Issa's arrival." Look well, fool!

@ idekeson,
Yeah, right. I know you and your Western "crying baby" crusaders would like to see more beaten, down-trodden, and silly Muslims that you could push around at will. Some of us are sent here by Allah as the vanguards of our Deen. And we shall not relent on our efforts, so you crusaders can call us whatever you want, it's all good.

[America must], tell North Korea to cut down its weapons or face war, and then thereafter Iran can follow.

Are you kidding? Why do you think Bush has kept his mouth shut over North Korea? Fear! My friend, these people are ordinary "paper tigers" and "chicken hawks." They can only bully smaller nations with no defense. Since the strong man of Korea tacitly admitted to having The Bomb, the bully has found a much weaker nation to prey upon. We understand the geopolitics of this world. Don't you come here and tell us how a country is so evil because of its own style of "democracy."

We are not allowed in Saudi to preach our Gospel as it pleases us, yet an image of Muhammad is on the Supreme Court building in America

Not until we are allowed to build mosques and preach for fathers and nuns inside the Papal's crib.

Why should you compare Saudi Arabia to America? That's crazy. Well it's not your fault -- those perverted princes and their greedy monarch in Saudi have not helped the matter either. I don't care if fewer than 900 people are living in the Vatican; nonetheless, it is highly regarded as a religious hub. That's the way Saudi Arabia should be: a haven of religion, puritanically speaking. And not a place where the perverts from the West would go with their swine, liquour, and prostitutes. I personally would like to see a more conservative Saudi Arabia -- not the one that falls for the pomps of this world.

This is what pissed me off about the world one sided justice. The iran president is better off a bad man than President Bush. He is the worst of it. But the world would rather not say anything about the most powerful man in the world, but the oppressed leader. What do we call the happenings in Iraq today? nearly everyday, people are dying, perhaps that is very normal. Meanwhile, if a bomb goes off say in any US state or UK, the whole world will turn into chaos. I beg to differ. Iran has the right to have a nuclear weapon if they so desire, so long as other countries possess same.  If they don't want any other country to possess nuclear weapon, let all nations destroy her own, afterall it is only US that have the history of ever using such weapon, and I don't see its uses anyway, since it is a weapon of mass destruction. US is also guilty of genocide by threatening to use military option to decide Iran matter. Ahmedenejad and Bush are both Baaaaaaaaaaaaad.

@ twinstaiye,
Well said. And it seems as if you understand your geopolitics very well. The rest of you Isreali apologists are just talking blindly. I'm surprised that Seun has not researched extensively on that killer George Bush. His mindset is no different than that of Ahmadinejad -- they're both apocalyptic! Bush is a messianic fool who believes in some munbo-jumbo armageddon. In his sick mind, whatever aggressions he commits in the world are in preparation for the coming of Jesus. He and other neo-con looneys have said that they wanted to rid Jerusalem of the Muslims, so Jesus could come -- they believe the delay in the Coming is due to the fact that the Muslims occupy Jerusalem. On the other hand, Ahmadinejad believes that he needs to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, so that the "hidden" Imam Mahdi can come back. The Shiites believe that the Imam is the one that will cleanse the world of all evils before Prophet Yisa/Issa's arrival. Gentlemen, do your research before you blindly support Isreal.

All of you say NO to Christianity(and the Bible) and Islam(and the Quoran). am I right or wrong,

You're wrong. I've told you before. I'm not an atheist. I believe in Allah; I'm a very proud Muslim. I don't know anything about Jagunlabi and the Reverend -- I'm not a sycophant. I'm a man of myself.

Iran is indeed powerful. It is the only country in the so-called Middle East that causes Isreal sleepless nights. Isreal is definitely scared to its panties right now, as we talk.

You're a trouble maker.

@ Dearzi,
Hi, dear. I was already off by the time you were on and vice versa. Anyway, we'll surely meet online very soon.

The other day, Monday, May 8, 2006, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of the Islamic Republic of Iran sent a letter to George Bush of America. In the letter, he sharply criticized Bush on many fronts, especially his war efforts on Muslim nations. He suggested that the unfortunate events in Afghanistan, Iraq proper (and Abu Ghraib prison scandals), the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and, of course, support for Israel at the expense of the Palestinians were not in line with Bush's faith of Christianity. Here are excerpts culled from The Washington Post:

"Can one be a follower of Jesus Christ, the great Messenger of God, But at the same time have countries attacked: the lives, reputations and possessions of people destroyed"[?] The Iranian President also reiterated his past claim about the fact that the controversial nuclear pursuit was Iran's "basic right." "Why is it that any technological and scientific achievement in the Middle East is translated into and portrayed as a threat to the Zionist regime"[?]

Do you think George Bush should take advantage of this letter by opening the door for dialogues between the two powerful countries in order to avert any impending dooms?

@ me,myself:
Haven't I put you in your place? Why are you still taunting me? Please, I've had enough of your guile.

Ecclesiates 12:13: "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."

I thought that apostate said something like: "The nature of faith does not suppose fear - that's what you may believe or hold onto in Islam, but fear is not connected to faith in anyway"?

@ Reverend,
What's wrong? How can a learned person like you turn this way? It made no sense at all. You're the only one asking questions and simultaneously answering them.

Here we go:


1. Does the Qur’an define the word "Allah"? No.

The answer is Yes! Allah -- the One and Only!

  2. Was the name "Allah" revealed for the first time in the Qur’an? No

Unclear. What did you mean by this?

3. Does the Qur’an assume that its readers have already heard of "Allah"? Yes

 Of course, inasmuch as the Qur'an is the Word of Allah, we believe we have heard from Him. What's your problem with that?

  4. Should we look into pre-Islamic Arabian history to see who "Allah" was before Muhammad? Yes.  

It's no secret. Throughout the history of Arabia, Allah has always been the name of The Most High -- The Sublime. Read more, man.

5. According to Muslim tradition, was Muhammad born into a Christian family and tribe? No

Everybody knew that Muhammad was born into a community immersed in total idolatry.

  6. Was he born into a Jewish family or tribe? No

See what I mean. Laughable!

7. What religion was his family and tribe? Pagans

Of course, that's not new.

  8. What was the name of his pagan father? Abdullah (Abd + Allah)

Abd means "slave" Abd Allah (a slave of Allah). I, Ajisafe, am an obedient slave of Allah.

  9. Did Muhammad participate in the pagan ceremonies of Mecca? Yes

No. Never! That was why he would retreat to the Cave Hira on Jab al-Hud (Mount Hud) to meditate until one day when  the Arch-Angel eventually visited him with the Glad Tidings.

 10. Did the Arabs in pre-Islamic times worship 360 gods? Yes

Somebody, please, call this man an ambulance. Read Seerat al-Nabw (Lifestory of the Prophet) -- you'll see that he was against all of these things you have mentioned. That was why the pagans wanted to kill him.  Honestly, I have to stop answering you. You are sick -- just going round and round about paganism. Everyone knows Prophet Muhammad's life-story and that of the early Arabia. Yes, the whole of Arabia was into paganism before Muhammad cleansed them of it.

Maybe, I should ask you the followings:

Were your forefathers in England cave-dwellers or not?

Were they not so ignorant and backward (as at the time of African Civilization) that they ate raw food: uncooked yam tuber and blood-soaked meat? Until the Africans showed them how to cook?

What was the pagan background of your forefathers called? If you don't know I'll tell you. Druidism. You're a product of the accursed Druids.

As I said we belief in the actual bible, but not of which is available today, it is polluted. We belief in the real Old testament (zabur) the real New Testament (Injil), but not the stuff today,

I know it was inadvertent but rather an oversight. Actually, the Old Testament=Taurat (Torah), which was the  book given to Musa (Moses),  the One given to Yisa/Issa is called the Injil (the Evangel), while Dauda (David) was to whom the Zabur (Psalm) was given. Allah knows best.

Isn't the Qu'ran an account made by Muhammad?

Didn't I just show it to you how the Qur'an was revealed? Is that too much for you to comprehend?

So you must believe that your God is powerless to preserve the integrity of his word.  Do you know to what extent even men will go to make sure their words are not corrupted?  Now extend that desire to God.

And if Allah's supposedly spoken words were corrupted then, what is the guaranty that the one he tried to get out through Muhammad wasn't corrupted as well.  That allah must really be powerless if his words are so easily trampled down.

When you're are this brazenly blasphemous, what stops me from exposing how brainless you're?

The Koran like the bible is full of ridiculous contradictions!

Numerical Contradictions: There are many numerical contradictions in the Koran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations.

How many days did it take to create the Heavens and the Earth?

·         QKoran7:54: Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

·         QuKoran0:3: Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

·         QurKoran1:7: He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

·         QuraKoran29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

@ Reverend,
You didn't come off to me as unintelligent, man. Allah has said that a Day with Him is as a thousand that we reckon. So, the Qur'an is quite different from your Old Testament's account of the Universe being 5,000 years old. Please, do the math yourself.

The above verses clearly state that Allah ( God) created the heavens and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below state

·         QuranKoran : Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

·         Quran-Koran0: He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…

·         Quran-41:Korano He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

Now do the math: 2 (for earth) + 4 (for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days.

Created the earth in two days and and the heavens in two days; it is commonsensical that Allah could have used part of the first two days of the earth's creation to disperse all the animals, vegetations, peaks and what have you, and eventually, completed the "nourishment," as you called it, in the remaining two days. It's quite possible. He is Allah -- the Mighty.

And I pray you tell me why the same angel Gabriel that brought the news to Mary that she will give birth to the Messiah now come around and tell Muhammad things that are totally contrary?  

You see, man, you know nothing. And now you and some fake "Muslima" in a run-down African outback will start saying that I'm calling you names. Even great bible scholars have agreed that the Qur'anic account of the birth (Immaculate Conception) of Prophet Yisa/Issa ("Jeus" is the most comprehensive of all accounts -- clear and straight-forward without ambiguities. Please, I exhort you, to read Surat Mariam (Mary) in the Qur'an).

Why do all the Books of the Bible written by various authors say the same thing about Jesus under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, and yet one so-called prophet who is no doubt, a nationalist and with a racial superiority mentality now claim something much more different?

Again, you know nothing. That's one of the reasons for this thread -- to show to you that your bible is not the word of God. These your so-called "various authors" definitely didn't "say the same thing about Jesus." And, since they all had the accounts wrong and confusing, which "Holy Ghost" inspired them? Or might it be the Devil that inspired them. Because the Word of God will raedily stand the test of Time -- and this can be said about the Qur'an. I'll show it to you in clearer terms, I haven't baited you enough.

And Ajisafe: you find solace and self-congratulations in jagunlabi simply because he feeds your agenda. No problem with that, but sooner than later it'll be interesting to watch you guys turn on each other. It's only a matter of time.

I can't believe that the kufars can get this negatively low. We rebuke that. Your evil intentions shall be yours (Amin!).

I'm going to reply you guys in stages as I have the time.

By the way, your assertion that he was unlettered makes no difference to anything.  The Bible was written by dozens of authors with different educational backgrounds.

The Qu'ran was inspired quite alright, but not by God I dare say.  I'll also give you reasons for my conclusions.

What is this about who wrote the Qu'ran?  Angel Gabriel?  Please make yourself clear.  I want to kow the details.

and while you talk about the sciences of the Qu'ran.  Didn't it say also that the sun sets in water?  Does science say the same thing?

Man, you have only made a fool of yourself intelectually. Who is an author? An author may either pen the information himself or rather verbalize or dictate it to someone else. In those days, growing up in Ibadan, some old, unlettered granny would call me or any of my siblings to sit in front of her; she would then dictate to any of us whatever either to her son or daughter usually in a faraway place. When the same granny would later boast to a friend of hers she would say: "I wrote a letter to my son/daughter yesterday." Even though she didn't "write" the letter, there's no argument that she was the author of the letter. Hakeem Olajuwon's book was definitely written by a relatively unknown whiteman (Hakeem might have dictated specific accounts of events),but guess who got the author's credit -- Hakeem! The whiteman's name was almost inconspicuously written in fine prints.

The Qur'an's authorship goes like this:
ALLAH>inispires Jibril (Gabriel) >dictates to Muhammad's hearing > proclaims it aloud and the Believers in attendance write it down. Plain and simple.

, but the threat of Al-Queda and supporter of APC"
So says the Lord.

Which your "Lord" said this?

The science of it, imagine a book wrote 1400+ years ago(if not a revelation from God) and has things to attest to some scientific findings of today?

And the Holy Prophet Muhammad was supposed to be an unlettered man -- he couldn't read or write. Imagine that!

I can prove to anybody that the Author of the al-Qur'an was Allah. The Qur'an was Allah's inspiration to the Holy Prophet Muhammad. Neither Allah nor Muhammad wrote the Qur'an by their hands; the Arch-Angel Jibril (Gabriel) was the Conduit in this wise.

@ Jagunlabi,

Again! Kudos.

There's a difference between version and translation. The christians' bible has tons of of versions to it; however, the Qur'an was translated into other languages (English, French, Urdu, Yoruba, Hausa, Farsi and etc.) by Muslims and non-Muslims (who might have hidden agendas) alike. And, mind you, Mohammad Marmaduke Pickthal was an English writer, poet, educator, and linguist, who, out of curiousity as to why the West hated Islam, went to Egypt and studied the Qur'an, having been awed-stricken by the truth, became a Muslim, and ultimately did a great service to the religion by translating the al-Qur'an into English. I don't know why so many Muslims prefer a Yusuf Ali's translation to that of Pickthal but, personally, I enjoy Pickthal's translation. The dictions and semantics are stronger.

FBI's most wanted list? Oh this thread is all about America? I see

Oh, so, you didn't know? When I exposed George Bush and men of his ilk as terrorists, criminals, and killers certain christians on this board disagreed, saying America's war on Muslim nations is not religious. I hope you folks can all see the crusaders' mindset before it's too late for all of you. The kufars cannot deceive me. Never.

@ mrlawng,
You are not making any sense at all. You keep on saying thesame thing. It's irritatingly redundant, if you know what I mean. Man, you're just as mentally retarded as that sick crusader kid, emmie4j. You need to go back to your mental hospital. Haba! You keep on saying the same outlandish thing; I'm sorry for your parents.