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They practise the Christian Religion (man made) not GOD inspired Christianity (which is a way of life).

You these so-called "born-again" are nothing but hypocrites! Although, I'm not a Christian (and I will never be one; I was born a Muslim and I'll die a Muslim -- insha Allah), but I respect the Catholics more than you "new breed" christians. By negating them you have alienated over a billion of the christian adherents. If we remove this astounding number from your population worldwide what remains is, maybe, a little less than 800,000,000 "christians." You are now in minority; even, the Indian Buddhists or whatever they call themselves, are now more than you in number. What makes you better than the catholics?

they get 80 studs! aqua, where r u?

I really don't want to respond to any of these Jewish and Christian ignoramuses on this particular thread, but Deji Olowe, whose article on nairaland and Seun made me to regard him as an intellectual has now joined the likes of these idiots.

they get 80 studs! aqua, where r u?

I really don't want to respond to any of these Jewish and Christian ignoramuses on this particular thread, but Deji Olowe, whose article on nairaland and Seun made me to regard him as an intellectual has now joined the likes of these idiots.

I agree completely. Jesus made peace with God possible, Jesus is the way.

Confusion in its entirety! I thought, in your confused christendom, Jesus was god, so who did he make peace with possible? Himself?

There can only be One God, ALLAH! The Sublime!

Big thanks to both Kismat and chrisd, more grease to your elbows.

@Phoenix is probably one of those fundamentalist christians or jewish extremists in the united states -- he needs to open his eyes.

RhodaRose, spicequeen, snazzydawn, goodguy, nicetohave, you've all dared me to prove to you that your bible is not the word of God, right? OK, this is how it starts, and when the chips begin to fall they'll start screaming Ajisafe's name. Be patient, I'm coming to get you all!

Tell who?

prettyH, you wan start again o; make you no ta si mi; me a no send you ooo.

It must be fantastic to be a Christian. You can pick anything from the bible you like and the things that don't suit you [are] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

You got that right, my European brother! The Christians are known for just that! They scavenge through their so-called "word of God" and pick and choose whatever suits them.

For me they are thesame, I call God "Allah" in my language.

The Nigerian Christians are ignorant about the root of their religion. Because we were colonized and forced to speak English by the British (who, by the way, brought their religion to them in Nigeria) they actually think that christianity's beginning was English. The bible was written in Hebrew (old testament) and Greek (new testament -- the over 75% of which was written by the founder of chrsitianity, Saul/Paul). Ask any coptic christian in Egypt what he/she calls our Maker, he/she will tell you that it's called Allah. And just about any Arab christians anywhere in the world, they'll confirm it. Are these Arab christians not christian enough? Methinks, they are better christians than these Nigerian ones who have been sedated by that slave masters' language -- English!

What actually seems like contradictions to us aren't actually contradictions. The devil tries as much as possible to make people believe that the word of GOD is not true by making us see vivid examples of where there seems to be contradictions. So unto those that are without, they will never understand these things, no matter how hard they try to input science or logic.

There actually aren't logical ways to explain things like these. That's why it's called MYSTE

Blame it on the Devil again! My friend, the bible is not God's word -- it's full of thousands of contradictions!

OK I dare you

@ RhodaRose, you dared me, I'm coming to show it to you!

am disapoited that even some of u in the room that call urselfs christians will agree that the God u serve is thesame with am idol in Ka'aba called Allah. pic it upon yourself to study the origin of Islam very well n come back to answer this question. THEYU ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

@ myname, I can see that you're definitely thirsty for knowledge. I'm not going to chastise you further because you have done that to yourself by exposing how ignorant you were about history.

The Ka'bah is not Allah! The word Ka'bah means a cube. It's a cubic house "rebuilt" by Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) with his first son, Isma'il. This structure has only four walls and no roof.

Yes, before the birth of Prophet Muhammad (and until his Call to Prophethood), there were idolaters in the whole of Arabia peninsular. The center of their worship was the Ka'bah! Allah, in His Majesty, frowned at those unholy practices, so He commanded His Prophet at the time, Abraham, to rebuild the Cube to what it is today! There were many historical miracles behind the Cube (Ka'bah); its building predated Islam as a religion. Let me give you just one example: In the Prophet's year of birth (Year of Elephant), the year had already proven to be a very important one in the history of mankind. Abraha was the ruler of Yemen under the Abyssinian Negus. He intended to make his nation of Yemen the center of attraction and a great place of worship in lieu of Mecca to all Arabs, so he built a magnificent cathedral at Sana'a, capital of Yemen, and decorated it with all known ornaments and caparisons; he set up crosses of gold and silver, and pulpits of ivory and ebony. A man from Kinanah, a tribe similar to Quraysh, went to Sana'a for the deliberate act of defiling the cathedral. He was successful in doing just that, and returned safely to his people, rejoicing! Abraha was so furious that he decided to retaliate by razing the Ka'bah to the ground. That same year, he set out with a large army led by a very big and caparisoned elephant to attack Mecca and destroy Ka'bah. But Abraha and his overwhelming army could not do any harm to the Ka'bah as his army were pelted with brimstones and pebbles from the bottom of the hellfire by the ababil birds -- these birds were especially sent by Allah to attack Abraha and his army in order to save the Ka'bah! The Holy Prophet Muhammed was born at Mecca in Arabia on Monday morning, (August 29, 570 CE) nearly 4,090 years after Noah, 3000 years after Abraham, 2300 years after Moses, 1800 years after David, and 570 years after Jesus! Today, there are no idols in Ka'bah! Prophet Muhammed cleansed the whole Arabian peninsular of idol worshipping by Allah's leave. That was the reason why our dear Prophet was attacked and eventually kicked out of Mecca by the idol worshippers! He opposed them and their false worship, as we oppose the Christian polytheists and their sick idea of trinity! Now, tell me, is it not written in your bible that you must not bow down to a graven image? So, why do you Christian polytheists bow down to that picture (drawing to be exact) of a white European man, as your God? Who is an idol worshipper? Is it the Muslim who bows down to an imageless deity or the polytheistic christian who bows down to a "graven" image? Think well before you open your mouth next time!

Yeah, longtime -- no see. See, you were wrong as always; I have no problem with you guys, I'm only here to give you the good tidings about being a true believer. I'll talk to you again tomorrow; I've got to go now. Thanks.

Assalaam alaikum, Kenya:
Sister, I enjoted your response to my last post; it was full of knowledge. However, I'm not a sister -- I'm a Muslim brother, ma sha Allah!

This "goodguy" is definitely a pain in the behind. You see, when you all start trouble and the Muslims meet you even half-way, you cry foul, saying the Muslims have started ooooo! In truth, you are the troublemakers!

...says who..no wonder

Says Allah, and it's so wonderful!

It's OK for you to disrespect your fellow human beings, but to pooh-pooh Allah's statement is egregiously outlandish.

i really want to know what makes yr so called religion more superior *shakes head and laughs* because i know it ain't.

I really don't think it's proper for any Muslims on this forum to be apologizing for any truth they have pronounced! Let's call a spade a spade! If what these Kafirs really care to know is whether Islam is greater than their religion, Christianity, without cutting corners, I'll emphatically say YES! We don't need to prove anything to them. They're not nice people, so there's no need to be nice to them! Look at the above quotes and think it over. So, please, no more apologies -- they're just not worth it! Let's meet fire with fire!

@ Madam,
Why did you selectively mention my name when your "sisters and brothers in christ" are all over the board attacking others vituperatively? Or weren't you the same that voiced "Thank you jo, Alheri...?"

I can show it to you that bible is not God's word. Please, dare me!

I love this. Oh, I love this. Intelligent people (Christians, Muslims and, of course atheists) are now dialoguing. This is fantastic! Now, let's ask the hypocrites and ordinary quiblers to evaporate from the board, as many of us now care to be nurtured by words of wisdom.

As for those who see the influx of certain Munafikins, who called themselves Muslims, into Christianity, I only have to agree with both sisters Ayinke and Kenya. They have hit the nails on the head -- and they are right on the money! In Nigeria, especially Yorubaland, many parents themselves are ignorant about the religion of al-Islam; they just attend mosques to line up behind the Imam without knowing what the faith entails.Tell me what kind of children are these folks bringing into the world? A bad tree will only bring forth a worthless fruit. Thank you.

Are there no more Christians, "born again" gospellers, and oratorical evangelists on this forum? I have seen and heard you people so many times thumping the bible and claiming that it's the word of God, so why can't you come out and talk about it?

God and Allah are never the same, if u have the opportunity to read the quran u will see that all the names and qualities attributed to Allah is totally the opposite of God's qualities we all know. Get a quran and find then out for yourself, then reply back to this forum thx Pple.

"Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The similitude of His light is as a niche wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a glass. The glass is as it were a shining star. (This lamp is) kindled from a blessed tree, an olive neither of the East nor of the West, whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself) though no fire touched it. Light upon light, Allah guideth unto His light whom He will. And Allah speaketh to mankind in allegories, for Allah is knower of all things." (Qur'an 24:35)

If your own God's qualities are devoid of these, I am happy with Allah.

There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Sovereign, the Holy.
There is no God beside Allah, The Glorified, the Mighty, the Subduer.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Most Forgiving, the Merciful.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Bounteous, the Wise.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Powerful, the Fulfiller.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Incomprehensible, the All-Aware.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Besought of all, the God.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Most Forgiving, the Loving.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Disposer of Affairs, the Guarantor.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Watchful, the Guardian.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Ever-Existing, the Self-Subsisting.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lifegiver, the Destroyer.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Living, the Self-Subsisting and All-Sustaining.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Creator, the Make.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the High, the Incomparable in Majesty.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the One, the Unique.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Bestower of Security, the Protector.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Reckoner, the Witness.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Forbearing, the Noble.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the First, the Eternal.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the First, the Last.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Manifest, the Hidden.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Incomparably Great, the Most Exalted.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Fulfiller of needs.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, Most Gracious, Most merciful.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Glorified, the Lord of the Great Throne.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, My Lord, the Most Exalted.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Manifest Majest.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the One, the Most Supreme.
There is no God beside Allah, The Glorified, the All-Knowing, the Wise.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Coverer, the Great Forgiver.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, Most Gracious, Most Generous.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Incomparably Great, the Greatest.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the All-Knowing, the Omniscient.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Healer, the Competent.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, Incomparable in Majesty, the Survivor.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Besought of all, the Unique.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of the Earth and the Heavens.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Creator of the Creation.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, Who created the Night and the Day.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Creator, the Great Sustainer.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Opener of doors of success, the All-Knowing.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Mighty, the Self-Sufficient.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Most Forgiving, the Most Appreciating.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Incomparable in Majesty, the All-Knowing.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Dominion and Celestial Domains.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Honour and Greatness.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Awe and Power.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Majesty and Authority.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Coverer, the Incomparable in Majesty.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Knower of the Unseen.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Praiseworthy, the Lord of Honour.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Wise, the Eternal.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Omnipotent, the Coverer.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Self-Sufficient, the Incomparable in Majesty.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Omniscient, the Source of Peace.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Sovereign, the Great Helper.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Self-Sufficient, Most Gracious.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified the One Nearest to good actions.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Friend of Patient, the Coverer.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Creator, the Light.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Self-Sufficient, the Vanquisher.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Sublime, Most Appreciating.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Self-Sufficient, the Eternal.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Manifest Glory.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, Free from all blemish and imperfection.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Most Thankful about promise.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Watchful, the Guardian.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Manifest Truth.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Power, the Strong.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Powerful, the Mighty.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Best Knower of hidden things.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Living who will not die.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Coverer of faults.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, of Whom help and forgiveness is sought.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of the Worlds.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Most Gracious, the Coverer.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Most Merciful, the Forgiver.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Mighty, the Bestower.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Possessor of Power and Authority.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Forgiveness, the Forbearing.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Sovereignty.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Maker, the Fashioner.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Mighty, the Subduer.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Subduer, the Exalted.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, Who is Free from all that is attributed to Him.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Holy, the Pure.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Angels and of Gabriel.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Lord of Dooms and Favours.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Sovereign, the Object of everyone.
There is no God beside Allah, the Glorified, the Bestower of gifts.
There is no God beside Allah, Adam is the Select of Allah.
There is no God beside Allah, Noah is he who was saved by Allah.
There is no God beside Allah, Ibrahim is the Friend of Allah.
There is no God beside Allah, Ismail is the sacrifice for Allah.
There is no God beside Allah, Moses is he who talked with Allah.
There is no God beside Allah, David is the vicegerent of Allah.
There is no God beside Allah, Jesus is the Spirit of Allah.
There is no God beside Allah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.

My brother, if your own God is none of the above, I am happy with Allah as my own God. Thanks.

Do christians and muslims share d same beliefs. Nope. if u say they do , then why don't christians go around killing people all in d name of religion and fighting a religious war.

I have mentioned it severally on this forum that my own uncle is a Christian;in fact, I love this man more than my other uncles and aunts. OK? But, when folks, especially the Nigerian Christians, go around saying they are holy and pious, and that they don't "go around killing all in d name of religion and fighting a religious war," I, as a person, can't stomach such claims because I know the truth.

Then start another thread and discuss religious voilence. There are rules on this forum and I want to BELIEVE that the administrator who has sent us all a message about speaking off point from the topic is watching what is happening.

We are pretty much on course; we've not digressed at all! Check the above quote -- this was begun by your "Christian sister." All I have done, so far, is expose your level of ignorance when it comes to world religious knowledge and geopolitics. Yoruba people say, "eniyan t'o ju okuta oro, ni lati f'ori gba ogulutu," he who throws a pebble onto another should expect to be bombarded by hard rocks. If you have more arrows in your quiver, bring it on!

Do christians and muslims share d same beliefs. Nope. if u say they do , then why don't christians go around killing people all in d name of religion and fighting a religious war.

The Yoruba proverb says, "eniyan ti ko ni jobo-jobo l'apa ki i da'sa mo ki e ki e," -- if you can't fight don't start one!-- if you live in a glass-house, please, don't throw stones.

Bible, the Christians' holy book, has been presented for eons as the true word of God. Can you tell us if you believe in this claim or not? Please, give your specific reasons for saying yes, or no. Thanks.

What if i demostrated the power of what i believe for you to see?

I guess you will call me a magictian.

@ donnie, what else are you going to do? Can you do better than Jesus of old? Please, let's have a breathing space! All your so-called miracle workers are themselves in need of miracle -- a good example will be Pastor Obadare. Please, Donnie, restore Obadare's eyesight first before you even worry about being called a magician. Even that Ayefele singer of a guy can use a pair of good legs; at least, it will enable him to churn out more "gospel records." What says you, Donnie boy?

However, to answer your question, I will ask you another. Does it mean that the Holy Prophet Mohamed derives pleasure from seeing people suffer? Does it mean that the Holy prophet does not know what tolerance means?

@ elbaron,
Please, study your bible very well! In fact, I can show you hundreds of thousands of violent verses, rapes, and sexual immoralities directly or indirectly sanctioned in your bible.

Do christians and muslims share d same beliefs. Nope. if u say they do , then why don't christians go around killing people all in d name of religion and fighting a religious war.




The Holy Qur'an tells us in Chapter 3, "Ali Imraan":

    He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book
    In it are the verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning);
    They are the Foundations of the Book and others, which are
    Allegorial. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part
    Therefore that is allegorical, seeking discord, ....

Brethren,
So many ignorant folks have based their  knowledge or, should I say, lack of knowledge about religions (theirs and others) on hearsays via their misguided religious leaders, perverted parents, and unscrupulous political leaders, who themselves don't have an idea of why certain things are the way they are. Instead of these buffoons to go out and seek more lights, they tend to follow those aforementioned like goons.

THE CRUSADES AND MUSLIM RESPONSE TO MILITANT CHRISTIANITY

Although both originated from the same monotheistic roots, the relationship between Islam and Christianity has been more often than not that of "cat and mouse," which is marked by confrontation in lieu of peaceful coexistence and educational dialogue. In one hand, the Christians have always characterized Islam as nothing other than "the religion of the sword." On the other hand, Christianity has been seen as the epitome of the brutish and terroristic armies of the Crusades. Right from the advent of Islam, both religions have been locked in a theological and political struggle. Why? Because, Islam, in clear contrast to the other lesser influential world religions, has ever threatened both the religious and political ascendancy of Christianity. The powerfully invigorated Muslim armies routed the Eastern Roman empire, Spain and the Mediterranean (from Sicily to Anatolia). Simultaneously, Islam confronted and debunked Christian religious claims and authority. Even though it emerged hundreds of years after the formation of Christianity, Islam claimed to supersede Christian revelation. Readers should note that, while Islam acknowledges (and is aware of) God's revelation through scores of prophets from Adam to Jesus, Islam rubbishes and rejects the doctrine based on the divinity of Jesus, the finality of Christian revelation and the authority of the church. Otherwise, it called on Mankind (Jews, Christians, Sabians, Buddhists, animists and all) to accept the finality of both the revelation (Qur'an) and prophecy (Muhammad) in Islam. Islam's universal appeal and charisma  had resulted in the spread of Muslim rule across the Christian territories thusly penetrating deep into the Christian hearts. To the Christian Europe, this was a big threat so, they had to do something drastic. The response was decisively belligerent, hostile, and intolerant. Their "men of God" embarked upon a campaign of character assasination by villifying the Holy Prophet Muhammad as an imposter and; also, dubbing him the "anti-Christ." Vehemently, Islam was dismissed as nothing but a religion of the sword -- even till today, you can still hear this heretical nonsense from the mouths of ignorant neo-Crusaders. These uninformed fanatics saw Jesus' short-lived ministry and "un-married" life as being pure and holy, where as, the Prophet Muhammad's well-lived, family oriented life as nothing but infidelity that was propelled by a lust for power and women. According to John L. Esposito, author of Islam: the straight path, "This attitude was preserved and perpetuated in [Western] literature such as the Divine Comedy, where Dante consigned [Holy Prophet] Muhammad to the lowest level of hell. Christian fears were fully realized as Islam became a world power and civilization while Christianity staggered and stagnated in its Dark Ages" (63).

Folks, by circa 11th century, Christendom's inability to stop Islam reached its peak, so the so-called religion of peace, Christianity, had to resort to jungle justice in its quest to reconquer (the Reconquista) Spain between 1000-1492 CE (please, folks, "CE" here stands for Common Era since the more educated and informed world has now moved away from both the "BC" and "AD," and not Christian Era as some uneducated Nigerian Christians are wont to believe) and Italy and Sicily in 1061 CE, and the eventual brutal campaigns through frequent and numerous Christian holy wars better known as the Crusades -- these unfortunate reigns of terror spanned between 1095-1453 CE; so many Muslim lives were lost including women and children even food crops and livestocks were not spared.


THE HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMAD AS A MAN OF PEACE, WHO ONLY REACTED AGAINST HIS ENEMIES THROUGH DIVINE AUTHORITY

Right from the 4th year of the Holy Prophet's Call, bitter hatred and attritional persecutions of Muslims emerged. These first Muslims were mainly simple folks who could not even defend themselves . In other to save lives and salvage Islam, the Prophet then advised a group of fourteen Muslims (10 men and 4 women) to flee to Abyssinia -- now, modern day Ethiopia. Contrary to what hate-filled Christians are doing nowadays, the ruler of Abyssinia, Emperor Najjashi (the Negus) -- a Christian, who was internationally reputed for his piety and justice, treated the Islamic refugees with kindness. They lived there for years, and the resultant effect was that their host, Emperor Najjashi, converted to Islam. Today, ask anybody, there are more Muslims in Ethiopia than the Christians.

The Muslims who stayed behind in Mecca, with the Holy Prophet, were put to misery and cruel tortures. These believers, including our dear Prophet, were laid under the hot sun on the desert sands with bare bodies with heavy stones placed on them so they could not move. (I can tell you about the intensity of the Arabian sun -- when I went for the pilgrimage, we stayed in a five star hotel directly opposite the Great Mosque of Ka'bah. It was a horrendous task for me to come out of my air-conditioned high brow hotel and walk for less than one minute to the blessed Mosque. Imagine stripping human beings of their dignity and made them to suffer a constant exposure to this monster 24-hour, day and night, for two years!) Every passing moment, they were lashed, mocked, derided, scorned at, and starved. Their offense? They dared to believe in One God, the Almighty, the Creator of the Universe and all things in it, in lieu of giving in to the insane ideas of worshipping man-made idols. In the 6th year of the Call, more and more Muslims fled Mecca into Abyssinia.

The people of Mecca were unrelented in their persecution of the believers and our Holy Prophet. Finding no support in Mecca, he decided to go to a nearby town of Taif -- about 50 miles from downtown Mecca ( when I made the Haj, I intended to vist this town, but the rigor of the pilgrimage was too much that I shelved the idea until next time, God willing). This town, Taif, is mountainous and rugged. The Prophet hoped to be hosted, but he was met with greater persecutions; he was mercilessly pelted with stones and bricks, so much that blood began to ooze out profusely from every part of his body. Why? Because he opposed the way of false gods. On top of these, yet, he smilingly prayed for Taif and its inhabitants: "Oh, Allah! Forgive Taif and its people; they do not know what they do." The tradition had it that the highest peak in Taif asked if it could shift and rise in anger to overwhelm the whole township of Taif and crush everything to death, but the Holy Prophet told the angry mountain not to do so. That if it did that how would Taif's children and great-grand children know about Islam? So folks, tell me, what type of a man was that? A very kind and peace-loving man, right?

In the beginning of the 14th year of the Call, Jibril (Gabriel) informed the Holy Prophet about the enemy's plan of action. He then gave him the order, from Allah, for migration. The Holy Prophet then went to Abu Bakr's house to tell him that Allah had given permision for migration. Abu Bakr was a very wealthy individual -- comparable only to Bill Gate in today's assessment --, who was ready to give everything he had to propagate Islam. He told the Prophet of his willingness to join him in the Flight; he was so joyful when the Prophet agreed that he offered two camels (one for each man) for the journey. Folks, listen properly, as this is highly important. The Prophet declined to take the camel. Why? He was quoted as saying: "I will not ride a camel that is not my own." What! A person of Bill Gate's worth offered you something as a gift and you asked to pay for it instead! Abu Bakr eventually accepted the payment of 400 dirhams for the camel. I don't know what 400 dirhams are worth in today's dollar or naira, but the key point here is that our Holy Prophet paid for his own camel. They both proceeded on the night journey to Yathrib, which was later renamed Medina -- a 300-mile journey in an unbearable condition through ravines and rocky tracts, and the rest was history. This is what the Muslims refer to as Al Hijrah (Hegirah) -- this period in time actually pionered the Islamic calendar from which "AH" (After Hijrah) sprang.   

The pagans of Mecca were very angry at their failure to kill the Holy Prophet. When the news of the hospitable reception of the Prophet in Yathrib reached Mecca, the idol worshippers almost suffered a heart attack. So they plotted various ways to infiltrate the city of Yathrib in order to frustrate the spread of Islam. They would lay ambush on the outskirts of the city, killing and maiming the Muslims at will.

REVELATIONS FOR FIGHT AGAINST INJUSTICE

For quite so long, the Holy Prophet bore the pangs of injustices and tolerated the religious persecution and oppressions of him and the Muslims. To placate the oppressors, he sent more and more Muslims out of Mecca. The oppressors were unrelented, so Allah commanded him to leave Mecca, his birth place! They, the persecutors, followed him to the new abode. It was obvious that they wanted to destroy him and the religion of Islam. The people of Yathrib knew that in order for them to survive the frequent terrorism, they had to fight back! Yet, the Prophet was hesitant to fight -- he was not the type that did things out of sheer emotion or tantrums. He told them that war meant nothing but destruction, killing, looting, maiming, and etc. He asked them to tell him how possible would it be for him to become harsh on the very people for whom he had been sent as a guide and mercy. So it was, for a very long time, until the Revelations to fight against oppressions and aggression started pouring in.

For your perusal and education, here are few excerpts:

                                    "And fight for the cause of Allah against those who wage war against you,
                                     But do not commit aggression... Allah is Forgiving, Merciful (Qur'an 2:190-192)."

                                     "Fighting has been ordained for you though you may hate it;... For Allah knows
                                      and you don't (Qur'an 2:216)."

                                     "Permission to fight is given unto those...saying: Our Lord is Allah (Qur'an 22:39-40)."



What others say about Muhammad:

"HE WAS AN ENTHUSIAST IN THAT NOBLEST SENSE WHEN ENTHUSIASM BECOMES THE SALT OF THE EARTH. THE ONE THING THAT KEEPS MEN FROM ROTTING WHILST THEY LIVE.

ENTHUSIASM IS OFTEN USED DESPITEFULLY, BECAUSE IT IS JOINED TO AN UNWORTHY CAUSE, OR FALLS UPON BARREN GROUND AND BEARS NO FRUIT. SO WAS IT NOT WITH MOHAMMED. HE WAS THE ONE THING NEEDED TO SET THE WORLD AFLAME. AND HIS ENTHUSIASM WAS NOBLE FOR A NOBLE CAUSE.

HE WAS ONE OF THOSE HAPPY FEW WHO HAVE ATTAINED THE SUPREME JOY OF MAKING ONE GREAT TRUTH THEIR VERY LIFE-SPRING.

HE WAS THE MESSENGER OF THE ONE GOD; AND NEVER TO HIS LIFE'S END DID HE FORGET WHO HE WAS, OR THE MESSAGE WHICH WAS THE MARROW OF HIS BEING. HE BROUGHT HIS TIDINGS TO HIS PEOPLE WITH A GRAND DIGNITY SPRUNG FROM THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF HIS HIGH OFFICE, TOGETHER WITH A MOST SWEET HUMILITY, WHOSE ROOTS LAY IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIS OWN WEAKNESS."  - Stanley Lane Poole 



"HE WAS CAESAR AND POPE IN ONE; BUT HE WAS POPE WITHOUT THE POPE'S PRETENTIONS. AND CAESAR WITHOUT THE LEGIONS OF CAESAR: WITHOUT A STANDING ARMY, WITHOUT A BODYGUARD, WITHOUT A PALACE, WITHOUT A FIXED REVENUE; IF EVER ANY MAN HAD THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT HE RULED BY THE RIGHT DIVINE, IT WAS MOHAMMAD, FOR HE HAD ALL THE POWERS WITHOUT ITS INSTRUMENTS AND WITHOUT ITS SUPPORTS." - R. Bosworth Smith, "mohammad and mohammadanism," London 1874, p. 92


"THERE ARE MORE PROFESSING CHRISTIANS IN THE WORLD..., BUT THERE ARE MORE PRACTISING MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD THAN PRACTISING CHRISTIANS." - R.V.C. Bodley (the American) in "The Messenger: The Life of Mohammed." U.S.A. 1969


"IF GREATNESS OF PURPOSE, SMALLNESS OF MEANS AND OUTSTANDING RESULTS ARE THE CRITERIA OF HUMAN GENIUS, WHO COULD DARE TO COMPARE ANY GREAT MAN IN MODERN HISTORY WITH MUHAMMAD?...PHILOSOPHER, ORATOR, APOSTLE, LEGISLATOR, WARRIOR, CONQUEROR OF IDEAS, RESTORER OF RATIONAL BELIEFS...WITHOUT IMAGES: THE FOUNDER OF TWENTY TERRESTRIAL EMPIRES AND OF ONE SPIRITUAL EMPIRE, THAT IS MUHAMMAD. AS REGARDS ALL STANDARDS BY WHICH HUMAN GREATNESS MAY BE MEASURED, WE MAY WELL ASK, IS THERE ANY MAN GREATER THAN HE?" - Lamartine, "Historie de la Turquie," Paris 1854


"THE CREED OF MOHAMMED IS FREE FROM THE SUSPICIONS OF AMBIGUITY AND THE KORAN IS A GLORIOUS TESTIMONY TO THE UNITY OF GOD." - Gibbon in his "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire."


"THE MORE I STUDY THE MORE I DISCOVER THAT THE STRENGTH OF ISLAM DOES NOT LIE IN THE SWORD." - Mahatma Gandhi the father of modern India, in "Young India."


"THE SWORD INDEED: BUT WHERE WILL YOU GET YOUR SWORD! EVERY NEW OPINION AT ITS STARTING, IS PRECISELY IN A MINORITY OF ONE. IN ONE MAN'S HEAD ALONE, THERE IT DWELLS AS YET. ONE MAN ALONE [AND] THE WHOLE WORLD BELIEVES IT: THERE IS ONE MAN AGAINST ALL MEN. THAT HE TAKES A SWORD AND TRIES TO PROPAGATE WITH THAT, WILL DO LITTLE FOR HIM. YOU MUST FIRST GET YOUR SWORD! ON THE WHOLE, A THING WILL PROPAGATE ITSELF AS IT CAN. WE DO NOT FIND, OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION EITHER, THAT IT ALWAYS DISDAINED THE SWORD, WHEN ONCE IT HAD GOT ONE. CHARLEMAGNE'S CONVERSION OF THE SAXONS WAS NOT BY THE PREACHING." - Thomas Carlyle in his "Heros and Hero-Worship," p. 80 



Now, folks, who was and is still the "terrorist"? Allah knows best.

@ Ijebuman,
In fact, I pity you, my brother. But "opolo ni t'a ba de bi iru ka fo o," the frog said it'd be better if no questions are asked concerning his being tail-less."

God and allah r two diff people. Do christians and muslims share d same beliefs. Nope. if u say they do , then why don't christians go around killing people all in d name of religion and fighting a religious war.

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Pretty or Ugly or whatever you call yourself,
I have watched you patiently for a while now as you have crawled surreptitiously all over the fora giving your idiotic responses. You've never posted anything intelligent, but insults and abuses. People discuss and disagree with one another intelligently; certain debates might be hotly approached and contested, their outbursts; however harshly, are ever backed and supported by rational reasons and sensible explanation. But these have not been the case with you, ALHERI, LAYI, and sometimes GOODGUY. Why? Because you guys have been blinded by whatever religious "kool aid" you've been drinking since God knows when. If you guys cannot discuss religious issues without resorting to insulting people of other faiths or beliefs, e.g. the Muslims, I think it'll be better for you to keep your mouths shut! Now get this right in your heads: To corroborate what others have posted in their humble attempts at checkmating your excesses and madness, I would like to remind you that before George W Bush started this ongoing senseless war in Iraq, he proclaimed it a "crusade" against the "evil people" -- it was after so many right thinking individuals (including the opposition party, The Democrats) utterly condemned this untoward outburst of his that he apologized and moved away from ever using misguided languages like that. Have you ever heard of the Crusaders? Did you know what happen during the Crusade? Please, study well and know about your religion before you just run around saying just about anything.

I would prefer it if you try to be yourself more.
I don't know about other tribes, if your guy is igbo, just call his
mother, mama or mummy with some sweet voice.

OK, I knew that to be the truth, Igbo people don't care about kneeling down, prostrating, and stuff like that. So, I'm sorry to have included you people in the "respect-craving" tribes.

i[b] wouldnt advice you to go on your knees, simply because you want to impress, All you got to do is show courtesy and be nice in your comments, I understand your fears due to culture shock but chill , take things easy. That is nothing to fuss about[/b]

Why can't we keep it real and be frank with this foreigner and tell her the truth about who we truly are instead of trying to be "hip" and all that? Even people with Yoruba first names are trying to confuse this lady in their attempts to look or act "Western."

I agree with Nike, if you go on your knees, you would look like some kind of freak!, so I also advise you not to go on your knees, just be nice n all, these people don't rele pay much attention to respect, so there would not be any problems.Some of them even call their parents by their first names and all that.

That's not true! She's not going to look like some whatever you're trying to come up with. I don't know about your own folks, Yoruba people do "pay much attention to respect," and no Yoruba children would dare "call their parents by their first names and all that." Maybe Ibo people do that but, I am sorry, we don't behave that way. We accord our parents with utmost respect by kneeling (girls) and prostrating (boys) to them. And this has nothing to do with education --it's a matter of culture-- no matter how many degrees, Ph.D or whatever, Yoruba people still maintain their culture. It's so obvious in the ways we have preserved our culture: language, foods, mode of dressing, and other ways of life. In Yorubaland, any child that disrespects his parents (abuses or calls them by their first names) will be cursed and banished for life! If her boyfriend's folks are Yoruba, believe me, they'll love her so heartilly. She might amuse them out of curiosity and wonderment of the possibility that a foreigner could learn our culture that fast!

Now, Blackbeauty, in order for us to really help you and not to confuse you further, you need to let us know if your guy is Hausa or Yoruba or Ibo (or perhaps, from numerous  other minority tribes in Nigeria). Nigeria is a very complicated nation -- we have over 250 dialects, and each and every one of these tribes wants to belong, if you know what I mean. Please, in order for you to receive proper advise, we need to know your man's tribe. Good luck.

Layi, I don't need to study more; I possess the knowledge already. I shall impart the knowledge to you very soon.