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Lotus2020:
Then why overlooking your own Bidi'ah and keep calling others that did theirs names. No one forces you to do Maulud. Do your Bidi'ah and allow us do ours in peace pls.

Btw, many Scholars have classified Bidi'ah. There are permissible Bidi'ah. But I didn't expect you to agree with it.

This is my last comment on this topic.

Lotus2020:
Did Prophet S.A.W organise Musabaqqah (Qur'anic competition)?
Did any of the Sahhabah Organise Musabaqqah?
If your answer is no to these questions, Musabaqqah is Bidi'ah

Ask4bigneyo:
Shior.... Must I claim I'm a muslim before commenting...

Why?

AtbuAbdul:
Most of you have been writing rubbish about the Prophet SAW. Celebrating the birthday of the Prophet SAW is wrong according to your post op but you celebrate your own birthday? That's hypocrisy! There are so many things the Prophet SAW didn't do nor ask us to do that we do today and are considered to be acceptable Islamically. Examples include quranic competition, eating with spoon, using microphones and speakers to call to Sallat, preaching through radio and tv or even going to hajj through air planes and a whole lot of others. We venerate the Prophet SAW! When you preach against Maulud, we organize five more Maulud!

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advocatejare:
Mr. Man don't mention me if you won't answer my question. You shot yourself at the foot, it's honourable for you to redeem yourself, answer my questions or stop mentioning me

true2god:
You can no longer bear the heat. I get y'all.

advocatejare:
You're pained already. Can you see how the truth is setting you on fire.

You can see that all you've stood on is falsehoods. It's never too late, search for more truth and embrace the path of truth and salvation.

You can only curse yourself. You can't curse me. I'm the blessed of the Lord.

All the curses Muhammad placed and that you Muslims have been placing on Israel, where has it led you, Israel is progressing and Islamic world is retrogressing.

"I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse;..."
-Genesis 12:3

advocatejare:
Look at how you shot yourself at the foot again:
You Muslims claim that Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Jesus etc were Muslims

And now you're saying for anyone to be a Muslim that person must follow the Quran and the Hadith, so which Quran and hadith did all those I listed above follow?

That means you've agreed now that the Quran lied that Adam, Abraham, Isaac etc were Muslims since according to you, no one can be a Muslim without the Quran and the hadith.

Now answer the question you've been dodging?

1. Are you saying Muhammad was not a Muslim when he claimed he received revelation to be a Prophet of Allah?

2. Who is a Muslim?

3. At what point did Muhammad become a Muslim?

advocatejare:
It's you that needs to read your hadith before displaying ignorance online :

"...He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights..."

Don't use style to evade other questions I asked :

If Muhammad was not a Muslim when he was going into seclusion to worship Allah and when he received his first "revelation"

ho then is a Muslim?

So he was not a Muslim and he claimed he was named to be a Prophet?

At what point did Muhammad become a Muslim?

advocatejare:
You've not answered these:

Who then is a Muslim?

So he was not a Muslim and he claimed he was named to be a Prophet?

At what point did Muhammad become a Muslim?

advocatejare:
It's you that needs to read your hadith before displaying ignorance online :

"...He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights..."

Don't use style to evade other questions I asked :

If Muhammad was not a Muslim when he was going into seclusion to worship Allah and when he received his first "revelation"

ho then is a Muslim?

So he was not a Muslim and he claimed he was named to be a Prophet?

At what point did Muhammad become a Muslim?

advocatejare:
So he was not a Muslim at that time but he was going into seclusion to worship Allah alone in the cave?

Who then is a Muslim?

So he was not a Muslim and he claimed he was named to be a Prophet?

At what point did Muhammad become a Muslim?



It's not my opinion, it's what your Sahih hadith says.

advocatejare:
There are 3 ways to quote Sahih Bukhari hadith, I chose the third one, the message was passed that Muhammad was tormented by the jinn and the jinn never pronounced Muhammad as a Prophet, and Muhammad wanted to commit suicide. That was what I saw in the hadith

advocatejare:
How is the hadith wrong?


Is Sahih Bukhari hadith a wrong hadith?

Let me share you the link and the screenshots to clear your doubt:

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/91

advocatejare:
Sahih Bukhari 9:87:111

Narrated By 'Aisha
The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous... up to... that which he knew not." (96.15) Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?" Then he told her everything that had happened and said, 'I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija said, 'Never! But have the glad tidings, for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you as you keep good reactions with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guest generously and assist the deserving, calamity-afflicted ones."

Khadija then accompanied him to (her cousin) Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza bin Qusai. Waraqa was the son of her paternal uncle, i.e., her father's brother, who during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the Arabic writing and used to write of the Gospels in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to him, "O my cousin! Listen to the story of your nephew." Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" The Prophet described whatever he had seen.

Waraqa said, "This is the same Namus (i.e., Gabriel, the Angel who keeps the secrets) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they turn me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said: "Never did a man come with something similar to what you have brought but was treated with hostility. If I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Apostle in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before. (Ibn 'Abbas said regarding the meaning of: 'He it is that Cleaves the daybreak (from the darkness)' (6.96) that Al-Asbah. means the light of the sun during the day and the light of the moon at night)."


From the embolden above it's glaring that :

1. Muhammad had been going into seclusion to worship their Quraysh idol, Allah before he had encounter with that jinn in the cave.

2. The jinn never introduced himself as Gabriel

3. Waraqa never said the jinn was Gabriel because Gabriel never appeared to Moses

4. The Jinn never declared Muhammad as a Prophet

5. The jinn tormented Muhammad by pressing him down so hard

6. Muhammad ran home feeling cold and twitching his neck muscles like someone convulsing

7. Muhammad wanted to commit suicide severally by jumping off the mountain top.

No true prophet of God was ever tormented, pressed down and wanted to commit suicide.

Hence Muhammad was not a Prophet of God, his encounter with that entity in the cave was a demonic possession.

true2god:
Read sahih bukhari 9:87:111.

Dharniel:
I've read a lot of stupid and senseless statements and writeup about this #EndSARS movement, but yours seems to be outstanding and excellently fatuous. And to make matters worse, you started on the note of being a "born again Christian". Your stupidity is mindblowing and incomprehensible.

GOTVee:
As a born again Christian who is meant to speak the truth at all times, i think banning sars Is wrong and we should learn to live with their excesses. Majority of present yahoo boys are future armed robbers. What do you expect someone who doesn't have any skill than stealing from people to resort to when yahoo stops paying? They either commit suicide or turn to armed robbery just to live above their means. This is why i blame we Christians for encouraging this menace called yahoo boys. Even in churches the pastors don't care if you scam or rob people as long as you bring money to their temple. How many Muslims are involved in yahoo? How many Northerners have SARS operatives harassed? Are there no sars in the north, why are northerners not complaining like we southerners? We Christians need to learn a lot from the ways of life of the average northern Muslim. Their ways of life is guided with the tenets of Islam and they are so contented with whatever they have and would never get involved in cyber crimes.

Don't you realize that the average yahoo boy and cultists poses a security threat to your lives in future? Do you know how many have died as a result of the atrocities of yahoo boys? We need SARS to deal with those heartless vermins. Yahoo boys are no different from armed robbers. They only rob with phones, gadgets and deceit and since SARS are against robbery they must keep tracking every youth living above their means . Instead of ending SARS, why don't we end fraud and build a sane society?

I support SARS sad

falopey:
Liar your pants on fire. He exposed your “Quran has been perfectly preserved down to the letter” myths.

advocatejare:
I've read it well

Now go and read what you wrote

advocatejare:
Since you're here to defend Islam why not tell us the answers to your questions

advocatejare:
What point are you trying to make?

Don't you Muslims always claim that it's sunnah for an older woman to marry a younger man just like Khadija married muhammad?

Or are you saying that it's no longer sunnah?

advocatejare:
Akhirastriver read what your brother in Islam is saying, which is different from what you're saying

Daum:
I am not a Muslim

But your Prophet's wife was a rich merchant trader. Khadijah had a caravan trading along various routes. If she could work and be a successful business woman, then tell that malam that he is mad if he says your daughters shouldn't work

falopey:
That’s why David Woods alway exposes their lies

womenareapes:
probably she make her richest by sleeping with many rich men in Makkah who later established her!

advocatejare:
If Khadija Muhammad's first wife did not work and was not wealthy, how would she have married Muhammad? Note: Khadija married Muhammad, and not the other way round.

And when Khadijah died, muhammad inherited her wealth and properties and he suddenly said that Allah had commanded him to marry as much wives as possible.

When khadijah the breadwinner of the family was alive, Muhammad could not make that claim that he received a command that he could marry numerous wives.


So the answer is, Muslim women should work like khadijah so that they can marry men like Khadija married muhammad.

topboss:
MUSLIMS ARE SCUM.

Amspecial:

what is wrong with her doesn't she knows that Islam permit it

Toks2008:
Did you read what you posted? That he only worked miracle as a result of Allah's permission abeg whose pemission would it had been if not for GOD? So you se why i wrote that you just try so hard to be rebellous against Christ for no freaking reason and this bothers me a lot.

As i wrote my brother, you cant win this battle, it is either you accept Christ as saviour or risk not seeing Jannah. it remains your choice.

I am waiting for you to discredit other verses i quoted.