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Alejhandro:
Are men not important?

Are they more important than females

Both genders have roles to play in this world. One is not more important than the other.

sonofananimal:
YOU NEED WISDOM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OP IS SAYING WHICH IN YOUR CASE, YOU ARE LACKING.

I GUESS IT ALL TURNS DOWN TO ONE POINT!


WOMEN AND FISH BRAIN

That babe is smarter than all the femles in your family combined

johnson232:
@bolded, until then, u are just an ordinary female. deal with it. Mothers deserve the special treatment and recognition they get because they deserve it. Mothers are female, agreed. But the appellative 'mother' makes them more special than any other female that is still aspiring to be a mother...

Nah, my future son will think I have been awesome since my first word therefore I am definitely not an ordinary woman. I am a female, his mother is a female. If he thinks he can disrespect me because of my gender then he should know that his mum is exactly like me. What he says about my gender, directly relates to his mother and sisters.

OkunrinMeta:
So you are saying
1. You should be respected exactly the same way your mum would be respected.
2. Your dad should not be respected any more than a young man in a conversation like this.
Before you start insulting my parents too, understand that I am asking a question because that is what you've been implying by referring to someone's mother when talking about his sisters would have been sufficient. Sometimes its when we personalise things that our brain finally understand the weight of the issue at hand.

You are totally off track.

I am not going to insult you. What I am saying is that when you use derogatary and dirty words on a gender, you should bear in mind that you are conceived from that sex. If you think your mother is not a slut then you should have common sense to know that not all or most women are like that.

I won't tolerate the use of derogatory words. It is simply unfair and stupid. It became personal and insulting when you tagged every woman in the planet a slut/witch/bitch/unstable. Next time I will include his sisters, now that i know that mentioning his mum is simply not enough for a fool to understand understand the gravity of his careless words.

Consider how easy it is for some men to just blurt out those dirty words because they believe it is their birthright. I won't refer to his mum if he stops using dero[b]gatory and dirty words [/b]on all/most women.

eni4real:
i know that personality is established before 18 so i agree with the default stuff.
As a grandma and a well accomplished woman in ur career, life experience and accrued self-esteem modify what you can tolerate or not especially from a young lady who is supposed to be your daughter-in-law.
Only time will tell. Gudnite.

Only time will tell. I will forget l forever regain logical.

Thanks

bashsani:
seriously akike I just hope u cud learn from this man

If his mum is great, he would think twice when he meets women who are nothing like his mum. He as human would know that it is just a case of bad eggs.

I have met several good men in my life and when I foolishly make the mistakes to generalise, I will either admit my foolishness or amend my thoughts just because of those good men. The number is quite small

That is wha I call common sense and it will be great if he can learn from me

eni4real:
You will not think like this when you have attained the maturity of a mother-in-law.
You are an institution by that time!

I will. It is my default personality. Some think it is immaturity and others think that I am insensitive until they realised that is just who I am.

Teempakguy:
you need not worry about me at all. i am far more ambitious than you could ever hope to be.

like i earlier said, a point which you keep sidestepping, ego is the least of issues here. the real issue is, and i will enclose it in bold letters now to ensure it does not escape your attention. Can the family handle such a drastic role reversal without breaking?

you might be surprised that the very act of the man resigning may be the time bomb that eventually destroys the home. this is because it requires a large amount of flexibility, tolerance, patience, maturity, and intellect to manage such a situation and you know it. it is not as easy as you paint it. i know this because my parents have once been in such a situation. and while i am impressed at the way they managed it, i found the whole affair rather tedious.

in such a case as it is found that this cannot be easily done, other alternatives must be found. it is a matter which is simply to be discussed among the couple. but if i were to be in such a situation, the decision is clear, a third of the money she receives is to go to the family account. she is only allowed to keep a quarter. and she is not allowed to complain. as i am not allowed to. each individual must fit into their roles perfectly.

se fini

Ever hope to be? I hear you

I like the bolded question. It should be up to both parents to act in the best interest of the family however you should know that couples who cannot sacrifice for the greater good shouldn't be married in the first place

eni4real:
You will be great too it is a matter of time. How would you feel if ur daughter-in-law mention you in a ridiculous way? I'm sure you will be prospective in ur response at this point!
However, you have to get to this level in age and maturity before you can how hurtful it feels.
Who the man becomes is a function of who he has met and book he read, you can't attribute his annoying character to her mother's training alone @ ur last statement.

If I do something ridiculous, she can say/do whatever she likes

You seem to think I am one of the supposedly emotionally charged woman. I love consequences and I try as much as possible to be logical.

FYI, my brother was said women are not strong and I asked ‘so YOUR mother is not strong despite all what she has done and done through'. He changed his stance immediately and he was trying to justify the dumb sentence he made.

emusmith:
It's still not right to include his mum. She isn't your agemate.

I dide. He did when he generalised

He should have thought of that when he generalised. Blame him for being stupid.D not me

eni4real:
Mothers of that stature have been through a lot right from when they were young and agile combining family with works till they are in their menopause when the youthful strength wanes; yet they are relentless in being a pillar to their husband and a great achiever to their children. Forget it there is a wide gap between a newly wed and an accomplished grandma. She deserves her utmost respect and not some insolence.
Why not the guy's sisters?

And what makes you think that I wouldn't go through a lot for my family. I am a goal oriented lady. I believe ein sacrifices and I am going to make lots of it for my family.

What they have is time and before you know it I will be there. It is a journey I must go through as a woman. It does not make me less of a woman because I am just starting out.

If his mum were that great, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

CzarChris:
Interesting, I'm an only child too, and I received the very best of everything you can imagine, and today I'm not only the pride of my family, but a man that sees women like you for what you truly are. A bunch of old cargoes with an over-bloated sense of self.

Bla bla bla

I am very early in my twenties and I attend one of the best schools in the world....thanks to my wonderful dad and mum. I owe them to have a bloated sense of self, they didn't sacrifice everything for me to agree with foolish men.

I know they are proud of me

Teempakguy:
the rate at which you embrace money and wealth at the expense of more important issues is quite alarming and frankly, it portrays you as an overly materialistic person.

like you, i have experienced both sides of life, however, i learned a different lesson. that money really has nothing to do with happiness and satisfaction. those are determined by a much different characteristic. but that is by the way.

on the issue on ground.
there are more factors to consider before taking such a drastic decision. money is surprisingly not everything.

I am sorry I am ambitious. I love money and if it makes me materialistic, good. But so you know it does not make me a fool.

Money is not everything but it is as important as anything else. Would you say ego is much more important than money? Or comfort for your family. Do you think it is healthy to worry about money all the time? Do you think it is healthy for your kids to be conscious of money when you have good options.

Money is not everything but it sure guarantees comfort. A man who would rather keep his ego intact and watch his children attend a substandard school shouldn't be proud to call hifmself a father.

I am sincerely worried about you.

CzarChris:
Oh I'm just getting warmed up.

Goodluck to you

CzarChris:
Is that all you've got? I can see you have daddy issues, didn't daddy love you enough growing up? Aspect my condolence.

Unfortunately

I am dad's first and only. He dotes on me like mad and he has given all his best to make me the woman that I am today, including a woman that can stand up to hypocritical men like yourself with bloated sense of self

eni4real:
You cannot compare the glory of a mother of a 25+old with that of a mother who is yet to understand the nitty gritty of being a mother to a fully grown man. Ur sister in law is not on the same level as your mum. Mothers (Grandma to be) should be left out of our argument.

Lol

What is the difference

It is a matter of time and it does t change anything when it is definitely going to be the eventual result of being a woman.

If you want civility, act civil.

CzarChris:
I never called myself a gentleman here, now, did I?

Whatever

Don't use derogatory words on mother's if you don't want then saying the same about your mum. It is a fair game.

eni4real:
Guys don't often refer to the lady's dad when notoriety of "all men" are discussed. Why must ladies make reference to the guy's mother on an issue like this? it's an insolent approach.

Good for them. I hardly use most or all when I am referring to men.

Some men believe that it is a man's natural right to refer to all women as sluts and bitches. They asked for it and they should be happy with what they get.

I am not going to apologise nor am I going to feel bad about it

eni4real:
Of course i did verbal reasoning.
But this is not nursery school this is a reference to one's mother. A lady would have to be consistently great to be likened to one's mother. Stuff like this is practical and not by a mere inference.

Verbal reasoning isn't some nursery activity. It is part of logical and critical thinking. I am a soon to be mother and my sons will also see me as a great woman.


You know what they say ‘when you point a fimger you should remember that the other fingers are pointing right back at you'

Truckpusher:
And you keep living in that self denial.



Not at all ,I can relate with anybody even I'm not familiar with them

Special gift , huh!

I am not living in denial. In fact it took a personality test and some bitter truths to confirm it. I am special.


You have and before I tell you. You have to promise something in return

CzarChris:
bros eni, you just took the words out of my mouth. Once these biatches get that they've been had, you hear stuff like, " you do dz sh*t coz you don't like yo mama". . Though I don't believe in love, the closest thing I can relate to love in my life is my mum. So fuuuuuuccck dz witches up in here talking trash.
OP just got y'all served.

Is your mum a bitch? is she also a witch?

The best thing my son has got to love is me. You better watch your fingers

Teempakguy:
this post has nothing to do with anything.
for after all, what IS the goal?
proper nurturing of their offspring. is it not? in this case, egoism or money does not matter. what matters is the ability to get the job done. it really doesn't matter who resigns or not. it depends on the ability of the individual. now, as a natural African man, the husband will find it very difficult to be a house husband. it is easier said than done, damn it. how do you think the woman will be able to explain her husband's position as a jobless housekeeper to her friends, who probably have richer husbands, or her family, who will not hear of it, or even the random guy on the street who will most probably conclude that they are a crazy lot.
not to even mention what the kids think of the whole thing. don't you know kids discuss their parents with other kids? do you know how much of outcasts they will be when they have to explain to their mates that their mum is their father and that their dad is their mum?
not to even mention the unnecessary awkward moments that will occur every now and then, as well as the more serious ones. humans are mammals. not birds. the men are DESIGNED to win bread, and the women to care for the young. so what if she earns four times the husband's salary? there are families that survive on four times less than the husbands salary. whatever the value may be.

not everything is linked to money. the husband cannot simply resign because of mathematics. one must first ascertain the capabilities of such a man and how the family intends to cope with such a drastic role reversal. this is a much more complicated problem than you think it is. one does not simply tell the man to resign based on statistics.

Money is important where the family is involved. It is about quality of life. I have experienxed the goodpart of life and experienced 101 but with the little I have had, I am certainly going to choose quality of life over my ego. Would you rather live in a bungalow when you could leave in a duplex or eat protein almost everyday or send your kids to a better school, or an ego that shouldn't be there in the first place? You shouldn't talk about how unimportant money is unless you have it.

This is the more reason you shouldn't blame women who want rich men. I can marry almost any man including a disabled unless if he has a misplaced ego, no team spirit or nferiority complex. I have dreams and they include setting up trust funds for my kids at least, going on vacations and adventures together. My man must share in that dream and must be ready to sacrifice for that just like I will. I want a very comfortable life.

What other kids and friends? Those are not issues. Your friends will not talk to you unless ypu encourage them too. I am so over the society since like years ago, my happiness and quality of life is so much important than any other thing. Your kids will have the same mindset you encourage in your home.

eni4real:
Of course not. You can speak for yourself on how awesome you are and appreciated by people around you. However that does not apply to all ladies. It is abnormal to generalize that all females does "not worth it" but it is worse to take a swipe at a guy's mother to drive home a point. Two wrongs i guess.
I got ur point though.

It is not worse. It is simply an inference. If all ladies are this, then my mum must also be this.

Don't tell me you didn't do verbal reasoning in primary school?

CzarChris:
if calling out someone's mum in a discuss that doesn't involve her in the first place is one of the attributes of a lady, then I need to recheck the dictionary to see if the meaning of the word "LADY" has changed.

If calling out all mothers in a discuss that does not involve all of them in the first place is one of the attributes of a gentleman, then I need to recheck the dictionary to see if the meaning of the word ‘gentleman' has changed

eni4real:
That question is meant for his father not him.
He can only speak about his experience with contemporary ladies. You can't simply jump back through a generation and ask a guy "does your mum worth it?" it doesn't justify anything. Why don't u ask if his sisters worth it?
Mothers are special

I should have asked him to quiz his dad whether his mum was worth it. But it think it is more provocative to frame it the way I did

I enjoy provocation

Truckpusher:
The falling isn't for what you read or hear but the personality is all part that makes the man .

From his spoken voice to the way he carries himself is the personality .
Personality doesn't have a measurement but the man himself.

Personality? Yeah


But all these toasting nonsense is simply amusing and makes me wonder a lot. It won't even change the way I see you.








Do you feel like we know each other?

eni4real:
That question is meant for his father not him.
He can only speak about his experience with contemporary ladies .you can't simply jump back through a generation and ask a guy "does your mum worth it?" it doesn't justify anything. Why don't u ask if his sisters worth it? Mothers are special

I am a soon to be mum. I am special. Iam awesome. I don't deserve to be told that ‘she is not worth it because she is a female'. Do you think it is justifiable to say that to all mothers out there?

Truckpusher:
On the highlighted ,you're obviously lying to yourself and even your emoticon has betrayed your true feeling.
Of course women always think that all men are silly but it's that subconscious part of us that commands respect when you behold us , just like your queer nature attracts us.

I am not betraying myself. I am very unstable but to say that I fall for what I hear or read will be the biggest joke of the century. It is my personality. If I were a guy, I will be a play boy but I am a lady.

Teempakguy:
you are missing my point.
I'm not talking from an egoistic standpoint. like i earlier said, it is not hard to resign. it is something i can easily do.
i am talking from a realistic standpoint. from an idealistic worldview, once the man resigns, everything will go an smoothly. however, in real life, life hardly works in such a manner. complications do arise. and in fact, all i have said since is just one part of the problems. the other part is even more controversial.

From a realistic point of view, you will agree with me that it largely depend on the man. It is up to you to lie to yourself that she is cultured just because you want a pretty woman

Have you ever wondered what the family is like when men are solely providers? I don't think you have. It might surprise you to know that for some families, the men behave the same way you believe a wife will behave if she were the sole provider. And you should not make excuses for those men because they are the heads of theit families when you consider how little their wives must feel in their presence.

I am a goal oriented person and it is illogical and unreasonable to let ego or stupid natural roles to stop.both parties from having aa happy and financially stable family.

eni4real:
My emphasis is not on modern or ancient days. I was trying to say that it is an insult to ask a guy if he consider his mother as useless simply because of the guy's cliche of "these girls are useless". His mother worth a gold, a great personality that took care if him since childhood such disrespect must not be accorded to her. You can relate his assertion to his sisters but not to his mother.
Mothers are precious abeg.

Nah. Hs mum falls under the woman category and that is all that matters

If his mum is all that, he would realise that there are many ladies like his mum out there. He would also know that some men might once thought of his mum like that. Also, these little girls he is insulting are/would be mothers someday, do you think it is fair for him to insult other people's mothers just to get a point across.

You don't have to get all emotional, It was just a question

Truckpusher:
Stay where ? Women are just emotionally unstable in nature.
I believe that you're a lady and you understood what I'm saying.

If you have a brother that hates a particular boy in the neighborhood for some years , there is this likelihood that your brother might still have an axe to grind with him if they still exist in the same neighborhood but a sister and daughter is likely to love your worst enemy or family you have an axe to grind .

Though I look at it from a different angle , it is for the continuity of the human specie after all man is also an animal. The laws of natural selection cancels out everything.

I disagree with you. I am one of such women. I don't get moved, I get amused.

I have seen men who are close to people their wives can't stand. It goes both ways. I do agree that women are likely to do that but have you considered whether it is because they don't see what you see. They might think that the issue between you two is just childish and stupid.

Owliver:
i knew of a newly wedded couple then who did this some years ago. although the pay was like x3. guess what? they are divorced loooooooolz, no more respect. even the girl's mother disrespected him. dont try such stunt on a woman. especially black ones

A man that will never rise above his current position, I am sorry any reasonable man will pass on that.

Did you ask whether the man bothered to help out while his wife was at work? Or whether it was because he got so jealous of her success that he started to display childish behaviours?

Common sense you no get. Woe betide the woman that ends up with you