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ElevationD:
Akpakomiza again. Well this one no be Edo politics.

Like already mentioned, all those who coalesced against GEJ are getting the reward in kind. Nobody ever thought this coalition would come or. Here we are today, with many previously silent political bigwigs waking up to join.

Others long got their rewards with their losses. Next is the baba himself. Why not go and appease GEJ first? Maybe there something deeper about him that we need to know.

ElevationD:
That’s your opinion though. But as you already know, Nigerians are passing through the worst form of hardship ever known, since ten years. Do you want to hide and pretend?

esnbrutality:
Atiku will be nominated as the flag bearer and you can smash your head on concrete.

Stop wailing ceaselessly on this thread.

Anything but TINUBU.

Nonsense
Anything but atiku

DeepSight:
If Aisha says this, she is surprisingly ignorant that she will be helping BAT back to Aso Rock.

ElevationD:
As worse as you choose to describe him, he cannot be as horrible as APC/PMB/BAT.

ElevationD:
What about Tinubu himself? Is he not the master of making coalitions and switching parties?

If you do not have information, why continue the Atiku story as if others are saints? While they remain in one party, they sponsor candidates from other parties. Where did the word “placeholder” originate from?

Tinubu was in the AD party when he joined forces with the then APP to support Olu Falae in 1999.
In 2003, the odds were heavy against AD’s control in the SW. PDP was like a tsunami that swept AD away. Tinubu agreed with Obasanjo’s second term to secure his own seat as the state governor. He joined the coalition with Obasanjo for his own survival. His party -AD- agreed to support Obasanjo, a fellow Yoruba man to remain in power. He was very lucky, as it backfired against AD in the SW. They did not reckon that OBJ and Atiku had targeted to sweep AD out of power in the entire SW. I remember vividly how on election day, BAT was on the streets moving to secure polling booths. He was the only AD governor who escaped the political tsunami. Bisi Onabanjo, Niyi Adebayo, etc were naive and swept out of power. I recall Atiku saying the he simply allowed Tinubu to remain as governor in 2003, out of friendship. He nearly removed Tinubu!

Crisis between BAT and others in AD on one hand and Tinubu and Afenifere on the other hand, caused Tinubu to move on from AD to form AC, another party. It meant that Tinubu decamped from AD. Those of you who say he never decamped from a party live in illusion. Atiku was having issues with OBJ over his ambition. Tinubu teamed up with the same Atiku in 2006 to give Atiku the Presidential ticket. BAT needed a platform to project himself on the national level, as AD was known as a regional party. Atiku contested in 2007 on the platform of AC and lost to Yaradua. AC transformed to ACN. The next elections came up in 2011. ACN brought up Nuhu Ribadu as the candidate. While Ribadu was the candidate of his own party, the same BAT supported GEJ against his own party’s candidate. Recently, Jonathan’s wife told us how BAT supported her husband in 2011 against Ribadu and Buhari. The same master planner finally teamed up against GEJ in 2014. He formed a coalition with elements of PDP, chief among them was the same Rotimi Amaechi, El Rufai, etc. They all including Atiku were members of PDP at some points. He brought others from APGA, ANPP and baba go slow. They all formed the coalition to remove the then sitting GEJ.

Can we not see that everyone who joined forces against GEJ are getting the same measure of issues that they set up. BAT set up a coalition to remove him. Now a coalition has been set up to remove BAT himself. Just as GEJ was not allowed to serve out his second term, the coalition now is set up to stop BAT from having his second term.

What goes around, comes around everyone!

tunapawizzy:
No if the people and voters are too dumb to distinguish between APC and ADC, then they should continue suffering. Its high time we stopped making excuses for nonchallance, only blind people cannot distinguish between P and D. Besides they will have different logos.
Some will say illiteracy and old people, balderdash!!!

Bimpe29:
My brother, that is too early and excessively erratic.

nedekid:
Forget about atiku or failed dreams, that is simply a distraction. What is important and should be what concerns you and I is how to get this present locost called apc that has devastated our lives over the last 10 years out of power. Abi are you better than 10 years ago? If you are, most of us are not. Atiku, Tinubu, Obi and others are all made men, they and their generations cannot lack or want, what we should focus on is we and our generations. Anyone that will kick these apc charlatans out of power is welcomed.

Christlike01:
Again, I agree with you. The truth is that, barring any unforeseen circumstances, Tinubu will complete his eight-year tenure as President of Nigeria. You see the newly formed ADC—it will never work, head or tail; Tinubu still wins! Whether Atiku emerges as the party flag bearer or Peter Obi does (though I strongly doubt this), there will always be some obstacle preventing either of them from defeating Tinubu. As for Peter Obi, he has no chance—the North will never accept the emergence of an Igbo President of Nigeria. This may sound harsh, but it’s the truth. Let’s wait and see.

oyeb15:
It will remove him. You can't rig where u are not popular. Those fake 2million votes for APC in Bornu is over. He can't win any core northern state. Even d middle belt are not happy with d security under him. East will follow Peter Obi to ADC, south south is divided. Their unpopular governors don't swing votes. The only place he can win in south west is Ondo state. As for Ekiti,once d present governor get second term,he will decamp to ADC.

Faber:
Peter Obi coming to ADC is the greatest move by ADC

SE in the bag
SS will be shared
NE in the bag
NW in the bag
NC will be shared
SS will be shared

3 regions locked in for ADC...Omo e go choke o. David Mark the most influential politician from Benue State will bring in Benue votes...

ElevationD:
Now the coalition has more interested parties and much more formidable people. It has now gained prominence, and has come to stay.

APC faces a very formidable group.

fergie001:
In fact the ADC will be hoping the PDP having a Presidential Candidate is good especially from the South West.

E get why!

Christlike01:
I agree with you on this.

ElevationD:
Excuse me bro, do not live is self denial and illusion.
You seem to deliberately distort history. Tinubu told us the story himself several times. At his now very famous “emi lo kan” declaration in Ogun state, he repeated it. He said that Buhari contested several times and failed. He said that he went personally to Buhari and asked him not to lose hope. He said that he had studied the political barometer and done the arithmetics - borrowing from his friend Okadigbo - and concluded that if he could bring his northern votes, they would add to the Southwest votes, receive the little that they could from the SS and SE for victory. Buhari was not in control of Kano and Adamawa. Those were the jobs of Kwakwanso and Atiku. Were where you then?

You see Atiku and Obi teaming up and yet you are talking about one attempting to go it alone. Are you daydreaming? We do not expect such to happen, especially with the time so short.

We are not talking of 2015 and beyond. You called them expired, but forgot to tell us that Buhari had completely lost hope and surrendered. Tinubu relief on the anger in the land against PDP and GEJ. He saw the opportunity and capitalized on the disgruntled elements within PDP and the rest. You call Amaechi expired, yet forget the incidences of bombing and heavy shooting credited to Wike’s camp during the election to secure his victory, suppressing opponents with killings to secure victory. The Presidential elections in Rivers state always saw PDP with over one million votes. With all the so called Wike’s “war chest”, in 2023, APC scored less than 300k votes. What do you call that?

If Buhari was not expired, what makes you address Atiku as expired? If Buhari by your assumption is still relevant, what makes you think that Atiku is irrelevant? If Tinubu could beg Buhari to bring his northern votes as of 2011 to 2014, what more you think that Atiku cannot take his 2023 votes to 2027? By the way, what make you think that Obi has not retained his political base?

Politics as we always know involves patience, calculation, rest and watching out when to move. Those you called expired are bidding their time, as they know that their time will come again. Tinubu after he left the governor’s sit did not give up. He took his time, calculated, formed another coalition as he always does and won in 2014. Maybe if Ganduje joins the coalition after his recent hounding of by APC, you will call him expired too. Maybe if Kwakwanso decamps to APC, as speculated, you will not term him “expired”. Apart from Tinubu and noisy Wike, please mention others who are assert such influence within their states, not to talk of the federal level.

The same way Tinubu set up a coalition that was termed solid, you now find a re-emerging opposition. If you say such names as found in that list as expired, then you are simply deceiving yourself.

What I perceive is fear in you and an attempt to cover up your very clear fear.

Olumaeme:
Which hardcopies, the one that figures are changed?

Lol. Look at Rivers, Pleatue, Borno, even Lagos.

Up till date, the copies of form EC8A has not been released for Lagos.

The legal team of Obi didnt see it, the INEC REC refused to release it, that is the problem with this system.

Atiku dont need all the North to support him, SS/SE and part of NC were for Atiku. He also got a chunck from that North, aside from the abysmal performance of Buhari

Christlike01:
Atiku? We're talking about Buhari here, remember?

The APC is a coalition of different political parties formed to wrest power from Goodluck Jonathan—a Southerner. It's therefore only natural that there are more Northerners in the APC, as it were. The objective was to return power to the North.

In the same way, you'll see more Northerners in the newly formed ADC because the sole objective of that coalition is also to return power to the North. This is why Peter Obi, or anyone from the South, won't emerge as the party’s presidential candidate—note it down somewhere.

Christlike01:
Don't be too sure about that — Buhari is not just a politician; he has strong tribal and regional tendencies. He wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice Tinubu to protect those interests. That was exactly what he attempted during the party primaries, where Tinubu eventually emerged as the party's presidential candidate against all odds.

LagosOrigin:
ADC will unseat Tinubu in 2027 because all the people that helped tinubu to rig 2023 election are now in ADC

Christlike01:
How did you expect him to say being the party leader at the time? He said he had no anointed or preferred candidate which was the right thing to say as a leader but the obvious truth was that he did not want Tinubu to emerge as the party flag-bearer— his body language and actions attested to it.

TouchNfollow:
You are not laughing bro....you are actually peeing in your pants...CPC block just left Apc...the transfer window is open and we await the northern tsunami and implosion of apc.

Christlike01:
He did during the party's primaries! So tell me what has changed?

kolente:
An Arise TV presenter once praised President Tinubu for being very eloquent and I had to check again if it was just bias against the President.

Anytime the President makes a speech without reading from a teleprompter, I always wonder why sane people gathered and voted for him.

Even the ADC behind him from his body language has the looks of " here we go again".

PBAT is the only President in my adult life that won an election and people didn't jubilate on a large scale, infact people wore gloomy faces.

He definately is not Presidential and his excruciating painful policies makes it easy for him to be more unpopular.

ibechris:
Almost is not a definite answer...u are competing with someone like Peter Obi...u won't be able to win Benue,Abuja Taraba,Gombe,Nasarawa,Kogi with a formidable northerner like Elrufai supporting them...especially now that the CPC faction of the APC have left them,even Kaduna go hard them let alone Kano that Gandujes spokes person has started endorsing the ADC.

Can we talk about another topic pls.

ElevationD:
Akpakomiza my friend, wake up and refresh your memory.

Buhari was termed expired after he lost to GEJ in 2011. Atiku was termed as expired from 2003 when OBJ benched him and he lost to Yaradua in 2007. El Rufai was termed as noting when he was benched. Amaechi was termed as caged by Wike in 2014. The mentioned and others formed a coalition like this, to unseat a sitting President Goodluck Jonathan.

They were termed expired and irrelevant, including your Tinubu. Can you please tell us how it happened?

ibechris:
I live in one of the north central states...is it Benue that they would clear,or Abuja or even Nasarawa thry lost to Ombugadu before they used Court to grab it or even Niger state...just be specific the north u are talking about.

If u say kwara I might agree with u but...

North Central...let me even ask u,if ur brother was among those in Benue and Plateau state...would support the same people that promised to protect u?

Leave the matter for Nigerians.

ArmaniUhuru:
This ADC squad is mad sha. See heavyweights. Apc go collect for 2027. They ain’t seen anything yet. By next year, the defections will render PDP useless.

Maxymilliano:
Prof Osunbor is also coming to ADC ?

This is highly commendable if true.

My brother from Iruekpen

eldoradoxx:
The Northern wing of APC will all colasce into ADC the way I am seeing. Mass defection to ADC from APC looms.

Christlike01:
I can bet anyone — Buhari is a member of the coalition too! And please,note this down somewhere; Obi is not getting its ticket — it's North versus South. Believe it or not,Tinubu is several miles ahead of these people — e go shock them!

ibechris:
APC can't win any state in the entire north.

Elrufai said,Tinubu is a one term president,tribalists said he is politically irrelevant and has no electoral value.

Now,it is becoming glaring now that everything is working against the APC.

APC WOULD SOON BECOME ACN.