₦airaland Forum

firstEVA:
hahahahaha, blame it on the Yorubas for giving all their children Tunde as name.

Btw I love yorubas

fratermathy:
This is getting too old and stale.

While I do not support totally embarrassing HND graduates and denying them of promotions, appointments and a chance to make a successful career, it should be noted that HND and B.Sc/B.A/B.Agric/B.Tech/LL.B/B.Fisheries/MBBS/DVM are different and the dichotomy must be emphasised.
HND is a technical diploma. It is technically not even a Degree but a National Diploma. B.Sc and its other appellations are the recognised standard for academic, theoretical and career based jobs and appointments. That is not to say HND cannot be used. It is just that HND is better off for handy middle-levelled and technical jobs/careers. The whole essence of HND is to make sure that there are middle-levelled skilled people in the society that can be called upon and relied on for their technical expertise. University graduates are seen as having done a theoretical study with much intellectual rigour and are, thus, deemed to have a high intellectual acuity for certain professions and careers. This must be known and not relegated. No matter how much sentiments come in and no matter how much we try to equate these certifications, the sacrosanct fact is that they are not the same. As long as one is a "Diploma" and another is a "Degree", they can NEVER be treated equal and same.

On the issue of Shell equating HND with Third Class, I have iterated in the previous paragraph that HND is not seen as an intellectually inclined degree but rather as a technically inclined diploma. Having a Distinction in HND only proves that you have an excellent technical expertise, perhaps even beyond that of University Degree holders. However, this does not translate into the fact that you are intellectually buoyant enough to stand a University First Class product. It doesn't add up. For one, our Nigerian Polytechnics operate a 4 points GPA system as opposed to the 5 Points used in our Nigerian varsities. Secondly, the units of courses taken in HND programmes are far lower, both individually and cumulatively, when compared with a University. Thirdly, the course contents in Polytechnics are peripheral and elementary as opposed to that of a University! Fourthly, the calibre of academic staff and their standing is much lower than that of a University. For one, a Polytechnic cannot have a Professorial Cadre! Polytechnics usually have substandard facilities and make-shift labs and instruments. All these come together to haunt the graduates of Nigerian Polytechnics!

The solution to all these bifurcations is easy. Polytechnics should be made to award a B.Tech rather than an "Ordinary" or "Higher" diploma. Polytechnic facilities should be overhauled and made to standards. The Professorial Cadre, alongside its competitive and cumbersome "floating" process, should be introduced to the Polytechnics. Polytechnics should employ the 5 or more Points GPA system and courses should be well developed, standard and carry higher units! In fact, the term "Polytechnic" should be hijacked from parlance and replaced with University of Technology or any other soothing appellation. We should always strive to follow the UK pattern in our technological pedagogical system.

Finally, on the issue of ostracization and stigmatization, I believe it is only Nigerian Legislative Bodies that can end this once and for all. As long as they are comfortable with it, nothing will change! Let's just stop flogging this issue and look forward to better things! This issue has been discussed, ignited and quenched severally since Nigerian employers' decisions to employ preferential treatments! It is time we either take drastic measures or simply let it go as we have always done.

#MyTake
Mr. Baminasri, I am sorry about your plight! Your best is yet to come. I'd advise you to get a PGD and possibly a Masters though.


CC:
Freemanan, Freeemanan, Goodboiy, Scholes0, LordAdam; What do you think?

halfrica:
Beautiful women

God as i grow add to my beauty

Amen!!!!!!!!

ARIZONA123:
. Yeah confused but we are dominating you bastardts at ur own domain. It sucks and hurts to be Yeriba

lastpage:
Let the deluded He-Goat be ranting on something that is already dead and buried since 1970!

exxell:
Blame the North.... The Arewa republic has always been a blood nation from time immemorial. Nature will judge us if we don't divide this zoo called Nigeria sooner than later and every tribe be on their own like it were before this zoological republic of Nigeria was a created after British invasion. A nation of criminals, rapists, drug pushers, inbreeders, Paedophiles, Ritualists, terrorists and what have you. Personally, I dream of a Biafran nation were all these will be a thing of the past... A biafran nation were the Muslim religion will be an Anathema and a taboo just as it is Japan!!

Meanwhile, if you are a Biafran apologist like me (Non Violence)... Read Below!

Before reading, I deem it necessary to state that I am not an IPOB member and will never be one. But heavens be my witness when I say this.... "I AM A BIAFRAN/IGBOLAND APOLOGIST AND WILL DEFEND ITS TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY EVEN WITH MY BLOOD WHEN CALLED UPON. SO HELP ME GOD". I SUPPORT BIAFRA AND WILL BE HAPPY TO SEE IT ACTUALIZED.. SO HELP US GOD!

Back to the matter. I have read with dismay on so many write ups and misconceptions about the Biafran issue. This post is meant to clear the minds of some political commentators on Nairaland especially those from Yorubaland and Northern Part of Nigeria. I read one topic on Nairaland front page some time ago about the Itsekiris denying biafra? I was like... WTF? In the current fight for the Actualization of the country of the Igbo Man and Igboland, were Itsekiris ever included? Has Itsekiri stopped being a sub Yoruba language? Or are they deluded to think that the Biafran style we want is the Nnamdi Kanu style? No.... Not at all! Biafra will come... But not the Nnamdi Kanu way or his map of Biafra. Biafra will come when the trained lawyers and judges who will negotiate for us at the UN assembly is ready. When they will be ready is what I dont know. But will they ever be ready? The answer is capital Yes. Will Biafra (Igboland) ever come? CAPITAL YES! I am certain about that beyond every reasonable doubt. It may take 10, 20 years... But it will surely come. Biafra will come through fiercely legitimate means and through the law. Mark that part. On that note, let me clear the myth about Biafra.

First and Foremost, it is pertinent to state that the Biafran struggle is an IGBO fight comprising strictly of all Igboid speaking languages ALONE. No other tribe whether in the North, South South, South West or Middle Belt is included. Other minority tribes who are joining in the clamour for Biafra are doing it at their own will.

When I talk about the Igboid speaking languages, this includes but not limited to Anambra, Imo, Abia, Ebonyi, Enugu, Some Parts of Delta especially Anioma, Agbor. Some parts of Rivers state especially Ikwerre, Ndoki, Etche etc and finally some parts of Edo especially the Igbankes. The people who are mentioned in parts may also be expected to join by referendum like the Ndokis, The Ikwerre, The Etches, The Igbankes et al. They can still decide to be part of Nigeria or join the Niger Deltas. It will not be a forced inclusion.

Let me also categorically state that The current real struggle for the liberation of Biafra does not include the Izon, Ibibio, Efik, Annang, Itsekiri, Isoko, Urhobo. These groups mentioned are matured enough to stay on their own. Even if they must join, it is strictly by agreement and laid down rules which includes but not limited to the giving up of their lands and swearing to abide by Biafran laws. I will now state my reasons for calling on every Igbo man to jettison the idea of including the above tribes in the Biafran struggle. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT EVERY IGBO SON AND DAUGHTER WHO SUPPORTS THE ACTUALIZATION OF BIAFRA READS THIS AND THINKS DEEP TOO WHILE READING THIS PART.

Firstly, It is sad to state it but is very obvious that the country our forefathers fought for in the 60s comprising of different ethnic groups including but not limited to Igbo, Izon, Ibibio, Efik, Annang, Itsekiri, Isoko, Urhobo,etc will as at today not work as one united country. This might be bitter but sadly true but look at it from the bright side, no one wants a mini Nigeria and more especially with people hardwired to (OUR OYEL).

Secondly, Nigeria is a fraudulent creation no doubt and any reasonable person would want to opt out of this union and the only way I see it happening is by mutual understanding of the tribes that make up Biafra. A mutual understanding to pull out of Nigeria and become the way we were before the invasion of Britain into our lands and before the marriage. It is imperative to state then that;

1.) Every tribe shall go there separate ways at the actualization of the struggle.

2.) Every "Proudly" Igbo group who wishes to join The republic of Igboland shall do so with there people and there Lands.

3.) If other tribe namely (Izon, Ibibio, Efik, Annang, Itsekiri, Isoko, Urhobo) wishes to form ther own country (which i consider another nigeria but really it isn't my business), they can do so.

4.) Clear boundaries most the discussed and be a major priority.

[b[The last but not the least reason for saying that we should stop attaching other tribes to the Biafran struggle is judging from the lessons of History.[/b] History has it documented about the sabotage and betrayals the Igbos suffered during and after the Biafran war from these so called minority tribes in the South South. Examples include but not limited to; The Ken Saro Wiwa betrayal, The case of abandoned property which is not resolved yet and the probability of these people pulling out to form another country when they pretend to join us achieve it. Let me explain;

Dear Igbo brothers and sisters, do we really think that these tribes from the Niger Delta are foools? You really think that they love us? Please, forget about all these minority tribes you see online and offline pretending like they love and need us! The truth of the matter is that they never loved us and will never love us. Eg are the Ijaws. They only want us to achieve their needs. The average Niger Delta citizen is hardwired to our OYEL! But due to their minor numbers and population, they can't really do or achieve much TO PROTECT THESE OYEL AND EXPLOITATION OF THEIR LANDS. [b]What then is their game plan? Its simple... Pretend like they love the Igbos, Achieve Biafra together, Go to the backdoor and sign a deal with Nigeria, THEN PULL OUT TO FORM THEIR OWN COUNTRY! Just ask yourself this simple question, Do we really think that these people don't want their own nation?

Personally, am not against them having their own country. Rather, what am against is hoodwinking the Igbo nation that they love them in order to use us divide Nigeria and then Bolt out! This is the hard truth! The minority tribes are aware that left on their own, they can never defeat the Yorubas, Hausa-Fulani and Nigeria at Large. So my dear Igbo brothers, bear this important information at the back of your mind! They only need us to divide Nigeria and then bolt out.

In the absence of this understanding, then I urge my Igbo brethren to drop the biafra ambition which would probably be sabotaged again and join the Hause-Fulani and Yorubas in this game of thrones called Nigeria, loot all the lootables, grab all the grabables and suck all the suckables till nothing is left. Forget all these change Brouhaha. Buhari is leading this country to death. The way Nigeria is going down, we shall soon hit oil! I am certain about this beyond all reasonable doubt! Before you doubt and swallow me based on propaganda they keep on feeding you, look around you and ask if there is real change! Ask yourself whether there was a real change or a change in the method of looting!

IGBOS LISTEN AND LISTEN GOOD! WISE UP AND ACT FAST. LET US ALL JOIN HANDS AND FORM A BIAFRA THAT WE MAKE US PROUD STRICTLY FOR IGBOS ALONE! IF YOU DONT KNOW IT, KNOW IT NOW THAT THE YORUBAS AND HAUSA FULANI WILL NEVER ALLOW US RULE THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY WILL KEEP ON CHANGING THEMSELVES. JUST CHECK IT OUT... FROM OBASANJO TO YAARDUA TO JONATHAN (BY LUCK) AND THEN BACK TO BUHARI. PREVIUOSLY, FULANI MILITIA MEN HAVE BEEN RULING THIS COUNTRY! We clear have the numbers to play but waste in on sentiments.

N.B
Some of the Ideas in this write up were borrowed from Observant.

OZAOEKPE:
Can you compare your political ooni that feeds on bribe to the great oba of benin, that can damn any president? As long as the they choose the king base on 'my turn', and not like that of the benin kingdom, them the ooni of Ife throne is and will remain a joke

aleem50:
I felt the same when I discovered that his Dad is still alive. But come to think of it in this perspective, his father can not be less than 70years which I am very sure, so if his dad is made the king, he won't live longer on the throne like his predecessor. So fielding a younger candidate is for the good of Giesi ruling house. Though Allah knows who is gonna live longer than the other but the young king has a better chance of staying longer on the throne than his Dad.

Sijo01:
Cute
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But I don't understand why a son will be crown king when his father is still alive. What a tradition!

trapQ:
Solutions

-quality education
_discard islam and sharia (their religion teaches them to be backward)
_build industries (this will create jobs and reduce poverty)
- encourage commercial or large farming
-stop depending on oil allocations

Basically everything else.

magmack:
Ugly Scratchface. What is ur own? U n who be nigerian? Fraudsters everywhere

Benwems:
Shut up yoruba boy. What has niger delta got to do with you. Idiot

bayulll01:
Liar yorubas don't do politics of bitterness like my people from aligbo.

We got ally in the north,which are,kwara,kogi even to benue.

We got ally in the south south edo,the urhorobo,itsekiri and the ilajes

U are telling me those one will vote for ibo,when they are all distributed in the western region,we will drive them out.

bayulll01:
Liar yorubas don't do politics of bitterness like my people from aligbo.

We got ally in the north,which are,kwara,kogi even to benue.

We got ally in the south south edo,the urhorobo,itsekiri and the ilajes

U are telling me those one will vote for ibo,when they are all distributed in the western region,we will drive them out.

saintandsinnerz:
You are not getting it right! You are assuming that 1+1 for politics equals 2. That's not it, in politics parties calculate what best method can help them to clinch power. Your assertion that if APC for example decides to field a southern candidate that PDP will also do the same is a big fallacy. Politics is a game of probabilities and chance. The nothern minorities as you called them are minorities; they don't control or dominate the politics in the north.
I don't know what you mean that the Igbos voted against Buhari because of their hatred for him, while the yorubas voted for good governance. Really? How do you arrive at such conclusion? Do you have any evidence to prove this? If you don't, then I will take it as another wild generation without basis. The thesis of my argument is that until the southern region amend their differences occasioned by the last election, then my claim may become a reality

saintandsinnerz:
And you sincerely believe that if APC fields a christian Yorubaman or Igboman for the presidency and the PDP fields a Northern muslim, that the North will leave the Northern muslim and vote for the Christian candidate? If your answer to this is yes, i will conclude that you are not a student of the Nigerian politics. As it is now, it will be hard for any Southern candidate to win the presidential election in Nigeria except the Southerners amend their differences. More so, the only saving grace for the Southerners is if the two major parties decides on their own to field all Southern candidates, then the North will not have option and choose any of the candidates. But it won't be easy for that to happen simple because each political party wants to be in power. If for example come 2019, Buhari decides not to contest and APC decides to give their ticket to a christian Yoruba man, and PDP adopts a northern muslim candidate; do you think the North will vote for the yoruba man? Hahaha, if you think then i will say you should wake up. You know if the North vote massively for their own, then it requires another block vote for their candidate to win the election. And the way the last election divided the South, i can tell you a lot of SS ans SE people will prefer to go for the Northern candidate than the Yoruba candidate just to get back at them.
Your claim that APC, will rule for 20 years is just an empty statement so i wont comment on it. Bear my write up, i was busy when writing this

saintandsinnerz:
And you think that any Yoruba man or anyone from the South will rule Nigeria in long time to come? The South is sharply divided, the Southwest, Southeast and Southsouth are not in good terms. It maybe hard to sell a Yoruba candidate in the Southeast and Southsouth owing to the bad blood the past election has generated. The same way a 'Southeastener' or a Southsouth candidate will be hard to sell in Southwest. The North will continue to rule Nigeria for the foreseeable future until the Southern region amend their differences. Though it won't be easy as a lot of damage has already been done.

alcatraz002:
I am sure any one who wants to be honest with himself will admit that a consensus had been reached as the most hated tribe in Nigeria. The Igbo's are hated from south to north, west to North Central.

When I say the ibos have gotten themselves into a wrestling bout with their chi (god) by taking on the Yoruba, they thought I was joking.

Anybody can go through all the threads in politics section and see the amount of a hate threads directed at the Igbo's. it's only symptomatic of the level of hate we have for these hate mongering biafrans from the evil erosion ridden, red mud infested, evil forest proliferating Biafra. We yorubas will bury you in propaganda and media warfare not to forget economic bombardments. The north will slaughter you at every given opportunity if you misbehave. Igbos really have no where to run to as. you have burnt your bridges in this County. All these sufferings are self inflicted.

Your online clamour for biafra has been busted as Yoruba youths have been at the forefront of the actualisation of Biafra online for the past few weeks as a way to demonstrate to igbos that we don't want you in the Southwest again but you all always betray your avowed love for Biafra by saying we can't push you out of Lagos as long as Nigeria remains one. The foregoing has revealed that you all are not to be taken seriously in the larger Nigerian socio political setup. We (Yoruba Nairalanders) still maintain our offer of help to actualize Biafra for our Igbo brothers through whatever help we can render.

As we go into this week where the Ministers will be unveiled to Nigerians, I will save that except Chukwuma Soludo gets the Finance Portfolio, the igbos will get the short end of the stick again because you can't reap where you didn't sow. Heck even soludo will get the job through General Obasanjo's lobbying and influence, so igbos are really insignificant in this country. The battle continues for you on all fronts.

I hope all igbos are satisfied at the amount of heat being turned up by the the hitherto indifference Yoruba Youths on this forum alone? The mainstream media also belongs to us hence, you are bombarded on all sides. It really is not palatable being Igbo these times. We won't stop but keep on Awolowo's vision for the Great Yoruba nation where we subdue our Southern enemies and see them vanquished.

Have a nice week ahead.

olatunji21:
Don't know of other places but here in Agbowo Ibadan, it's been relatively stable....Infact since last Sunday i don't tink dere's been power cut for up to 10hrs from a possible 84hrs......

Keziah100:
You are uselessly foolish

new2020:
Shattap...we don't deny that most Kwarans are yorubas. We are not deceitful or divisive as you people are. The opinion we have of Kwara is...Fulani conquered and subdued the yorubas in Kwara. It's now a Fulani state with an Emir! That's it...simple!

tonychristopher:
Thanks for this clarifications


I think that I he odua states are okay and Ilorin should be included