₦airaland Forum

OduaVanguard:
Alaafin as paramount ruler of his people represented them by cutting a deal with the Brits, to spare them from an unnecessary war and further needless loss of lives. You call that cowardly, I call that PRAGMATIC LEADERSHIP/WISDOM! ATLEAST HE WAS FORTHRIGHT AND HONOURABLE ENOUGH TO KNOW WHEN TO STOP FIGHTING!

Ojukwu RAN AWAY!!!! He didn't even negotiate a peaceful end to the suffering of his helpless people, whom he duped into a NEEDLESS and WORTHLESS war! In the end nothing was achieved that couldn't have been achieved via negotiations. Think about it -- those 3-million souls could be alive today and living productive lives. Use your brain for once!

Pragmatic wisdom to you guys is surrendering without firing a single bullet as soon you saw Hausa soldiers.

Governor Carter was not the man to leave his work half done. The refractory and irreconcilable Ijebus had been subjeugated; the Egbas had submitted and their apologies accepted. He now proceeded to the further interior to put an end to the protracted war, fraught with so much evil to the country. The measure adopted for this purpose was the only one capable of dispersing suchfierce combatants, viz., an armed intervention advocated for by the writer all through these wearisome years. Although it might not be necessary to pull a trigger, yet a display of force offered a far more convincing weight of argument than volumes of treaties, faultless though these may be in aim and purpose. The presence of the Governor himself gave additional weight and importance to the Mission. Governor Carter left Lagos on the 3rd January 1893, for his tour. He was accompanied by a posse of Hausa soldiers, with Captain Bower, one of the officers who came out for the Ijebu war. The Maxim gun was en evidence throughout the whole way.

Samuel Johnson, History of the Yorubas, 1921

scholes0:
Okay, since you choose to show your maturity , back to your questions...
What exactly is a "struggle".... A struggle is dictated by the prevailing conditions of the time.
If the conditions change, needs follow suit, and if needs change, the definition of a "struggle" will undergo a proportional and almost instant metamorphosis .... Are you following?
The struggle of the Yoruba in Today's Nigeria is not the same as the struggle of the 1800's or 19'00s ..... that should be obvious.

So unless you are talking about something else, I believe i have adequately nourished your hunger for answers..... if at all it is genuine.

I agree with the bolded but it is the same yoruba gene that is doing the struggle and the only thing it is good at is taking bribes to betray. From your alaafin in 1888 to today's turncoat SW pdp, passing through awolowo, the obas against Abiola, etc, etc.

OduaVanguard:
If you call that betrayal, what do you then call Ojukwu's abandonment of his people for the safe comforts of the Ivory Coast? You people are hopeless. Period. Smh.

Ojukwu fought a war with his own money. Alaafin sold out his people for 20 bags of cowshit.

OduaVanguard:
You are a big ffool Mr. I have made my position about your desired secession from Nigeria clear. I don't give two ffucks about you or your people. You are adding any value to me personally nor to Nigeria as a collective, IMHO. The Oil you keep blabbing about belongs to the South South peoples for the most part and the SE contribution is negligible (at best) -- at least it's not enough to raise you lot out of poverty.

Your SE is a depressing locale to inhabit as is evident in the way you all escape from that hell-hole at the slightest opportunity.

You talk about my "forbearers were cowards for having a worthless cause". That aptly describe the entire Biafra enterprise. A pipe-dream that resulted in the slaughter of an estimated 3million Igbos, who ended up losing the war, and your Ojukwu had to leave you all to your fate by absconding to the Ivory Coast (puts the 'C' in coward). My people refused to be duped into a war we weren't prepared to fight -- that is SMART. While you all sacrificed yourselves for a WORTHLESS CAUSE. I call it worthless coz (1)it failed, (2)you were soundly defeated. Face it, you are nothing but a bunch of failures.

If "a bunch of failures" can get you worked up like this, you are worse than failure. Of what use is your existence if I may ask?

sigain:
Oleeeeee, go look for your own lagoon in the east if there's any and stop dreaming in another tribes belonging. south south no belong to u. counterfeit pple.

I though you people wanted us in the Lagoon? Anyway stop selling your land to us.

This is how Alaafin of Oyo sold out and pacified his kingsmen for 200 bags of cowries.

Treaty between Adeyemi, Alafin of Oyo and Head of Yoruba-land and Her Majesty, Queen of Great Britain and Ireland, July 1888

I, Adeyami, Alafin of Oyo and Head of Yoruba-land, the four corners of which are and have been from time immemorial known as Egba, Ketu, Jebu and Oyo, embracing within its area that inhabited by all Yoruba-speaking peoples, being desirous of entering into, and maintaining for ever, friendly relations with the subjects of Her Majesty, the Queen of Great Britain and Ireland, and of developing the resources of Yoruba by means of legitimate trade with the subjects of Her Majesty and those under her protection or who may hereafter come under her protection, and in gratitude for what the Queen has at so much expense and risk to life done from time to time for my country, have at this day at the city of Oyo in the presnece of witnesses declared my intention of abiding by the following articles:

I. From henceforth there should be peace and friendship between the subjects of Her Majesty the Queen and those under her protection, and the Alafin of Oyo and King of Yorubaland and his people, and all other peoples over whom he has authority and influence.

II. The subjects of the Queen may always trade freely with the people of Oyo, and the Yoruba-speaking countries in every article they may wish to buy and sell, in all towns, rivers, creeks, waters, markets and places within territories known as Yoruba: and I, Adeyemi, pledge myself to show no favour and to give no privilege to the traders or people of other countries which I do not give or show to those of the Queen.

III. British subjects and others under the Queen's protection are to have the first consideration in all trade transactions with my peoples.

IV. No tolls, duties, fees, imposts or charges shall be charged or levied upon the person or property of any British subject or other person under Her Majesty's prtoection other than and beyond that or those which are customary and reasonable, or may from time to time be agreed upon to be so levied or charged by the Governor of Lagos and myself.

5. I will not allow any disputes that may arise between people frequenting or visiting the markets in my territory to interfere with or stop the markets; and all differences or disputes that may arise other than trade disputes between my peoples and those of other nations and tribes visiting the markets shall be adjusted by me or referred for adjustment and settlement to the decision of an arbitrator appointed by the Governor of Lagos, and the decision and award of such arbitrator shall be finally conclusive.

6. I engage as far as in me lies to bring about new markets between the Oyos and toher Yoruba-speaking peoples, to promote the enlargement of existing ones, and to keep open all the roads through my kingdom to the Niger, and towards the coast.

7. It is hereby further agreed that no cession of territory and no other Treaty or Agreement shall be made by me other than the one I have now made without the full understanding and consent of the Governor for the time being of the said Colony of Lagos.

8. In consideration of the faithful observance of the foregoing Articles of the Agreement the Government of Lago will make unto me a yearly dash to the value of 200 (two hundred) bags of cowries, but such dash may upon breach or neglect of all or any one or more of the provisions of the Agreement and at the discretion of the Governor of the Colony of Lagos be altogether withdrawn or suspended.

Sealed and signed at Oyo this 23rd day of July 1888.

Betrayal is in their genes!

OduaVanguard:
You are loser and a failure, that much I believe is obvious. You've been put to shame for being stewpid enough not to put Google to use and educate yourself adequately before embarrassing yourself by opening this thread.

You can go ffuck yourself and your "Crude Oil". Matter of fact, you can drink that worthless piece of shytt you call oil coz it won't be worth much in the near future any way. And oh, while you're at it you can also put your money where you mouth is by relocating yourself and your entire clansmen from Nigeria territory back to your cursed erosion-infested waste-land, maybe then we'll begin take you seriously. Ode oshi.

Ewu n'ebe akwa my host have mercy. I will soon remove myself from your midst and relocate to the lagoon. Just don't come and claim the lagoon later after I develop it.

Lazy, lazy, lazy, lazy.
Ose, ose baba, ose baba

op, don't you know the yorubas are the hosts? How can visitors imprison the hosts?
Yorubas were only hosting the british and as such there was no need for opposition.

shikaan:
when a child is learning how to walk, he does not start with running first. should in case he dint walk until he was 20, yet in learning how to walk he wont beginning with running! even though his age mates may be olumpic gold medalists!!

Except if he's a cripple in which case he'll never run.

slimfit1:
It looks like Tesco not airport.

STFU

Our hosts

This is for Police but why is the place full of soldiers?

merengue:
You don't have a clue do you? Where was faith when their hynies were being torn by the crazy sons of perdition who were probably high on adrenaline and other substances? How many people adopt kids in Nigeria with all the stigmatization and derision? Please, the UNFPA's plan is sound abeg; give these girls a chance to live their lives completely detached from all reminders of the dark days spent under Boko Haram. This is why I believe gay marriage should be allowed & gay couples encouraged to adopt unwanted babies.

You know that if we abort rape pregnancies, 90% of northern babies would be aborted.

freecocoa:
Go and quote this nonsense in church, they are talking serious issue you are quoting bible.

What happened to the countless women who died during child bearing? Mschew.

LOL,

This is why I give all glory to Satan

kemback2220003:
Later one idiot will tell you that Biafra is an igbo thing alone, because of oil,

I like how saro wiwa saw the light, literally

mayorkyzo:
I've always said it and I'm not tribalistic the average hausa/fulani has violence running in their veins..ready for confrontation at any minute..they are like chained beasts just waiting to be unleashed...such a pity I'm in the same country with those animals....quote me and die...

And when they were confronted they sent middle-beltans, our hosts, the british, the russians and the Arab league to fight for them
Stop spreading the myth, only the lazy host's media sing the praises of their abokki masters

So our hosts ran away and left their lands for abokkis to defend?

Lazy coward hosts

It was going well until he started calling god.

Amebo.

36 na old cargo.

Beremx:
Good for him. This time,he took the right decision. He should just retire to Otuoke and enjoy his stolen wealth.

Why the X?

When I saw NGF, I thought it meant new girl friend.

Op, please shut up. Asari Dokubo is not the president of Niger Delta.

socialmediaman:
Saudi would have a role to play in this, but with oil exploration going on in countries like the US, it's not gonna be an easy task. Even if countries were to agree on this, it will end up in a quota system that may not Favour production targets...

US is their big headache because it is private corporations, not the govt, that exploit shale gas. So as long as there's profit to make, they'll kee fracking. The only thing that will stop them is low price.

Problem is that even at $65, we are having problem finding buyers for the oil.

barcanista:
The truth is BITTER! If you can't fault my points then you need to allow me space. You think you can do something without reference to the law? You think you can reduce number of Ministers without amending the part of the constitution that says a minimum of 36 Ministers? You need knowledge!

They sent a lying certificateless coup plotter to the presidency. So, yes they believe the constitution to be meaningless.

An illiterate will be in charge of this country. SMDH.

Our hosts.