₦airaland Forum

Funkymallam:
And ur point is that Nigeria is damn poor that we cant maintain common 24 aides for our president. Smh

here again, Barack Obama have 454 aides. . . .

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/obama-white-house-salaries-soar.html

Let the battle continue.

Haba, that is not my point

My point is we should stop comparing ourselves with american because there is no bases for the comparison

and we should humble ourselves. I mean if the 24 aids are necessary then by all mean they should go for it but it is not necessary or they can cut back, then they should do so as well.

There is no point in saying if america can afford 24 aids, then we should do the same. That there is a bad mentality.

The government has to rule not only through visible infrastructures but also a leader has to rule physiologically by leading by example

if you want to increase the pains of the people, then you also have to show them you are going through the same and not just be words

I hope you understand what I mean

Nchara:
You are so so ignorant about the facts. BTW, Igbos aint leaving until Nigeria separates. So if you want Lagos left alone by Igbos, you know what to do.

as for you, what do you want them to do ? discriminate against Igbos ?

STFU if you do not know what to say before you start instigating hate

I wonder why someone would ask such question.

The so called first class citizens today are not better off anyone so what is the bases of the comparison of calling someone a second class citizen ?

We do have mo.rons in this country I no go lie. You are either in UK or USA and would you want the true owners of those countries to call you second class citizen ? No , not to talk of your own country.

Igbos as of today remain the cord of our micro economy in Nigeria today.

The chemist in ayetoro village or zuru villages in kebbi is likely to be Igbo. Imagine if the nearest doctor to you is 20 miles away, it is the chemist you go first to meet. That is hope important they are

Nigeria as the most populous black nation full of resources both human and minerals have no Indigenous car manufacturer. The first is Innoson and he happens to be Igbo.

How can you call such people as second class citizen.

The first class citizens are not better off. Infact in some cases it should be the reverse.

RUBBISH TOPIC

aurenflani:
@ POINTB - GO SWIM INSIDE D LAKE OF CRUDE OIL IN D NIGER DELTA SLUM. YOU WANT US TO ABANDONED THE TRUTH (ONE GOD) TO STRAY INTO FOLLOWING A THREE IN ONE gods! STUUPIID IDOLATOR.

I wonder why you are talking a bigot serious. I really hoped people would ignore this thread

The dude is drunk tonight. typical

Funkymallam:
Bros hw far? These guys r just insincere, lets see hw they prove d more important role Michelle plays compares to a president. If not slavery mentality, worshipping d west.

LOL more important role depends on prospectives.

Of course in Nigeria GEJ has the most important role.

werepeLeri:
The most silly thing an adult of sound mind will say - "Michele Obama is technically more important in America than GEJ is in Nigeria"

Hmmm - Silly people have a way to show themselves.

Please I did not point out GEJ, stop this ur lies.

Funkymallam:
Hmmm. So u guys mean the president of Nigeria ia a 'noboday'?
That a ceremonial first lady is more busy than d leader of d most populous black nation?
That a first lady deserves to have aides more than Our president?


Its terrible hw some of us think, u want to tell me that Chad, Niger, Ghana, Senegal and other dnt have aides for their president?
This is pure hate and very sentimental.

Again, read that link again and see hw many other first ladies in her post had. Most had just one aide, and does that mean they were never in office?
Pls, learn to criticize across boad and stop being sentimental.

There is no slave mentality there, what is it is what is it

"Cut your coat according to your size" is what they say not "cut your coat according to others sizes"


Nigeria is most populous black nation in the world, and so what ? What have we achieved with that population other than terrorism and militancy, killer roads, primary school standard federal universities, fraud, tribalism , etc

Until we start telling ourselves the truth and acting appropriately then we are not going anywhere.

Take this analogy for example

As a father that has your children school fees pending, would you use the little saving you have for aids or would you invest in your children's future.

Again my friend there is no bases of comparison. Nigeria needs to get off the high horse and humble herself. Ghana, Niger are far better than Nigeria interms of standard of leaving with low population and without oil.

the american budget for defence alone is far out gun the Nigeria entire budget.

Hmmm funkymallam, I see your comparison but these are things you need to consider

1. The average senator in Nigeria is collecting more money than Obama.

2. Mrs Obama is technically much more busy. Not to down grade Nigeria or anything but her presence in another country is more important and GEJ in that same country.

3. Also she is a role model not only to women in America but all over the world because America is one of the most diverse country in the world, America is a world power both economically and militarily.  

4. We need to be critical here, the money her country has is much more than Nigeria thus there is no bases of comparison.

5. The money spent in the USA government is well managed unlike the current admistration that spends money on 13 million dollar just on Gold. The period Clinton bought 4 tommy hilfiger suits, he was queried, can we as Nigerian even ask why GEJ has not told us why the money of the subsidy jumped up and why he removed it when we still are on 2011 budget without people criticizing us. Lets be honest with ourselves things are more transparent there than here and that is why even their senator can take 50 aids and there should be no problem because the life there is far better than the life in Nigeria when the minimum wage is 18,000 naira while in america is 185,000 naira.

There is no bases of comparison

Olodostein:
But you spelt my moniker wrong . No let me face you oooo

Anyways, that was touching al harem. I feel you bro.

I will try not to let him drag me his route. I am just trying to set him straight that justify killing of the innocents is not the way to go.

We must defeat Boko Haram and we shall. I hate to see my Kano go to these guys even when i finally relocate

Ndo nwannem, I would spell it correctly next time

Nice one, Lets not fall for bigotry traps. Daalu nu ikengi Olodostein

This Sam_Ikenna seems to be a very different breed of Igbo I am yet to meet on Nairaland.

*I am coming back to read more of his reply*

Rhino5dm and Olodostain

Take it easy. At the end of the day Boko haram does not care if you are igbo or hausa.

This is the time we need to unite for a common enemy who happens to be a terrorist.

Lets not allow bigotry to becloud our reasoning

Nice one. I hope he wins.

ADDIS ABABA(AFP) – President Goodluck Jonathan may enter the race for chairman of the African Union, after Gambia pulled out of the running this week, a source close to Jonathan said Saturday.

Leaders will choose a new chairman for the 54-member pan-African body in a secret ballot at the African Union summit opening Sunday.

The leaders of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) are campaigning for Jonathan to run for the position, which has been occupied by the President of Equatorial Guinea, Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, since 2008.

“Quite a number of African leaders have been approaching him and encouraging him to be the candidate for the next chairman of the African Union,” said the source, who spoke of the condition of anonymity.

“If it is the consensus of (ECOWAS) that he should run for the chairmanship of the African Union, I doubt if he will be able to tell his colleagues that he will not listen to them,” he added.

Diplomatic sources had earlier said Gambian President Yahya Jammeh or Benin’s leader Boni Yayi were likely rivals for the post, which changes every four years and is offered to different regions in Africa on a rotational basis.

However, the source confirmed that Gambia was no longer vying for the spot, which is largely ceremonial, adding that Benin may not run either, leaving Nigeria as the sole candidate for chairman of the union.

ECOWAS leaders are meeting on the margins of the AU summit in Addis Ababa Saturday to decide whether they will formally recommend Jonathan for the spot.

The next chairman will come from the west African region to replace Obiang, whose election was condemned by rights group over his poor rights record at home.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/jonathan-may-run-for-au-chairperson/

PointB:
So why would a Northern muslim sect choose blood letting, and mass murder in this so called power struggle? Can they wait for 2015 poll?

How am I to know ?

as far as I am concerned Boko haram is not exclusively northerners. It is also on NL we knew that southerners are part of boko haram so I don't understand your point

ak47mann:
GBOSAAAAH GBOSAAAAH I sip a shot of snap for you brother

abeg give it a rest. if said you would stop tribalism only for u to go back to it. who is fooling who

You and Nchara have no monopoly in propaganda. Just to let you know.

If you respect others, others would respect you. It is not a one way thing

[quote author=Sam_Ikenna link=topic=855685.msg10064608#msg10064608 date=1327708074]alj harem, of all the threads on NL this is where you've found happiness? Wow! Its a shame you have avoided other threads that are talking about how your people are butchering other people, I guess you've finally become tired of defending the indefensible and now your thanking your stars for providing you with an OJUKWU thread so you can show us a litany of how Igbos hate Yorubas.

I see you're smart, but like every game in life there comes a time when its up. Your game is up buddy. Telling us how Igbo hates yoruba will not change whats on ground. It wont stop Boko Haram from staging yet another cataclysmic and bloody SinParty. I suggest you evacuate your family from the north 'cause you know when Boko hits your Kanuri town all this your Igbo vs Yoruba conspiracy wont save you.

You've fought so hard in turning all other ethnic groups against Igbo just like your people did during the civil war yet you are so blind to see that the emerging concensus in Nigeria today is centering around what Ojukwu fought for. I know deep down you're not a very bad person rather you want a Nigeria where the status quo perpetually favors the core north. What better way to do it than to continue the usual divide and conquer. My brother your gameplan is 50 yrs old and believe me we've seen the idiocy therein.

you can continue talking about Ojukwu while your people are turning soda cans to mini bombs. I wish you notice the political and cultural tectonic plates of core north and the rest of Nigeria are gradually drifting apart by the day. Wake up now while you can brother, don't let the inevitable take you by surprise because if you keep avoiding the real enemy of your people which are poverty, extremism, illiteracy, and terrorism for a phantom enemy aka "Igbo and Ojukwu" then you would have signed up for a future in an implosive north with Boko leader as your Supreme Ayatollah.[/quote]1. I am not turning all ethnic groups against Igbos rather it is igbos on NL that are doing that and I have tried to be diplomatic enough. BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF

2. The boko haram plight is not new to me and I have commented where it fits. I would not comment on a topic I have no knowledge about.

3. I do not want the core north to be in any unfair advantage

4. I would love to see a country where Igbos, Hausa and Yorubas can be equal and see each other as one.

5. Tell Ak47mann, Nchara and co to stop spreading hate messages against others on this forum. IT IS ANNOYING

As I said before, we need to respect each other but it can only occur if we have mutual understanding. I am yet to see an igbo Nler condemn Nchara for once. It sends a message to me that they support his hate messages and I do not like that.

Respect is reciprocal.

simple answer, IMO the government is deceiving the people

the numbers are not consistent at all and very by a margin of about 70 %

What appropriation is that

Sky Rider:
When two very wild animals fight,
, the Masses are worse of.

Govt vs Labour====Masses are BRUTALIZED
Govt vs Bok Ham+++Masses are BOMBED
Govt vs Niger Militants>>>Masses are KIDNAPPED
Govt vs ASUU********Masses pikins are made IGNORAMUS
Govt vs Cabal$$$$$$$$ Masses get SUBSIDY REMOVED

Gbammm

that is the Nigerian game for you. the people are been used a pawns in a cheese game in the struggle for power.

[quote author=re@lchange link=topic=855685.msg10064543#msg10064543 date=1327706785]i'm loving how igbos here acquire more and more silence in dealing with the alj-harems of nairaland
soon those fools will notice too[/quote]trust me that is the solution

if you can't win by stating facts something [size=14pt]DON'T START IT[/size]

if you want to go tribal, well History is there for us to see.

nedu210:
@alj haram, am enjoying ur stu-pi-dity bro carry on, i just tried 2 picture the kind of person displaying dis high class stu-pi-dity, the only thing i can see is an 18 years old child dat just came out of secondary skul and lack knowledge of history. Still go on with ur stu-pi-diy am enjoyin it.

LOL, I am glad u are enjoying it

I know you people hate hearing the truth but your religion preaches that "the truth shall set you free" isn't it ?

yeah I am 18 and how does that change the fact stated ?

even if you are 80 years old, it still does not change the facts so get over yourself

an 80 years old man engaging in tribalism speaks a lot about ur person and ur ethnic group.

Grow up and smell the coffee ok

[quote author=9ja_I_hail link=topic=855685.msg10063515#msg10063515 date=1327695201]you see how silly you are,you and your some yoruba's has been so much noise makers about awolowo been this and that ahead of zik but bro hear what a yoruban has to say.take your time and read,after reading you will realize that zik did not only brought independent to Nigeria but also to other africans.after reading this and you come up with some silly excuses and proves i will not respond to you.enjoy as you read.[/quote]I weep for you people

Let me make myself clear

1. I do not support Awolowo because he is yoruba or whatever. I support people/government that[b] DIRECTLY[/b] impact on the lifes of the people. Examples of such leaders are Awolowo, Fashola, Bello, Okpara, Rochas. I support people that have direct impact on the lifes of her people she rules.

2. Zik of Onitsha is very much part of Nigeria's problem which is
           a) He was a slave of the colonial power
           b) He created the genesis of the friction between yoruba and igbo
           c) His death would have prevented 3 million or so igbos from dying

3. I am not faulting Ojukwu but he made some mistakes which is normal would be forgotten until likes of ak47mann and co keep comparing him with hausawa and yoruba leaders. I see NO COMPARISON.

3. Here is were I leave not to add fuel to the fire. Let me respect Ndigbo and Ojukwu

paragonpro:
The attitudes of some ibo people is very similar to Boko haram, attack anybody that disagrees with your fundamentalist agenda even against common sense.

You have fundamentalist ibos calling moderate ibos all sorts of names. It is only a matter of time before they start violent attacks on others whole holds different succession beliefs and other moderate ibos.

+10

waadooo

cantell:
Oh! I'm shaking! You're a big foool.
Why this silly obsession about Igbos? Why can't you give it a rest for once?
Ojukwu did this, Zik did that. Have you or any member of your family got to the height where
this men attained in their lifetime?
You know the history of Igbos like the back of your hand. What kind of obsession is that?
In one thread a guy was complaining about what Igbos did to his nephew(don't know if it's true) and somehow, i understand his pain. Not that i support his bashing, but sometimes it's good to let people vent their anger.
But in your case, you just do it out of sheer hatred. Stop hating, you can never change anything.
If there's anyone who envies the Igbos most in Nl, you're the one.

Maybe it your brothers obession with anything awolowo, yoruba and hausa that made alj haram

tell them to stop and I would stop.

If I show some respect to Igbos on Nairaland then maybe they can show an equal respect to me back.

You cannot be insulting others and expect others to be quite. No sir it does not happen that way. This is not any Igbo forum but a Nigerian forum. If you want Igbos or you to be respected, then you show others respect.

Ok!!!!

and as for you america nigeria anology, It is a very good way to describe yorubas and igbos

americans don't run to nigeria but Nigerians do. that says a lot

maybe you think next time you post.

Yes I repeat it, Igbos on Nairaland and some of their politicans are envious of the yorubas.

dasparrow:
You really know Nigeria's history and I have learnt alot just reading your posts on this thread. Please keep educating us Alhaji because many of us when not born in the 50s and 60s. Thanks.

No problem bros. this people are clown the issue is that they know the truth but chose to deny it because of envy

cantell:
By their runny mouth you shall know them.
Your cohort, noisemaker alh-harem must have your bloodline flowing in his veins.
Stop hidin your identity.

if you noticed I did not quote the rubbish u wrote previously as I did not want to make things worse that it already is

If you want to involve me in this then this thread would go down a dark path.

Just saying, don't compare people that never achieved anything in Nigeria to those that did.

thanks

I am yet to see anyone IN AFRICA and indeed parts of asia and europe beat this record


Chief Obafemi Awolowo achieved a number of firsts as more evidence of his true leadership qualities as head of Government of Western region. This includes:

1.
Free Primary Education introduced
2.
The First free medical service to children below the age of 18 years
3.
The first stadium of international standard called Liberty Stadium
4.
The first Television Station network in Africa
5.
The first pilgrim Welfare Board
6.
The first modern housing Estate located in Bodija and Ikeja
7.
The first introduced minimum wage for workers which was also the highest

He was not even the president or prime minister but could achieve such heights

the president back then Nnamdi was so filled with envy, he lock awolowo up it for his case to be the issue of "the man who kept throwing stones at the market for he did not know when the stone would hit his family"

No be only Zik of africa, it is Zik of the world. Funny clowns

[quote author=High_Chief link=topic=855685.msg10061577#msg10061577 date=1327679295]Brother please do not Put Zik of Africa and Awo of Ibadan on the same sentence again. Zik was speaker of the House of Asembly, Governor general and President, While Awo was an ex-convict and a treacherous politician who ended up taking his own life, so please they are not on the same level. Zik is at the level of Mandela, Jomo Kenyatta, Juliuos Nyerere and other Pan-Afrinacists, he was never a regional politician[/quote]when I see people, like you I laugh at your stu.pidity and self apriasing

WHO COIN THE NAME ZIK OF AFRICA. AFRICA/NIGERIAS OR IGBOS LIKE YOURSELF

Zik was never and would never be in the same league as Awolowo not to talk of madella etc

you must be drunk

change name from zik of onisha to zik of africa. LOL how stu.pid keep delusing yourselves in ignorance

Please where is Zik in the 6 most power black african man from daily time 1959

[size=14pt]Foreign News: SIX LEADERS OF BLACK AFRICA
Monday, Feb. 16, 1959

Chief Obafemi Awolowo, 49, of the powerful Yoruba tribe, dedicated, teetotaling Prime Minister of the Western Region of Nigeria who began as a barrister, has gradually emerged as a statesman of integrity in a land where charges of corruption are the political order of the day. His fellow Prime Minister to the more populous but primitive north, the Sardauna of Sokoto, is a haughty Moslem nobleman out of another century. Nigeria's other regional Prime Minister, the demagogic, U.S.-educated Nnamdi ["Zik"] Azikiwe of the Ibo tribe to the east, lives under a cloud as a result of a financial scandal in his administration. So rent by divisions (250 tribes speaking 400 languages), Nigeria has a compromise federal Prime Minister, Abubakar Balewa, a northerner. "To many of us," says Awolowo, "Britain is our second home. We have thrown no stones, fired no shot, and we have not shed a drop of British blood. We are attaining independence by peaceful, orderly and democratic methods."
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,894174,00.html
[/size]

educate yourself more

kpogede77:
IBB has told us by his statement that the northerners can remove Jonathan by force and no body can divide Nigeria. I have no doubt that IBB has spoken the mind of the north in the proposed SNC. In an SNC, it is not compulsory that we must agree to stay together, if we cannot agree to stay together ,there is another option which is a UN supervised referendum. Will IBB sew uniform to challenge the outcome of the referendum? Thank God he said he carries bullet in is lap which means he is not immortal. There are people whose parents died in the war, he is carrying bullet and he is complaining, this time around let see if he will be smarter than we the younger people in the battle field. We have heard  this type of arrogant statement from Gaddaffi and Saddam who are stronger then IBB but where are they today? This is a challenge to all southerners. This  man is telling us that we must stay in Nigeria whether we like it or not and some people are praising him? For your information, Nigeria has expired and there is nothing IBB can do to compel us to stay in it.

No body is removing GEJ. I wonder who takes IBB, atiku, ciroma and co serious

We have likes of El-rufia, Sanusi, Ribadu etc that can make statements and could be taken serious

Sultan has even more power than Babangida

lucenzo:
I put Awo, Zik and Balewa on the same level. What Awo did is what Zik and Balewa would do. I am Igbo and i don't think that Awo betrayed  us. This three men would never support a divided Nigeria. Some people say that Zik betrayed his people which is not true. What Zik did is what Balewa and Awo would do. Forget about those noise Awo made. That is what they are, noise. The truth is that Awo being the nationalist he is, would never breakout.

I have no problem with Ojukwu par-say

I have a problem with ZIK, the man according to history forced the NORTH AND THE SOUTH INTO NIGERIA. after the forceful marriage because he held the power back then, the south was then divided into west and east

You have to understand my anger here when people talk bad of awolowo when history says another.

ak47mann:
look man,all these talk is irrelevant if you want believe what you want to believe,but respect our ojukwu cus this thing will cus a big problem for your people,none of your leaders ever care for his people as ojukwu did for his own people,i have warned you again don't blame anybody if your people get diss and all that,your people started killing igbos and sending their body parts down to east by train have you lot forgetting that already?i warn you again stay away this fight is bigger than you.No body in Nigeria can take the heat better avoid it now,

I would give Ojukwu his DUE respect and also because Igbos respect him thus I have no reason to disrespect him. YOU ALSO SHOULD GIVE AWOLOWO HIS DUE RESPECT

RESPECT IS RECIPROCAL.

If you don't give the leader I admire respect how do you expect me to give the leader you respect respect ? How

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=855685.msg10061189#msg10061189 date=1327676711]Honestly I dont know why a nigerian sniper couldnt take down the guy when he was RUNNING AWAY.This is the same person some idiots are eulogising ? [/quote]can you imagine, some ideeiot comparing this man to awolowo

very annoying, When you ask them what he achieved nothing

lucenzo:
Igbos can never be envious of anyone or tribe. With these statements you are encouraging tribalism which has been killing Nigeria since it's inception. There things that Hausas invented, but does not necessarily transform to hatred.

If they are not, THEN THEY HAVE NO REASON OR WHAT SO EVER TO INSULT THE YORUBAS.  No reason

Hausa NEVER invented tribalism. Bello's statement was done based of regional government thus mini nations in a country.

There was nothing like tribalism because we had different style of government back then. It was called nationalism back them

Tribalism started at the coup. although Nzegowu had good intentions as a well meaningful Nigerian but ZIk and other soldiers had differnet interntions