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olas2u:
its egbo with a mark called ami on top of that e

wrong because it can also be spelt as igbo

they mean the same thing. egbo (weed) re mi

igbo (weed) re mi as well

igbo (ethnic group) re do

so it all depends on ur pronunciation

my brother agreed but there are some question we need to ask ourselves

1. licenses and co should not have been paid at the first place. was it not some few months if not years back that ghana said any nigerian investor would have to pay 300,000 dollars or so



https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-473078.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-681147.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-273755.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-511430.0.html


all the thread above show you how anti-nigerian they are, so why still stay there all in the name of investment

hackney:
Nomads.
The only state that is resourceful measured on any scale is Lagos.
the rest arent much to be honest.

nope, we have kano

Ngodigha:
What an idiotic reason above. To start mechanised agriculture is good but not enough. Ekiti state natives should relocate their industries from Lagos to Ekiti. They should be proud of their state and give up this idiotic idea of claiming Lagos.

why are they not lagosians, who are you to tell them to move else where

i am an awori lagosian and I feel ekiti people have every right to claim lagos as an illorin person. I see no problem in this

Aigbofa:
I am from Ekiti and I can tell you why Ekiti is not as productive as we used to be. Ekiti is an agrarian state and we used to have a lot of ibo farm labourers working on our farms while the children were away at school.
But things have changed, ibos are now going to school and we didn't anticipate what effect that would have on our farms.
The next stage is to take the initiative again and start mechanized farming and we will be just fine.

LOL leave igbos out of this. there turn would soon come and they know it that it would be terrible times on NL

just let them have this thread or this moments

kasiem:
This a wonderful move. With investments in the agric sector, our agric graduates can be properly employed and it will boost our grasp on raw. Hopefully, we'll get to the level of total freelance from the shackles of the honkies, considering the fact that we've gotten much scientific knowledge on to make good out of raw materials. By the time the whites will be living without adequate knowledge but dearth of raw materials, they'll come back to be colonized by the africans. The only inevitable thing is change.

that is not the reason it is a good move when there is still a major problem we have

i plan to read the Quran more and sleep better

So because Ekiti is named the 2nd poorest state that is why you IGBO are happy and laughing all about. LOL

it is funny because when the yorubas state, that Andre Uweh and ezeuche and co would say they are tribalistic

you people are just jokers

ezeagu:
Believe what you want.

it is nothing about what I believe. I just realised that it is not possible unless you give me other facts which i can research on

SouthEast:
^^^
Solve flooding in SW (Lagos, Ogun, Oyo)
Solve the fact that Lagos will soon be swallowed by the Atlantic Ocean
Solve desertification in the North
Solve erosion in SE and Edo and Cross Rivers.

No no no, it as nothing to do with the SW, North , SS or SE

this is a nigeria problem and it takes collective effort from all sides

1. flooding is being tackled in lagos as we speak
2. lagos would not be swallowed by the atlantic ocean because other major cities like new york and london would be swallowed first and more over, there is plan in place for that as there are building the a wall in lagos. don't forget. other nigerian states/cities such as river, balysea, bonny island delta and ondo would suffer the same faith.

3. plans are been put in place to stop the deserfication. even the locals are putting farm lands to reduce the effect.

4. erosion in the SE and other states will be solved by the FG but first this needs to be done before commercing into palm plantation which was the cause of the problem at the first place

No it is not a good move at all

was it not the other day we all we complaining about the erosion caused by the palm plantation which has lossen the soil for erosion to take place.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201007120666.html

yet we are about starting another plantation without solving the obvious problem first which is erosion

Donmeca:
Alhaji, do u mean what is wrong with the President dat may be in danger, d prophet dat "had a vision", d reporters he spoke to (who published it), d ADC that "may kill his boss", Boko haram that "infiltrated" Aso Rock or d poster who saw d report and wanted u to know of it?  

i mean what is wrong with this pastors,

Boko haram can be stopped if the president does the right thing but he choses to be quite about it. so anything that happens is his fault and no prophecy

ezeagu:
All of which can affect ethnic groups, Igbo people do not historically have the same diet or climate or altitude of an Ijaw person. What are these races, and what are the conditions that separate them into races?

in reality, the igbos and the ijaw have the same climate, diet and altitude as the ijaw

the climate is basically the same as the difference would not be significant enough to cause any change

the diet is as well the same unless you mean cooked differently. historically igbos and ijaws eat fishes, yam, vegetables

the climate is as well the same as the inland ijaws most have leaved in the rain forest and so are the southern yoruba and igbos.

2nd point

Conditions such as extreme claimate change . for example when you compare the weather of america to that of Nigeria. or when you compare a climate in the northern part of nigeria to that of the rainforest in the south

also diets.

the olden america or british. the food that they were likely to eat are like potatoes instead of the yam we are accustomed to in nigeria. olive oil unlike africans before where palm oil was the majority of the oil we get etc

and as you righly said altitude and other play major roles in this

but in terms of igbo,ijaw, southern yoruba, bini, they can all be said to occupy the same enivronment in terms of geographical space, altitude, the avilability of same food, climates

what is wrong with this people really

Odunnu:
Y'all should atleast know me to an extent by now. I said that because I sensed thats what the typical antiFashola guys would say when they come on board.

odunnu better, i thought otherwise as well

77ken:
Mitochondral DNA is mainly effective in identifying maternal lineage, those figures u reeled out may be accurate, but on the mother`s side, in Nigeria the father`s tribe is that of the child.

another good point

if you think of the type of food as well the yoruba food of yam, cassava, rice, palm oil, vegetables etc are very similar

yoruba and igbo eat the same type of food but cooked in very similar but different way and that is not enough for a visible genetic difference

also the genetic difference in hausa/fulani is simalar to yorubas (northern yorubas) as the topography and climae changes from the southern rain forest to the northern savanna

also the yorubas eat similar foods as the old hausa/fulani such as lafu, tuwo shikafa etc.  

now compare the igbos to hausa/fulani, the difference is clear as day because of the different topography, climates and type of foods

but the same can not be used to differentiate the ijaw from bini or igbo or southern youba

similarly in the north the hausa,fulani,northern yoruba nupe etc

ezeagu

You really need to understand this issue before you can start an argument.

You need to understand that different geographical spaces issues the isolation of genes popularily known as "gene pools". Now, this genes pools (as stated earlier) are influened by geophaical locations, topography, altitude, climate etc.

Now, I ask, most of the people you all Igbos are Igbos with refernence to who or what?? What defines Igbo? unless cultural affilation.

You will be shocked that your defination of Igbo is a man that has lived in a rain forest (the south has forests).  Therefore, there is no bases for you to say he is Igbo or not based on genes UNLESS you can compare his genes to the VERY first Igbo man but then again,

how will the first igbo man know he is Igbo.

Your research will open a genetic paradox which states that if I compare my genes to, lest say hausa, I will have X% of Huasa blood. Knowing full well that I have no Hausa blood in me but Kanuri. A Yoruba man will have an Ashante blood etc.


Hence, this genetic pool was created because of the topography and climate.

ezeagu:
That doesn't even make sense, how can DNA classification be based on "race" but cannot be based on ethnic groups?

refer to this post

alj harem:
Now ezeagu.

99% of all human being have the same DNA it is the 1% that distinguished us

The process begins with a sample of an individual's DNA (typically called a "reference sample". The most desirable method of collecting a reference sample is the use of a buccal swab, as this reduces the possibility of contamination. When this is not available (e.g. because a court order may be needed and not obtainable) other methods may need to be used to collect a sample of blood, saliva, Fluid, or other appropriate fluid or tissue from personal items (e.g. toothbrush, razor, etc.) or from stored samples (e.g. banked Fluid or biopsy tissue). Samples obtained from blood relatives (biological relative) can provide an indication of an individual's profile, as could human remains which had been previously profiled.
A reference sample is then analyzed to create the individual's DNA profile using one of a number of techniques, discussed below. The DNA profile is then compared against another sample to determine whether there is a genetic match.



As for your claim or the writer there is no refers to compare this 5 people as a pure blood is needed. In todays terms there are no pure igbo or yoruba blood and as sure there is no way they can give the percentage of this individual or the ethnic percentage (that is if there is anything like that at the first place).


Ethnic DNA

Now ethnic DNA is used in America to identify africa americans,Greek
Sikkim (India)
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR53usOghdnavinm1K_FKnS2jCIGmfYmp52f-P10Jeq0r29J_cJCA[/img]
Bhutia (India)
[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBw8tjnw-ZO35OPGQrOOdzmRDCgjXL-WU0_jqTpojXSz4RReqIHPnn7ylKvQ[/img]
Italian
Argentinian (Misiones)
Hungarian (E. Romani)
Hungarian (Ashkenazim)
Romanian (Szekler)
Romanian (Csango)
Tibet (Luoba)

but as you can this there is distinction in this groups and they can be classified into different races.

as you can see in the case of sikkim and bhutia. they look almost the same but distinct features can be seen and also can be found as a form of classification.

if you were comparing maybe the fulani to igbo or yoruba then it would have be visible as the way of life of the fulani is different from this 2 groups and as such there are distinct features that suit them.

even at that, it would still be hard for a scientist to separate the DNA of a fulani from an igbo person given the fact as there has been a lot of intermarriages and as such there is no pure blood for reference to.

I don't really know how to explain this further since i am no scientist as i am also a forumite as well.

Anyone this can explain further but this is to the best of my knowledge.

maybe unless you start going to bone structure, physical sturcture etc to be able to classify people but then again there is no reference for the classification.

I meant be wrong and i would be willing to learn more if anyone object to this.

ezeagu:
Secondly, how do you check race if finding a 'pure' reference is impossible?

race is further than ethnic group or tribe

there are distinct and more viable features in different races than in tribes

for example when comparing a white british with a black man

also this races can further be broken down to different stages.

like now, you can tell the differences between a white british and a white russain as ther have different geographical spaces which is far from each other unlike that of nigeria where comparing or distinguishing a yoruba from an igbo is not valuable as there is not enough comprehensive evidence to back it up since there geographical space are too close and the topograhy of each individual land does not favour any type of adaptation to suggest that there would be a different or significant change in there DNA.

another sun newspaper report SMH

well ekiti is not a valid state IMO ever since so there is no real surprise in this

but ekiti is still a state that was used for politics to give the SW there 6th state

[quote author=pholareen. link=topic=721357.msg8811946#msg8811946 date=1311913469]well, if he thinks he is right about the whole thing, ill like to have a report in a scientific format. report it on here or for security purposes to my email. by the way bro, you a molecular biologist?[/quote]thanks for the compliment. i am no molecular biologist 

Now ezeagu.

99% of all human being have the same DNA it is the 1% that distinguished us

The process begins with a sample of an individual's DNA (typically called a "reference sample". The most desirable method of collecting a reference sample is the use of a buccal swab, as this reduces the possibility of contamination. When this is not available (e.g. because a court order may be needed and not obtainable) other methods may need to be used to collect a sample of blood, saliva, semen, or other appropriate fluid or tissue from personal items (e.g. toothbrush, razor, etc.) or from stored samples (e.g. banked sperm or biopsy tissue). Samples obtained from blood relatives (biological relative) can provide an indication of an individual's profile, as could human remains which had been previously profiled.
A reference sample is then analyzed to create the individual's DNA profile using one of a number of techniques, discussed below. The DNA profile is then compared against another sample to determine whether there is a genetic match.



As for your claim or the writer there is no refers to compare this 5 people as a pure blood is needed. In todays terms there are no pure igbo or yoruba blood and as sure there is no way they can give the percentage of this individual or the ethnic percentage (that is if there is anything like that at the first place).


Ethnic DNA

Now ethnic DNA is used in America to identify africa americans,Greek
Sikkim (India)
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR53usOghdnavinm1K_FKnS2jCIGmfYmp52f-P10Jeq0r29J_cJCA[/img]
Bhutia (India)
[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBw8tjnw-ZO35OPGQrOOdzmRDCgjXL-WU0_jqTpojXSz4RReqIHPnn7ylKvQ[/img]
Italian
Argentinian (Misiones)
Hungarian (E. Romani)
Hungarian (Ashkenazim)
Romanian (Szekler)
Romanian (Csango)
Tibet (Luoba)

but as you can this there is distinction in this groups and they can be classified into different races.

as you can see in the case of sikkim and bhutia. they look almost the same but distinct features can be seen and also can be found as a form of classification.

if you were comparing maybe the fulani to igbo or yoruba then it would have be visible as the way of life of the fulani is different from this 2 groups and as such there are distinct features that suit them.

even at that, it would still be hard for a scientist to separate the DNA of a fulani from an igbo person given the fact as there has been a lot of intermarriages and as such there is no pure blood for reference to.

I don't really know how to explain this further since i am no scientist as i am also a forumite as well.

Anyone this can explain further but this is to the best of my knowledge.

maybe unless you start going to bone structure, physical sturcture etc to be able to classify people but then again there is no reference for the classification.

I meant be wrong and i would be willing to learn more if anyone object to this.

[quote author=pholareen. link=topic=721357.msg8811899#msg8811899 date=1311911050]I'm not disputing the fact that you carried out the DNA test. Even if it is from the mitochondria, i quite agree with you that the mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited. good to know this, how come did you have a database showing the ethnicity fingerprint? that's not enough, at what point in locus did you do this. I know of DNA testing in paternal dispute and crime scene/detection. I think your basis of testing is just crap. If you wanna prove this, just put up the details on here. I am not a regular nairaland checker but if you think your claim is as a result of your observation, forward the details to me on flobch@yahoo.com. No offense, no fighting but using sciences for wrong claim aint worth it. Get me the details, and if you are right, ill tell everybody on here. I am no novice. if you are right, who knows, it might take you places

Foalrin Olusegun

+2347038127311[/quote]well said, i wanted to bring this up but i decided to research better before I posted

1. this DNA classification of ethnic groups by testing has no bases

2. how can a DNA be matched to an ethnic group? TO WHAT REFERENCE is it to an average igbo man or what ans how are they sure that the REFERENCE is pure blood

people just post crap and are ignorant to things they post. They also hate to admit their ignorance.

DNA classification can be done based on race, paternal and species there is NO WAY A DNA can be classified based on an ethnic group as there is no refers to compare it to.

kasiem:
Aboki wan solve maths? U nor see education section?

the education is full of crap. there should be a section for science and maths

calling me aboki will not do anything as majority of you igbo folks are olodos. fact

and if u believe that u are smarter than an aboki, I challenge you to any debate on maths, anything science

OAM4J:
There is no missing N1.

When you returned N1 to you Mum and Dad, your debt portfolio reduced from N100 to N98, out of that you spent N97 on the shirt and you have N1 with you. i.e N100 debt seized to exist after you refunded N2.



Thanks for the puzzle, moving to Nairaland Section.

prof

redsun:
sorry i got t wrong.Having given them 1 naira back each,u are still indebted in amount of 99 naira,with just a naira left 4 u

how if u give them 1 N each back you would be owing them 49N each

and by such is 98N and of course you still have 1N so= 99N

so where is the 1N

Mods when are you going to give us a maths and science section

redsun:
indebted in the amount of 2 naira

Vigilante:
There is no missing one naira. its the shirt that equates to a missing one naira. return the shirt and everything will add up.

blacksta:
firstly u dont have but owe 98 naira,

don't understand

if 100-97 = 3

and 3-2 = 1 (2 naira given to both parent as 1 N each)

then 49+ 49 = 98

so please explain more how is the 1N in the purchase of the shirt

good very good

why are tankers allowed to move anyhow in Nigeria

should fuel not be transported throught underground piles which is away from the reach of a common man and also from the heat of the sun

na wa for niaja

houvest:
This is commendable as many lives are lost in nigeria because of lack of such trainings.[b] aI hope other governors emulate this for the good of the whole nation where many people are already half dead. I also hope it will be a continuing exercise with refresher courses and will eventually extend to non-medical personnel. Th[/b]is could save the life of the next man anytime.

no point because other governor have been doing it even before OBJ left the office