₦airaland Forum

ChinenyeN:
Some are here trying to argue how they think it should be, when the reality of the situation is that this indigene vs settler thing is a very real phenomenon, and one that will not be dissipating anytime soon, no matter the 'constitution' in Nigeria. We all know this. So, just be realistic about all this, a[b]nd stop trying to sound "progressive". It's irritating[/b].

gbamm thank you brother

you are the best

9ja voice:
As for Mallam ALJ harem, lets all try as much as we can to avoid this man, he is been paid to stay here online and make sure their is no unity between igbos and yoruba's.  

He  has many user name to insult yoruba's and user names to insult igbo's.  He always come along whenever there is tribal discussion to see if southeren unity is at sight or not .  

He is been paid by one alhaji in their home town of Borno state because he schooled in eastern nigeria and work in yoruba land so he can understand the two languages, pls watch out for this man everywhere online.    

He claim to be half igbo but watch out any igbo discussion he must be against igbo's. The point is that he is not smart because of the hausa man in him,otherwise he could have know better when to counter and when to support.   Alj Harem we know you very well just take off the mask.  So many hausa/fulani's is here doing the same job we know but one thing is certain "hausa/fulani's time in nigeria dominance is over" i think its yoruba"s time to dominate

idey laffffff oooo

i think you a phyco

Tsiya:
Wat are u saying? The hausa are governing the Beroms?

The Plateau doesn't belong to the Beroms alone. It belongs to everybody!!!

And I think now doesn't mater!! It is what the Plateau state leadership thinks matter.

hmmmmmm

okayoooooo

Tsiya:
Im from the north. I was born and grew up in the North. I studied in the North and I live in the North. I speak the language.

What do you know about the north?

sorry for approaching like that, so u my fellow northern brother

now i know what the beroms are fighting for

they are fighting to govern themselves

it might seem like it is indigene settlers thing but the beroms just fell treaten

it is just like have hausa governor in borno, that is not fair

what do you think

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599323.msg7670860#msg7670860 date=1296899519]Oyo Empire never extended into Ghana. Ghana was the domain of the Ashanti Empire. The Ashanti Confederacy includes parts of Togo & Cote D'ivoire. Oyo Empire clashed with the Ashanti empire in Togo, not Ghana. Most Ghanains never even  heard of Oyo.

So stop peddling falsehoods. I lived in Ghana for a few years and studied their history. The Ewe region of Ghana and Togo was a tributary state of the Ashantis. Oyo Empire clashed with the Ashanti over areas within modern day Togo. Not Ghana.[/quote]The Ewe people inhabit the territory equivalent roughly to the south-eastern quarter of Ghana and the southern half of TOGO. The EWE country is bounded by the rivers MONO and VOLTA and extends from the Atlantic coast inland up to about latitude 7. 6’N. in the east and latitude 7. 20’N. in the west. Across the south eastern boundary line a related people – the FON of BENIN (formerly DAHOMEY).The EWE people have not always lived in their present home. Their traditions recall a migration from the east – more precisely KETU a YORUBA town in modern BENIN. KETU is also called AMEDZOFE or MAWUFE in the accounts. KETU was founded by the YORUBA people by the fourteenth century at the latest. In it lived besides the forebears of the EWE, the YORUBA and the ancestors of the AJA, FON, and GA-DANGME. It was the expansion of the YORUBA people that pushed the EWE and related peoples westward.

The migrants went to live at TADO in present-day TOGO from where they later dispersed in various directions. Some returned east to settle at ALLADA from where they founded the AJA kingdom of ALLADA, WHYDAH, POPO and JAKIN, and later the FON kingdom of DAHOMEY in the early eighteenth century. The ancestors of the EWE went to live at NOTSIE, which was walled round. Here, the entire community known as DOGBOAWO lived together, each unit in its individual ward under its own head. All of them were ruled by the king of NOTSIE. The early kings ruled well and the kingdom expanded. Trouble began when AGOKOLI ascended the throne. It is not clear whether he was the third or fifth king. Because of his harsh and tyrannical, rule the people decided to escape. During the flight from NOTSIE the fugitives divided into three major groups. Broadly speaking, one group went to settle in the northern part of the new home. It founded the towns of HOHOE, MATSE, PEKI, KPANDO, AWUDOME, ALAVANYO, KPALIME, AGU, VE, KPEDZE and WODZE.The second group founded the settlements of HO, AKOVIE, TAKLA, KPENOE, HODZO, KLEVI, SOKODE, ABUTIA and ADAKLU. And the third group took the southern route and went to settle in the coastal region of the new homeland. It founded TSEVIE, BE – which later gave birth to AGOENYIVE, BAGIDA and LOME - TOGO, ABOBO, WHETA, ANLO, KLIKOR, AVE, FENYI, AFIFE, TSIAME, GAME, TAVIA, TANYIGBE, etc. Later other peoples from the west, ACCRA, ELMINA, LEKPOGUNO and DENKYERA came to settle near and amidst them. The GA (from Accra) settled around GLIDZI, the ANE or MINA from ELMINA settled at ANEXO, the DANGME from LADOKU settled at ADANGBE, AGOTIME, while the DENKYERA settled among the TONGU, along the river VOLTA. The traditions do not provide any absolute chronology of the episodes and incidents recounted. However, in the early twentieth century when the accounts were first recorded, tradition then put the arrival of the Ewe in their new home at ten or more generations back. Furthermore, the Ewe tradition concerning their accession to their new home is corroborated by evidence in the form of traditions of other people like the AJA, and FON and identifiable sites, recorded history and archaeological reconstruction.
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http://www.torgbuijames-ocloo.org/The%20Ewe%20People%20I.htm

Tsiya:
The issue of settler and indigene is a constitutional crises that need to be addressed. It limits internal migration within the Nigerian state which has been happening for centuries until recently.


The case of Jos is a complex issue. 70 - 80 years ago. Jos was mining village; and as a result of the economic activities going on their, the village grew organically. This is the reason why there is large population of Hausa in Jos.

Personally, in the context of human kind, everybody is a settler. The first settler should welcome the second settler and give him equal opportunity to contribute and defend the land and the society.

This how they do it in more advance societies and prior to colonization of Nigeria. Today we can find Nigerians as far away as Poland living as citizens and having the right to contest and win election.

In the Nigerian context, it is more of a political tool than genuine nationalism.

Tsiya:
Why should hausa/fulani invades Jos? The crises in Jos is not about Hausa/Fulani invading Jos, it is between the Hausa/Fulani settled in Jos for decades and who contributed to the economic development of the State with the Natives of the areas. Why won't 3rd generation igbos fight along Lagosians if they are considered Lagosians and given equal right and opportunity to contribute to both the development and defence of the city. When people are living among you and you still consider them migrants after 2nd, 3rd, generation, they will begin to think that and will not owe allegiance to the state. The first constituency of every man is where his source of survival lies, and in most cases is where his business and food comes from.

Genuine nationalism is understanding what is good for the state, contributing to the state and protecting the interest of the state. It is a known fact that no society.culture can survive in isolation. There must be interraction with other people. But you have to give these people rights and sense of belonging. What is happening in Jos is harassment of other ethnic groups for political and economic gains.

sorry but your post is very irritating

and you make no sense here, have you been to jos ?

have you been to the north, i mean core north ?

please do not displace your ignorance here, ok

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=599235.msg7671736#msg7671736 date=1296911017]@Beaf, hahahahahahahaha!! Do you think this is a game of dodge ball, Mallama Maradonna?  Answer the simple question you were asked jor. You wrote : GEJ is immensely popular among Nigerians, because he has touched lives in fundamental ways.  When asked to be specific you started dodging - typical of olodos. I laugh in Ijaw[/quote]lol, that's the way he does like a worm

ijaw area boy

violent:
Crap!!!!!!

Navigating plane kor, driving ship ni!

If our banks are operating on high leverage and low liquidity ratios, WE DESERVE TO KNOW!

If our banks are being managed by people who issue reckless loans without conducting due process, WE DESERVE TO KNOW!

There is no point offering Soludo praises when he has been weighed, measured and found wanting! We all know he's brilliant but he has demonstrated that he can't be trusted!

In a sane environment, Soludo wouldn't even attempt to make a grasp at a public position ever again!

thank you

gbammmmm

Allah be with you

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=599207.msg7669251#msg7669251 date=1296859826]^^^^
odinma.[/quote]thanks

No he is not the best Nigerians can do but what can we do when there are people like Edwin Clark, people in PDP, OBJ etc

eejo:
boko haram to the north, massob to the east, mend and militants to the south, opc to the west, nigeria is ready for a civil war which will last for a long time the politicians better act now or loose this great country call nigeria and the labour of our fathers will be in vain

wrong, the boko harem stops in my state borno; it has not spread to other parts of the north

opc is used to protect the interest of there people

massop is a non violent group

^^^^^^^^^^^

u have started agin with ur madness

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=599207.msg7668709#msg7668709 date=1296852678]Alhaji, kedu? [/quote]odunma

kedu

Andre Uweh:
Thanks my good friend. Remember, I sounded this warning to them.
Anyway, am happy Ohanaeze is getting it right this time.

no pros brother

Kobojunkie:
To Add, I signed up to use the forum, not do your job for you @Mukina2. It is not my job to report the unruly behavior of others. I would think it is part of your duty there as @Moderator. That you get occasional help from me does not mean I am suddenly your assistant in that. I signed up about 3 years ago, and even though the claimed rules you are trying to push now existed even then, it had not stopped things from deteriorating over all that time.

I appreciate that you have maybe woken up to the fact that you need to be stricter on enforcing these rules, but I would appreciate it even more if you would go after the real problems and not, again, try to tell me I have no right to [b]defend [/b]myself when you IGNORE YOUR OWN DUTIES.

stop bothering mukina2 ok

Beaf:
I support him, cos you are a dunce.

haba mumu, answer his question

and the drama contiunes

Andre Uweh:
Those who traduced Ohanaeze for selfish reasons should by now be licking their wounds. On our part, we knew all along that Ohanaeze’s position was unimpeachable

hmmmmmmm

you are right

Abuja-The CBN governor, Mr Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, on Thursday in Abuja said that that Islamic banking would soon begin in Nigeria.
Sanusi said this at an award dinner to mark the 20th anniversary of the Abuja Muslim Forum.
He noted that the non-interest banking system will help improve and develop the nation’s economy .
According to him, other countries such as the United Kingdom and South Africa are already successfully operating the system.
He called on Nigerians to help make the project a success.
The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) reports that Sanusi was one of the recipients of the Forum’s award.
Earlier, the Amir, Abuja Muslim Forum, Mr Musa Aliyu, said the award was meant to recognise and celebrate Muslims who have contributed to the development of Islam and the nation.
Other recipients of the award include the Minister for Education, Prof. Ruqayyatu Rufa’I and some Islamic scholars and public servants.
The event was attended by Islamic scholars, public servants, students, NGOs and religious organisations
The forum was established in 1991 with the aim of enhancing unity, education and promotion of the welfare of Muslims. (NAN)

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/02/nigeria-to-commence-islamic-banking-soon-sanusi/

[quote author=Ma_J_Blige link=topic=599130.msg7668027#msg7668027 date=1296844265]LOL.

How old are yah?[/quote]LOL

you fathers age

good anambra is getting better oo

afam4ever

GEJ already had his chance to prove to us but he has fail woefully

since Yaradua die, he is been the president , what has he done.

he even has the guts to appoint personal adviser to diaspora affairs like we all in Nigeria are stu.pid

what is minister of foreign affairs for ?

what are the ambassadors to various countries there for ?

secondly, he has promise that he will give us constant electricity just like his predecessors (OBJ and Yaradua) yet the power supply is even getting worse

he even appointed alams( former governor of balysea) a man the dressed like a woman after he was arrested abroad

facebook crap, if the president wants to tell his people something, he can call a press conference and inform his people instead of going to facebook like a coward.

and it goes on and on and on

Nsiman:
Even the common man will feel this. Thank u gej

you have to be joking, this is a bloody lie

Eko Ile:
Gullible Nigerians,

gbamm

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=598674.msg7666608#msg7666608 date=1296829136]What is so difficult to understand here?

If your ancestors lived in a land (say) 100 or 200 years ago, then they are indigenous to that land, and so are you.

Otherwise, you are not.

Isn't anything complicated.[/quote]thank you

let me just add, you are also an indigene if you understand the culture, language and the way of the life of the people. you can not be an american citizen without knowing those thing neither can you become an indigene without having those things

T9ksy:
Your cousin is a settler in Lagos just as the efik man is also a settler in your village.

If, in the future, there's a disagreement between Lagos and your cousin's village, am sure your cousin will not side with Lagos to kill and maim his relatives in your village. will he, now? Despite the fact that your cousin speak the indigenous lang., dressed like them and have adopted some of their mannerism & culture.


@ poster,

regardless of how long you igbos reside in Lagos and how much property and businesses you own in the state, you will foreever remain settlers in Lagos.

you could not have said it better brother