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fratermathy:
Nothing is misleading about the title. That it was deliberately used to incure sensation doesn't mean it isn't true. IPOB DID PLEA THAT URHOBOS/ISOKOS OBSERVE THEIR SIT-AT-HOME!


Our herdsmen crisis has NOTHING to do with liberation. It is a criminal affair and will be treated as such. We are not slaves. If you are a slave, no problem but don't force that status on others.

Whoever has no control over his affairs and what surrounds him is like a slave

Igbo, the largest or second largest ethnic group in Nigeria cannot by any imagination of a sane mind be like enslaved in Nigeria or be associated with slavery.


If you want to debate about the thread you posted, come on. But if you go on tribal slurs like an unprepared person, you are an agent of continuation of the political status quo in Nigeria.

Your herdsmen crisis? When are you going to treat it?

Your crisis by Boko Haram induced by adoption of Sharia criminal codes in the north - when shall you treat it?

fratermathy:
Exactly... So IPOB should leave Urhobo/Isoko and Itsekiri to fashion their future for themselves. No one appointed IPOB as their mouthpiece.

Are you not blighted by hate, therefore, impervious to truth?
.What on earth do you think the Igbo shall exploit Urhobo, Itshekiri, Isoko for, if not that your so-hated IPOB understood that:
1; Achieving Igbo-only Biafra may have more obstacles if the non-Igbos in the SS are excluded.

2;, If Igbo-only Biafra is achieved, before long, you and other non-Igbos in the SS in Nigeria shall flood the same Biafra as refugees seeking asylum in Biafra, as you run away from Nigeria due to persecution of all sorts, including from Jihadists?

fratermathy:
Nothing is wrong with the title. Titles are meant to draw attention to a thread. It is better for me if a lot of persons view this thread. If using titles that draw attention cuts it, then I'm game.

Secondly, the title is not wrong. Afterall, IPOB did plead that Urhobos should observe the May 30th sit-at-home as the quoted post indicated. As I remember, it was IPOB that championed this sit-at-home. Anyone asking another group to observe it is invariably echoing IPOB's decision.

It is better to always look beyond the nose to see the after-effects of any action one takes, for example, by posting this thread with a misleading title and very parochial contents.

Day in, Day out, cries come out from Delta state about herdsmen's exploits.


The exploits of Nigeria in Odi and Gbaramaturu, the various murderous military operations in the SS just for the sake of exploiting the SS.

Then comes opportunity that must bring these sad occurrences in the SS to a stop through first liberating your area via Biafra. But because perhaps you dislike Igbo people, you struggle to throw sway the chance.


Are you not like a man in a shit hole but refusing the helping hand trying to bring him out, just because he does not like the man?

fratermathy:
I came across this laughable plea from IPOB online and as an Urhobo, I found it laughable and delusional. I'll express my sentiments under the post.




My issues with this delusional plea include:

1. The writer couldn't even spell Urhobo well. What he spelt was Uhrobo, not Urhobo. I have met several Igbos lash on others who dared to omit the "g" in Igbo and spelt as Ibo. The fact that someone or a group that supposedly means us well do not even know how to spell the name of our ethnicity is definitely laughable.

2. Urhobos/Isokos HAVE NEVER been a part of Biafra at any point. In 1967, Urhobo/Isokoland was in Nigeria's Mid-West State (previously in the Western Region) and anyone who knows the history of the war well enough knows that the Mid-West was never part of Ojukwu's short-lived Biafra. In fact, the Biafran troops massacred a lot of Mid-Westerners, including Urhobo/Isokos, when they invaded Benin (only Igbos were spared).

3. In the current resurgence for Biafra, Urhobo/Isokos have always maintained their stand. Our apex socio-cultural unions, UPU and IDU, have stated emphatically that we do not want Biafra. We are not Biafrans. We do not want to be Biafrans! This cannot be overemphasised. Apart from our apex groups, many of us have rejected the Biafran cause in the numerous Urhobo-Isoko groups on the social media.

4. Urhobo/Isokos have never been sympathetic to the Igbo cause in any way. In fact, quite the opposite, we have maintained our independence and tilted more towards the West. The average Urhobo man is more at home with a Yoruba than with an Igbo. This doesn't mean we hate Igbos but we simply have more sympathy with our Edoid/Yoruboid kins. This explains the presence of many itinerant and settler Urhobos in Yorubaland, as opposed to Igboland where Urhobo/Isokos hardly venture to. How then can we share a country with people we have no historical, political or cultural ties with? Any Urhobo/Isoko that may be sympathetic to the Biafran cause does so at the personal level and represents his own interest. The voice of Urhobo/Isoko collective interest has been made known already.

5. Urhobos WILL NOT sit at home and do nothing because IPOB asked us to or because Igbos are doing so. It will NEVER happen, today or anytime soon. Such a plea is useless and antithetical to the Biafran cause. Biafrans should aim for an Igboid country and leave Edoid/Yoruboid groups out of it. Urhobo/Isoko is Edoid. Itsekiri is Yoruboid. Even the Western Ijaws which have always been with us tilt more towards the West than anywhere else. How can you want so many dissimilar groups in your "utopia"? Won't it amount to creating another Nigeria when you "drag" uninterested groups to your cause?

I need not tell the writer, IPOB and any Igbo who cares to hear what the answer to this plea would be. The response is not farfetched. Ihwo r'Urhobo guoni Biafra a! Urhobo people are not Biafrans! We may be fed up with Nigeria but we can never leave the devil for the deep blue sea. Igbo is a majority ethnic group in Nigeria and as such contributes to the plights faced by minorities such as Urhobo/Isoko. The Igbo should not absolve itself from the "parasite" status! As far as minorities are concerned, all majority ethnic groups are a threat. Some are much more than some. In this case, Igbos have never done anything for Urhobo/Isokos to trust its motives. IPOB should stop adding us to its agenda or else it'll attract more insults to itself and the Igbo ethnicity. A word is enough for the wise!


Ihwo r'Urhobo v'Isoko, ke mavor owa mlo ota na vwa? Oshe phiyor? Biko vwa me ji tota kparemu me tare na!

Any sane fellow understands that liberation of Biafra from Nigeria is like breaking the chains holding black African nations forced together by foreigners into one in the most unstable countries of the world.


These forced African countries have been stunted, blighted, seen no peace, little growth, with millions of citizens lost in conflicts.

Isoko or Urhobo or Itshekiri, stop looking at the blackmail by those blokes from the SW and north clutching tightly to a sinking One Nigeria ship, just because the ship contains crude oil.


Asian nations similarly forced into one country quickly took note of the differences between them and separated shortly after independence.


There are many countries in the world less populated than Isoko or Urhobo and Itshekiri.


What counts is how happy one is with one's country, not how big or populated or rich one's country is.

fratermathy:
I came across this laughable plea from IPOB online and as an Urhobo, I found it laughable and delusional. I'll express my sentiments under the post.




My issues with this delusional plea include:

1. The writer couldn't even spell Urhobo well. What he spelt was Uhrobo, not Urhobo. I have met several Igbos lash on others who dared to omit the "g" in Igbo and spelt as Ibo. The fact that someone or a group that supposedly means us well do not even know how to spell the name of our ethnicity is definitely laughable.

2. Urhobos/Isokos HAVE NEVER been a part of Biafra at any point. In 1967, Urhobo/Isokoland was in Nigeria's Mid-West State (previously in the Western Region) and anyone who knows the history of the war well enough knows that the Mid-West was never part of Ojukwu's short-lived Biafra. In fact, the Biafran troops massacred a lot of Mid-Westerners, including Urhobo/Isokos, when they invaded Benin (only Igbos were spared).

3. In the current resurgence for Biafra, Urhobo/Isokos have always maintained their stand. Our apex socio-cultural unions, UPU and IDU, have stated emphatically that we do not want Biafra. We are not Biafrans. We do not want to be Biafrans! This cannot be overemphasised. Apart from our apex groups, many of us have rejected the Biafran cause in the numerous Urhobo-Isoko groups on the social media.

4. Urhobo/Isokos have never been sympathetic to the Igbo cause in any way. In fact, quite the opposite, we have maintained our independence and tilted more towards the West. The average Urhobo man is more at home with a Yoruba than with an Igbo. This doesn't mean we hate Igbos but we simply have more sympathy with our Edoid/Yoruboid kins. This explains the presence of many itinerant and settler Urhobos in Yorubaland, as opposed to Igboland where Urhobo/Isokos hardly venture to. How then can we share a country with people we have no historical, political or cultural ties with? Any Urhobo/Isoko that may be sympathetic to the Biafran cause does so at the personal level and represents his own interest. The voice of Urhobo/Isoko collective interest has been made known already.

5. Urhobos WILL NOT sit at home and do nothing because IPOB asked us to or because Igbos are doing so. It will NEVER happen, today or anytime soon. Such a plea is useless and antithetical to the Biafran cause. Biafrans should aim for an Igboid country and leave Edoid/Yoruboid groups out of it. Urhobo/Isoko is Edoid. Itsekiri is Yoruboid. Even the Western Ijaws which have always been with us tilt more towards the West than anywhere else. How can you want so many dissimilar groups in your "utopia"? Won't it amount to creating another Nigeria when you "drag" uninterested groups to your cause?

I need not tell the writer, IPOB and any Igbo who cares to hear what the answer to this plea would be. The response is not farfetched. Ihwo r'Urhobo guoni Biafra a! Urhobo people are not Biafrans! We may be fed up with Nigeria but we can never leave the devil for the deep blue sea. Igbo is a majority ethnic group in Nigeria and as such contributes to the plights faced by minorities such as Urhobo/Isoko. The Igbo should not absolve itself from the "parasite" status! As far as minorities are concerned, all majority ethnic groups are a threat. Some are much more than some. In this case, Igbos have never done anything for Urhobo/Isokos to trust its motives. IPOB should stop adding us to its agenda or else it'll attract more insults to itself and the Igbo ethnicity. A word is enough for the wise!


Ihwo r'Urhobo v'Isoko, ke mavor owa mlo ota na vwa? Oshe phiyor? Biko vwa me ji tota kparemu me tare na!

Chai, who is begging you for Jees sake?


When Biafra leaves, you submit to the Sharia Republic of Nigeria to be controlled by Mullahs from the SW and North of Nigeria.


LMAORTF.

Igboesika:
As for the sun, it shall definitely rise again.

All stupid unity beggars should go and commit suicide and join their master in hell.

Shameless idiots.

Worse, ask the stupid unity beggars from the south of Nigeria to go and settle in the north of Nigeria, they will not, because of fear of Boko Haram and unfriendly environment of Sharia criminal codes in the north.

So what is the need begging for unity in a country, Nigeria, where no one from the southern region can comfortably elect to relocate to settle in northern Nigeria?

Drabeey:
why wont they honour them.

Awon eleya. ole gbogbo

THIEVES!

BTW, God bless PMB

he is our messiah, pls do not take him now.




Drabeey was HERE

Whenever some unsuspecting Yoruba is told that Yoruba is deeply divided between Muslim Yoruba and non-Muslim Yoruba groups, the unsuspecting Yoruba shouts "*olorun," religion doesn't separate Yorubas.

You remind them because the Muslim Yoruba group is strongly affiliated to the descendants of Othman Dan Fodio, and cannot think of having another country without the descendants of Othman Dan Fodio, hence Oduduwa country is impossible, they say you are separating Yorubas.
Hmmmm.


Make I wake pass.

gocac:
sometimes I just wonder....if some of my fellow citizens get brains or na just coconut head.
you are in a serious recession and your still battling with the sad effects, yet your deceiving yourselves of being a power house in Africa. this is self deceit.

Did Britain borrow money to build the first rail roads in Nigeria? Even if Britain did, did it not build rails to include east, west, north and south of Nigeria?

But Buhari govt is borrowing money to build rail lines for SW and north with a section of SS, mainly for siphoning oil proceeds from SS, and taken to the SW for onward transmission to Abuja in the north. It excluded SE and NE.

The loan shall be repaid by South, East, West and North of Nigeria. But the SE and NE and huge parts of SS shall also be included in repaying the loan for rails for NW and SW.

Worse, his govt schemes that similar rail road for SE shall whenever possible in future be conceded to a private company who shall build it and charge cut-throat prices from users in the SE to NE.


What a most wicked govt ever in the History of mankind.

How does any sane human being deduce that Nigeria shall exist ten years from now, talk less become a giant in the face of all these?


Jonathan from the SS built the first ever standard rail gauge costing $1.059 billion in the north. Yet Buhari clan has the audacity to do these evil things.

Rossikki:
Nigeria by 2050 will be the the world's 3rd most populous nation on earth, after China and India.


https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/jun/13/nigeria-larger-population-us-2050



Egypt of the Pharoahs

900 BC was the tail end of the mighty Egyptian empire, which had lasted for thousands of years, and had been Africa's Number 1 nation, exporting knowledge and technology across the earth.

The great empire of Mali, between the 10th and 16th centuries AD, tried hard to replicate the Egyptian miracle in the heart of West Africa, but eventually fell short due to lack of resources.

NOW COMES NIGERIA.

''We project new emerging economies like Mexico and Indonesia to be larger than the UK and France by 2030
(in PPP terms) while Turkey could become larger than Italy. Nigeria and Vietnam could be the fast growing
large economies over the period to 2050.'' PriceWaterHouseCoopers

https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/the-economy/assets/world-in-2050-february-2015.pdf


''Indonesia, Mexico and Nigeria could push UK and France out of top 10 Economies''

http://www.pwc.com/jp/en/japan-press-room/press-release/2015/world-in-2050-150227.html


Nigeria, the emerging African Colossus, set to have a larger population than the USA in a couple of decades. With a projected GDP by 2050 of $7.3 TRILLION, the nation is a growing magnet for high end indigenous and foreign investment, and is projected to be among the world's top 10 economies by 2050.

NIGERIA appears set to lead a powerful African resurgence onto the world scene, and make Africa Great Again.

Figments of someone's imagination.


Power as far as Nigeria is concerned is buying arms and ammunition and train its soldiers in a peculiar way to kill Nigerian citizens tired of asking for restructuring the polity, were refused, they then take to militancy and secessionist moves.


Who said Nigeria of today shall exist by 2050?

EvilMetahuman:
gimme a break abeg.

Yoruba demanded the same in 2011, instead what did we get?
This
https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-
marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

Did yorubas set the country on fire cos of this? Nope
Did we go about abusing other tribes for the marginalisation we did not even deserve?
To think we even voted for this same gej.

Instead, we went back to the drawing board.
Why can't these people do the same instead of trying to blackmail us with Biafra chant?

Biafra agitation began before Buhari presidency, Biafra agitation started shortly after the masters of Yoruba, the Hausa/Fulani/Kanuri of far northern Nigeria started to adopt Islamic Sharia criminal codes.

Remember, OBJ government imprisoned Uwazurike of MASSOB.


Jonathan government imprisoned Biafra agitators who tried to take control of Enugu state govt house.

So stop telling lies insinuating that agitation for Biafra started because Jonathan lost Power.

Come out openly and state that you're clutching tightly to the sinking One Nigeria ship because the ship contains crude oil.

Raji Fashola as governor of Lagos state replied Igbos asking for sixth state in the SE. Fashola replied that there was no need for any new state; he added that what Nigeria required was creation of new local government areas.

Loooooool, great politician, Raji.

A new state in the southeast?

Lol. Mention it, the first to kick against it were the most "Shophischicated" tribesmen from the SW.

They asked you: are you crazy to ask for more states while most of the existing 36 states are not viable, can't even pay workers salaries? Hollow argument of theirs.

But they didn't know that they were equally shooting the entire southern region on the foot, because paucity of states in the SE amounts to inadequate political representation of the entire Southern region in Nigeria's political process.

Abeg, no bring back yesterday's arguments.

Kikikiki,

New state in the Southeast zone to bury Biafra agitation? You never begin.

How do you restructure the brains of religious extremists of far northern Nigeria to respect the sanctity of human lives, in their bid to intimidate others in order to dip their Holy Book in the non-Muslim eastern Nigeria side of the Atlantic Ocean?

Rossikki:
This whole Biafra of a thing makes me laugh. The idea that Nigeria will just sit back and allow the region that provides almost 90% of federal govt revenue to just SECEDE from the country is just...laughable. The FG will fight tooth and nail to prevent it, make no mistake. It's like Texas deciding they want to secede from the US, taking the whole US oil industry with them. An industry worth trillions of dollars. Washington will never allow it, if you like, carry placard from New York to Alaska.

And you are not ashamed to write this?

They have started to produce vehicles that need no fuel.
Therefore, before long, you may have to drink that crude oil which holds a country one for parasites.


No body told you that the richest countries on earth have no crude oil.

No body told you that crude oil is not all there is for a country to survive on.


No body told you that Tourism is the greatest foreign exchange earner for peaceful, tourism countries, after manufacture and Service businesses;

but in Nigeria, the Boko Haram and herdsmen cultivated and used by the Nigerian group you seem to work for, have made Nigeria a most tourism-unfriendly country.

Those you work for used unfriendly environment of Sharia criminal codes, and Boko Haram, which also fights for a country to be ruled with Islamic Sharia criminal codes, to chase away most Southern Nigerians from the vast lands of northern Nigeria;

yet, because of crude oil in the Niger delta southern region, you still want to fight for continuation of failed Nigeria.

Which country exists in the world where people from its southern region cannot comfortably decide to relocate to its northern region, except your One Nigeria?

Abeg, waka pass with your crude oyel booty.

Rossikki:
Err. No. The disunity (as exemplified by the Biafra movement) is based on oil.

When were you born?

In 1967, when Biafra seceded from Nigeria, crude oil was not discoverd except in Oloibiri which was fetching like peanuts to Nigeria then.

The killing mine - Sharia criminal codes in the north - beginning 1999 recharged the battery for Biafra agitation.

Boko Haram violence that expelled southerners from north poured acid to agitation for Biafra.

Fulani herdsmen and arrest of Nnamdi Kalu inflamed the agitation for Biafra.

If what worries you is losing oil proceeds from the oil producing, non-Igbo areas in the SS if they eventually join Biafra, please accept them if they agree to remain with what shall be left of Nigeria without Biafra. No be by force ooo.

newyorks:
killing in the place of worship. see people i share the same country with. #abokies.senseless maggots.

That sharing of a country with this people who have no respect for human life MUST end - and soon.

Those easterners who talk about political restructuring, can you also restructure the heads of these religious extremists in northern Nigeria? No way.

Like Hell Rufai like Adama Oshiomehole - mindless liars

Kathmandu:
Haters like omenkalives and deji can now buy wheelbarrow and go down to Anambra and start moving ugu from inside farm to the town

Omenkalive? His farm in Agatu, Benue state has gone to the herdsman.

OnankpaBa:
yeye IPOB. as if they can bark. Buratai is there to do his work as usual

Insult me and watch how thunder will fire you.

A divided Army of Nigeria can't conquer even Dahomey.

Janjaweeed section of Nigeria Army who specialize in shooting unarmed Biafrans must pay dearly in future.

Realtouchnot:
Chai, Owelle and drama be 5&6.


Rocha's Projections for 2019



- His wife…Senator Representing Orlu Zone

Wow!!!

Wondering what Gov. Rochas and wife shall tell people when she campaigns for Senate Seat to represent Orlu zone.


1) Imo state university teaching hospital in Orlu - reduced to comatose state as Rochas refused to provide for accreditation of courses; refused to asphalt dilapidated hospital roads, owes arrears of salaries to workers;

2) Much-vaunted Mgbidi International Market - for where;

3) Urban Drainage project started by former governor Ikwechegh, and which could have also saved the Orlu-Akokwa road - not completed.

4) Orlu Regional Water Supply Scheme, the principal objective which made Orlu massively vote Rochas in 2011 - not started;

5) Roads in Orlu urban area excavated since 2012 abandoned;


6) Prince Hotel Orlu - foundation stone laid since 2012, that's all;

7) Sports Stadium project - abandoned;


( Road to Orlu Catholic Diocesan Church - in shambles;

9) Most important road to have led to International Market - abandoned.


Oh, they shall tell: we built the first-ever double lanes road with street lamp poles and school of Hygiene.

olab059:
Because Imo (Owerri) is the faji capital of the whole Nigeria. And when some people see some guys flexing and they don't have money to flex, they resort to crime to get fast money.

Owerri Faj Capital of Nigeria?

Young flesh concentrate in Owerri - close to 180,0000 from all govt higher academic institutions in Imo state STUPIDLY LOCATED in one Owerrri area.
The town is going bananas with crime.

Worse, Owerri landlords who make millions upon millions of Naira monthly from landed property ask for more.
The present governor agrees with the landlords. Imo state outside Owerri knows little or no modernity from this govt.

But is the Chinese man a mugu? Why would he withdraw N10m cash from a bank? In these days of POS and bank transfers everywhere?


With a smartphone, in less than half the time he used to travel to the bank, the Chinaman could have paid all the money to the accounts of his clients.

Leopantro:
why is it so rampant in Imo state?

In Owerri.


because everything in Imo is in Owerri; because of bad leadership of all governors of Imo state - except Mbakwe.

Abacha is not Corrupt.

Jonathan is corrupt.


Let Jonathan enjoy the one Naija he struggled to uphold.

Never seen something.

Redhot111:
And u will react to every poked - nose issue when ur country is in a deep mess. If u try and it's not working yet, u keep trying and while u are on it, u shouldn't 4get to do things dat giv u joy or else u may not last long enough to see wat u struggled 4.

But how many more years do we try on the same Nigeria experiment? Until crude oil finishes?

GloriaNinja:
NIGERIANS WILL POKE-NOSE AND REACT TO EVERYTHING, WHEN THEIR OWN COUNTRY IS IN A DEEP MESS.

One even even finds it hard to understand their tweets.

Hounded from Pillar to Post - like a rat; Patience and Jonah.
Abacha's wife enjoys.

Anyhow, that's the one Nigeria she and her husband struggled dearly to retain while in office. They are enjoying the fanfare of TV lights.

That's a good question before you invest in landed property in Nigeria.

Try Orlu in Imo state; land is cheap here, but the city is very large and thickly populated, with propensity to become another industrial hub in the east after nearby Nnewi.

AbuEzeFemi:
fire service is for federal government not imo

Federal Fire Service is different from State Fire Service. Below is Imo State Fire Service Owerri, built by Okorocha govt.

Anyhow, in Imo, some clan seriously believes that govt has no business doing anything outside the state capital:


a drainage project in Orlu started by former Imo governor, Ikwechegh, the present governor was told that it is a federal project; he seems to have agreed.

Imo state govt proposed regional water schemes for Owerri, Orlu and Okigwe. Owerri water scheme was built and utilized for almost two decades, the story for today's govt is that it is the responsibility of federal govt to build the same proposed water schemes in Orlu and complete that of Okigwe. Gov. Okorocha seems to have agreed.

Imo State Fire Station in Orlu under Okorocha govt.

Orlu residents contribute to build their roads and drainage systems while the state governor builds 8 lane streets and road tunnels and underground drainage and flyovers elsewhere, because the elsewhere was pronounced state capital.

How does one describe madness?

Orlu urban streets. How come a state governor builds 8 lane streets and fly overs and tunnels in one part of the state but leaves these streets in another part of the same state like they are five years now?