Even if it becomes 5 years tenure, how does the existing skewed political structure of Nigeria under unitary govt system with excess power in Abuja, stop the emergence of quacks as president and governors? Instead of going for political restructuring of Nigeria to enthrone regional or zonal government system with fiscal federalism, these law makers want to end the tenures of the existing president and governors quickly, so that the law makers shall quickly succeed the present president and governors.
NwekereNdokl: You are a bush man from timid nsukka. Anambra is a monolithic state. Why is that too bitter for you ediots inferior igbos to understand ?
Igala man calling Nsukka man bushman, ediots, and inferior Igbos. Reply with one handle, not use your many handles on NL here. Why don't you ask for your Igala people in Kogi state to be joined to a new Anambra State? Igbo territory in any state outside the southeast zone remains Igbo territory.
Abagworo: Nnewi is isu. Agbaja Isu and they're same stock as Orlu area originally who are also Isu and Agbaja Isu all the way to Okwelle. You Igbos should try and learn your true history and stop assuming based on government created artificial districts. Orlu itself was just a small Isu town that found favour of being a divisional headquarters by the Europeans. Nobody in Orlu zone is of any subgroup called Orlu. Present day Ihiala LGA on the other hand is mostly Orsu and Oru clan alongside parts of Orlu, Nnewi South and Oguta LGAs. Some Orsu towns can be easily identifiable through the prefix or suffix of "orsu" in their town names like Orsumoghu, Eziorsu, Orsuobodo, Orsuihiteukwa, Orsuimenyi etc but others are through dialect and cultural practise like masquerade. Orsu itself is also a hybrid of the Isu, Nri, Igala and other Igbo migrants from across River Niger. At the Eastern end is the Akokwa, Umuchu, Uga, Arondizuogu, Umunze etc who are mostly Isu, Nri and Aro/Ohafia/Abam mixed heritage. So all these arguments about monolithic zone doesn't make sense. When you come down to the South the Ohaji are just same stock as as parts of Oratta, Ogba and Ikwerre subgroups while the Oguta and Egbema comprise mostly Igbo migrants feom across River Niger mixed with Isu , Oru and Aro. Some communities like Izombe and Arondizuogu are majority of Aro heritage. Orlu zone is just a geopolitical zone created for administrative purposes cause if it was based solely on subgroup then places like Mbaitoli, Ikeduru, Onuimo, Mbanos would have been in same zone with their fellow Isu instead of being jammed with Okigwe Otanzu subgroups.
I am against State creation but it is important Igbos learn history and stop wallowing in ignorance. Anioma is good if it will be added to Southeast and help increase the voting strength and voice of Igbos.
Bros, you made a great input except your take that Anioma vote increasing the vote strength of the Igbo? If Igbos vote Igbos in presidential election, Aniomas will be assumed to vote Igbo presidential candidates. So creating Anioma state as 6th state for the southeast does not increase the voting strength of Igbos. Instead creating Anioma state as sixth state in the southeast zone diminishes Igbo political representation in Abuja. Do the Maths.
Chikeluba25: I am glad u have counter your own word. That's the beauty of proven fact.
Now you have swallow bk ur word, knowing fully well that there is nothing like Orlu origin, and that Anambra is one great family; Can you now go back and make peace/live in harmony with your Owerri, Okigwe, Orlu brothers as one great state (IMO) instead of trying to divide another person's home? If possible inspire/influence River state Igbos next to you like Anambra does with her neighbors. Atleast let them be proud to say "I am Igboman" anywhere they are like Anioma people of Delta state.
Daalu.
There's nothing like Anambra origin. Anambra is a recent dictation beginning in 1976, from a military govt to denote Omambala River areas beginning from Uzo-Uwani up to Nkisi River and joining River Niger. Omambala River does not pass through Anambra South. But Orlu origin has been there before written history. Orlu Division has been there since colonial era. Orlu Division comprised many of the communities in today's Abambra South senatorial district.
Igbos can't continue to be their worst enemy. By the time people like you argue over non existent Monolithic Abambra, they will amend the Constitution and create states like Gboko, Kafanchan, Ijebuode, etc; and tell you the southeast is small in landmass and does not deserve another state. That makes Igbos become further underrepresented in Abuja politics. People like you will then start to shout "Nigeria is marginalising Igbos." People like you will take to Igbo streets to shout "lefelendum or death."
OnoVegasBlog: Anambra is a monolithic state.. hence the unity in their state. The group you mentioned are not.. The Aba people never advocated for Abia state.. Go and read the history of Abia State and how some groups persuaded the federal government to create Abia State instead of Aba state.. Aba people (Ngwa and Ukwa) would have been better had it been the were marged with Etche and Mbaise...
I bumped into this thread by accident. I saw it was created far back in 2021.
Highlight from the thread: "It is important to note that the likes of Onuimo (now in Okigwe zone), Ihiala, parts of Aguata, Nnewi South, and Orumba (all in Anambra) that were once under the old Orlu division are not part of the current make-up of Orlu. Each of them now fall under different senatorial zones and states."
Chikeluba25: There is no Igbo grouping called Orlu state... And there is nothing like Orlu in the history and origin of Igbo. The Father of Igbo is Eri and Igbo ancestral home is Aguleri in Anambra. His house (Obu gad) Is till there till today. His 7 children are Aguleri, Igbariam, Nteje, Amanuke, Nsugbue and Nri... From there he enlarge his coast to Igboukwu, Anedo (Nnewi), Dunukofia. His first daughter "Iguedo" Begot Ogbunike (Okpala umu Iguedo), Umueri, Ika (Agburuika) in Onitsha, Awkuzu, Nteje Nando, all in Anambra. Igbo staf of authority is in Nri (Nri ji offor Igbo) in Aniocha LGA of Anambra state. I can go on and on with proof. Have you seen why Anambra is more Igbo than Orlu.
I did write that their's Old Orlu Division comprising some local govt areas in present Anambra south. I did not write that Orlu state is an original Igbo grouping. Repeat: Anambra State made up of 21 local government areas is a term for Anambra communities in Anambra, not naturally born a monolithic group; and will never be; because creating of new federating units in a country NEVER ENDS.
NwekereNdokl: Listen lemme warn you, if you don’t take your tantrums to your imo state thread, I will launch attack in that thread. Take your stoopid Orlu state to imo state. Anambra is a coinage from Omambala. Omambala existed even before Nigeria. Anambra is a monolithic state , no part of Anambra is interested in your useless state creation. Anambra can never be part of your Orlu state , the earlier you know this the better for you . There’s no single state agitation in Anambra and no town in Anambra wants to go out of Anambra . There’s no Anambra town that’s under Orlu parish not today and not before. Instead it was much of imo state that were in Anambra until it was carved to maintain original omambala. So stop spewing nonsense or this discussion will land in imo thread .
Ha ha ha. But I told you that I come in peace. Reread all what you wrote above. Which of them can pass any test for truth? None. We were all in East Central State. So what is all the drive to deny the Southeast a sixth state it deserves?
onumadu: This is not true. At all. And that is because you have Nnewi North and South there too. You also have Ekwusigo LGA there too. You may talk about Ihiala (I need to confirm this first though), but even that is a stretch. And when talking about political/cultural things, please forget about the Catholic church districts. We are talking about POLITICAL leanings, and you need to show me political proofs to support your view. Most of them are also "Nri-Awka". As I mentioned already, their representative at the national assembly is already kicking and screaming NO to the idea. Until you get me politicians from the area supporting the idea, you are not landing any points.
The two Reps from Anambra south said they were not consulted, not that they rejected the proposal. You know what consultation in today's Nigeria's political parlance means. Lobby possibly with cash.
But when Mbadinuju from Anambra south was governor of Anambra state, he and then Imo state gov, Udenwa, spearheded the demand for creation of Njaba state then, the same Njaba state proposal called Orlu state this time. Another former military gov from Anambra south as well as traditional rulers from Anambra south also resolved for creation of Njaba state.
NwekereNdokl: You are very correct. Anambra is a monolithic state
FYI, 1) there is no Igbo grouping known as Abambra, not to talk of non existent monolithic Abambra state. 2) Anambra is a coinage by northern military dictators who created states. 3) Anambra River known as Omambala flowing from Uzo-Uwani to Nkisi River and joining River Niger, does not pass through Abambra South senatorial district. 4) Much of today's Abambra South were originally in Orlu Division before the beginning of creation of states in Nigeria. 5) Even today, much of the Church Parishes in Anambra south are in Orlu Dioceses. 6) Even today, many people from Abambra South are members of Old Orlu Divisional Unions outside Igbo land, and in foreign countries. 7) Abambra State University in Uli, near Orlu, was established by former gov Mbadinuju from Uli, but when Mbadinuju left office, Abambra State House of Assembly moved to remove the university from Uli, because they knew that parts of Anambra south would in no distant time form a new state with Orlu senatorial zone. At last, the university was renamed Odumegwu Ojukwu University, and parts of the University taken to another location in Abambra North. I come in peace ✌️
noleflendum: Mmesoma who forged JAMB result comes to mind Just do something unthinkable from that side and get scholarship immediately
After more than 50 years your people excluded people from that side, led Nigeria to be the poverty capital of the world; you still don't have shame left in you to talk nonsense online. Your Quota System is still on. Those girls could have been in school if not for your Quota System.
Residents in a Nigerian neighborhood are outraged after some police officers were seen going door-to-door, demanding settlements. Footage captured by a resident shows officers peering through windows and asking people to come out and settle, though it is unclear what the settlements are for.
In the video, one resident can be heard asking, "Settlement for what exactly? Did we steal your money?" while refusing to open the door.
The incident has sparked fear and confusion among residents, who are questioning the legality of the officers' demands.
Police is government. Recruiting stark or educated illiterates into a country's police force is a hit below the belt. A country's government can temporarily collapse or even non existent, but once the country's police force is working, law and order shall remain in the country without government.
Mrexcell: A governor from another zone might change this trend someday.
But not governor from Owerri zone. Former gov Emeka Ihedioha from Owerri zone quickly gave orders for Imo state university in Owerri be expanded in Owerri where all the 5 federal universities and Polytechnics in Imo state are located. All those 5 universities and Polytechnics were in Owerri zone when former gov Evans Enwerem from Owerri zone located Imo state university in Owerri.
Mrexcell: I have been thinking about this too am from imo state okigwe zone to be precise but wonder anytime I travel around imo why development is not getting to other zones except owerri zone.
Development does not come to any place from nothing. Location of government institutions or private sector large businesses in any place is what induces development in the area. The rest of Imo state outside Owerri zone has been doomed since Owerri zone collected all government institutions that induce human and economic development. Even if Imo governors come from Orlu and Okigwe zones for the next 100 years, but Owerri still holds all factors that lead to modern development, nothing changes.
Anambra River region and culture: Omambala was the name of the ancient goddess whose river runs from the Uzo-uwa-ani underworld to Aguleri, Anam, Nsugbe and Onicha axis, where it connects with Nkisi & Niger-kwora/Mgbakili Rivers in their journey to the Atlantic Ocean.
Omambala areas of present Anambra State are culturally and traditionally different to Anambra south senatorial district. Instead, most of Anambra south is culturally and traditionally related to Orsu/Oru in Orlu senatorial zone. Even the parish Churches of much of the local government areas in Anambra south are in Orlu Dioceses. Outside Igbo land, a lot of people from Anambra south are members of Old Orlu Divisional Unions, even abroad.
onumadu: I bolded the only justification you really have for breaking up people who don't want to be broken (Thank God that their own representative at the national assembly actually spoke out forcefully in support of my point, while you focus on OIL AND GAS).
When I said that the people are TYPICAL Anambra people, that is my point: We (Anambra people) don't focus on natural resources while making serious political decisions that cuts into sociocultural things that outlive political ones.
The people I mentioned believe in HUMAN resources (what they can do with their own hands and minds) more than oil and gas. You can easily verify this point.
I would wait till their politicians and reps come out openly to support your view before conceding this point. Meanwhile your gaslighting "Nazist-like" badge you are preparing for me won't stick. Reduce your emotions, and maybe, just maybe you may see my point.
Do you know that the name Anambra is only a river which doesn't traverse through the areas of Anambra south now cut out to join Imo West Senatorial district for Orlu state proposal? Do you know that Anambra is no description of any group in original Igbo grouping of people in Igboland? Do you know that the name "Anambra State" is a coinage by military dictators? How come the obsession in some of you with the name Anambra? Do you know that all of us in present Imo and Anambra States were in one state before 1976?
StreetFight: Most qualified to lead Igbos, not Nigerians.
You don't see Igbos as Nigerians, yet parasitic lifestyle will not allow you give up on Igbos in Nigeria. Whoever taught you that proceeds from crude oil in the Niger delta region is all there is for survival in Nigeria, that person put you into mental slavery for Nigeria.
How? Or is Reno Omokri still in name-dropping to amass wealth from online publishers? Obasanjo knew that Peter Obi was the most qualified of all the three foremost presidential aspirants then. Coming down to zoning for the presidency which has sustained Nigeria since 1999, it's the turn of the Igbo in the southeast to produce a successor to then President Buhari. Reno Omokri, you need to buy more sense.
Electrochemistry: Orlu state is dead on arrival like the level headed had already maintained and the sponsors lack moral credentials, maturity and competence for attempting to further miniaturized the existing states for the selfish interests of the greedy and the power thirsty.
With your tall English language, you are mentally incapacitated to not understand that creating Anioma, or any other state, from outside the southeast zone and make it a sixth state for the southeast, amounts to reducing political representation for Nd'Igbo in Abuja?
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If those places annexed by Russia were originally occupied by Russians, why would they be part of Ukraine?
Ezewuzie01: Ewu how will you separate Onitsha from Obosi, Nkpor, Nsugbe, Nkwelle etc to add to Anioma? Onitsha is glued to Anambra for life.
Your wretched Orlu state is never going to happen. Anioma state has full Anambra support and they will get it.
Anioma has been glued to Delta state. Anioma holds capital of Delta state. Anioma holds the yam and knife in Delta state. There has been demand for sixth state in the southeast zone to make for adequate political representation for people in southeast zone. Removing Anioma from the southsouth zone making it a sixth state in the southeast zone is like DECREASING political representation in Abuja central government for Nd'Igbo in Nigeria.
Ezewuzie01: It is interesting that the Ohaji people prefer to join Rivers state rather than remain in Imo state. Imo state must really be an unjust state that almost all its constituents want to run away from Owerri
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Primitive greed of Owerri people made Imo state the most unjust state in Nigeria.
All the 5 federal universities and Polytechnics in Imo state are forced to be located in Owerri. They still forced Imo state university to be located in Owerri.
All the federal housing estates for Imo state were forced to be located in Owerri zone.
All government ministries and paratarals in Imo state are located in Owerri. Even this year, Owerri dragged the new Federal university teaching hospital for Imo state and got it located in Owerri. Owerri people don't consider any place in Imo state outside Owerri as part of Imo state.
Imo is Owerri state in disguise.
Even the Secratariat of oil producing areas of Ohaji-Egbema is located in Owerri.
Ttipsy: The big question now is will Anioma, Ikwerre, and other igbos in other states like to rejoin their Eastern brothers ?
Can they accept it the way yorubas in Kogi and kwara will accept going back to south west ?
Owerri man and false propaganda. Who told you that Anioma people want to rejoin the southeast zone? Ikwerre doesn't even accept that they are Igbos. All you want is tigh up Orlu zone to Imo state for the benefit of only your Owerri as usual; after your Owerri lobbied for and got all federal and state government institutions that induce human and economic development and located them in Owerri area. That makes only Owerri zone develop and prosper at the expense of Orlu and Okigwe zones that are deteriorating. You don carry your selfishness to antagonise the good idea of returning regional or zonal government system to Nigeria.
Orlu loves you. You are like saying say no to justice, say no to just representation of the SE in federal government, it's like say no to more development in ala Igbo. If not, where else do you want an extra state in the southeast if not in Orlu area, following the pattern of creating the old states in the southeast? What do you think has been popping up Orlu/Njaba state since 2005 if not that Nigerians of superior intelligence know where an additional state for the southeast fits?
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EreluRoz: I'll always chose Atiku over that sneaky pretentious thief Onuku Peter Obi .
I like people who still play fair irrespective of their differences, that's how I am, I may not agree with someone but you'll catch me defending the person elsewhere and you'll wonder what type of person I am. Hatred doesn't penetrate my precious skin.
To those I'll mannered and untrained kids that'll laugh at this and spew nonsense you should relax and wait for what advanced age has in waiting for you, it is just a normal slip which could happen to anyone.
You are still not bothered by your Igbophobia which defines your choice of leaders for Nigeria? In a real country, Peter Obi was the most qualified of the foremost three presidential candidates in 2023. Na today? Pray for those you people make hunger quench together with you in Nigeria.
The old man said his Igbo Ndoki is supposed to be in Rivers state. He said his father told him that they came from Rivers state. Someone will now ask for creation of Ndoki state to become part of the southeast zone, to reunite Igbos.
OfoIgbo: The point is that no Anambra community wants to join any Orlu state.
An Ozubulu friend of mine didn't even know such a bill was being considered, and was totally against being seen as a non-Anambrarian. The vast majority of the Anambra people being earmarked for Orlu state have not really being consulted, and will not like the fact that they are no longer in the same state as other Anambrarians whom they feel more affinity towards, and resonate with the hardcore Igbo nature of the ordinary Anambrarian.
Anambra people are too Igbotic in their mindset that they will not appreciate being merged with Igbos they consider lightweight, who can easily be tricked by landgrabbing neighbouring tribes like Edo and Ijaw, into believing they are not Igbos. Count Anambra people out from such a union.
The point you are ignorant of is that politicians from this part of Anambra south jointly signed for Njaba State during the Obasanjo administration, and the same circumstances prevail today for the same Njaba now nicknamed Orlu State. Don't be deceived by a few people that are not from Anambra state who have been writing rubbish here. Most of the people from that part Anambra South have ancestral ties and speak similar Igbo dialect with people in many parts of Orlu senatorial district. Loads of the church parishes in this part of Anambra south even belong to Orlu Diocese today. When you don't know much about an area, stop writing rubbish about the area
pazienza: You are just an Orlu man more interested in having your small Orlu state than on Igbo overall interests. Let me let you know now incase you don't. The oldest state agitation in SE that hasn't been created is Adada state, so even if they are going to create a state from SE, who told you that Orlu will take pre-eminence? You think Nsukka people don't want that same parochial selfish benefit of state and development you want over there in Orlu?
I don't know why some of you can't be reasonable for once!
Anioma state is of importance to Ndiigbo. This is not about development or Nigerian politics, this is about our future as Ndiigbo in this planet earth!
Anioma doesn't need SS, it's SS that needs Anioma! Anioma has humongous natural gas and crude oil in Ndokwa and Ukwuani axis. Further crude oil and gas have been discovered in Ika axis too! Anioma has the highest quality of human resources in the entire SS region. They are unparalleled, unmatched! So nope, it's not Anioma that needs SS, its SS that needs Anioma!
Furthermore, being in SE is of Anioma best interest. It will help her solve the identity crisis issues and weed off the Bini and other Minorities expansionists that are sizing up their lands using few deluded ignorant efuluefus among them.
Anioma state in SE zone will bring Anioma home where it belongs, give her total control of her destiny in the midst of healthy Igbo kin and kiths who sees them as brothers and not as competition as is obtainable in the babelian region of a thousand ethnicities you call SS!
Everyone can see the moon from his hunt, yet elders insisted we all gathered in the village square to see it together.
Togetherness breeds organic unity and keeps hawks away.
Orlu senatorial district is about 3 times the size of your proposed Anioma State. Orlu senatorial district is many times less developed than the area in your proposed Anioma State. Demand for Njaba State, now called Orlu State, was there before IBB created Delta state with Asaba as capital; before Anioma and Adada demands for state. Ohaneze NdIgbo which knows better the history of Igbo land and history of state creation in Igbo land adopted Njaba State, now renamed Orlu state, as the 6th state in the SE during the National Political Reforms Conference in 2006. Njaba State was about to be created before then Senate president, Nnamani, unconsciously discarded the baby with the bathtub in a hostility against 3rd term for Obasanjo. You sell snake oil with your talk of reuniting Igbos through creating Anioma State for the SE. Igbo is united. Enugu, Nsukka and Abakaliki senatorial zones were in Enugu State when Abakaliki zone was cut out of Enugu State for Ebonyi state. Nsukka people asking for Adada state lost it when Abakaliki was cut out of Enugu State. No saner person can divide Enugu State again to get Adada state while Imo and Anambra states remain the same. The senators from the SE zone are asking for a merited sixth state in the SE zone. A new state cut from Imo and Anambra states, or a new state from Imo gets it. Orlu senatorial zone made up of 12 LGAs and most underdeveloped part of Igbo land gets the nod for a 6th state in the SE