₦airaland Forum

Please my friends here stop hating Dangote; He is a blessing to Nigeria. People like him developed American and European economies.
Lafarge and others are also producing Cement in Nigeria. Lafarge was the organisation that complained about IBETO, because Ibeto was and still only re-bagging cement against an instruction from the FG that they should start local production. They were sanction for not having a plan to produce locally. By the way, he is not a monopoly as i would demonstrate with the following products of the company; Lafarge, Eatern Bulkcem and other also produce Cement. For Noodles, Indomie, Chikki, Tummy and the rest also produce. For Pasters: Nigerian Flour mills, Vallumbra are competing. For Juice, there are too many too numerous to mention. Sugar: Anybody can produce locally or import as he wishes.

I feel sick when i see the way people insult INNOSON, ZINOX, DANGOTE, OANDO e.t.c and their owners for being monopolistic; for God's sake they can use their influence to get all the money and invest the money abroad. There are too many examples of those who steal our money to invest abroad.

Please lets thank them for using their influence to create jobs and opportunities for Nigerians all over.

I think we should read the report well; it does not look authentic to me. I am afraid that some forces know how much hatred we have for one another and they are using the most sensitive points to destroy the little strand of hope holding us together.

I hope it is not true, but if it is true, will BH install Sahria over dead people? I think they are confused and devilish, if this is true. Their days are numbered. We shall get them out of life soon.

For those who are wishing for Nigeria's division as a solution to our numerous problems, please remember IFE/MODAKEKE, UMULERI/AGULERI, IJAW/ITSEKIRI/URHOBO, TIV/JUKUN, BIROM/HAUSA inter/intra ethnic wars of recent times. Since this year (only one month), 250 people have been killed in Ishellu (several displaced) and other places in Ebonyi. Lets not forget that in Southern Sudan that got western imposed freedom, over 1,000 have been killed and tens of thousands displaced in ethnic wars within the new country of less than a year.

Some countries thrive in the destruction of others.

No part of Nigeria is monolithic in anything! Lets be careful. Our problem is leadership not the people of Nigeria!

I use GLO because it is Nigerian and gives me the best rate on calls to all network.
My MTN is only good to receive calls and make some occasional on-net calls.
My Etisalat is a stand by line.

Even Minister Okonjo-Iweala agreed that there is TRUST deficit between Government and citizens.

My problem is: can i do better in all honesty? If i get the opportunity, won't i do worse?

Corruption knows no tribe, colour or religion!

My own kobo.

I want to say that i don't agree with the life style of these children whether that of Allison or other top government officials. I think they are extremely reckless.

I however don't have evidence that the Minister stole money. She was born into a very rich family and as a Director in SHELL she was earning a huge amount of money. I can tell you some junior managers in some of these oil companies earn more than N2 million per month, talk less of a Director. In addition, the husband is extremely rich. By the way, is that her biological (or step) son?

The corruption in Nigeria is so massive that we find it difficult to trust anyone,

Why are all our leaders who claim to love us so much not educating their children in our schools, that they organize for us? They don't attend the hospital they build for us! Why?

We don't have leaders, but wicked exploiters.

Whatever we do, i want us to have SNC, so that we can agree on how to live together in peace.

It is irrelevant whether SE, and the others have oil or not, what matters is their contributions to the polity. Most of the oil produced in US comes from a few states such as TEXAS and CALIFORNIA, but US makes more from sales of arms, services, intellectual properties and so on.



You can not for example deny that the Igbos are using their undeniable skill to run this economy in all facets. No group can does claim to have the only means of sustaining a nation; that is pretentious.  Many nations survive without and in spite of oil.

I don't know if i am naive or simply not reading things correctly, but i don't think NLC/NUC officials were bribed.

I believe listening to Esele's interview on BBC this morning that they were ambushed. Abdul-Waheed does not have the oratorical power of Oshiomole and needed to be careful not to be accused with ethnic/religious bias. Esele is a staunch supporter of GEJ. He was one of those who introduced the ethnic card in the debate leading to the Presidential election. He publicly supported the outcome as being unassailable.

Oshiomole is a disappointment to me personally. If i know what i can do physically and otherwise, i would want him to loose his re-election bid. May God protect us from such dangerous men like OSHIOMOLE!

FEG- Oppressor
NLC/TUC- Oppressed

Someone said we should allow them remove the entire thing and then hold them to ransom when they fail; sorry, i don't know of any method we can use in holding them to account.

There is no way to hold our leaders to account for poor leadership because 1. They would hit our heads together and rig to win election 2. They would bribe a few of us to say the opposite of what makes sense.

I am ready for a PMS price of N300/liter, no matter what we the people feel.

I would like to address the question posted this way:
The FEG intimidated Labour because they can do that and have all the means of intimidation. If they want the price of Petrol to rise to N300 by December, 2012, they will do it and cannot be stopped.

Before i give my reasons, let me make it clear that i don't believe there is subsidy to be removed and i believe the price increase will lead t untold hardship to Nigerians, no matter what the believers of the FEG says. Obasanjo removed it on Diesel and DPK, what did they do with the money? Increase in recurrent expenditure. GEJ has continued on that path. A guy who used to transport goods from Aba with N13,000 for a bus paid N23,000 for the same amount of goods. I know this would fuel inflation. We should be ready for further increase in PMS prices shortly. I am happy to be on the side of Labour, Profs Chinua Achebe and Tam David-West.

Labour had no choice than to back down because:

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[li]People started loosing their lives and some miscreants started joining the largely peaceful parade
[/li] Some Ijaws turned the struggle into tribal fight and started making insightful statement against other Nigerians, especially Yoruba and Hausa
[li][/li]With extreme poverty in the land, people became wary and were ready to accept anything just to get back to the street to keep trying
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[/list]The Governors and some CAN officials started turning it into a religious matter
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[/list]If the labour refused at this point, they would be crushed and nothing will happen as the polity is already divided and Nigerians are polarised.
[/list] I feel for Labour for fighting for the masses, they new they were going to be messed up, but they were left with no options.


As for those praising the President as a strong man, i beg to disagree, as i don't consider as tough a father who starve his child to death or flog him to end in the hospital for demanding a right to a minimum standard of living.

My prayer is that that we shall all not be disappointed.

I just had a report of killing of Hausa somewhere at Rumumasi, Portharcourt. The Northerners are leaving PH now in trailers, buses and any means they can get. Its horrible! I hope GEJ would help us in Nigeria.

That GEJ is corrupt is not contested by even his most fanatical supporter. Let us not talk about that. A study of the budget for 2011/2012 shows a number of criminal duplication. During the PDP convention during which he was nominated he gave $7,000 to each of the delegates that attended the event.

In my area, his election was manifestly rigged, as i personally witnessed at two polling centers and reported by other critical observers, one of whom almost got himself killed for challenging the officials/government thugs.

I don't agree that given additional money to such a person is right.

I mean NBC not NCC.

Another Presenter on Radio just confirmed it now that they have been instructed not to talk about Fuel Subsidy.

My location: Aba. The radio stations i am monitoring are located in Port Harcourt

This is unfortunate but true.

A broadcaster said 30 mins ago that a co-presenter should not make him loose his job by discussing the fuel subsidy.

I am angry and very, very sad for myself and Nigeria.

I think NCC is trying to stifle contrary opinion.

VoodooDoll,
Thanks for finally getting my point; but i'm not happy that you are not careful with your use of the word "rubbish". It is not a good expression in a civilized debate like this.

The Ireland crisis is between Catholic and Protestant Christians. Google it.

As far as i am concerned, nobody can defend God. Anybody who kills without provocation is neither a true Christian of Muslim!

Thanks anyway.

VoodooDoll, you wrote that i am writing rubbish when i articulated in the most logical manner that BH are not Muslims and all their quotations of the Quran were out of context. I deplore their actions. In fact, they have killed more Muslims than Christians. When you say i am talking rubbish after writing all that, what is that?

BH are working in the interest if countries that want to sale weapons. Saudi Arabia just signed another $30 billion contract for weapons they don't know how to use to defend themselves against an imaginery enemy, Iran, which has not invaded any other country in 250 years (according to a BBC analyst).

lets watch it. War is not a tea party. We have a common enemy as stated by Onaiyekan, which must be fished out and destroyed. I agree.

dbride.
You are drawing me back with your challenge. I don't like people who ignore other people's points but are unfairly pushing their agenda.

Who is a Terrorist? The United nation controlled by the Christian nations of the world have not been able to agree with the definition in spite of several meetings in the last 2 decades because the nation Christian) with the largest terrorist organisation/operation in the world would not allow it.

If the BBC can para phrase every killings by Christians everywhere in the world by their religion, the story would change. This is just working on your mind. For example, if i ask you if you watch PRESS TV you will probably say no, but proudly tell me how current (with extreme trust) you are of CNN. Everybody knows that they bend stories to suite their country's agenda. A recent case was Amanpour, a journalist who has worked with them for 22 years but was sacked for praising a recently dead Muslim Sheik.

Sir, are you aware that Northern Islanders are Christians and they are killing to protect their religion? Have you forgotten the Rev. Jones of Guyana and the one in Africa? If you don't agree, remember, the Reverend father who was part of the pogrom/killing (over 1 million) in Rewanda. LRA: Lord Resistance Army is a Christian terrorist organisation that kills, maims and rapes using children.
By the way, the peaceful Christians in Liberia and Sierra-Leone went into war destroying villages, raping, killing and amputating men.

Don't use the argument that one is expressive and the other is not. Even Bush said God (Is that Jesus? God forbid) sent him to fight evil which eventually lead to the death of over one million Iraqis and 4 miilion displaced, by some estimates.

My friend, please tabulate, and then we shall see where you belong; but please, be since!

By the way, I sympathize with you for leaving Islam, but please update your knowledge of the religion and understand why all the most recent studies have shown that in the last 10 years of 9/11 more westerners have converted to ISLAM. Western propaganda cannot stop the truth from been constant.

Dear VoodooDoll,
I am not here to trade insults with you.

If you insist on your long held view that Muslims means violence (including the 50% of your family members as you claimed) i cannot stop you.

Let me remind you that, at the turn of this century, the Jews [/b]were the target of the West's (Mainly Christians) hatred and scorn leading to the genocide during the 2nd world war. [b]Muslims are their current target. I hope the genocide committed by Bush in Iraq would be the last on Muslims.

If anyone refuses to see beyond the facade, i rest my case.

As for your challenge, i would refrain from bothering myself because you did not challenge the authenticity of my earlier claims but only changed the goal post. Since you are fixated on your believe I would be wasting my precious time responding with available facts you can see.

dbride. Thanks. I agree more Muslims have left the religion in this part of the world as a result of these incidences, but that is human not spiritual.

I'm out of here!

My brother, please use the same standards to arrive at your conclusions. Christians/Muslims can commit all kinds of evil. Neither of these religions is evil in my opinion, but if you must pick events to blackmail Islam, i can sight numerous examples to demonstrate how Christians can be labelled Terrorist.

The problem Islam is facing today is Western conspiracy using their powerful media. When a Muslim kills anywhere CNN, BBC and all their media tag their religion along, but when a Christian kills, his religion is conspicuously absent; a recent example is the Christian Terrorist who killed 77 people in Norway, who had his Christian leaning conspicuously disguised.

If you don't accept my explanations, without a fair study, i am not obliged to accept yours.

Thanks.

My comment here is to help open minded fellows who are willing to understand the Quranic verses referred to by the BH Killers:

Q2:190-194- Paraphrase: Says, fight those who fight you but don't exceed limits; stop if they stop. Comment: The first person that was killed by BH was Sheik Jafar in a mosque. He did not kill any of them, but only spoke against their misinterpretation of Quran

Q9:36- Paraphrase: 12 Months in Islam. Islam is the right religion. Fight only those who fight you. Allah is with those who are pious. Comment: Those Christians/people killed on 25th December, 2011 did nothing to BH.

Q22:39-41- Paraphrase: Permission is given to those wronged to fight back. Churches, Mosques, Synagogues and Monasteries where God's name are mentioned should not be touched. Comments: Is BH obeying this injunctions.

They also referred to traditions/Hadiths; We know that Prophet Mohammed (PBH) said clearly that Jihad is an internal fight with onself to restrain himself/herself from committing sin and seeking the pleasure of Allah.

As for those who may scorn or doubt the above explanations please refer the TAFSIR (Explanation of Quran) by Ibn Kathir, freely available online and Ma'ariful Quran by Maulana Mufti Muhammed.

If you are still not convinced then we must take the ordinary meaning of LUKE 19:27 where Jesus ordered children to be slaughtered (God forbid!) .

For those who claim Islam is associated with violence; please lets not forget our recent history. Hitler, a well known Catholic killed over 6 Million Jews. Catholics and Protestants have been throwing bombs at each other for 100 years now, in Northern Ireland.

For those who are talking about division of the nation, note the Christian southern Sudan that was just given independence; ethnic wars in the last 2 weeks has lead to the death of over 1000 people.

I rest my case for now.

I am not happy with the way the lovers of Oyedepo are carrying on about his act of commission.
I think they should while trying to protect the GO feel for the little girl he slapped, cursed and humiliated in public. The Bible says you should wished for others what you wish for yourself. A Senior Pastor in that Church confessed to me that what the GO did is going to affect him for life because it was a great error of judgement unbecoming of a man of his caliber.

As for the question many of you are stating to the effect that he is a special being;( he also alluded to this by saying rather arrogantly: Do you no who i am?) he is not special. In my opinion, he is just any other person on the street, as he has demonstrated by his careless action. His effect on the humanity is 1000 less than Bill Gates, Albert Eisenstein, Awo, Zik,  Bello, Obasanjo and so on, talk less of Jesus  and other Prophets.

I am particularly unhappy with our fake human right campaigners such as Dr Obe, Falana, fasheun and so on who can not take this case to court . They are too afraid to do so because he is a man of God yet if a politician had done this, they would have raised dust and bring down the whole house.

I believe the OP and others who do not want this to happen to them, their children and anybody for that matter should continue to keep this on the front burner, so that the man will eventually be punished or learn his lesson, IJN. Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can someone help me with T B Joshua's predictions that have come to pass with evidence.

I am very sure that in due course, Israel and/or America will attack Iran for strategic reasons of making Israel the dominant power in the Middle East, after destroying Syria (already ongoing with funding and donating of weapons to the rebels). I don't think Russia and China will come to the defense of Iran Militarily for economic reasons, for now. The west did it in Libya.

I think what may trigger a World  war is if Israel attacks Iran and Iran is able to respond strongly enough for 7 days before US intervention. UK and Germany would also come to Israel's aid which may cause an initial clandestine intervention of China/Russia, leading to full bast involvement. It would be messy, just like Vietnam. China/Russia have strategic interest not to completely loose credibility in that region. China buys Iran's Oil and Gas massively and Russia is using Iran to negotiate with the west and have huge investment. Iran is made up of over 80 million people with yearly University enrollment in hundreds of thousands. Unlike what we see on CNN and BBC, Iran is strong in Science and Technology and capable of causing serious problems for Israel in a war situation.

The west uses and dumps leaders of other nations and destroys anyone/nation that refuses to be used by them. Example: Manuel Noriega of Panama.

This looks logical to me.

Until i hear from the HOD, i will not blame the man at all especially if he is HOD of EEE. All Electrical Engineering departments in all Nigerian Universities, both Private and Government, are short-staffed. In fact 50% of them do not have Lecturers of the level of Professor in their department.

The guy should be careful. It is not fair.

Anyway, i congratulate him for his achievement. I am proud of him.

The Prophet of Allah said you can correct a bad in the society and get rewarded in three ways
-Taking action in your mind (Doing nothing physical)
- Condemning the act with your mouth
-Taking action to correct what is bad or going bad.

He ended it with the exaltation that taking action gets the most reward if you are not encumbered.

May God reward you abundantly! As for you feeling; take it easy on yourself as you have done all you need to do as a human being. It is one of those things in life.

Roland 17, Thanks for your submission. Its good to read a refreshingly different Christian.

I think my Christian brothers are too full of themselves that they consider others as inferiors. How about Adeboye donating his daughter to a Muslim happily to show he is tolerant and not a fanatic!

I'm sure he would accuse the daughter of being possessed by demonic forces! Its not fair to give a drug you reject to other person(s)

That union is useless. The lady can get all she wants in a man in uncountable Muslim men.

My friend, thank you for reading through my thought and replying in details as you have done. I think you actually twisted your facts, for example on Jos. Truth is constant.
You see, the beauty of debate is that we may not agree, but we would have an opportunity to put across one another's opinion. Abusing Yuguda would not evaporate the problem. lets examine his opinion; period. What if you are wrong?

The import of my submission is that we should solve the real cause of the problems we have and stop blaming Islam and/or resort to stereotype- it is dangerous! Two examples would do: While i was writing the first submission i had a middle aged woman shouting that Calabar people are bad; i rushed out quickly to say: "A man/woman is bad/good not because of his religion or race." I asked one of my Christian girls to listen to the song i was listening to which she was then complaining about, then repeat the song; she refused, because she cannot ask Allah for anything!

My friends, try to understand that we can never see things the same way. God knows why he did not make all of us Christians, whose ancient and recent history of killings are legendary such as in Rewanda and Iraq/Afghanistan. God knows why he has allowed 1.5 Billion Muslims to be different.

The wave of hatred towards Muslims is getting dangerous and i call on all well meaning Nigerians to let us find a solution for this problem instead of name calling. I know what Europeans did to the Jews for decades leading to the pogrom that lead the Hitler (A staunch Christian) to annihilate 6 million jews. I pray this would not happen to Muslims. Amin.

Dear Friends,
May i plead with you all to reflect deeply on what Yuguda said by dropping our sentiment for a moment?
Please! The solution to headache is not decapitation.

Jos crises has persisted because we have insisted on treating Malaria as Cholera. The problem in Jos for example is about Indigenous ownership of land. It is a dangerous problem that would soon rear its head in many other parts of Nigeria. Religion is not the problem as CAN President would want us to believe.

Please be patient and try to understand that Islam is not the problem as many of you would be having in your consciousness.

I have stated it in the past that the problem in Nigeria is ethnic induced violence-extremism associated with poverty of idea and personal resources.
Our leadership, North/South, Muslim/Christian, are all wicked and are ruling us to satisfy their personal greed. For example, all the Governors claimed that they could not pay the N18,000 minimum wage, yet they are not complaining of the high amount they are paying all the Politicians. I have seen a contract of N250 Million where the contractor require less than N50 Million to execute, awarded by one of the poorest state in Nigeria. The man is a Political jobber of the Governor.

The actions of Niger Deltan Militants was equally as unreasonable, but was explained by Governors of the regions. When Nigeria removed part of the problem, we now have some qualified peace.

Let us reflect on his comments. Balarabe Musa said the same thing in an interview in Guardian in August.

SAWW.
Completion of the Quran is said to be enjoined during the Ramadan. An Ustaz said even the reading of the English version is good.

My question to learned friends; can listening to MP3/CD/Cassette with English translation amount to the same thing?

May Allah accept our supplications and Efforts as a mark of worship.

OP, you are correct. May God bless you.

When the bombing started BBC, VOA, DF and CNN reported it as Muslim terrorist attack without evidence. The shooting that followed days after was reported as a deranged person's attack. His Christian extremist background was mentioned in passing, much later. His hatred for Muslims is never emphasized.  He has killed 93 so far; while many are still missing according to BBC this evening.

Please let us call a spade by its name; Just like Bush (who is responsible for killing of over 1million Iraqis), this guy is a Christianist. He is a Terrorist.  Since they recently coined Islamist, let them use Christianist appropriately.

Let the western media (That have been shown to be unprofessional and extremely corrupt, as revealed in the Mudoch case) purge itself of double standards.

A terrorist is a Terrorist, no matter his religious or ethnic make up.

In my opinion, Love is an expression of mutually (exclusively) determined wish list, encouraged by ephemeral physical appearance; this state of mutual indebtedness is sustained by strong will and congruent moral/cultural believes of the partners.

Love is affection, which is natural between two people Parents/Children, Boss/Subordinate and Man/Woman.

In spite of my definition,  i believe love exist, but a lot of external forces may affect enjoyment of it by both parties. Money for example is a great factor.

Dear compatriots,
Lets clear some very important misinformation on this thread:

1. Professor Soludo was the Governor of CBN who gave ISLAMIC BANKING LICENCE to Jaiz International Bank not Sanusi.

2. Associating Islam as violent is TERRORISM and ISLAMOPHOBIC; and so, dangerous. This actually lead to the pogrom on JEWS in EUROPE in the first halve of this year.

3. If you insist on associating Islam with Violence, then based on available facts, Christianity (The Religion of Paul) is the most violent religion known to man from its inception. In fact Christians have been responsible for killing more people of the world in the last 50 years than Muslims in multiple of hundreds. If you are in doubt, consider REWANDA (N1million), Iraq (1million) and Afghanistan/Pakistan (Over 100,000). Bush, a strong Christian, was quoted several times that he had Godly/divine task of eliminating Evil before lying to kill people in Iraq.

4. I believe this world is big enough for us to respect one another and live peacefully without little prejudice. Hatred and Prejudice breeds suspicion and bad blood. Live and Lets live!

5. Lets debate ISLAMIC BANKING ON ITS ON MERIT.

6. Whether we like Islam or not, it would outlive all of us.