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Anybody in his or her right senses who is believing that fallacy that if Trump had been in office the situation would have been different should shut up

porka:
Does it mean everything you read from the Guardian is credible? Is that your definition of credibility? That's classic naivete, my friend.

Plus how did they report it? Was it a news item or an opinion? Do you understand that there are various sections of a newspaper? Do you also understand that the media have agenda?

The Guardian also reported that Sadam Hussain had weapons of mass destruction then, how did it pan out? That is the reason you should develop some other skills like critical thinking after you have learned how to read and write. Otherwise you become vulnerable, and they will continue to mess with your mind.

Are you denying that Trump did not believe his intelligence agencies picked Russia over NATO allies yes or no?
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porka:
What you are saying is that Trump committed Treason. And everything you rely on for that is because "it is all over the news". Why then was he impeached for something not remotely connected to that? Do you know what it means to side with foreign country against American intelligence?

Listen, "all over the news" is not synonymous with credibility. Try and understand these things, my friend.

Is there anyway one can talk about Donald Trump’s presidency without mentioning China, which undoubtedly, was the focal point of his foreign policy? Or is it because it is not part of the indoctrination agenda of the leftist news media, which you readily gulp down?

Imagine what would have been the leftist media's reactions if it was Russia that was implicated in the coronavirus pandemic.

And you are the one with a credible information.The Guradian that reported the news years ago is not credible please don't bore me I have better things t do with my time

blacknoir:
Ukraine doesn't have nukes,it has a law against having nukes. Unless u are anticipating when NATO or the US will join

They foolishly surrendered their nukes to Russia in 1994

bluefilm:
From COVID SCAMdemic to Russia-Ukraine face off...

These globalists will never let the world rest

You are not okay just keep quiet you are not smart at all.
Everything must not be a conspiracy.

TheKing4040:
He was not, I recognize and know sarcasm when I see one.. Thanks

Yes he was, go and read his comments he has always been against Russia he said that to highlight what some nairalanders have been saying about Russia and the west believe me he was being sarcastic you can read his comments

RedEnergy:
This is a war America CANNOT afford, literally. Their hasty withdrawal from Afghanistan due to taliban full takeover and without any military response has shown that they don't have the money or morale to fight another prolonged war. Russia is very fresh, very prepared, very armed. They will take over those breakaway regions and nothing will happen. The West are to be blamed for this. You can't gang up in the name of NATO to surround a country like Russia with WMDs and expect they will just lie down and do nothing. Russia is not an enemy. The Democrats are war hawks that love to profit from wars and they will push America to a war that will eventually destroy their empire like the Roman Empire. The US army is stretched as it is policing the world.

It is actually Republicans that are warhawks go and read a book

TheKing4040:
Why are you so dumb.. With everything starring you in the face you still not get sense, how is this propaganda now, Russia is already in Ukraine and you call this propaganda..mugu like you voted buhari and still see nothing wrong with the suffering everywhere.. I wonder how Nigeria go better with apes and dullards like you

He was being sarcastic

porka:
How did he side with Russia over American intelligence agencies? Even the most audacious leftwing operative would find this assertion outlandish.

Your postulation has no basis in fact and simple logic. Russia simply did not make any trouble with Ukraine until Trump left. The two successful invasions of Ukraine by Vladimir Putin have happened under some sissy leftwing leaders (one under Obama and the latest under Biden). So how could they have annexed the whole of Ukraine if he was there.

Trump just didn't consider Russia as important in his foreign policy as much as China. Like any other sane human being would do to a nuclear armed country with a determined leader with an extreme will and bloated ego like Putin, Donald Trump felt if you pay less attention to Russia, your capacity to do battle with the more important China would be enhanced.

China was the more wealthier and determined to upstage the USA, and has been doing so for decades. China was the one that he considered an existential threat. USSR was already decapitated. Putin's attempt to resuscitate it has more chance to fail than succeed. What purpose would it serve to be urging Ukraine to join NATO?

China was the bigger threat to the US economy than Russia. They were the ones manipulating their currency and trying to weaken the dollar (arguably the single most important American influence on the world economy). They are directly or indirectly a threat to the American middle class jobs and so on.

Stop saying balderdash and go and get informed imagine asking me how he sided with Russia over American intelligence when it is all over the news nobody is asking you about China.

Republicans keep losing at the congressional redistricting level

They will not gerrymander their way to any house majority this time around.

Just came to drop by and ask what Greg Abbott is doing to Texans from the trans kids to the power grid stuff.

Also to highlight the fact that the wife of a supreme court justice participated in an insurrection and uses her husband's position for money.

Modern day GQP

joyandfaith:
During Donald Trump president, leaders of NK, China and Iran could not work against US interest. They were in either panic or neutral mode. Since Biden came on board, leaders of those countries have been aggressive against US interests

Don't tell me you believe this

Read what you typed slowly and ask yourself if you know what you are talking about?

Achibyke:
The whole world miss Trump

Only you, the world is glad that Trump is out

sanpipita:
Lol they are neck deep into the strong man syndrome, Trump they say that will confront Putin is calling Putin genius

Trump that released a statement yesterday hailing Putin.
How low Republicans have sunk they are siding with the enemy over the president of the united states because they want Biden to fail.

joyandfaith:
He was a clown but Russia did not interfere with America interest during Trump presidency. Other countries that would look at US in the eyes are NK, Iran and China.

Lol, Russia hacked American space under his presidency, he sided with Russia over his intelligence agencies you don't know what you are saying they did not fear him they saw his opposition to US allies as a good thing and wanted him to remain in power so that they weaken western democracy.
Same US president that was hailing the North Korean leader when he saw him what does that tell you?

Nairalanders are clueless and very clueless when it comes to world politics imagine saying that Obama was the worse president and thinking Trump was better lol even most of the American populace don't even think so.

Obama is busy making money from books, public speeches and all what exactly is Trump doing post White House if not running from criminal and civil prosecutions.

joyandfaith:
Crimea was annexed by Russia during Obama presidency. Biden allowed Russia to invade Eastern Ukraine and 2 regions declared independence. Biden was Obama VP.
Being presidential is not about look, it is more of being unpredictable. Trump was unpredictable. He was a mad dog as US president. He was able to avoid unnecessary confrontation in the world.

Trump was Russia's puppet who sided with Russia over American intelligence agencies you lots should stop hyping Trump he was clueless and if he were in power Russia would have already annexed the whole of Ukraine because he was doing Putin's job for him who in his right senses praises a dictator and you don't think the man has something on him.
Trump was a clown who was rightly removed from office

Kabongo1:
Russia had an agreement with NATO on eastwards expansion but that has been totally disregarded and the West wants to set up shop on the borders of Russia. No Russian leader will accept it.
Funny enough, they now make it look like Russia is the aggressor.
The West will also feel the repercussions of any action they take against Russia. Hopefully they have plans of making up the short fall in gas and other energy resources

But Russia abandoned their own side of the agreement when they annexed Crimea in 2014.
Russia also abandoned the Minsk agreement and another agreement that I cannot remember now if Russia has not kept to its side of the agreement even after Ukraine gave it its nuclear arsenal why then should NATO?
Don't you realise that it is because of this bully tactics and annexation of crimea in 2014 that is making Ukraine seek for protection by wanting to join NATO since Russia is refusing to keep to their own side of the agreement?

Magnoliaa this your question dey make me think hard



I have no idea of what I want to say but I agree with Bratislava.

LadiIshola:
[s]Just sh*t up and rest abeg....Russia is fighting for her survival, you cant blame a man for defending himself whichever way he wishes to when someone brings war to his doorstep. You're just a western/American apologist. Rest abeg[/s]

You are a clown and stop talking nonsense who is threatening Russia's survival was that what Putin told you did Putin mention that in his speech yesterday common get out

Newboss:
Are you even listening to yourself?

Russia was invited by those breakaway regions. It's a very simple thing. All of the west does the same thing.

It has nothing to do with dictatorship. It's the choice of the leaders of that region.

That is dictatorship according the referendum to leave the soviet in the 90's they overwhelmingly voted to leave the soviet union and you except me to believe Putin that they overwhelmingly want to be a part of Russia now? You also think that Putin annexing a part of another nations territory is not a violation of international law and that he has no intention of stopping with those regions and will annex more in due time say something else abeg

Cptflint:
[s]You are just a useless fool. I have been reading all the trash you are spooning, Russia is right and just in the decision to protect the people of donbas. As of today peace have returned to donbas. Russia to the moon. Go fuvk yourself. Pathetic slave.
Ukrainian puppet government of LGBT USA is doomed to fail. Let them join NATO and understand what it means to act decisively by Russia in the protection of it's national security[/s].

Keep quiet you clown.You can't be smart enough to believe this but after all you don't even sound intelligent anyway.

Ogajohnbull:
You are just ignorant with myopic and bias opinion. All your statements are sandwiched with insults and you are complaining of not wanting to be insulted... Abeg, go fry beans and hug transformer.

You are the ignorant one with a myopic and bias opinion go and fry beans and hug transformer.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Cox some NATO members refused to fund the alliance. Trump challanged to pay up or else US will withrdaw her membership. WHO and her president were dancing to the Chinese tunes. According to Trump, ukraine & russia is not a direct threat to US. Trump targeted china instead.

He refused to fund Ukraine because he wanted information on Joe Biden and this was a violation that led to his first impeachment.

Everything you have said only sums up my argument that he went against allies. Trump was Putin's puppet and did Putin's job for him when he was going after NATO instead of Russia

BritishNaija:
I'm Very pained I missed this thread from the beginning, however, i'm taking solace due to the finishing replies you are giving op and is ilks back to back with facts.
Op was very lucky I missed the thread.

Lol and thank you.

Bestbeelieve:
You right. anyone believing he is normal is deceiving himself. putin is a lunatic and is pained about the breakup of the ussr. his days are numbered. but you know what?he is just a coward like all other dictators. create chaos and escape. watch closely his body language ( shaky legs, uneasiness)

You are right.

vibre:
But it's not a threat to world peace when the US invades or attacks other countries right? Is there any country that has invaded or attacked more independent nations than the US has done?

Can you tell the country presently that America is invading?do you also care to give reasons for the American interventionist/invasion mentality of the past and if exactly the reasons were valid?

After that try to validate the reason for Russia to invade Ukrain if that makes any sense to you, you can always call out the west without having to take sides with Russia

ahmg001:
Yes you are right.he is deeply sad about the collapse of soviet and has consistently blamed the west for it. Ukraine has deep cultural and social ties with Mother Russia.

Gbam

oluwaahmed:
[s]You are not intellectually sound enough to be engaged in this discussion. You are nothing but a dotted line in statistics of things for the west hence your opinion is as thin as air. Its because of this fact I neither hate the west nor love the east. However it must be stated that the west continue to plunder Africa by installing neocolonialist in power to help loot our resources?
Do you know that according to Transparency International, £1.3tn is the amount of corrupt funds currently stashed in the UK?
Do you also know that 7 French speaking west African states of Togo, Mali, Niger, Chad, Burkinafaso, Ivorycoast, Senegal, Guinea-Bissau do not have their own currency and individual central Bank? Their currency is CFA Franc(its even in the name for fúcks sake) and it's regional central Bank BCEAO stores their foreign reserves in  Banque de France? (So Y dafuq do you have a regional Central Bank that cannot store the member nations external reserves) are they truly independent if their foreign reserves are being stored in France? Do you know the mind blowing part? Immediately those countries came together in 2020 to announce their departure from CFA Franc to their own currency named ECO & removal of their external reserves from France central Bank to their own regional bank the next thing that happened is Coup d'etat. This is the reason for the many coups in francophone west African nations. Do you also know that Belgium killed 2 million Congolese just to mine rubber? Till this day Belgium and France take rubber from Congo & DRC in the name of Michelin & Continental tyres . How is Congo & DRC faring? Russia is not your problem[/s]

Please keep quiet and stop blaming the west for the woes of Africa if you were intellectually sound you would know that this is not the thread to be talking about the so-called atrocities of the west when there is an issue at hand.

Keep quiet and get lost better tell your continent to use their brains and stop blaming the west for everything.

revolt:
I'm curious to understand why you think the west should have Supreme influence with no one to challenge them ?

Did I tell you so? And why should I support Russia and China over the west anyway,what have they done for humanity in this modern time that I should pick them over the west?

pegix:
Baby girl calm down and try to listen

No soviet country is coming back

Putin doesn't think so

obailala:
Funny how western media propaganda has moulded the minds of most people to view the US and its allies as 'saints and saviours' whilst viewing Russia as villains. What is Russia doing today that isnt done daily by the US? Meanwhile the so called 'soveriegn' territory Russia is invading today, I thought those places were former Soviet territories which the US helped to breakaway not too long ago?

Oh please I an tired of hearing this crap I am an adult with a brain and I can decide for myself tell me how Russia in this context are the good guys and the West are the bad ones I will wait sinceyou are not the one who is blinded by propaganda