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dermmy:
What's wrong with Communism and Socialism as modes of production?

You think Communism/Socialism has connection with dictatorship? As if Capitalism is not evil. I know you don't have enough info that's why you reason this way.

You haven't read that democratic Communist regimes have existed in the past but they were truncated by the instrumentality of the America's CIA because uncle SAM saw them as threat to it own Capitalist sphere of influence.

Have you read about Salvadore Allende the democratically elected Communist president of Chile? That was toppled by the CIA and replaced with a ruthless Capitalist dictator known as Augusto Rusto Pinochet? CIA helped Pinochet to surpress dissent and he killed hundreds of thousands in that country.

What of Jacobo Arbenz of Guatemala. He was a true democrat but was toppled by CIA and replaced with a ruthless Capitalist dictator. That CIA coup in Guatemala led to a chain of events that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives in that country.

Those were capitalist regimes that U.S. installed so please what is wrong with Communism? As if capitalism has not had its own share of dictatorship and evil.

Fidel Castro started well in Cuba he was a free and nice gentleman but when U.S. started invading Cuba and using Cubans to plot assasinations against his life he had to change his ways and became dictatorial so as to instill fear into the people even at that the U.S. did not stop CIA tried his life over 600 times and failed.

During the cold war years those communist countries were on their own jejely while U.S. was using CIA to forment trouble in them. Unseating the weak ones who choosed to be democratic.

Interesting insight here.
I have always stated that the west is not a saint and I have always called out their BS especially when they turn their eyes to how the Palestinians are being treated or the fact that they think they get to decide the nations that can get nuclear weapons.We are talking about Russia today you can call out both without always taking sides.

That being said, I support government regulation to an extent which could be argued to be socialism if you use the American progressives context and how conservatives call them socialist and all that but I also believe in capitalism too with government regulation and the need for wealth billionaires to pay their fair share of taxes and be highly taxed as well.

I prefer democracy to communism and socialism I was not talking about their modes of production or economies per say I kinda like Karl Marx's theories but on the political side I do not like how they play their politics which I was calling out and yes capitalism/socialism is not always about dictatorships but in today's world many of their leaders are while some or if not majority of the people have a disapproval of the system most dictatorships of today is happening in socialist or communist countries

MangekyoAlt:
To the bolder. You sound just like those propagandists on CNN. do you have any evidence to back the trash you're spitting right now?
Putin said [url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Ox99AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA225&lpg=PA225&dq=He+who+does+not+regret+the+break-up+of+the+Soviet+Union+has+no+heart;+he+who+wants+to+revive+it+in+its+previous+form+has+no+head&source=bl&ots=6M_mZewx8a&sig=ACfU3U2fa33xb33ENHHb-ecdn0asTkMWXA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwir7pmigIX2AhWHdt8KHfcKAKIQ6AF6BAgxEAM#v=onepage&q=He%20who%20does%20not%20regret%20the%20break-up%20of%20the%20Soviet%20Union%20has%20no%20heart%3B%20he%20who%20wants%20to%20revive%20it%20in%20its%20previous%20form%20has%20no%20head&f=false] “He who does not regret the break-up of the Soviet Union has no heart; he who wants to revive it in its previous form has no head.”
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Now shut the fűck up and sit your ass down, pendejo

The next time you insult me I will report you.
It seems you have a problem with the media and CNN better fix it up you are the propagandist here trying to defend a dictator.

If you are smart give me cogent reasons why Putin thinks he is right to want to take over the sovereignty of Ukraine and former USSR states in 2022


You that is the propagandist in chief think that you are alright because everything is always a conspiracy to your type.

You are the one talking trash.

useni1:
I am already in China saluting the portrait of chairman Mao Zedong

Good you belong there

edmaraja:
Yeah, diplomacy that had the US running out of afghanistan with tails between their legs and abandoning all their allies and even weaponry to the mercy of the taliban

Are you sure you are okay, who made plans for the Afghanistan withdrawal was it not your beloved Trump?who freed Taliban terrorist and met with their leaders and prepared an escape plan behind the Afghani government was it not your beloved Trump who started the withdrawal of troops and majority of Americans supported it?

diplomacy that has just lost Ukraine two territories, diplomacy that has seen Iran and North korea building up weapons of mass destruction unchecked, yeah tell me about diplomacy

Stop embarrassing yourself please you talked about Afghanistan and I wonder how that even concerned diplomacy, Americans are tired of war and the interventionist mentality hence why the diplomatic approach you are just mixing things up and your confusion is glaring also I personally believe that they should own nuclear weapons if they want to but using it to threaten the existence of sovereign nations is a no.
If you know about the JCPOA(Iran nuclear deal) it was foolish for Trump to have pulled out instead of blaming Biden blame Trump.

olugabbie:
Reviving the USSR is impossible. The baltic states are now part of NATO. If Putin tries to take back the Baltic states which are part now part of NATO, might lead to a world war. Putin is not stupid. Engage the West in a nuclear war, for what exactly?

Putin does not gamble.

It seems Putin is stupid judging by what he has said, you can go back and watch the video it is on Youtube I get a sense that you idolise the man though.

Why are you hyping Putin?

Appleyard:
Putin dreams about nothing! You're just regurgating typical mainstream media crappy narrative. The Soviet Union is gone and all in Russia admits that, but it's only in the delusional heads of crazy mainstream western media covens is Putin dreaming of bringing back the Soviet Union

Yes it was the media that recognise luhansk and Donetsk as independent states on behalf of Putin. Also it was the media that told Putin to talk about the soviet union and how he faults the independence of soviet states today it was all propaganda what I listened and saw with my very eyes. Wanting to think freely does not give one the right to always be ignorant and stupid everything is not always about propaganda

Putin is a dictator, really? How convenient for you to say....Then what should we call guys like Trudeau and Let's Go Brandon that forces vaccine mandate on people who don't want it? Democrats I guess?

Has Justin Trudeau killed and poisoned his political rivals and dissenters who go against him, has Trudeau invaded another nation to declare war, has he annexed any territory or taken over elections?it seems you are confused and you do not know what you are talking about, If you were intelligent you would know that before invoking the emergencies act Trudeau pleaded with the Truckers who are not even truckers to leave and that they were affecting the supplying chain, threatening acts of violence and affecting the economy.If you were intelligent you would know that in many democracies the constitution provides for emergency powers which he used to restore order where necessary how can you call him a dictator for following what is provided in his country's constitution?

Get sense

seunny4lif:
You said Russia is the problem.
Now tell that to those countries, your almighty Democracy country have destroyed.
Your democracy countries dropped more bombs in Vietnam than in WW.

What was the reason for the bombing?
I am sure that in your brain Stalin and Lenin were also saints and better than the west

Also, are we talking about the transgressions of the west it is okay to call the BS of the west and also calling out the BS of Putin you must not take sides because currently in 2022 one side is threatening peace.
If you knew a thing or two you would know that in many democracies alliances are important.
I am sure that Russia had no part to play in Syria and Afghanistan since they are the saints here.

You have a problem fix it nobody is exonerating the sins of the west but the east is no better neither is it a saint that you must take sides with.

useni1:
all propaganda. Communism is the last hope for humanity. May communism never be denied us

It is only your last hope don't mistake free thought for ignorance.

Even the word propaganda was first used by the Soviets you can head to China but don't take the rest of the world with you.

edmaraja:
And what will the US and their allies do to russia? Does biden have any balls? China just imposed new sanctions on the US over Taiwan and the spineless Biden is yet to respond, is it Putin that he will challenge? North korea has also continued with it's missile programs and nothing from biden. They all know that there's a clueless coward in the white house and they are all taking advantage of it to advance their causes. Mark my words, The US will do nothing even if Putin invades Ukraine apart from blowing hot air and imposing infective sanctions that will have no serious effect on Russia

Please keep quiet since you don't know how diplomacy and foreign politics work first of all who and start a class on world politics.

You talk like as if Trump was any better when in fact he was a puppet being friends with dictators and abandoning allies.

I am not marking your word because it is irrelevant to the discussion

olugabbie:
NATO/US are handicap as it stands. He has not invaded. They can't sanction Russia, because if they do. Russia will have nothing to loss if she invades eventually. They also can not use military means, because the situation can quickly change from Russia-Ukraine crisis to world war.

Russia is not interested in reviving the USSR. USSR is gone. All Putin wants is respect. If NATO halts it's expansion Russia be automatically be at ease. The fear of being alone is what Russia is afraid. Imagine if all the countries in eastern Europe join NATO.

NATO is a military alliance. It was created to counter USSR. Now there is no more USSR. Russia is not as powerful as the USSR. Why the continuous expansion? Which threat is NATO trying to counter? The enemy of a country on it's door step is a serious security concern.

Declaring Luhansk and Donetsk a territory under Ukraine is already an invasion don't be naive.
It is going to be a world war crisis because he will go after other USSR former territories he needs to be stopped now.If the west sanctions Russian oligarchs that use money for war and not her economy Russia will lose. The US/NATO are not handicapped they just don't want to be interventionist anymore so they are trying to be diplomatic.


Please stop talking out of point Putin wants the USSR stop sympathising with the cause of a dictator if Putin wants respect he should respect the sovereignty of Ukraine and embrace the fact that the USSR is dead.

My goodness did you see NATO force former states of the USSR to join or they went on their own will, majority of Ukrainians want NATO and the fact that Putin is still nostalgic about the USSR is enough proof of that have you asked yourself why former states of the USSR are interested in joining the west why not ask yourself that since you think Russia is so good that they are running away from it or they should swallow their will because of one man called Putin.
Give me a break

seunny4lif:
Democracy like the one, you have in Nigeria right now?

I am sure you would have preferred communism and socialism then , why not move to those countries instead since they are better than democracy?

seunny4lif:
You know nothing
You want me to believe Russia is the problem right?
Tell that to those countries the USA have destroyed.

You are just a clown.Stick to the issue at hand if you so much love Russia go there the west and it's allies are not the ones threatening the peace of the world so explain to me how Putin drumming the beats of war is the fault of the west?

olugabbie:
I don't think so. The Soviet Union is gone forever. The baltic state are now part of NATO. What Puttin wants is balance of power in Europe. If NATO continue to expand. The Russian influence in the eartern Europe and Europe at large will disintegrate.

Go and listen to Putin's speech.
Stop sympathising with dictator Putin, Ukraine is an independent state to decide what it wants Putin is loathing why the USSR broke and does not believe in their rights to independence it is not about NATO he wants the soviet union.

If Russia was so good and kept to the part of their agreement former USSR states will not want to align with the west or NATO.

Saifullah01:
Trust me this conflict is not about the Ukraine joining NATO. The Americans know it. The Russians know it. And if you know, you know.

Gbam.
It is bigger than that.

Appleyard:
You sound too hysterical! The Soviet Union is long dead and gone, and is never coming back. Stick with that.

Well I am not Putin listen to his speech he dreams about it everyday and in his head he sees that as a possibility.

And a dictator will go to any lengths to achieve that.

seunny4lif:
Tell me another story

I am not into your silly propaganda if you so much love Russia or do not value democracy you can be on your next flight to Russia and worship the Stalins and Lenins of this world.

useni1:
and communist USSR will come back..nothing paper tiger America and NATO can do about it

If only you could take out time to read on the USSR or watch videos on YouTube you would not be praying and hoping for such I am very sure that you would support Nazi Germany coming back right?

You people should use your head for once.

seunny4lif:
Putin was right because Ukraine got many free land from Russia after Ukraine joined USSR.
Now, Russia want those lands back.
Turkey took part of Cyprus and all NATO did was make noises.
Israel took part of Syria

Putin will not stop at Ukraine you lots should stop deceiving yourselves.

He does not believe that former states of the USSR have a right to exist independently of Russia this is not okay and this is a threat to world peace.

olugabbie:
In few hours from now, Russia will likely send lightly armed Russian troops into the Donbas. Something similar to the little green men, that were sent to Crimea.

One thing people don't know about Puttin is how smart he is. He does not gamble. He knew very well that he will get what he want. He is a master planner. Every event that is unfolding now has been carefully and well planned.

Now it is clear that Ukraine will never join NATO.

He is not smart you people should wake up it was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back and if he gets Ukraine he is coming for other former states of the USSR.

If the US and its allies don't respond swiftly and stop deceiving themselves about diplomacy Putin is going to invade sovereign nations because he does not believe in their right to exist that is dictatorship nobody should laud this

Hanibbal:
As in that Putin knows the game well well. He is very smart. Always outsmarting the West. He used the threat of invasion to distract them meanwhile those break away regions is what he had plans for. Sai Putin

It is not in anyway funny he will invade Ukraine he annexed Crimea and wants to do something similar here if he gets his way other former USSR states will form part of his territory very soon.

Did you listen to his speech?this is a dictator talking.

It was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back.

Slayar:
Just steer clear off me. I've made my point,if you like take it or leave it.

You quoted me first you made no point and I won't take it.
Bye

Slayar:
[s]Your mother obviously didn't train you well. You're ignorant, arrogant and rude at same time. I bet you are not under any man currently .

I trashed everything you spilled but only decided to stop arguing with you when you left the argument and resorted to insults[/s].

Keep quiet if you were not also ignorant, arrogant and rude you would not be mentioning my mom.

And I am with a man and not under a man you can bet that right because I can never be under a man but rather I am partnered with a man you didn't trash anything I exposed your ignorance and shortsightedness on issues because you know little or nothing about what you're talking about.

bepositive11:
Thank you. All beating does is break children down psychologically. It should be banned. It's abuse not discipline

Loud it

Slayar:
If you want to argue, dish out your points ,I am not here to insult .I kept reading your posts but I didn't see anything other than insults. don't have time for that.

@bold, you have a comprehension problem don't hide under that.

Slayar:
I didn't read the bullshit you typed.From the very first line I see you lack manners and etiquette.

Lol why are you running are you tired already?Between the both of us who wrote BS ask yourself this question in sincerity and see if it is not you typical naira land male who loses an argument with a woman but wants to show his myopic chauvinism by talking about vague manners and etiquette

Somebody who is obsessed with people's personal lives is talking about manners and etiquette and wants to impose his views on others while condemning what he does not understand lol irony is truly dead.

Remain pained.

Slayar:
Nope,most of your liberal countries have some of the lowest ages of consent anywhere in the world and nope its not with their mates. It means they can consent to sex with whomever.

Proof of this with relevant laws, the context of such laws and how liberalism played a role if not keep shut and stop making it up

Liberalism has lost its way. What does it teach today other than promiscuity,man -hating, Sexual immorality,abortion, absurdities such as beastiality and homosexuality. In today's world liberalism has nothing good to offer.

Liberalism supports better access to health care, education, equal and improved pay and many other progressive policies however with your write up you are the definition of a clown, the Bible talked about promiscuity, abortions and what you mentioned up there and it did not start today also you are babbling rubbish and confirming my earlier stance that you have an intolerance problem obsessing with rights that are covered by personal liberty, bestiality does not concern liberalism stop being silly and making things up, how does man hating concern liberalism?

the promiscuity you are talking about did it not exist before liberalism came did some cultures not support women being prostitutes, concubines, sex before marriage to ascertain if a woman can bear children did all these not happen before liberalism are they not promiscuous acts?are you normal did homosexuality start today did ancient cultures not support homosexuality did it start today with liberalism or is it because liberals are against conversion therapy and see it as a form of abuse and champion their rights and tackle discrimination laws against them that you have a problem who made you moral police over the rights and liberties of others do you know how law works and that they must not be based on morality have you not heard of secularism?


As for abortions I am pro choice and I believe in a woman's right to choose if that offends you adopt every child you see on the street and don't subject them to abuse, you that cannot raise a child in love is against abortion irony is dead, what have you done to help women and address the issues that lead to abortion are you in support of birth control and maternal health these are policies liberals support to reduce abortions because they know that banning abortions does not stop abortions but rather puts women in danger and sometimes frees men of responsibility read more about abortion and the facts that abortion bans does not stop abortions but leads quacks to damage women's lives.If you want to police women's bodies adopt every homeless child and put in place laws to protect women even if you can it is her body her choice don't burden women with what they don't want why not advocate for male vasectomy since you are against abortions since men can impregnate multiple women in a month.

You are a very close minded person

If the world went full liberal ,trust me even you would be shocked the extent to which it leads.

Another baseless assumption if conservatism was so good majority of the world population would not be supporting liberalism in the first place.If conservatism was better there would not have been liberalism in the first place your opinion makes no sense but you have a right to it

Slayar:
You love to argue I see that. You're also uncouth in your arguement. I wouldn't expect anything less from a liberal .

What you fail to understand is that age of consent can easily be shifted as it is in so many western countries. E.g Germany . When the age of consent is shifted to 13 or 14,what will be your arguement then?

I tell you liberals have nothing to offer today other than pushing senseless laws and policies.

I am in the legal profession it is a specialty.When someone calls you out you think I am uncouth lol like I care?
The so called senseless laws and policies is what is giving you rights today and ruling the world today.You will just have to live with it.

You can keep crying but there is nothing you will do to change that most of those consent laws are with kids of related ages and not with adults over 18 which can be argued has nothing to do with liberalism if you are a well-read person you will even know that some persons argue that their religions see nothing wrong in underage marriages and that in those days the good old generation days you so much love women were marrying as young as 13 it took liberal policies and the age of enlightenment to fight that women are human beings with rights to education and opportunities to challenge early marriage.That is why you see movements like girls not brides etc.

Also you don't know anything about liberalism other than your obsession with the personal lives and choices of people which does not affect you and you are trying to impose that on others who don't fit into your narrative that is why you are obsessed with LGBTQ issues focussing on narrow things that concern personal liberty forgetting that liberalism is broader than that why don't you try to mind your businesss on issues that concern adult for a start, I cannot take you seriously if you think that liberals and progressives have nothing to offer or that they are senseless and that conservatives actually do if you think so then you are just a comic relief for saying that and embarrassing yourself better leave that hard rock you live under and come outside to the real world and look around you and see how liberalism and progressivism is changing the world and is being loved by the younger generation of today your hate for liberal ideals shows that you are just a hateful person resistant to change and new ideas,you are obsessed with the personal lives and decisions of others that is why you don't like liberalism and that is a scary trait because it breeds intolerance do better.

Slayar:
You can't be talking from both sides of your mouth. You were earlier equating kids with adults and now you're still claiming they need guidance ,what guidance

I never equated kids to adults I said that they are human beings with rights which they are or is your comprehension strength that low?they need guidance from adults and guidance on issues but ultimately when they mature they make decisions for themselves if this is hard for you to understand then I cannot help you.

You ask me not to equate Paedophilia with homosexuality. Why shouldn't I? Slowly homosexuals started arguing their case ,even getting some people in the academia to back their cause

Your equation of both is nothing short of being silly, because one is a relationship concerning two adults the other is one where adults violate and abuse children who cannot give consent.

Only a matter of time before pedophiles start arguing their case and start claiming they aren't hurting anyone.Liberals are weird people ,the foolishness of some people has no limits.Imaging someone who says they want to identify as a lizard.Or a Transgender man who wants to compete with women.

Lol, children with no developed sexual organs are being hurt and there is medical facts to actually back this up that is just wishful thinking in your part and it is not legal in almost every country, peadophilia is not the same thing as homosexuality so stop conflating the two you are just blabbing nonsense the LGBT are not hurting you however paedophilia is and no liberal supports that, liberals support policies that help children and not conservatives who mostly want to indoctrinate kids and use them as pawns

Slayar:
So according to you children can take responsibility for themselves? Have you forgotten there's a reason why you can't buy cigarettes, watch pornogrpahy, buy alcohol and other things except you get to 18

Don't misunderstand me children are human beings with rights and as parents or guardians it is expected of you to guide them while under your care till they get to a stage where they don't need it typically around 16 because then their opinions must have been formed it is not your duty to impose your beliefs on them.

Let me remind you humanity didn't get to this point with liberals. Back when humanity had rules ,men had distinct roles different from that of women,there was order. Men prevailed over beasts and every other danger that could have sent us all extinct

I see that you are conservative or traditional anyway rules are meant to be challenged and always subject to changes so welcome to the 21st century where personal liberty is prioritised and the status quo is not always right and it is not in society's place to decide for individuals the roles they should fit into let the individuals decide for themselves humanity still has rules it is just that you don't like the rules of today but you will just have to live with it.Men are not living with beast in today's society ao no need to prevail over that.

Now when everything is relatively at ease ,liberals and other activists come out fighting for equality,gay rights,paedophilia, beastiality and everything absurd you can think of.

Liberals have lost their way. I do not believe in their cause.

Raise your kids with "Love" and spoil them with it. In some years you'll be able to judge how far it got you.

When there is still discrimination you are talking about ease, lol you are against equality are you sure you are okay?If not for equality the white man will remain superior to youand you would not have basic rights,and why should gays not have rights are they not human beings did homosexuality atart today was it liberals who discovered it?Paedophilia and beastiality has nothing to do with liberalism try not to be a clown this your write up is very embarrassing.
Thankfully liberals are in the majority and people are embracing it everyday we don't need your support it will still continue to flourish because it is for the time that we are in.
So far so good raising kids with love has made them more empathetic and loving to they neighbour it is better that they are raised with love and compassion if that means them being spoiled then you are a terrible human being that needs to unlearn a lot and relearn things.If the good old days were so good for raising kids there would have been no need to adopt the love approach.I get the feeling that you are a man and yet we wonder why children get to love their mothers more when fathers or men like you think that loving kids and training them in compassion equal spoiling them you are the best example of this, how has raising children without love worked out for you and your generation be the judge of that ask yourself where that has gotten you and your know it all good -old generation?

TheMostComplex1:
You forgot to add that the matter should be reported to the police because the child was abused. This's an offence. Go to any NHRC & report

Rightly said unfortunately money fit buy the case for Nigeria a country that cannot protect women.

Slayar:
I'm not a novice to Sigmund Freud's Child psychology. I still stand on what I said that your genralization is baseless. You're stating that the so called method of parenting that a child can call 911 on their parents for a simple tap on the back or something... Or a society where a male child can decide they don't want to be male or female anymore as early as ten is the best model we should follow

You are so ignorant, my goodness a child has rights and should be treated like a human being so you are saying that because you birthed a child you can be privileged to abuse them and they should not report you right?what exactly are children to you?You are deflecting anyway the child is well within his/her rights do decide that for themselves in societies where that is legal,laws are not necessary moral.

Let me tell you something you do not know.The total number of people causing Nigeria ' s problem are not up to 1000 people. It is the failure and cowardice of others to stand up to them that has gotten us where we are not parenting

Every Nigerian is causing the problem of Nigeria, the system is rotten everywhere from the law enforcement who need to be bribed to carry out their duty, the health workers, civil servants e.t.c these people are more than 1000 why won't they be cowards when nobody cares about their next door neighbour as long as e nor dey affect me e nor concern me attitude they parrot.

Why is it that a lot of African parents send their kids back to Africa for "home training"? at some point when they discover they are on the verge of losing their kids to their society?

How many actually,have you asked yourself why they left the Africa with good home training in the first place?so kids having voices and rights means they are lost to society

Do not tell me that crime is just being reported due to social media,maybe you're 21 yrs old or less. I watched TV back when it was black and white ,I was mature at a point where listening to radio was cool. They reported cases back then ,there was Clifford orji (the cannibal) and acclaimed cases of men losing their penis; but never was it as rampant as this.Back then you could leave your kids with your neighbours ,can you do that now

It was not rampant because social media was not available then that is the truth if not for the internet you would not even be hearing about it in the first place to begin with to adjudge it as " rampant" thank God you admitted that men losing their joystick did not start today so ask yourself where the present generation learnt it from?they learnt it from adults like you the good-old days home training ambassadors, your generation taught them you are only seeing it as rampant today thanks to social media

Liberalism that is forcing bestiality, homosexuality and other weird ideology down our throats is same thing as democracy? You must be kidding. Today you are not allowed to think without offending at least one person . You're tagged misyogyst, racist,xenophobia, anti-Semitic, homophobic. They are good at tagging anything that goes against their own ideals.They do not allow freedom of thought. The very thing they claim they are promoting

Uncle, have you not heard of liberal democracy?majority of democracies around the world including Nigeria are practising liberal democracy that espouses the tenets of freedom, separation of church and state etc it is the same thing with democracy because the majority tenets of democracy is liberal, secularism came from liberalism for your information that is why it can be likened to democracy, liberalism is beyond your homophobia and no I am not kidding.The freedom of thought liberals don't support is hate racism, xenophobia, anti-semitism etc all stems from hate and why should a rational person have such a hateful and bitter thought process do you know how terrible those things are and how many people those hateful ideologies have harmed? I will advice that you extensively study liberalism anyone who hates liberalism are mostly disgruntled racist who do not like freedom of choice or liberty and think it is their duty to impose their thoughts on others.

To cap it all,liberalism isn't solely responsible for the height of USA's development today. You've forgotten there was a strong culture conservative culture even in the USA. Liberalism is only destroying what the conservatives built over time

Liberalism is what gave blacks in America equal rights, Liberalism is what gave women rights, Conservatives did not build anything they supported slavery and backed it up with the Bible and supported segregation,In the 1950's the two major parties in America had ideological changes the democrats of today were the republicans of old, while the republicans of today were the democrats of old when the dixiecrats who supported racism and segregation left the democratic party and became republican because the democratic party became center-left (liberal) and supported equal rights which brought about the 14th amendments and others supporting equal and civil right for blacks which are main tenets of liberalism.Conservativism does not build and it is incompatible with today's reality(the American version) that is why most young people identify as progressives or liberals.If by strong conservative culture you mean pro-gun ownership without regulation, disregard for science and public health, fight against environmental change and blatant racism you are not far from the truth that is why far right white nationalist are trying to take America into fascism and supported people like Trump