₦airaland Forum

Originalsly:
Your comments are like one who cram information ... and repeat it without understanding.... aka ... brainwashed. Does COVID-19 so called vaccines prevent people from getting infected ? If yes ... then it can end the pandemic. If no ... as is the case ... how will everyone being vaccinated end the pandemic? Let's hear your opinion.

Shut up

mediainc:
Go and teach your father zombie. The virus is not our problem

Stop embarrassing your father,zombie

Charisma01:
Sharap there!!!

Here in Abj, life is back to normal

Markets, buses, churches, schools all full. Which risk are we putting the others again.
Me and you wey don dey this earth for how many years na im wan put others at risk.
Or are u saying the millions who haven't taken it, we will all catch covid and give you wey don take the vaccine?

Get sense abeg

You should be the one shutting up, is Novak in Abuja who is asking you about Abuja and the life in Abuja is the topic about Abuja or covid19 in Abuja?

Just be quiet go and buy sense you clown.see the way you are embarrassing yourself asking silly questions.

justosee:
How does not taking that injection put others at risk? Is not like the so-called Covid vaccine does the work of a vaccine.

The work of a vaccine is subject to the type of disease it is not a cure but a vaccine so spot the difference.

Also because the virus is highly transmissible your refusal of taking the vaccine can put others at risk especially the immunocompromised in the society because it is a highly transmissible infection you can transfer it to others thereby putting them at risk.

Studies and stats earlier brought out have shown that the vaccines have reduced the risk of infection and severity associated with the virus.

mediainc:
So if the jab is so effective, why different variants and doses popping up...and why 99% of Nigerians and people of some nations have not been infected...leave healthy people alone, nose mask and adequate spacing is being enforced already.

Please be quiet and learn and stop making silly assumptions,don't you know that it is in the nature of viruses to always mutate and become resistant?
Where did you get the stats that 99% of Nigerians have not been infected do you exactly know anything about covid and in how many places is it being enforced.

Mind you, it is not about healthy people alone we have immunocompromised people who have preexisting underlying diseases who can be easily affected and could die so it is about protecting them and not just about you the healthy ones owe a duty of care to them.

Mintum:
can't you read that it was a journalist that asked him the question which he answered? You are talking as if he is the one that went out on his own to start talking about it. Even if he talks about it on his own, he is right. The behaviour of all these governments to force vaccines on people is nothing but dictatorship. Why should everybody be forced to take that vaccine when the vaccine is neither a prevention or a cure for covid? People that are vaccinated still contact it, people that are vaccinated still die from it so what's all this rubbish about making everyone take it by force?

Because it is a public health emergency and rights are always collective.

It isn't about you but the interest and well being of others the government must protect public safety and an ongoing pandemic is tantamount to public safety if enforcing vaccine mandates is a way of ridding ourselves of the pandemic then under emergency powers many democratic governments are well within their rights to enforce.

mediainc:
I support you, why force someone that is well and healthy to take a jab?

Because we have immunocompromised people among us who may be affected because of our unwillingness to take precautions it is not always about you but about the interest and well being of your next-door neighbour because our rights are all collective

WibusJaga:
No one should be forced to take that vaccine against his will. Why should the Vaccinated people feel threatened by the Unvaccinated?

As long as there is a public emergency which concerns the general public it is not about you but about everybody and so you don't get to have a choice that will put others at risk

Nobody cares.

There are more prodigies coming up.

GreyLaw:
You need a lot of personal research and education. Stop listening to nonsense from the media. The Omicron that came out it spread in areas where people were already fully vaccinated. The statistics are there in the open Web.

Why are governments wasting time? Hahahahah... since when did governments of this world want you to be free and be your best? Meehn... enjoy your vaccine and government. But you will find out within 10 years from today.

Nothing will happen in ten years to the unvaccinated if in 10 years we are still battling the pandemic there would be vaccine mandates.

CrestMan:
I applaud Novak for standing up for his belief. The Bible says "what shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and loose his soul.....
Blessed is he whose God is the Lord!

The tennis star didn't loose anything but rather gained more!

I guarantee you that this tournament will be a shadow of itself if Novak is not allowed to compete!

All hail King Novak!
#shallom

The tournament will go well and Australians don't need Djokovic there.

He should get lost.

GreyLaw:
You know most people are illiterate when it comes to covid vaccine. They don't even know what mRNA technology is. The guy who invented the mRNA tech used in the covid vaccine was banned by twitter about two weeks ago when he raised objections to mass vaccinations using that technology. He understands the dangers.

Many people here keep spewing rubbish not knowing what's happening. Many of the billionaires in the US refused to take the vaccine or give their family, including Elon Musk. What guarantees do you have that what politicians take on TV is Covid vaccine. Many are just ignorant.

Djokovic is wise and within his rights to refuse. But he cannot fight the Australian government in their country. He should leave. He has won the moral war.

I keep saying that those who are vaccinated should give it 10 years to understand what they took and the effects. And the boosters will not end. More bossters are coming. With each booster the recipient is closer to the goal.

Just a useless piece of experiment using humans.

Hi greylaw, remember me you said Biden was never going to be President how far na.
Whoever takes you seriously I feel sorry for that person, since you have an issue with Mrna vaccines mostly fueled by conspiracy theories, you can take the Astrazeneca or J&J shot since they were not developed by Mrna technology.
Or is that a problem too

His visa has been cancelled.

Good development

I said it.

This is a good development.

Novax djokovid should adhere to the rules he got what he deserved

Jeromejnr:
I mean, don't you think you sound silly trying to push a vaccine agenda on Nigerians where we can hardly even see covid deaths

The topic isn't in Nigeria and where is that being done in Nigeria?unless you wanna travel abroad which many countries require.

Also you don't even know how to argue and yet comprehend to even make a case

LMAO,thank God I confidently know how to argue, comprehend and win cases since it is in my line of discipline I will rather believe in myself than an absolute stranger who even doesn't know how to listen to experts, take advice or corrections as for your opinion I will pass thank you (If you don't get that phrase'I will pass' then I can't help you) I don't need it because I can comprehend and argue.

The case was why are they pushing mandates for a vaccine with 99% recovery rate and a weakened variant when the vaccine is giving side effects, still need boosters, and still have to follow the same rules as the unvaccinated?

When did this become the case and a part of the conversation?If that was your contention the fault is yours not mine,the recovery rate isn't always 99% it depends on the rate per country also if you didn't want to be mischievous this question you are asking you would have asked a virologist or an epidemiologist who is an expert for an answer instead of conspiracies and YouTube.
Also there is a requirement for Vaccinations because the pandemic isn't over and the health care workers and it's systems are over worked and sometimes understaffed when you get vaccinated you likely reduce risk of hospitalisations which helps the health system and doctors will focus their attention on other pressing issues.The vaccines just like other modern medicines are never 100% effective so there would always be side effects, paracetamols and other medicines have a lot of side effects we still take it and nobody has raised an eyebrow why then is a side effects of less than 1% associated with the vaccines an issue did the scientists tell you that the vaccines were 100% effective?They are advised to follow the same rules because the unvaccinated can still spread it to them and the vaccines give your body enough anti-bodies or immunity to fight the virus if a Vaccinated person gets it,it is because it is infectious and we all have a collective responsibility to fight the virus hence the need for Vaccinated persons to follow precautions because the unvaccinated is in their midst and spread it from one place to another there is need for booster shots because the virus is always mutating and will continue to build resistance to vaccines same way when malaria newly came it killed a lot of people but then the human body with the aid of medicine built enough resistance and the virus is no longer as deadly as it once was because we have gotten resistant to it.Study how viruses work the fear is that with the new variants that keep emerging the vaccines may no longer be effective because of the resistance the virus may build.

30% of a "negative" in science is a failure. So why mandate a negative for another negative? (I.e recovery rates, weakened variant)

Lol, which one is failure which one did you create if not for the vaccines the infection and death rates will be worse stop thinking with your butt.

So for many Nigerians who don't even feel as if covid even exists give us facts as to why we should take your vaccine and still live in fear?

You will only say someone died, yea but many vaccinated also die. And the current graphs shows way reduced rates of hospitalizations among the unvaccinated because of the weakened variants.

So don't deceive yourself with so called CNN experts and say you are following scientists..lol..which one Fauci and team that secretly funded the Wuhan labs research when told not to

That is Nigeria's problem,I am not talking about Nigeria and the people don't even care about their health and well being neither is the health care standard of the country is anything worth emulating they could even get it and recover and the cycle continues because thanks to earlier immunizations given to them which the oyibo people are not privileged to take they may be resistant to the virus to an extent compared to the whites.The thread is about Australia not Nigeria.

Please bring out the stats of reduced rates of hospitalisations among the unvaccinated I will love to see it because I haven't come across it.

"CNN experts" are you normal?do you know me or what I watch why are you so slow in your reasoning? Your last sentence is not even worth responding to because it is filled with conspiracies and trash and I am allergic to those.

Jeromejnr:
Your ignorance shows you don't know how to follow the experts. Because experts and scientists usually differ among themselves just as in this current case.

You just choose the side you want. Motivated by fear.

Also..since you mentioned a case, 30 percent is much don't you think.

Try harder convincing us with facts.

You are the ignorant one here,most times the experts here are the organisations and agencies that come up with a general guideline that is what I was referring to the examples are WHO,CDC,FDA amongst others across the world.

I didn't choose any side I want and I am definitely not scared nah I am not I have no reason to be and even if I get covid I am likely to survive.

It is not my duty to convince you of anything because I am not your doctor or an health expert I read and speak with my health experts on the virus and they enlighten me and I seek information from the right sources if you don't want to be convinced that is your problem after all many who were like you are 6ft below.
Anyway the picture you added said 30% which means the remaining 70% were the dumb unvaccinated so how does it even help your argument when I have been saying that many of them more likely to be hospitalised and more likely to die are the unvaccinated and according to this report it proves my point that majority (many) of them who died were truly the unvaccinated

mfm04622:
Nobody told you vaccines are 100% effective. Even if the vaccinated get COVID-19, there are evidence that shows there cases are a lot milder than those who are not vaccinated. Most of them don't require hospitalization and if they do, they stay fewer days.
So go and get vaccinated. You are alive and well today because your parents gave you all vaccines you were supposed to take when you were a baby

God bless you.

Jeromejnr:
Of course you wouldn't Check to save yourself from not liking what you would see.

Btw, You mean the many unvaccinated that died in 2020 that later was said even on "the economist" to have been as a result of other diseases

The unvaccinated I know and many of us know haven't been dying yet you guys keep forcing the vaccine when even people like AOC are still getting the disease. So what's the difference tell us?

They will only claim yen yen yen it reduces severity.

Gibberish as usual, I would rather follow the experts and scientist rather than you that loves to speculate on social media.
The virus is mutating and affecting the efficacy of the vaccines but then the health experts still have enough data to show that the vaccines work and help fight the severity of the virus and need for hospitalisations the current stats are that the unvaccinated are more hospitalised and dying more.
I have been vaccinated and never for once infected too so you claiming you haven't been vaccinated and hasn't died doesn't also disprove the fact that the unvaccinated are more at risk of infection and death.

AOC has been vaccinated and boosted she will live,unlike the many vaccine skeptics in America who didn't do the right thing and are already dead.One died last week in California after calling the vacccinated all sorts of names so many like her have passed on too

Wisdom is profitable to direct.

Jeromejnr:
Thays why you can search the doctors name. That's what the Internet is for madam.

Afterall, I wasn't the one being interviewed on the news.

Why should I search the doctor's name?when Isreal has had little covid deaths from the vaccinated and the general record is that it is mostly the unvaccinated that die and are hospitalised why should I go and check for something sinister and misleading?.

He won in court on the case of technicality,they didn't give him enough time before revoke his visa so the court held that the border officials failed on the procedural issues not necessarily whether or not he couldn't have his visa revoked since Australia is a sovereign nation and can decide who stays in their country.

It is now left for Alex Hawke to decide and he will likely revoke his visa I can be wrong sha but the information is that it is on high consideration right now and if it is revoked they will follow procedure and Djokovic won't win in court again.

After all their country their rules and a lot of Australians are not happy with him.

Jeromejnr:
Or how many have been hospitalised? Stay of CNN.

Show him a link not a screenshot, if truly in Israel the unvaccinated are the ones dying since you have first hand information about the virus in Israel more than the Israeli health officials

deolurexy1:
you are very foolish sir, what is the crime in rejecting a vaccine that you arent comfortable with. Role model kill una there

I believe the argument is that you owe a duty of care to others and in times of an ongoing pandemic a global health emergency your personal freedom/liberty is subject to the health and well being of others.

Meaning that your freedom of choice is not superior to the safety and wellness of others because you can infect them and they can infect you too,there is nothing like absolute freedom when people are dying or their health is at risk because of your refusal to get vaccinated.

That is the argument for vaccines or mandatory vaccines.
Where ones rights ends that is when the rights of others start

ImoleNaija:
I no want any of those worldly circles, thank you.

Then don't make assumptions that I am lying when you haven't expanded your circle or seen beyond your bubble.

You don't want worldly circles but you think you can give opinions on things you haven't seen or heard of which could be worldly according to you

ImoleNaija:
They also do butt enlargement to please themselves

We know you're lying but continue...

Yes they do.

And I am not lying expand your circle or check Google to see various reasons why they do that

Grandmeister:
Lol I’ve never seen a more dishonest post tonight. You mean women who get butt implants do it for validation from their fellow women? You like comparing apples and oranges. It is called a beach for a reason! Men and women also wear swimming trunks when going to the pool here in Nigeria don’t they?

Learn to read they may get butt implants because they admire it on other women that was what I said or they are not comfortable in their own looks due to esteem issues don't misinterpret my word.
You are the dishonest person here who refuses to accept the reality that not all women dress to please men or seek their validation some of them just love fashion and being beautiful in their own way.

Grandmeister:
You said you’re the least fashionable woman so that rules you out of the topic. Besides, we’re talking about a negroid woman wearing the hairs of a blonde Caucasian woman. You claim we’re not the reason why many women wear skimpy body revealing clothes? So who are they showing of the skins to impress? Their fellow women? Who do they spend a fortune on getting silicon butts and boobs to impress and attract? Their fellow women? Lol give me a break!

It doesn't rule me out of the topic because the OP made it seem like women needed men's validation and the reason they always dressed was to please men and I disagree so I used my unfashionable self as an example because I chose to dress how I am comfortable in and not for the purpose of attracting men.

Lol,go to Miami beach with women on Bikinis and think that they give a hoot about you to impress you they are simply wearing what they are comfortable in and I said that women's dressing isn't always to please men so I didn't rule out the possibility that some women dress to please men but that doesn't mean all of us do.
Some of them spend money on silicon because they may not be comfortable in their skin or admire it on other women and not necessarily to always please or attract men because if that were the case many of us would have done the surgery but then how many of us do that?even some of the surgeries are even for correctional or health purposes too.

I will reiterate again women don't always dress to please men, attract them or seek their validation I know this because I am one of those women who will dress in what I like and I am comfortable in.