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danilmo:
thats the problem Christians have, see God as an automated being, we need to understand God the more than the just knowledge parent feed us with.

Atheist already made the mistake to quit before their knowledge of God grow strong,

now they become nuisance and a strong tool in the hand of the devil.
anyway, we are free to live our life the way we feel , but the truth I think I know most b told, leaving any1 to belief ,

whatever rocks our boat..

I'm really not into denigrating anybody including atheists because, let's be honest, we are all products of our background - if you were born and live in Saudi Arabia you'd be a raving moslem right now.
Also, I want your opinion on this, I'm asking because I truly want to know what u think: why do you think the Lord God has never come out and openly and clearly identified Himself to us, and let Himself be clearly seen?
Hopefullandlord

NurseJP:
Thomas,better still search NNAKWE JOHNPAUL on your browser���

Hehehehe. I can't believe that guy was fooled into wearing that garb. He looks like a clown! Lol. OK, now I believe u.

Earthbound:
Then you must be Caucasian. Bye

Ok, so only Caucasians never got sold? In that case I am Caucasian. Fair enough?

hopefulLandlord:
You're praying to the same god that supposedly watched it all happen and didn't do anything to save these people?
Oh! if forgot!! There are several excuses you can chose from

1. Well we live in a fallen and imperfect world.

2.God didn't cause this disaster, we did by betraying him in the first place.

3.God is in charge and that disaster was part of his plan, it's possible the disaster brought all those people to Jesus in their dying moments, he works in mysterious ways.

4. they were all atheist sinners and God killed them to punish them.

5. God couldn't have intervened to stop it with a visible miracle or we'd have no choice but to believe, which would remove free will.

6. He works in mysterious ways

Man prays to God or praises God because he needs to not because God needs it. God is God and does as He does for His own reasons. Your praying to Him is not a favor to Him nor does it put Him under any obligation. He doesn't need "excuses".
Danilmo

Earthbound:
Unless you are Caucasian, your questions don't make sense to me

I was NEVER sold. Even my ancestors were not.
So I don't understand.

Earthbound:
Africa, my Africa.

They must have said an evil spirit entered the mother's womb during pregnancy.

Surgery corrected her physique. 'Praise be to the white witch doctor', in the words of our forefathers who sold us into slavery.

You were sold into slavery? Where? America?

kevoh:
This is garbage talk and dodging the obvious. I am not even going to dwell on this, as the point of meat in rice analogy has been well passed across. If you want to keep dribbling around the obvious to discerning eyes, that's your cup of tea. I am still interested in how you want to use quantum mechanics to prove there no obvious faults in the Bible. You are the one making the claim of quantum mechanics! The burden of proof is on you


If talking snake is a myth as asserted by you and other parts of the Bible myths how then did you come up with the statistics that the Bible is 97% true . Stop sugar coating it, the Bible either has faults or does not have faults. Shikena! 97% or 5 % is you dancing around it. The book is either true or not?

If the Bible has even only one fault such as the talking snake, then the claim that its the word of a supposedly Omniscient god is completely demolished! Infact, it should remain in the category of fiction books like Harry Porter and Game of thrones.

ARE YOU OK? I have already said there are, of course, myths and such in the bible but these are easily discernable. Also, how can something be in the hands of man for so long without something creeping in. Non of that changes the fact that the story of the Jews and God in the Bible is essentially true.

As for your rice and meat, if you accept that we may not even exist, if you accept that we can't explain prophesies or miracles, once accept that we don't really know the true nature of reality, you will begin to see the limitations of your rice and meat analogy.

SmartPolician:
I started reading my Bible from Genesis. It was very interesting, but I couldn't carry on because of endless worries of life

Read the WORDS of Lord Jesus and letters of St. Paul and dwell on those. Example:

Philippians 4:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Fuckadict:
don't mind the monika, I just used it to attract attention

No, I think that's what uppermost in your mind.
ChristAddict would have attracted just as much attention.

awesomeJ:
I want to answer you based on my assumption that you're asking to learn.

Ask yourself, if a piece of red meat is thrown on the floor, why would a dog rush at it, whereas a gaat wouldn't bulge?
It's the nature.

The sinful nature in a natural man is what causes all kinds of evil covetousness and cravings in him. By evil I mean, having your own wife with whom you've taken an oath of fidelity, yet running around to seek illicit sex with others, including people's wives. The cravings could be as bad as wanting the death of another purely out of envy.

When your nature becomes renewed, you find that you only desire things that are right and not more. Meanwhile, God doesn't forbid Christian to have sex, wine and dine well, or have good cars and enjoy great music. as a Christian, I do all those.
Alcohol and tobacco, go outside the bible to medicine, and check out their effects on your health. why then would you want them?

When we get to heaven, we'll have a totally new nature, and we'll be in a totally new environment, albeit awesome.

Our bliss at that time will be the utter satisfaction of every desire that springs from our new nature, and the total absence of anything that brings dissatisfaction.

I'm not sure of all those things are specifically, but I don't have to. All I know is that whatever my nature at that time desires-singing, running around, building stuffs- whatever they are, I'll get them FULLY satisfied.

In addition to all that you mentioned, Boko Haram people also believe they will also get 72 virgins. How do u explain that?

asuustrike2009:
Those who are atheist were once Christians and Muslims. They had Bible and Koran knowledge but were frustrated by the challenge of life. The technological innovations you see around can be likened to the more you look the less you see. There are many things that goes behind the scene that these persons don't reveal. They only deceive the masses with hard labour to turn away people's mind.

I think u r mistaken. I think it is because spirituality, faith, the supernatural, cannot be explained by science and logic, and these are people totally immersed in science and logic.

asuustrike2009:
To answer your question,
1. Dr Olukoya got his PhD in Molecular Genetics at the University of Reading, United Kingdom.
2. Those developed countries made sacrifices to get to where they are. USA for example dedicated their country to God. This is as a result of fervent prayers from top pastors. Their prayers made way for them. Secondly their kind of voodooism rarely causes havoc like ours as they use their for good things. The whites aren't different from us except for skin colour.

How then do you explain that almost all those behind USA technological innovations and advantage are either atheists or not conventionally religious? (Like NL's Seun)

BTW I'm impressed he has a real Ph.D. I see too many of these "Dr" pastors who can barely speak English.

kevoh:
Pardon my ignorance Sir, I have zero idea of quantum mechanics. Can you give us a brief summary of what it is all about and how it changes or disproves the fact that because there are already faults in the Bible that we definitely find one when we look for faults!
How does quantum mechanics explain silly stories like a talking snake or the mention of inexistent creatures like dragons in the Bible?

You can go to physics.com or Google and try to cure your ignorance. I can only tell you that, according to quantum physics, wether u find meat in the rice or not is not dependent on wether there is actually meat in the rice (this is actually meaningless) but is dependent on who is looking and their expectation (faith) that they will find meat in the rice.

BTW talking snake could be myth as can other parts of the bible. That doesn't change the fact that the Bible is essentially true (I mean as true as things can be in a universe where we don't have THE SLIGHTEST IDEA what 97% of it is)

tomakint:
D

If only you know what I am talking about you wouldn't have stoop this low.

I'm talking from experience. I know people who have done this (or say they have done this).
What do you think of the quote below:

PrecisionFx:
""The word of God is inspired by the spirit of God""

Who told u that the word of God (Bible) was inspired by the spirit of God

The spirit told him. Let's see u argue that one.

kevoh:
Thank you! The bolded is all we wanted to see. No dancing around. Now replace rice with Bible and meat with fault. Are you still dishonest enough to disagree that it is because there are faults in the Bible that one finds one?

And no, burnt rice is never meat! Stay focused to the point of discuss and stop dropping red herrings!

You obviously don't know anything about quantum mechanics

Fuckadict:
what u consider fault is not fault to one that knows the word.
The word of God is inspired by the spirit of God.
Therefore,one need thesame spirit to interpret, and to understand the same word.
If you don't have the spirit and you don't seek him but depends on human knowledge to decode that which is secretly crafted by the supernatural, then you will find faults and confusion.

I find it funny that someone with your moniker is talking like this.

Anyway, to the topic, in dicussing the bible (or anything for that matter) the first thing we have to decide is parameters otherwise anything can be right or wrong. For instance I can say the spirit told me a white cloth is actually black and who are you to say it's a lie.
Precisionfx, kevoh

asuustrike2009:
That is the misconception many persons have about Dr Olukoya. Although his ministry is into deliverance, he teaches other aspect of life. When a man makes effort to succeed yet his effort are thwarted, there is something behind it. It could be the man not pushing harder or some evil forces behind it. The spiritual controls the physical that is why whatever happens physically had already manifested in the spirit realm. This messages are tailored in depending on God for help when all effort are wasted.

Where and when did he get his "Dr."

How come developed countries simply face problems on the physical level and solve them?Yet they are way ahead of Naija.
Just asking.

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fighal:
where I talk say people will not know??

Ok, I confused u with moniker zyzyn
(See zyzyn comment above)

PrinzEleju:
Yeah,yoruba don do it again.

Is India in Yoruba?

How about spiritual reasons why you are unfortunately married (and you don't want to be)

True

Dumb idea. VERY DUMB.
The bible should not be read this way.

I dedicate this FTC to:

#AmbodeMustGo!!!
He and his little, arrogant, priest-sacking wife.
Little, arrogant people.

I also dedicate this FTC to:
#Atiku Is Corrupt!!
US: Atiku Abubakar In $40 Million Money-Laundering
Feb 3, 2010 · A United States Senate report has accused Atiku Abubakar, Nigeria’s former Vice-President, of laundering over $40 million in suspicious funds into the United States between 2000 and 2008. And his partner in the lucrative effort was Jennifer Douglas, his fourth wife.

I also dedicate this FTC to:
#Buhari Is useless

True

So what's wrong with being in the garage

Not bad

I dedicate this FTC to:

#AmbodeMustGo!!!
He and his little, arrogant, priest-sacking wife.
Little arrogant people.

I also dedicate this FTC to:
#Atiku Is Corrupt!!
US: Atiku Abubakar In $40 Million Money-Laundering
Feb 3, 2010 · A United States Senate report has accused Atiku Abubakar, Nigeria’s former Vice-President, of laundering over $40 million in suspicious funds into the United States between 2000 and 2008. And his partner in the lucrative effort was Jennifer Douglas, his fourth wife.

I also dedicate this FTC to:
#Buhari Is Useless

Wow!!!

I know all these already

Saw it in the news

I am suspicious of this post