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GNature:
My sister, every second spent on Nairaland is a learning experience.

Infact, Seun should be issuing us College credits for partaking in this forum. Walahi.

I am going to bed, But I must agre with you there, It like being in class on presentation day, which happen to be worth 50% of your grade

ikomi we no be frenz anymore!!
@blue not mixed and thanks for the compliment on my hair!

GNite people!!! happy posting

[quote author=blue-sky link=topic=51574.msg1101340#msg1101340 date=1178661895]@ topic
what is wrong with black men dating non black women?
why are most black women more in favour of keeping to the race?[/quote]Its about self preservation, self-love vs. self hate, culture and community?  As long as that can be maintained then most of my concerns are voided.  That's one of the reasons I jokingly said it's okay for a black woman to have white mans baby because you are what your mother is!!!

But there is plenty else to whine about as Redlips put it, Money, Education, Alcoholism, Infidelity, shall I whine go on?

I am done here, the topic has been given its due attention, not need for me to go further

Ikomi you are horrible, Na fight? no be me and you!

Ikomi:
Who has the last laugh.

Whether I understand english oohh or I don't understand english. We read it all.

No be only me read am. Red _Lips u wan ruuuuuunnnnn.

lol

Una go kill me here wit laughter.

Red_Lips and Ameromoge.

Keep the heat on.

As I said I will not be bated, I will let my words speak for themselves.
Those who agree speak up and those who don't do the same. If everyone thought like me then we would not have a debate here, and this topic would not be getting all this attention, So in my opinion my job is done #4

This is my take on the whole thing, Dispite you not giving me respect I will show you that Red-Lips,  I only ask that if you going to tell people what I say say it right,

At no point did I ever say, recommend or suggest Black women lie on your back and let black men walk all over you, Not ever, At no point did I suggest nor recommend they waste their time on losers and low life.  My words is that as Black women we always have your back, There are loads of educated black men who can't find work and his woman holds him down, as many of them same men once they find their ground leave them for white women or others,  The women that may take them back with open arms does not have to be that woman, But didn't think I had to break it down that far.  That woman could be another black woman, his sister, his mother who allows him to come back in their home tell he gets his footing, and at times it may be that same back women and most often she take him back for her children sake, She may be a fool but she knows without a father in the home her daughter is more likely to be pregnant before the age of 20.  As far as losers and the sort white women can have each and everyone of them, matter of fact the black community may consider paying them a lump sum per loser.  

Most Everything I posted was regarding the impact this has on the community culture.  I hope you know that your are free to say as you wish, I say it to show respect, but am not afford the same.  No need to take anything personal but I ask you not to infer or imply that at any point I suggest Black woman put the esteem below that of their man.  Please don't ever misquote me like that.

Just incase yall need a refresher on what I been talking about here you go:

1.  Let me make it simple. . .

It is about black men. . .both African and African -American men marrying non black women. . .leaving black women in a marriage squeeze where they are not getting married for the three reasons identified in the article. . .

My question is. . .is this really a problem for Naija women. . . or just Naija and other Black women abroad i.e. in the States and the UK?

Which leaves me wondering what the fascination is with being with women of other races. . .

@whitelexi please. . .it is not equal rights that did it. . .before we point the finger we must first look at self. . .ask yourself how long would you put up with the typical treatment that men give women before you decide enough is enough and assert yourself, need and desires. . .

Men are not the only humans that have wants and needs and just like when you are not satisfied with something you respond to it either by making a change or letting it be. . . compromise or whatever. . .

Respect is earn not given. . .and even if respect is given once lost it needs to be earned. . .

2.  this not to say that we are better than any other woman but that we are your other half. . . your neck if you will. . .when the world degrades you and call you names as your neck I help you hold your head high and give you the strength it takes to face this cruel discriminatory world another day . . .

I nag you because I care, because I want the best from you. . .because this is what I pledge to give you. . . I wont allow you to slip because the world wont and I will only be doing you a disservice if I don't tell you the truth regardless to how much it hurts. . .

3.  I just wish they could see eternal hope and strength within us,
4.  This is exactly why started this thread. . .because I think black men need to re-evaluate the potential damage they are doing to "the black family" etc. . .

5.  Well if i want one. . .any piece of one. . . that I can have. . .but I am searching. . .seeking to build an empire with one and that requires more than settling for a piece of a man for the sake of saying I have one. . .oops i think that's for a different thread o!

6.  Spoilt it has to start with black people learn or relearning to love there blackness it is must O!!!
7. How about yall take some responsibility for abandoning your responsibilities to the blaclk family, culture and community. It is not you who are left raising children and working two jobs to make ends meet. No it is us, and when the white man wont employ you who is that has your back. Lets try taking responsibility for what we do.

8.  True this problem been growing for a long time o! Colonization maybe but what we need is to take a stance against it. How we going to get better when so many of us hate the skin we in cause it is hard. Hell who ever promised you it was going to be easy. Stop taking the easy way out. That's what make black women so strong we don't have a way out. the world rejects us and our men do too because it too much hard work.

9. Stop believing that being accepted by white people that your life will be so much easier. Make them respect you, by respecting yourself and culture. Stop denying yourself "Tiger W.) who's a lost cause, I pray for his father. That's another topic for another day.

Ikomi no need to bate me into a battle with Red-Lips, I have my opinion she has her, I am not afraid or chicken to speak my mind, nor to disagree, but misquoting me and suggesting I am lonely when she don't know me from Ann, is a place I choose not to go any further with her or anyone else on nairaland. As I have said a thousand times we are all entitled to our opinions I am not asking NOT A ONE OF YOU to adopt mine.  I am confident enough in my viewpoint to STAND ALONE if I have to.  

When I refer to the black community I refer to the ENTIRE BLACK/AFRICAN diaspora, From Africa to the Islands to the Americas.

Like my signature say I am who YOU think I am but who I be will ALWAYS be ME.

Again Red_Lips you are free to think what you wish, no one ever stated that you need to agree!
No one here whining about being alone!!!Please don't get it twisted, poetry is creative expression try using your imagination, Maybe it is titled that way because people like yourself who don't know better see the statements made as racism, it so that they can understand.

But if you want to say we have low self esteem or imply it maybe you should take your interracial couple loving ass and post a thread praising it's glory as for this thread you wont find it here.

I will assume when you use the word "you" you are referring to women in general especially with regards to relationships, but if you didn't do the same things(make the same mistakes) wit that white man you'd still be with him.  Because if you paid attention to the women of the thread we can stand alone with or without a man.  But you want to see our love, passion and compassion for our culture, hertiage, community and future as a people as a weakness, Then I say again to you, you are free to think as you wish as I am, And if loving my people and wanting us to grow strong families is a weakness then call me WEAK O'jare!!!!

I will agree to disagree with you Red-Lips, being a woman of opinion I respect that we each have one!!

Ikomi:
Have u changed your position

David and you have caused fear catch Red_lips, what yall do?

[quote author=Red_Lips link=topic=51574.msg1100773#msg1100773 date=1178644973]That is indeed racism if it actually makes you sick to see an interracial couple.

Dont know why you girls are fooling yourselves.[/quote]Darling you are free to think whatever you wish but I know what racism is and as a black people or as black people we do not possess the wealth to be racist, Am I discriminatory maybe but so are you and everyone else, when you choose red over blue or green over yellow. But having preferences do not make one a racist.  The individual must possess power in order to due so.  Just as women can't be sexist blacks cant be racist!!!

This poem was written long before the article and this thread:
I’m not a racist but
I’m not a racist but, I get sick to my stomach, when I see a brother with a white chick
Now the world may think that I am envious or may even say I am jealous But how can the mother of the human race wear a green face
See it’s not that I want to take her place, The issue is much greater and I need to express my feelings with a bit of grace

I’m not a racist but, How dare you put her before me, treating her like the Queen only I can be
The thought alone puts me in a rage Shut up and listen while I express myself on this page
You say I am full of drama, Ooo you know what let me lower my voice and speak a little calmer
Sitting here telling me you an equal opportunity lover, Trying to convince me LOVE knows no color

I’m not a racist but, I lose respect for you as a MAN, She wont ever understand, regardless to how much she tans
She can NEVER be who I am, I am your friend, your lover your sista, your partner, your wife, I am the air you breathe that gives you life
Biblically, I am your neck, your EVE, and even the mother of your seeds, I am not a racist but, can’t you see your involvement with her is destroying the us in we.

 
are you trying to spark a fire david? too bad you join so late i'm off to bed now!!!

Only waiting on Spoilt and the boys!!!

babyosisi:
This topic has changed to something else.
Spoilt don't let the efulefu brothers get to you.

They are trying to change it but it is unlikely, some guy will come on here and post professing his love for white women and _{the "lying dogs will no longer lay"} and the thread will be set a blaze again.

Ok that is the extent of my pidgin, I think you said which level/how much do I know or want to learn, after that i have no clue what you are saying

until then okomi until then

spoilt im signed in!

spoilt, email me

Spoilt hmmm, it should work try emailing me then

ikomi you did not respond so i left!!!

Ikomi abeg come closer I cant reach you from way over there. how are we to blame oh!

Spoilt I agree that what I meant by colonization, in the states it was slavery but after slavery colonization was still present for many African nations,

Yeah let get intouch, I dont know how the PM thing work if you do then get in touch that way if not I will post my yahoo IM.

True this problem been growing for a long time o!  Colonization maybe but what we need is to take a stance against it.  How we gonna get better when so many of us hate the skin we in cause it is hard. Hell who ever promised you it was going to be easy.  Stop taking the easy way out.  That's what make black women so strong  we dont have a way out.  the world rejects us and our men do too because it too much hard work.

Stop believing that being accepted by white people that your life will be so much easier.  Make them respect you, by respecting yourself and culture.  Stop denying yourself "Tiger W.) who's a lost cause, I pray for his father.  That's another topic for another day.

We have to love who we are the way we are!!! Spoilt I love the way you think girl.

Ikomi:
Spoilt no bring me out for sun oooh. I did not call anyone pap or yoghurt, its just an analogy.

But what u all must understand in all this issue is that black women cannot keep blamming black men or white women for there (if i am permitted "misfortunes" ). I have never seen anyone scale through by blaming others for there problems. I believe the black woman must be doing something not very right. First is the hair attachments. Most men love to see there women in there natural beauty but when u start looking artificial, for most responsible men its a turn off.

Ikomi if I were close enough to you I would smack your mouth _{not that I advocate violence} but how dare you say thatt we are doing something wrong, this is way bigger than us wearing a wig, How about yall take some responsibility for abandoning your responsibilities to the blaclk family, culture and community.  It is not you who are left raising children and working two jobs to make ends meet.  No it is us, and when the white man wont employ you who is that has your back.  Lets try taking responsibility for what we do.  this is not to say we dont have a few bad seeds that spoil it for all black women but this was happening long before they ever came along.

Why do you think black women do what they dowith their hair because you say you want natural beauty but what you think is beauty is that cornsilk BS that white women have.

Abeg O! dont get me started.

Spoilt we do need to get in touch  

Ikomi:
I also think it has to do with the level of reasoning of the dude. You don't expect a man that has never tasted youghurt before to compare it with mere pap. He could only see the that there is no difference after a long time. But sometimes his sences might not get matured enough 4 him to find out.

With that being said am sure of one thing. If white men found our black ladies so attractive that they will fall over themselves to have a black sista am sure a black brotha would not only have to build a sky scrapper to have a black sista, in a relationship, he would also have to boast he has being dining with the creator.

that may be true for some but again aint nothing like a black man, _{physically if you know what i mean} and otherwise.

Spoilt it has to start with black people learn or relearning to love there blackness it is must O!!!