This abomination isn't in his right mind anymore .

Some people dont know that there's a thin line separating cruelty and discipline. And if not for over familiarity with the parents,how would suspect even have the gutsbto try such an act? Anyway, speedy recovery to the kids

Nice. Want to see more of this soon

Women like these are one of the many reasons why I love and support the redpill movement. Just imagine ...she is not even bothered about the deceased , rather , she is worried about how others will condemn her promiscuous image once news gets out.

Well, I hope we can all see that the purpose of marrying , trusting or even loving a woman is a futile exercise that only a very foolish man will engage in.

Anyway, RIP to the dead . And I hope this will be a lesson to the simps out there

achorladey:



Let me act like someone who had not come across this verse before?

From this Revelation 20: 13 - 15

What is the second death?

If the second death is the lake of fire, does it mean vice versa?( i.e lake of fire = second death)


If above is true, what happens in the lake of fire according to the same Revelation?

Torment or death or whatever?

Maybe breaking this into smaller bit could drive the explanation through.

Oga, the bible in Revelations tells us plainly that the lake of fire is a place of eternal torment that's prepared for the Death, Hell, the Devil, his Angels, the Beast and all those who practice lawlessness.

It is commonly referred to as the second death . Because the first death was the one that came through Adam and that had been reversed by the price Jesus paid on the cross .

cornelboy:


Revelation 20:14
[14]And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Can you explain that verse pls?

The 13th verse of Revelations 20 tells us plainly that death and hell are places that hold the souls of men . Now the immediate context following verse 13 says the dead are delivered up from death and hell in verse. This means the dead are not in death or hell , when those two (death and hell) are thrown into the lake of fire:

See the verse below

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.—Revelation 20:13–15

Therefore, the effect of throwing death and hell into the lake of fire is intended for destruction. This is the purpose of lake of fire: everlasting torture, or destruction. Why ? Because fire symbolizes destruction.

And when you look at it logically , do death and hell even exist anymore once all the dead are delivered from them? No!

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cornelboy:


Mark 9:43
[43]If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell with two hands.

The word Jesus used was knowingly or unknowingly mistranslated to hell.
It's Gehenna which means a literal place call valley of hinnom situated just outside Jerusalem.

Jesus used it to illustrate the place of the wicked. They will die and continue to die. Their smoke will rise up forever. The worms and fire will continue to consume their dead bodies forever.
While the righteous will be given their life back. A new life!

Compare with;
Isaiah 66:24
[24]And as they go out, they will see
    the dead bodies of those who have rebelled against me.
For the worms that devour them will never die,
    and the fire that burns them will never go out.
All who pass by
    will view them with utter horror.”

[/s] It is not mistranslated oga ; Jesus said it is actually a place prepared for the Devil, his angels and all those who rebel against God. (Matt25:41)

MaxInDHouse:

No wahala, go out there and fetch ZEALOUS preachers and INDUSTRIOUS teachers who will be as devoted as Jehovah's Witnesses so you can baptize them in the name of your God, no wahala! Matthew 28:19-20

No thanks. I'd rather take my chances by reading on my own and following what was taught by the apostles themselves

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus is still the person talking here:

The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, Revelations 1:1

This is what Daniel meant that only few people will UNDERSTAND:

Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand. Daniel 12:10

This does not clarify anything ,in fact it is not even related to the topic at all.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus is still the one speaking in symbolic terms Sir so if you don't ask his true disciples you can never understand what he meant there!

Bros, I do not believe that . Why? Because Jesus talked more about hell than He did about heaven in order to warn men of its reality. To deny this and claim His words were symbolic would be the height of foolishness.

That's the reality of the world today . So much confusion and perversion that people no longer fear God or the laws of conscience .

MaxInDHouse:


Quote where HellFire is mentioned anywhere else apart from Jesus' parables!

The book of Revelations20:14: . And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:


Grave is a place of inactive so Jesus meant that Satan and his demons should be sent to a place of inactivity where they will no longer be able to cause confusion, but such a place is not meant for Adam's innocent descendants who found themselves in imperfect state of condition!

That is still not true . The bible clearly defines what hell really is and it is not a place of inactivity, rather it is a place of torment and torture . See Revelations 14 :11 : "And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name

This certainly does not look like a place of inactivity , instead it sounds like a place of weeping, wailing and anguish. Which are activities that men engage in

MaxInDHouse:


In the Bible book of Revelations it's the same Jesus that's still talking.
There is no disciple of Jesus that talked about HellFire what your people translated HELL is GRAVE!

So what about Thessalonians and 2Peter ? Is it still not the apostles of Jesus ?

MaxInDHouse:

None of Jesus' disciples preached about HellFire Sir, and as for the word translated HELL it simply means GRAVE. There is nothing called "HellFire" anywhere.
The Bible book of Revelation is still the same Jesus talking there! Revelations 1:1

Don't kill yourself with BP over blind arguments Sir the word translated HELL is GRAVE but there's nothing called HellFire!

So the books of Revelations, 2 Peter and Thessalonians were not written by the Apostles of Jesus ,abi? You JWs amaze me wallahi


Okay, let us assume that Hell means "grave ". Why would Jesus lay so much emphasis on it if it meant just that . Also why will He describe it as a place prepared for the Devil and his Angel's? (Matt25:41)

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MaxInDHouse:


Jesus taught his people in PARABLES {Matthew 13:13, 34-35} so only his closest confidants were able to grasp what he taught but for you to know that all what you're reading in Jesus' comments aren't to be understood literally none of his disciples wrote anything about HellFire!
Why? Because they know what he meant not just taking his words literally as you are doing now!

[/s] Why do you keep lying and denying the existence of hell? If Jesus taught His disciples about hell ,then certainly , they too would have preached the same message to their congregations!


As a matter of fact, they did mention of the existence of hell in several letters written to church .

For example the book of Revelation 21:8(that was written by John the Apostle ) had this to say "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Another verse from Paul the Apostle reads :

2 Thessalonians 1:9:"They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might

Even Peter's letter to Jews carried a similar message

2 Peter 2:4 :"For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment;



Even the book of Revelations says that Hell and death will be thrown into the lake of fire . Or do you want to still deny that ?

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cornelboy:


Religion invented hell bro.
The reward for sinners is eternal death (they will cease to exist) not eternal life in hell.

So if sinners and wicked people went to hell burning in fire for eternity, two things happen:
1. They have eternal life
2. They will be/are able to bear the pain for the eternity.

You wanna study the Bible with the JWs?

[/s] Jesus spoke more about hell than heaven . Which is why He said "... It is better to enter into life maimed, than to be cast into the fire , where their worms do not die and the fire is not quenched ". (Matt9:48). This is no other place other than hell

cornelboy:

If indeed wicked people and sinners will go to hell i.e have eternal life but in bearable pain, then there's no reason for me to forfeit the enjoyments of this life for some life in heaven.

After all, if I started doing contrary to God's will, I will still eternal life plus power to endure the pain and suffering in hell fire forever. I'll also be immortal!

You have an idea of what you wish for yourself . But try putting your hand in fire for 5 seconds and see if you can endure it.

This is an absurd question. It's like asking if you've seen the real picture of Pythagoras who you know existed sometime in human history

Janosky:

Oga, you have no proof for your FALSEHOOD.

Yet you have a freemason Cross & symbols in your bedroom and in your business centers & in your Church.
JWs have none !

Bigotry and hypocrisy is rife in you .

Janosky, do you remember that video a mysterious Nairalander uploaded that showed certain elders of your organization(WatchTower) being full blown freemasons...? If you've forgotten I can send you the link where we had the discussion

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MrBrownJay1:
lets put sentiments aside. regardless of how big an actor a person is and/or how he isnpires people and/or what was the joke about....will smith had no valid reason whatsoever to physically attack Chris Rock, NONE!!!

...and if you sir slapped someone because they made fun of your gf, it says a lot about your "holy" mindset.

as much as he probably didnt deserve the 10yr ban, he also didnt deserve to keep being seated at the oscar (as if nothing had happened) AND receive his oscar, after what he did.

[/s] You have no right to judge since you also have your own faults

Janosky:

Oga, again you violated Nairaland Rule 8.

Continue DECEIVING yourself.

You will wail and wail until you tell me why freemasonry keeps heading watchtower

I've always known JWs to be highly confused in their doctrines . Anyway, can we blame them since freemasons are heading their organization

Price

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Janosky:


John 10:30, did Jesus Christ put holy spirit in verse 30?
The guy shepaly dodge the question to avoid exposure of his FALSE claims..

John 20:17
Jesus replied:
"I Am ascending to my Father and your Father, my God and your God."

Acts 3:13 & John 20;17, JEHOVAH's servants do not worship God's

Your Trinity mentors knew that Jesus Christ is archangel Michael in 1599 before the advent of King James version in 1611.
They copied King James Version from the Geneva Bible.

[/s] We both know that we dont serve the same God . Your God is the idol of Charles Russell Taze (who's Revelations were freemason in nature ). And secondly , how can my Jesus be angel Michael when the bible clearly says that Jesus is both the word of God and God Himself (John1:1-10)

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Steep:
you are confused. Who said the Trinity is not one being? You spend time debating what you don't even know, even when you were corrected you still tried to prove your ignorance.

John 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

Do you you know how to read and comprehend?
1.Jesus said he does not judge alone. Meaning there is more than one person.

2. Jesus said he and his father bear witness of himself fulfilling the law.

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

Jesus fulfilled this because the father and Jesus bear record.
You see how scripture agree and flow with each other.

[/s] You're being more stupid than necessary and secondly, an idiot like you can't correct me on what the bible and Jesus plainly says about God's identity.


Jesus in His time told His listeners that He had a Father, and when His disciples asked who this Father was He plainly told them that He was the one . (John14:6-10). Which was why Paul in His epistle in 1Timothy3:16 said " Great is the mystery of Godliness. For God was manifested in the flesh , justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached to the gentiles and received up in glory . ". Argue that with your bible

Janosky:


Did your own Bible put holy spirit @ John 10:30?
Did Jesus Christ mention holy spirit@ John 10:30?

Oga,do not add to the holy scriptures.
Continue DECEIVING yourself.

You and I don't serve the same God and you know this. Your Jesus is angel Michael while mine is God Almighty

Steep:

Jesus never said he is the father but he said this below.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

This is the Trinity. You can deny it as long as you want, it will not erase it from the bible.

No one is arguing with you that there isn't a trinity ,but what you fail to acknowledge is that the trinity is essentially one divine being whose name is Jesus Christ . I have shown you verse in the bible that say over and over who Jesus christ really is ,and all you've done so far is deny those verse and place your shallow interpretations that have no scriptural links .

This autistic man keeps making me laugh

Steep:
I have provided you enough evidence in the scriptures for the Trinity.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

And what I gave is authoritative evidences that says Jesus is God Almighty. The Father, Son and Holy Spirt are one person (John 10:30). And if you deny this you're simply denying what Jesus said about Himseelf. Simple