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TAO11:
This writing system, which encompasses the history and philosophy of Ife is known in early Ife as Ikedu. The surviving text is unpublicized for certain reasons, but some experts have been able to access it.

I agree with you here, and you are 100% accurate with your overall analyses.

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Faces Of Africans: The Rastaferian Coming Home to Africa

Given that the topic is about Ethiopia, i choose to concentrate my efforts on positivity.

If you ask a Rastaferian, they will tell you that their concepts are born out of the Ethiopian culture.

If it quacks as duck and walks as a duck; it can only possibly be a duck.

Eventhough i DO NOT subscribe to their concepts or religion, i appreciate them whole-heartedly, anything that will bring about African progress.

Deadlytruth:
The concept itself never emanated from Haile Selassie. Certain Jamaicans only assumed he was a their deity despite the man himself denied it

You arguments are baseless and deprecating.

Tell me, what is your point.

Instead of you to accept from those that have experience.

You're attemp to pointless arguement is failing you.

Answer me the simple question.

Are you Rasta?

Have you friends or family that are Rastaferian?

My experience with Rastaferian is very broad indeed.

I dont claim to be Rastaferian, yet, we have come across so many different Jamaican Rastaferian in our lifetime; you can take it from me, they definately do NOT see him as God. Plus, they DO NOT assume their concept originates from Ethiopia, they insist it does.

The overwhelming feedback i get when posed with the question, where does their concept originate, 99% of them will respond as thus:

Ethiopia is where the Rastaferian originates. Hence, their spiritual leader is Haile Salassie.

gatiano:
You are very right, and you are in tune with your intuition. Nobody can tell what happen in my house except for Me, and I will surely pass it on unto my children.

Thank you sir. I am truly humbled.
You are an inspiration to me, to African progress.

Ethiopia is where the Rasterfarian originates.

Why?

Because the Rastaferians themselves say exactly that.

These are not my words. These are what the people from the West Indies tell us.

Deadlytruth:
Why are you so shamelessly changing tune? You started by claiming that Rastafarianism originated in Ethiopia. Someone tried to correct you but you stuck to your ignorance.
See your original post below


But now that you have been shown the fact, rather than accept it you change it to the issue of concept.

Everyone knows that Rastafarian is associated with Jamaica, yet they themselves trace their Rastafari to Ethiopia.

Stop trying to misconscrue what is being said
here.

Ethiopia is where the Rasterfarian originates.

Deadlytruth:
Rastafarianism started in Jamaica by Jamaicans and not in Ethiopia.

Nobody is disputing that. As is the common notion.

Amujale:
Everyone know that Rastafarian is associated with Jamaica, yet they themselves trace their Rastafari to Ethiopia.

All i am saying, if you take the care to read, is that, according to Rastaferians, they insist that their concepts originates in Ethiopia. They definatelty have a point.

So you can get on your bike!

If you have a problem accepting their claims dont take it up with me, go ask a Rastafarian.

Deadlytruth:
Rastafarianism is the belief in and the worship of Emperor Haile Selassie as God....

Thats just a pure nonsense. You have no idea what you are on about.

I have many pals that are Rastafarian and they consider Haile Selassie as their spiritual leader, they dont believe hes God.

I am not a Rastafarian, yet i acknowledge their African credentials and how they use it to uplift and defend themselves from Eurocentric and Asian rhetoric.

mysticwarrior:
una don Start

For one to truly get understanding African history, certain conditions are to hold; one is to disregard rhetoric, foreign hear say and all other anti-African discourse with regards to history.

Furthermore, to regard African history as genuine, If it isn’t written, deliberated-upon or judged by Africans to be correct and accurate beyond reasonable doubt, such writings that fit into these category must, for now, simply be deemed inadmissible.

That is to say, in a sense, most of the present Eurocentric and Asian discourse on African history will be deemed to be false and invalid.

The universally accepted solution to defeating manufactured history and its negative impacts as proven by the Chineese and Indians, is by identifying them as false and re-re-placing them with the local and real history and then stopping to source from them.

The only true African history is that which is derived by an African(s), by default all other versions are false.

The discourse on European history is primarily exclusive to European writers.

The discourse on Asia’s history is primarily exclusive to Asian writers.

The discourse on Africa’s history is primarily badly concocted by European and Asian writers. This is where all of us (you and I) come in and repair the damage for the benefit of the next generations and our own overstanding.

RedboneSmith:
Because Haile Selassie (Ras Tafari) was Ethiopian doesn't mean the movement started in Ethiopia. Rastafarianism originated from Jamaica.

Everyone know that Rastafarian is associated with Jamaica, yet they themselves trace their Rastafari to Ethiopia.

African people circumnavigate the seas and oceans to discover the Americas thousands of years ago during the Olmec Xi civilisation. Modern day historians identify the Olmec with the Mandé people.

Whilst Africans are already well established, living in their glourious communities, the Red Indians walked the steps of Eurasia reaching the Americas on foot.

The Red Indians met various African communities already present in the Americas, as did the Europeans that came later. We fed them, clothed them and taught them how to communicate with God.

And now they want to claim Native American without the proper proclamation of Africas great influence on the continent.

Good on her. A great role model indeed.

Hopefuly someone of her kind, Nigerians can find our way into Downing Street.

wowcatty:
Unity is great but it won't last if we don't keep tradition the way it was intended and has always been. .

Now theres something we agree on.

AngryNijerian:
I told a friend but he wouldn't believe that those Arabians in Egypt are not the real/ancient Egyptians. Those Arabians must have invaded them, killed them and took over their land.

I agree with you here.

Ancient Egypt is being destroyed by the combine forces of Eurocentrics and the Arabian and Persian fundamentalists.

In antiquity, ancient Egypt often the arena of their monumental battles.

Most of the African people currently living in the North of the continent have set themselves priorities that are unAfrican.

Heres an idea!

Lets all make a wish.

A wish is always a good idea.

Sometimes, a wish could turn into a great invention or may remain as a simple wish; sometimes it depends on goodluck and a good and consistent technique.

I wish i had 100k!

Nice!

What is the idea?

Well my parents are fashion designers and how about i ask to accompany them to the stalls every weekend, the plan is to learn transfersble skills that might be of use to me in my future career. Plus, plead to them for a real salary, lets say, 10k per/wk.

I wish i had 100k

The plan is i will be followng my parents to the studios on a negotiated salary of 10k per week, i will be productive assistance to my folks for the 10 weeks. If all goes well, at the end i would have earned 100k.

Between the Red Indians and Eurocentrics there remains a sustained effort in an attempt to try and distort African history and the influence it has on the history of the Americas.

Eventhough, i definately wouldnt mind the company of the current stock of Native Americans, The Red Indians.

The Red Indians fell victim to their own selfish and corrupted tactics. Everyone always tend to unite when faced with the African.

The Red Indians shot themselves in the foot when they broke a long bond between the mainland and the Americas.

They met various African communities already present, the Red Indians also came from Eurasia into the Americas, we fed the Eurasian stock, clothed them, taught them how to communicate with God and when it came to the crunch, they betrayed their masters.

I put it to any Eurocentric academic living in the world today, that all their popular assertions that are based on flawed logic, false and misleading perceptions are being force fed to us in our classrooms everyday.

i.e Mungo Park discovered the River Niger.
That is a false, spiteful and misleading statement for him to have made, given that Nigerians are living there before Mungo Park himself was born.

Christopher Columbus discovered The Americas.
That is a false and misleading statement for anyone to make, given that Africans are the firsr to discover The Americas.

Theres an argument that suggest he didnt even visit the Americas he claims to have discovered; his vessel was said to have been pushed by the currents towards the Caribbean.

Here was where Columbus made a fool of himself by claiming to have discovered The Americas. Along the years Europes political class have in turn tried to glorify his ignorance.

The main point is that Eurocentric writers lie and cheat all the time.

Rossikk:
It takes some audacity to invade another man's land and call him lazy while stealing his inheritance. Why didn't the ''hardworking'' Europeans stay in Europe and develop their countries?

I agree with you. In those days, the Eurocentrics are scroungers, seeking out bits and pieces of other peoples stuff to weild together, steal, loot, confiscate ; causing unbelievable destructiveness anywhere they set their feet.

And now they want to preach some crazy mumbojumbo about themselvess.

They claim to be the the father of this, that and he other.

All are false claims.

I put it to any Eurocentric academic living in the world today, that all their popular assertions that are based on flawed logic, false and misleading perceptions are being force fed to us in our classrooms everyday.

i.e Mungo Park discovered the River Niger.
That is a false, spiteful and misleading statement for him to have made, given that Nigerians are living there before Mungo Park himself was born.

Christopher Columbus discovered The Americas.
That is a false and misleading statement for anyone to make.

BabaOwen:
56 millions native Americans

The native Americans caused it,they were not united.

But is a pity nobody will pay for the death of millions of people.

Africans are the original Native Americans, the present stock are due to a lengthy history of inter-ethnic mix. Africans are native to all the continents of the world including The Americas.

Ethiopia is where the Rasterfarian originates.

Heres an idea!

Lets all make a wish.

A wish is always a good idea.

Sometimes, a wish could turn into a great invention or may remain as a simple wish; sometimes it depends on goodluck and a good and consistent technique.

I wish i had 100k!

Nice!

What is the idea?

Well my parents are traders and how about i ask to accompany them to the stalls every weekend, the plan is to learn transfersble skills that might be of use to me in my future career. Plus, plead to them for a real life wage, lets say, 10k per/wk.

I wish i had 100k

The plan is i will be followng my parents to the stalls on a negotiated wage of 10k per week, i will be a good and productive assistance to my folks for 10 weeks at the end will have earned 100k


Use your wish

Make a success of the ideas.

PolymathDave:
..unity is a fairy tale, it won't happen.

We have to unite towards a common purpose.

Why?

Because our people are truly the envy of the world.

I agree with Op, Ethiopia is a great and influential African country, arguably the best, although they are after Nigeria in the ranking on my watch.

Furthemore, secure our future in todays world, concentrate on our part of the world.

Lets concentrate our focus on Africa. How to make the world a better place.

The world will only be a better place, when all our people are successfully elivated out of poverty.

Unity is worth the fuss.


Africans invents both the paper and the ink-pen.

Pan Africanist progressive policies.

Educate ourselves using our local languages.

TAO11:
Okay. It appears we are on the same page then.

Exactly

TAO11:
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Experts have come to the realization that it is a famous local deluge in the distant past in some corner of the world, rather than it been a universal..

Exactly one of the points i was trying to make, couldn't have put it any better.

All of the foreigners and places outside the continent that reported their stories to us, either experienced these AWESOME phenomenon on their own or was contained within their geographical region

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Unity allows for limitless progress.

wowcatty:
Alaafin was the true emperor.

Unity is all about concession and compromise.

For instance, i 100% agree with the notion that says Obatala creates humanity in Ife. And i accept the Emperor Oduduwa message of unity.

Lets put our differences aside in pursuit of unity.

Its time to stand in togetherness as one. There is the need to move towrds a unifying position.

We need to be in the pursuit of unity at every given opportunity.

Alaafin is also Emperor during the Oyo Empire no doubt.

However, the discussion here is about us accepting the unifying message in Oduduwa. Its around about now that we pull together in the same progressive direction.

Unity first, by all means possible.

African history has been destorted by Arabian extreemist and Eurocentric writers to help create a false perception of the world.

Africa's intellect and genuine scholarship is mainly responsible for modern civilisation.

forgiveness:
How can Isreal be created in the midst of Arabs just like that?

Well thats what superior warfare allows for anyone to achieve.

I dont sympathize with either side, between them they are responsible for an unsumountable amount of cvaos and destructiveness.

Plus, Isreal has the backing of the United States.

Thats how.