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Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by An2elect2(f): 6:16pm On Dec 03, 2014
Maamin:
Am not a catholic kiss..Jesus is the son of Yahweh, not Yahweh himself ok...two separate beings.
You are not a catholic? prove it!

Where in scripture did God identify himself as separate beings?
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by An2elect2(f): 5:51pm On Dec 03, 2014
Rilwayne001:
Thats not the answer to my question, read it again undecided
That's a rhetorical question as far as am concerned.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by An2elect2(f): 5:40pm On Dec 03, 2014
Rilwayne001:
I am not a catholic,

Now do you know much about the religion you profess? undecided
I am not a catholic. I am a Christian saved solely by the grace of God.
Christianity EtcRe: The Body Of Christ Is Not The Welfare System For Pastors by An2elect2(f): 5:38pm On Dec 03, 2014
Amen. True!

But most times am reluctant in commenting on threads opened by people who deny the deity of Christ.
I just have a hard time accepting them as brethren. I don't even think i can.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by An2elect2(f): 5:29pm On Dec 03, 2014
Rilwayne001:
He said the truth

I guess you don't know much about the religion you profess, do you?
Arguing with catholics wears me down. Pls pass me.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by An2elect2(f): 5:11pm On Dec 03, 2014
Maamin:
@bold, Jesus(the Son) is not Yahweh(the father)..Jesus is from Yahweh but not Yahweh himself...though he carries his father's name too [b]YAH[/b]shua
Well, you are a catholic after all undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by An2elect2(f): 5:11pm On Dec 03, 2014
Maamin:
@bold, Jesus(the Son) is not Yahweh(the father)..Jesus is from Yahweh but not Yahweh himself...though he carries his father's name too [b]YAH[/b]shua
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by An2elect2(f): 5:10pm On Dec 03, 2014
waldigit:
The Pope knows more about Islam than we do. I want to believe he knows what he's doing. If he is sincerely doing this for the sake of love and peace time will tell.
But there is a prophecy in Rev. 17 and 18.
I rest my case.
The pope knows nothing. He is blind.
Christianity EtcRe: The Reason Why Freewill Argument Fails To Explain Evil. by An2elect2(f): 4:34pm On Dec 03, 2014
Dapo777:
Yes I agree with you. If there truly exist a GOD who is omnipotent omnipresent omniscient, I doubt we would have freewill, GOD would be in control of everything we would be nothing but puppets in his hands if he exist. Freewill is an illusion
Perfect! any 'Christian' that daunts this submission knows nothing about God yet. This is completely scriptural and very clear in Romans 9! God WILL have mercy on whosoever He wishes to have mercy on. God WILL make Himself known to whoever He chooses. This choice is not dependent on us but on God.

Rom 9:21 likens God to the Potter who can do whatever He likes to His clay.

False Christianity will tell you the clay has a role to play in the Potter's decision. How can? how possible?
lol.

But you see, there is something about God and the way He reveals Himself. He doesn't use the wisdom of this world but its foolishness. What the world term foolish is the very thing God uses to reveal Himself to man.

He takes pride in shaming atheists, philosophers,astronomists,etc The wise. There is always something out there for them to question. He looks down to see these so called wise ones display their ignorance and careless neglect of common sense and laughs. God laughs at the devices of men. They want to sort Him out without Him. How possible?

There is more...
Christianity EtcRe: The Reason Why Freewill Argument Fails To Explain Evil. by An2elect2(f): 2:48pm On Dec 03, 2014
Dapo777:
In fact ,me being born into this world isn't my freewill. I didn't decide to come into this world I just met myself in this world against my will.

I am not completely ruling out the existence of GOD I am skeptical about God's existence.

Lol man how is that question relevant to this discussion? When I came to nairaland last year January I was still a Christian, I saw nairaland as a good avenue for seeking help and getting suggestions on any life issues that was why I came to nairaland.
Lol there you go! you have exposed the 'freewill' lie yourself.

1.You came into this world against your will. Dang! Let me tell you something, Freewill can only be exercised when there are no factors(within or without) causing you to do something or act the way you act. Also, it can only exist when you have choices that are free too!
There is no how you came into this world without something causing it. Think about anything that caused your birth and that thing that caused th 'anything' and that thing that caused this and on and on.
If you didn't have free choice to choose to be born or not to be born there is no how you have free choices and freewill. You don't even have the freewill to choose to remain alive forever or to die some day. You are going to die someday. Where is your freewill then? You are bound by the laws of nature friend. You can boast of freewill when you break these laws.


2. Sceptical about God's existence? Where you born that way. If yes, you can't help it. You will just have to think that way. Now, i ask. If you are bound by that nature, how can you say you are free?
If no, something must have caused you to doubt. Your surroundings, the books you've read, your background,etc. Whatever it is something is definitely behind.

3.Okay.
You know what? you wouldn't have joined this Forum if it was not in existence and you didn't have a need. Some things drove you here. Your decision(what you erroneously believe to be freewill) was just the effect of something unseen but real.
Christianity EtcRe: Be Strong In The Grace That’s In Christ Jesus by An2elect2(f): 2:16pm On Dec 03, 2014
Gombs:
Because God loves him regardless
That is what you think. The scripture says God hates the wicked psalm11:5.
The love of God is in Christ Jesus. Rom 8:39.
Those outside of Christ do not have claim to this love.
They are only walking this world because of God's benevolence that is shown both to the righteous and unrighteous.



The gospel is complete, and guaranteed to ALL who believe, whether in this fallen world or unfallen (whatever that means). Stop being ignorant. [[/quote]]

The gospel you are preaching is not the gospel.
Hope you understand it this time.



He's alive, now and forever, and we're partakers of His grace, and share in His glory. Now, take not His grace in vain. The fact you claim to dislike Him and live, is a direct result of grace.[/quote]
Christianity EtcRe: The Reason Why Freewill Argument Fails To Explain Evil. by An2elect2(f): 12:44pm On Dec 03, 2014
Dapo777:
noun: freewill
1.
the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.
synonyms: self-determination, freedom of choice, autonomy, liberty, independence

Following that definition, everyone has freewill except those who believe in a deity that wants them to do the deity's will,those people don't have freewill they have been coerced to do the will of the deity and not theirs freewill is an illusion in religion. But I who don't believe in a deity, I have freewill because I don't act out of fear of hell or out of hope of heaven I do things according to my own will not influenced by any irrational beliefs.

Mind you,science is not my authority I am an independent person,I don't follow any dogma I am flexible.
Okay. Now am going to challenge your 'freewill' dogma with real life experiences: These questions will help.

1. At what point do humans begin to have 'freewill'? Is it before their birth or after their birth?
2. What caused you to deny the existence of God?
3.Why did you join Nairaland?
Christianity EtcRe: The Reason Why Freewill Argument Fails To Explain Evil. by An2elect2(f): 12:34pm On Dec 03, 2014
Emusan:
In fact the bolded part fall out of logic. How can man MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT FIRST THINK?

What is FREEWILL? FREEWILL is the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion or Free will is the ability to make choices without external coercion.

@bold-Now what is discretion? Discretion is the freedom to decide what should be done in a particular situation.
Again how can one make decision without first THINK?

In light of this can a man carried out any action without first REASON IT WITHIN HIM/HERSELF?



It's nothing more than power to make decision.



The only circumstances that influence our thought is what is going on around us and circumstances that consequently affect our decision is the result of our THOUGHT when we applied the POWER OF REASONING.

Truly, no scripture talks about freewill but we have many references within the scripture on how people used it.
You are contradicting yourself. If freewill is the ability to make choices without external coersion it means no man has freewill.

You can't think or make any decision without external or internal influences. Where is the freewill?

Why do you think they way you do? You don't have power over your thought processes. You can't originate any thought without being aided.
Common, do you want me to prove to you that there isn't any freewill ascribed to man with scriptures?
Christianity EtcRe: The Reason Why Freewill Argument Fails To Explain Evil. by An2elect2(f): 12:16pm On Dec 03, 2014
Dapo777:
Yes there is freewill but I don't believe GOD cares about the freewill of those that are tortured on earth unfairly, Which Ofcourse is not their will to be tortured
How did you come to the conclusion that there is freewill cos science does not back this claim?

Notice am addressing you as someone who does not believe in God or the authority of scripture.
Christianity EtcRe: Be Strong In The Grace That’s In Christ Jesus by An2elect2(f): 11:35am On Dec 03, 2014
Gombs:
Be strong in the Grace that is in Christ Jesus smiley
This kind of reply just made me smh sadly for you synagogue of satan ( what you call 'church) worshippers. It is because of you that the name of God is been blasphemed everyday.

How can any christian reply a hater of Christ in this manner? kai smh.
Christianity EtcRe: Be Strong In The Grace That’s In Christ Jesus by An2elect2(f): 11:28am On Dec 03, 2014
Gombs:
No mind frosbel and Pastor Kun...I'd tive them grace till July next year



What lies?
Your prosperity and divine health ish. These things are not guaranteed to believers in this fallen and wicked world. Stop misapplying scriptures here and there.
Christianity EtcRe: The Reason Why Freewill Argument Fails To Explain Evil. by An2elect2(f): 11:21am On Dec 03, 2014
Dapo777:
Give your points against mine.
Do you believe there is freewill?
Christianity EtcRe: The Reason Why Freewill Argument Fails To Explain Evil. by An2elect2(f): 11:14am On Dec 03, 2014
Dapo777:
See the silly excuses Christians give for their sky dad. The woman chose to roll on the floor crying? shocked shocked You are such a senseless individual. So if your mum gets beaten by thugs I am sure a nonsensical person like you would blame your mum for not fighting back. So you would blame your mum for getting beaten? Are you this dumb in real life? Or you are just acting dumb on nairaland? You are indeed a senseless person. angry
Yes his post is senseless but your stance against Christianity is pitiable.

Don't be too quick to label random people as Christians.
Christianity EtcRe: Church Refuses To Bury Member Because She Did Not Pay Her Tithes by An2elect2(f): 11:04am On Dec 03, 2014
Synagogue of Satan claiming to be a church.

What do you expect from satan and his ministers?
Christianity EtcRe: 14 Bible Verses That Indicate Jesus Is Not God by An2elect2(f): 10:55am On Dec 03, 2014
PastorKun:
The only conclusion I come to after reading this thrash is that you lack basic comprehension skills and that you are extremely very daft. No point debating with you.
Please can i ask you a question?

Who is the Word in John1:1?

Thanks in advance.
Christianity EtcRe: Be Strong In The Grace That’s In Christ Jesus by An2elect2(f): 10:46am On Dec 03, 2014
OP Stop these lies.
Christianity EtcRe: The Reason Why Freewill Argument Fails To Explain Evil. by An2elect2(f): 10:43am On Dec 03, 2014
Emusan:
I reply this post to educate you on the issue you know nothing about but thinking you know it all because this your analogy is poor and below logical reasoning.

Firstly, God wants to create and He did create all things.
Secondly, God also wants to create BEINGS much like Himself and He did create them.
Thirdly, the BEINGS who God wants to create MUST NOT BE/ACT AS A ROBOT.
Fourthly, so these BEINGS were created WITH POWER OF REASONING that is ability to perceive & receive instruction, and make a decision on those instruction.
Fifthly, God knows that this ability (POWER OF REASONING) can be misused so God placed a set of code i.e COMMANDMENT in between to guide any BEING how to make use of this ability.

The first BEING to misuse his POWER OF REASONING is LUCIFER.

I think as a rational being the argument you can bring to make you look logical should be, why would God create BEING with ABILITY TO REASON and couldn't give every detail about it?

So whosoever misuse his/her POWER OF REASONING decided to act contrary to the commandment of God.

In fact the second greatest commandment is love your neighbour as yourself, so if those thugs love the woman BY OBEYING THE COMMANDMENT of God would they beat her up as you described? Obviously NOT.

Finally, God knows BEINGS He endorsed with POWER OF REASONING can misuse it BUT He also place a commandment that guide them whether they're using it in a RIGHT way or in a WRONG way.

To ask why God then create them when He knows that they will misuse it, is to go against the decision of God which is "God wants to create".

I will now put this question to you, is it possible for MAN to prove the existence of evil wrong? that is it possible for MAN to start doing what we know as good?
Am a Christian but the ability to reason,perceive and receive instruction is not all that it is to possess the so called freewill.
Have you thought of the behind the scenes causes of this ability to reason,etc.
If there are circumstances that influence our thoughts and consequently our decisions, how can we say we have free will? I see no scripture that supports this phantom illusion called freewill.
Christianity EtcRe: The Reason Why Freewill Argument Fails To Explain Evil. by An2elect2(f): 10:03am On Dec 03, 2014
Dapo777:
A mother and her child were walking along a dark street,suddenly two harmed men came out and confronted them,one of the armed men took the child apart and the other one began to hit the woman,punching her really hard,pushed her on the floor and began to hit her, while her son watches in horror.
Meanwhile GOD is sitted on his throne watching this happen.
Me: GOD why don't you do something to stop this man from hurting the poor mother?
GOD: I am not supposed to stop him from harming the mother because that would be interfering with his freewill.
Me: So you want him to be able to exercise his freewill to decide by himself not to hurt the mother again,right?
GOD: Yes exactly.
Me: OK you have preserved the freewill of the man now.
GOD: Yes I have.
Me: What about the mother,is it her freewill to be beaten up by the man?
GOD: Hmmmm,no it's not her freewill.
Me: So that means you are in favour of the armed man's freewill and against the freewill of the mother.
GOD: it seems that way,but that's not how it is.
Me: since you care about everyone's freewill why don't you save the mother since She hasn't done anything wrong to deserve the beating?
GOD: I am not supposed to do that,I am supposed to remain hidden.
Me: So by splitting the red sea into two,turning water into wine,turning a stick into snake,making a tree catch fire without getting burnt,bring a whole human (Jesus) to be the saviour of the world is being hidden? So you would rather be hidden than save the poor woman.
GOD: shutup!!!!!! I am GOD how dare you question me? Don't you know my ways are mysterious! Human comprehension cannot understand me. Just shutup!!
Me: So why do we have the Bible then? Since we cant understand your ways.
GOD: am out! angry

Tag: theunusualmoon, Honourhim
What you talking about? there is nothing like freewill in Christianity.
The sovereignty of God demolishes any thought of freewill.
BusinessRe: CBN To Introduce Lower Denominations On Atms by An2elect2(f): 9:37am On Dec 03, 2014
onatisi:
thanks for this contribution. It seems most people still don't understand how the 65naira rule works.
Ya. I grab now and others will do same in time. One kind NLDer has explained to me already.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Speaking In Tongues For Christians Today? by An2elect2(f): 9:30am On Dec 03, 2014
CANTICLES:
" In the same way, unless you with the tongue use SPEECH THAT IS EASILY UNDERSTOOD, how will anyone know what is been said? You will, in fact, be speaking into the air" - 1cor 14:9 !!!
Lol Paul in this verse was admonishing them(us) to speak in the language that is known to all of them not in tongues that cannot be understood by the speaker or any other person for that matter.

"For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men but unto God: FOR NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM; howbeit in the Spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1Cor 14:2.

Speaking in this unknown tongues( not today's gibberish of course) edifies only the speaker not the church. Paul was saying that when the gather as believers, if anyone must speak in unknown tongue there must be an interpreter! and this interpretation of tongues is also a spiritual gift(1Cor 12:10).
If this unknown tongue is some language in this world, no need for the gift of interpretation then. Do you need the gift to interpret a foreign language to your tribes man?

When we want to prophesy or teach a doctrine to the church its far better we speak in the language understood by all. That way everybody will be edified.1Cor 14:3,4.
BusinessRe: CBN To Introduce Lower Denominations On Atms by An2elect2(f): 9:03am On Dec 03, 2014
femi4:
You have to use other banks ATM to experience it and the deduction start from your forth withdraw within a month
Oh! okay.
BusinessRe: CBN To Introduce Lower Denominations On Atms by An2elect2(f): 8:43am On Dec 03, 2014
smallJagaban:
IS THIS HOW THE EBO WILL GOVERN THEIR ECONOMY WHEN THEY ACTUALISE THEIR BIAFRA (IF POSSIBLE )?
Are you high? What has tribe got to do with this?
BusinessRe: CBN To Introduce Lower Denominations On Atms by An2elect2(f): 8:43am On Dec 03, 2014
smallJagaban:
IS THIS HOW THE EBO WILL GOVERN THEIR ECONOMY WHEN THEY ACTUALISE THEIR BIAFRA (IF POSSIBLE )?
BusinessRe: CBN To Introduce Lower Denominations On Atms by An2elect2(f): 8:41am On Dec 03, 2014
Adagba1:
CBN should stop deducting our 65 naira first before we belief them
I have been withdrawing lately and there has been no #65 deduction from my accountundecided BTW, i bank with UBA.
TravelRe: My Recent One-chance Experience Along Lagos/ibadan Express by An2elect2(f): 8:58pm On Dec 02, 2014
Oh!
RomanceRe: Six Things You Should Never Do For A Man Even When In Love by An2elect2(f): 8:51pm On Dec 02, 2014
nelly711:
Nice piece! But need I ask? How abt d place of submission? I seriously need constructive inputs.
Good question.
RomanceRe: Six Things You Should Never Do For A Man Even When In Love by An2elect2(f): 8:49pm On Dec 02, 2014
Louislewis:
This write-up was done by a woman that see herself as equal to a man. Please, I advice women to be careful with some of her points.
True.

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