European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:16am On Dec 03, 2025 |
Kilishihunter: You wan run Nico agenda like last week but God don catch you Remember what I said. Rodri was the butt of every joke. This is coming from people whose team paid £115m for a midfielder that couldn't pass a ball until this season. A player they excoriated. But somehow it is paining them that I said a £50m signing who is already showing more potential is a steal. I never like to get into it with people who are perpetually wrong. I let them run their agenda because it never lasts. Rodri is a BdO winner from DM. Let another club that has a similar player raise their hands so we can count. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:09am On Dec 03, 2025 |
Godx: Reijnders offers nothing defensively. I don't understand a Cm that cant get stuck in and challenge for balls. Cherki had more defensive contribution in those few mins he came on. With kovacic out till April and Rodri relapsing constantly, I am hoping those Anderson rumors in January are true. Anderson rumors are true but I doubt we go for him in January. Rodri isn't relapsing. I think Pep is focused on giving him more time to fully recover. We rushed him back if you recall. Its his thigh that has the issue. The hamstring has healed. Reijnders, Bernardo, Doku are quite lazy OOP. Literal training cones. Cherki has been equally poor but today he was EXCEPTIONAL. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:06am On Dec 03, 2025 |
popizaino: This is a pure lie.
If there's anything pep guardiola has gotten right,it is the signing of Donnaruma. I watch city game and i am marvel at what he does on weekly basis.
How he still followed that Barnes first goal against Newcastle still dey surprise me. Ederson plays against NUFC & City wins that game easily. You people should actually be watching the games not highlights. Donna made the same mistakes Pope made vs Arsenal. Invited pressure with his terrible passes during the buildup. Ederson would've pinged Doku & Erling free multiple times because of how NUFC pressed City. Its how he made an assist for Marmoush last season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:03am On Dec 03, 2025 |
Godx: To avoid another Palmer situation was why we didn't sell Savinho to Tottenham. I still have faith he will recover his girona and first season form. Savio is a RW. He can execute combo plays from LW but he's essentially useless when he's not crossing. The issue is, Marmoush doesn't have a 1st touch & Doku is lazy OOP. So when Pep wanted to take Doku off, he had to bring on another outlet. Marmoush cannot be it because he'll lose the ball with his 1st touch. So that's what Savio was brought on for. Savio also presses with intent. The issue is, his decision making is shambolic. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:59pm On Dec 02, 2025 |
Godx: He's only better than Ederson at shot stopping and even at that we are still conceding goals at a ridiculous rate. Dominating his box, collecting crosses, Calm under pressure Ederson was far better. Ederson was disrespected last season and scapegoated. No need to entertain lazy spectators. You're 100% right. Infact, this was the exact reason I didn't want Donnarumma. He saves us but many times its because of a mistake he himself made. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 6:18pm On Nov 12, 2025 |
This is from under that post in 2023 that reported Xavi didn't see Nico as a pivot. Many such comments. I don't want to bring comments from 2025 because it can be down to recency bias.
So what agenda again do I have?
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 6:12pm On Nov 12, 2025 |
From Barca fans.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:55pm On Nov 12, 2025*. Modified: 6:12pm On Nov 12, 2025 |
andrewbaba44: Maybe Eric Garcia refused to sign contract at city because Barca had a secret meeting with him to sign him for free 
Look at Eric Garcia impact are Barca now ,far better than what Nico Gonzalez is doing for city ,yet you won’t see Barca fans come and write newspaper and create agenda  Meanwhile, a player's potential isn't tied to age. Different reasons could stall anyone's development. Dembele still went on to win BdO but it is unlikely he'd have achieved it in Barca. However, nobody pans Xavi for Dembele simply because Xavi believed in him. That's the point I'm making. That had Xavi seen in Nico G what Pep had seen, there's no way you let that player go. No. Players like that you keep them till you develop them. That was my point. Nico isn't the finished product. So my post wasn't claiming he was. My post was hyping him for adapting to the role quickly. Its clear alot of you here just read and interact with each other's opinions that nobody goes to check what the actual facts are saying. City of this season isn't 24/25 season & Nico G is part of the reason. Check how many goals we've conceded compared to the team most people here thought will break Chelsea's record. Then compare attacks. What you'll find might surprise you. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:49pm On Nov 12, 2025 |
andrewbaba44: He called odegaard world class
He isn’t serious You for know say my main agenda for posting the link na about my star boy vs their own. Plus his assessment of Moises. I just wan tension dem some more.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:47pm On Nov 12, 2025 |
andrewbaba44: Maybe Eric Garcia refused to sign contract at city because Barca had a secret meeting with him to sign him for free 
Look at Eric Garcia impact are Barca now ,far better than what Nico Gonzalez is doing for city ,yet you won’t see Barca fans come and write newspaper and create agenda  You're giving personal opinion where simple evidence would be enough. Meanwhile, I am saying A & you're replying me with B. I don't rate Eric Garcia. But Pep did & wanted to keep him. Pep saw him as a CB that could play RB and DM when called upon. So Pep did not misprofile him. Eric left City just like Ferran left. They wanted to go back to Spain. Nico Gonzalez, unlike Eric, was categorized as advanced midfielder. That's the reason he wasn't trusted compared to some others. A player that YOUR OWN scouts had believed could become the next Busquets or Rodri. Isn't that bad talent ID from Xavi? Can't you see the difference between what I am saying & what you're saying? And why are you comparing Eric Garcia's so-called good performances to NicoG's? What's the correlation? Did I even compare Nico to any of your players? Where did the need to compare them come from? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 1:32pm On Nov 12, 2025 |
Marcel Desailly for the man dem. 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 1:12pm On Nov 12, 2025 |
Android22: No, I already responded. Some will say your education or lack of it has a done a number on you.
- Eric Garcia refused to sign a new contract at City. Which means City wanted to keep him. - Eric Garcia wasn't assumed to be a LB who couldn't compete with Mendy or Delph so he was told to find another club.
You don't have to keep digging yourself into a hole. 1. NicoG was told you won't get game time. You're not a DM. You're an 8/10 and others are better than you at it. Being compared to Eric Garcia as if Eric was rated like the next Puyol. And even at that, Pep still tried to keep the mofo. Even kept playing him all through 2019/20 when the defence was leaky. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 1:08pm On Nov 12, 2025 |
Android22: Like it wouldn't be easy to simply run any type of search on the claims made above to see if I made it up? I wonder why you lack the courage to do it.
Or Busquets and BdO winner Rodri aren't treated like the pinnacle of Central Defensive Midfielders?
Did you not see me post Barca B & others refer to NicoG's potential as Rodri-esque & Busquetsque? If you can find any reports on Caicedo with the same level of comparison that would have been an informed person's way of challenging that claim.
Mental bandwidth is important. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 1:07pm On Nov 12, 2025 |
Bimmarlykay: Pls stop,am getting angrier, imagine using Jong as DM now with no replacement.  I just don't have time to start searching out people's comments from the Barca thread. Same people who dragged Xavi to pieces are now here playing Ostrich because misery loves company. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 1:05pm On Nov 12, 2025 |
Bimmarlykay: We can't always have the same view.
Especially in agenda land.  I don't even want people to share my opinion. But at least debate it constructively & intelligently. Every argument has holes. I tend to respect people who can find the hole in any argument versus the mob squad of irate uninformed people who believe in hiding behind their collective wrongness. |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 3:31am On Nov 12, 2025*. Modified: 5:29am On Nov 12, 2025 |
You people don't know you must not respond to every post if you don't have the mental bandwidth to engage with it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 3:30am On Nov 12, 2025 |
StarchAndBanga: You that don't reply to argue, read the statement below and share with us in ur opinion how Man City stole Nico from Barca (knowing fully well City paid FC Porto 50M for him) If you pay 50M for a player whose potential is higher than Caicedo's that player isn't a steal? Who is going to sell a potential Sergio Busquets for 50M in this day & age? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 1:00am On Nov 12, 2025 |
Bimmarlykay: They replied to argue, rather than see what you're trying to say, and hence only saw 'steal', I believe. Trust me, its a regular day for me here.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:57am On Nov 12, 2025 |
Bimmarlykay: If I'm not mistaken,he said, 'basically stole from Barça due to Xavi's carelessness'.
Only that Porto executed the steal.
I'd add that we make blunders in almost every transfer,so it can be a steal for Porto or City(should Nico perform exceedingly).  Always relieving to see reasonable people that can actually read and comprehend. My point was Barca would've even sold him for more money if Xavi hadn't misprofiled him. That Nico's ceiling is higher than even I thought because I didn't know he'll pick up quickly. Even Rodri was benched by Pep in 2021 UCL final even though we signed him in 2019. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 6:00pm On Nov 11, 2025 |
Bimmarlykay: Android is quite right. How can I be right when I have been making up lies? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:57pm On Nov 11, 2025 |
Kilishihunter: Reijnders go soon cause havoc for your league. Give my boy some time. When Haaland was signed, on this thread oh, they discussed how he wasn't a Pep type player. They mocked him for missing a tap in versus Liverpool in the Community Shield. They rated Darwin Nunez better. On this thread oh. Not another one. Find out who was hyping him then and insisting the Football world committed a crime in letting that happen. Now what do you see? They are now arguing that City is Haaland FC. The other guy will start asking for his salary after every game. I'm used to this. It was the same way Rodri was the butt of every joke. Even mocked for not starting against CFC in the UCL final. Today, their analysis about City is contingent on Rodri. Again, e no be today. I know the game. They'll soon argue how Pep always signs established players. The Nico G fee will be used to defend the argument. Just wait till May 2025. Nothing is new here. Its the same cowards. Arsenal will thrash City at the Emirates. Only Liverpool and Arsenal are competing for the league this season. Remember those comments oh. They'll walk it back. Now na me dey overdo. LOL |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:47pm On Nov 11, 2025 |
MorataFC: Interesting take. But using your logic, should we then say Pep was careless for letting Cole Palmer leave Manchester City, considering how well he’s developed elsewhere?
Please answer with yes or no ,I have a phobia of long epistles. Pep saw Palmer in an unfavored position & used it as the pretext to sell him? You know Palmer was begging to go on loan for fear he wouldn't get many starts but Pep told him to stay and compete for Riyad's minutes? In other words, Pep wanted Palmer to stay but Palmer was afraid he wouldn't break into the team. Is that the same situation I've been presenting for Xavi & Nico G? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 2:53pm On Nov 11, 2025 |
Yet, if another club signed Busquets for cheap and developed him into the world's best DM that he was for many years. They will later be told by people who don't even know how to read, that the manager wasn't careless with the talent. Even when that manager has now been fired by the club. Things we read here.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 2:47pm On Nov 11, 2025 |
Sergio Busquets, that many regard as the finest pivot for the best footballing team started out as center back. If Pep had misprofiled him, he may have become a nothing burger. Sold off for scrap. Maybe even told he couldn't compete with Gerard Pique and co. But it takes a better manager, with better talent ID to truly see the potential of a player and develop him adequately.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 2:34pm On Nov 11, 2025 |
Gucciboy: One good game and Nico is suddenly a steal,where was him at CWC? Where was Nico since the season began? One good game. Alright. Nico G isn't good. CFC, LFC and AFC are better than City. Thanks. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 2:33pm On Nov 11, 2025 |
AirBere: Chief, nobody steal Nico ooo lol. What happened to him is very normal at professional footie lol.
The buzzword you're using to drive home your point is "miss profile" but the fact is that he wasn't stolen. The coach at the time (Xavi) just didn't rate Nico both as a DM and as a CM and quite rightly so. As we speak, he's not better than Dejong(DM) and Pedri(CM) meaning had he stayed, he'll just be bench piece like them Casado, Bernal and co. Leaving was the best thing that happened to him and his situation is pretty normal in football. Not unique at all.
These are just facts. I mean players like KDB, Salah, Palmer, Eto'o, Guehi, Nico Gonzalez, Hakimi, Pogba, Thiago, Pique, Saliba all had to leave in order to achieve their potential elsewhere. Of course some returned home.
Talk about misprofiling.... 1. Nico made his professional debut under Koeman and was not rated as a DM....played as interior along with Busquet. 2. Xavi met Nico and didn't rate him as a DM 3. Loan at Valencia, he wasn't rated as DM as Gulimano was always the preferred choice. He was in and out of the team even as a CM. 4. Porto manager didn't rate him as a DM and had Varela as DM. In fact, in most matches, Nico was not even part of the double pivot and was often played as the AM with Verala paired with another CM(Marko Grujic)
At professional level, Nico has played under 4 different managers and only Pep(his 5th manager) rates him as a DM. Of course, I trust Pep's judgement. However, if/when Rodri returns and back to his best, Nico will most likely play alongside him at CM/interior or benched. This has nothing to do with my post. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:54am On Nov 11, 2025 |
Read the comments under this post from BARCA fans. Look at the date. Many of the Barca fans there despised Xavi for doing this. But today, I'm now told Barca fans don't remember him and that I made lies up. You people actually think every one is here to drink low quality information and spew lazy takes.
LOL
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:46am On Nov 11, 2025 |
If the assessment of a player is like this, will you let him leave for cheap? No.
If any manager truly believed any player had potential to be Rodri or Busquets, will they misprofile him & play him in roles both players don't play in?
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:40am On Nov 11, 2025 |
For Nico G's potential, he is a steal. If comprehension isn't your strong suit, ask people to explain things to you.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 1:56am On Nov 11, 2025 |
AirBere: So very similar to how Mourinho let KDB and Salah go.....
Nico wasn't stolen chief and his situation is not unique at all. Coaches constantly make decisions based on what they feel is best for the team. Some work, some don't. He would've turned to Sergi Samper or Oriol Busquet and other lamasia players had he stayed. Best thing was leaving whether Xavi misprofiled him or not, he had to leave. Even as a DM, he was not gonna start ahead of Dejong at Barca. As an interior, Pedri clears him. He had to go!!!
Whichever way sha.....that's that. 😴 How can it not matter that a player is misprofiled if the so-called replacements have since left the club as failures? Meanwhile, Xavi also misprofiled Dejong and played him in advanced roles multiple times. But I digress. I think you're comparing Apples to Oranges in this post. Which is exactly why you've been replying me a little off tangent. For e.g Mourinho didn't misprofile Salah or KdB. He simply preferred others for the same role. That is not the point being made. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:38am On Nov 11, 2025 |
Jamiuokolaa: Didnt Barca insert a buy-back clause abi na another Nico we dey talk about here? They did but because they knew they were selling him for dirt cheap to Porto. Like I said, Barca believed in him but were hurting financially and needed to sell off players. But Xavi's carelessness was in misprofiling Nico. Xavi saw him as not capable of replacing Sergio and of course, that meant he was competing with players for that 8 role that were better than him. Had Xavi considered him a potential 6, he wouldn't have gone for Romeu who ended up being a bust. That has been my point. Xavi misprofiled the player. Edit: it was more of a sell-off clause. |