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CFC - Club World Champions - remain the undoubted favorites to win the EPL & UCL this season. Next should be Liverpool since the consensus here in July was that their squad is set + they're the previous champions. Arsenal should be 3rd favorites: Eze is a very good player but they're mostly going to play him off the left side which means he's going to be their own version of Jack Grealish; a CAM who wouldn't displace OdG as the 10 or Rice as the 8 so he'll have to be played at LM or LW for the most part.

By the way, how many trophies had Pep won when City spent £1 bln? I remember we were told that time that he'd won all those trophies due to his spending. The energy should be maintained.

Godx:
Cc Android17

What's your take on City interest in Rodrigo if Savinho is sold for £70million. I don't rate him that highly and with such big fee plus wages he will demand to start every game. I really want to see more of Cherki, Marmoush, Bobb and Foden. I would rather keep Savinho who is clearly talented but needs room to improve. Savinho only season in la Liga at 19 he had 19 goals and assists. Rodrygo's best season is 17.

My personal opinion: Pep wants a smaller squad so we're unlikely to replace Savio if we sell him to THFC.

Per Rodrygo, he's a better finisher than both Jeremy Doku & Savinho put together but nobody's going to pay €100m (with high wages) for a player that RM consider surplus to requirements.

Savinho clearly wants the THFC move because he's on £40k per week & apparently THFC want to triple that. There's also the motivation most Brazilians have about living in London vs rainy Manchester. To that end, I believe we are going to sell him.

I'd rather go for Livramento to sign that surefire RB but if we are to get a winger, then let it be Akliouche of Monaco instead of Rodrygo. However, if we were to get him, I wouldn't pay more than €80m for the latter. I'd even say closer to €70m since RM will get desperate towards the close of the window.

Amigoss:
Even if he hands in the TR,the onus is still on Newcastle to accept,what Newcastle has shown so far is their unwillingness to entertain any offers,110 is enough to start a negotiation if they were open to selling him...

If NUFC refuse to accept the T/R thats another credit to Isak in claiming broken promises. It will mean he was willing to lose money to facilitate his leave but NUFC rejected it. £110m isn't any reason to start any negotiations bros, it is £40m lower than what NUFC say is their valuation of the player.

Amigoss:
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Ohhhh,I can see how Ademola who handed in a TR is now chilling in Milan because it gave inter milan the leverage to bid lower to their valuation and not Atalanta's asking price....

Obviously, Atalanta don't want to sell to Inter or maybe they feel some other team can outbid them. Not the same issue with Isak since Lookman's contract potentially expires in 2026 & Atalanta had agreed to sell for €40m. They had rejected PSG in 2024 at €25m so the player is partly right about how he's being treated. Unlike Isak.

Bluelines69:
Well he should hand in a transfer request and be done with it , doesn’t want to honour his penned down contract there’s definitely no “loyalty” in that, guess he’d really need to show Liverpool he really wants them and them alone by handing in that request

He needs to hand it in to show he's fully committed to leaving NUFC. He's clearly not & simply trying to hedge just incase his move doesn't materialize. LFC on the other hand are not £150m committed about signing him. That's why they low-balled £110m as their only bid thus far.

Bluelines69:
Put it in writing, they have agents and advisers and none of them could clock it that what if there’s a change in administration?

His current contract was signed in 2022 for 6 years. The new contract discussed was last year not 2 years ago. The DoF that promised him a bump left the club & NUFC are constrained from going that high (close to £300k per week) based on PSR. Isak knows all this.

He won't hand in a transfer request because he'll lose out on loyalty bonuses & some salary freeze that are paid yearly probably up to £15-20m a year. However, if he did hand in one, it will give LFC reasonable grounds to bid that amount less than the £150m NUFC want for him.

Altern8tor:
All correct.... We keep raising the bar for players till nature or accident happens to them... These players can only achieve their glory ahead by the grace of Almighty God... Jesus is Lord 🙏

Exactly. Health is important. How good will R9 have been if he didn't have those injuries? Maybe he wins more BdO's than CR7 but less than Messi?

Mourinho rates him AFTER Messi for e.g and he has coached CR7.

Another word for ceiling is PRIME.

That's why we compare X player's (for e.g) Maradona's prime to Y player's (e.g) Messi's Prime.

So my statement was saying City Academy reports projected that Oscar's prime will be higher than Palmer's.

Whether it ends up being true is what time till tell.

drisham:
Android17

I maybe owe you and apology

I wasn't familiar with Oscar bob's game

1. Palmer is currently the better player. I said so.
2. Oscar Bobb's ceiling is higher. I said the same City scouts that watched both for the Academy said so.

I'm pointing this out to some of the posters above who probably have comprehension challenges.

For context, Messi was already playing in 2007 when Kaka won the BdO over him & CR7. It will be accurate to say Kaka was a better player than Messi in 2007. However, many people already could tell Messi's ceiling (peak, apogee, max potential, upper-limit, zenith, pinnacle, apex etc) was going to be higher.

Whether Oscar goes on to live up to it is yet to be determined. Lars Ricken was supposed to be a better player than Ballack ever was but injuries ended his career.

Remember Ansu Fati? Injuries did same to him. Many thought he was going to be the next best 10 for Barca.

Not every goal must have an assist.

Know this. Know peace.

Silentgroper:
You play weak PSG

The other play re-energised PSG , drew and lost to penalty ..





So therefore Tottenham>>>>>Chelsea ..

. CL go soon start, fowl nyash go open soonest

Nah, this is PSGs first pre-season game. THFC have played like 4 already.

Your last sentence still counts though as well as the EPL this season that CFC are favorites for.

diggz:
Is this you channeling Dr. Umar? 😂

LOL. Nah, Kbot Lamar from that wack song "BotLikeUs".

lordfalcao:
Just type congratulations and move on. Your shalaye after going MIA for 3 weeks don show say you are a woman of your words.

The difference is, I wouldn't have noticed it if you didn't post for 3 weeks. You're a fan, you're a fan, you're a fan, I get it.

If you don't have a fitting response to my post, you don't have to quote me.

TemporaryHansel:
You made solid points here. Anyone not driven by emotion or pushing an agenda can see it’s all factual.

Your only flaw was the heavy agenda you ran before that match, though honestly, I can’t fully blame you. Even some so-called Chelsea fans doubted their own team against PSG. I remember clearly, some of them were saying, and I quote, “Maresca shouldn’t go band for band with them, just stay low and avoid a heavy loss.”

My question to Chelsea fans is simple: if you don’t rate your team, why should anyone else? Respect starts from within. When you consistently undervalue your own players efforts, don’t be surprised when others follow suit. In life, how you carry yourself is how people treat you.

Bros, I no get any agenda vs CFC. I came to give my own analysis. Just like BTC, I could be down 1 week and be up the next week.

If I even remotely have any agenda, it's been with regards to Iceman Palmer and I mostly troll him when they hype him beyond his achievements.

I've said it multiple times, if I believe Pep is the best manager ever, I can't turn around and keep giving excuses every season when he wins nothing. Blaming the board, the sporting director, the players but never Pep himself. That's like exerting a lot of Force on an object but experiencing no displacement; it doesn't work.

These ones want to have their cake and eat it. Call their players BdO but shield them from the expectations attributed to BdO winners. When I'm chanced, I'll come here to rubbish it.

PS: This was the post that kept getting removed.

First, Congratulations to Chelsea and Palmer but why am I getting all these mentions? I've argued that your players are better than you give them credit for, and that Palmer has to win things by deciding them for your team before getting all the plaudits he didn't deserve.

Now that he has passed phase 1, will you maintain your argument or concede that you were making excuses for him?

Incase the poser is lost, let's recycle the discussion so we can know where things currently stand:

1. If your team is good enough to beat PSG in a final, you're good enough to win the EPL. True or False?
2. Sanchez, Neto, Enzo, Gusto etc aren't the frauds you guys claimed they were - so you won't turn around to blame them when Palmer doesn't live up to the hype. True or False?
3. Maresca is a genius. The best manager ever. So you won't also blame him if your season torpedoes and he is summarily fired. Remember, this is the same way you guys hyped Tuchel after '21 but then switched up to excuse him when he didn't win the EPL in '22.
4. Palmer is world best. Again, shouldn't you expect the world best to will his team to win the EPL? Therefore, if your team doesn't win the EPL, you wouldn't have any excuses - no?

What are the terms? Let's have it in writing.

Ibime:
100%

Actually the definition of press resistant is turning a man when there are no passing options and Jorginho is 0% at that one

In the most technical sense, yeah, that's the definition. But I think the term has kind of evolved.

Leyqute:
Jorginho has been maligned so much on this board that you guys (his fans) jump to defend him at any small thing.

Jorginho’s positioning and movement doesn’t beat Vitinha’s. Period.

Look at PSG’s 3rd goal vs Inter in the UCL final.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FtyJxoOHUCA


Did you see how Vitinha was scanning before and after he recieved the ball in one part of the pitch before carrying it with the outside of his foot for a considerable distance, cutting out almost half of the opposition team, before curling a deceptive run, receiving the back heel from Dembele and assisting Desire Doue?

That line of action required a proper dose of vision, positioning, football intelligence, and passing technicality.

How many times have you seen Jorginho drop shoulder to beat his man? Come back when Jorginho does this at the highest level.

Jorginho is a good player o, but there are things he no dey do.

Vitinha's greatest attribute is his press-resistance. That's why he splits the defense to receive the pass first from Donnarumma when PSG are about to progress the ball. Truth is, Jorginho was also press-resistant but unlike Vitinha who is doing everything you've said above, Jorginho could only evade the press by passing rightly. In other words, he depended on the movement of the players around him. If nobody made the right outlet, Jorginho will lose the ball.

In Vitinha's case, even without the right movements around him, he'd simply manipulate the ball out of the press. Harry Kane tried severally to press him against Bayern but it was futile. Enzo is alot like Jorginho in needing movements around him to evade the press. But he's showing that Gundogan tendency to arrive into the box at the right times to score, and if he sees an outlet in the attacking third, he doesn't hesitate to make that pass. He's more like Fabregas but with less of Cesc's imagination.

Finishius really thought he was a BdO winner ya know.

Kvaradumbguy. Seems you've been watching Pedro's goal on repeat.

Lure them out.
Let them think they're holding possession.

Humiliate them.

Unlimited22:
Do you know you're just a wicked person?

As wicked as that Abuja land-grabber.

Dembele & Hakimi still have a goal in this game.

Fabulous Ruiz for a reason.

Trevor012:
That's why he will lose to Chelsea. Thunder will fire him

Trevor012:
Soo Enrique purposely told them to go easy on Inter Miami. Nonsense

Enrique is a cule at heart. We love Messi. We hate RM.

It's in our blood.

Madrid have been beaten blue-black, you'd think they represented Inter.

User09:


Well, I did say limit the damage. Didnt !?

You're not the culprit. Just scan the past few pages.

Same way Gooners were making noise.

Lana1:
It's always sweet forming analyst on Nairaland until they play the match and your guys press just as you want and they still lose

I just dey bite my tongue.

The most self-unaware fans in history.

Unlimited22:
Barca fans say Balde better pass am o

Not in this world or in the world to come.

He can legit win BdO in future. He's that good.

Nuno Mendes.

What a player.