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Agadinaagwuofe:
Ok..

Yea. The best and most intelligent player is clearly KdB but the most important is Walker. Technically, Cancelo is the best player. Mahrez has the best first touch. Walker is the quickest. Bernardo has the best lungs and the most press-resistant. The best upward lift is Aké. Haaland is the strongest player and best finisher. Alvarez best presser. etc etc.

nitrogen:
Conte was available before they brought Rafiu Abi na wetin be the guy name.

This is really sad!

But the board hesitated for a while and then Tottenham fired Nuno so they hired Conté. Zidane had said no to England and the only meaningful options were ETH and Poch.

FirstbornWds:
Poch is not a top coach. Forget

He can't manage big name players. That is his weakness. He did well in Español, Southampton and Tottenham.

Expert17:
My 1st choice was Conte

2nd was Pochetino.

This bald head fit be scam

Yea Conté would have been the first choice but at that time I don't think he was available. The debate was ETH vs Poch.

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Expert17:
It's De Gea fault.

Both goals

Yea I don't know why he passed to Eriksen that was already getting pressed.

I recommended Pochettino.

ETH will still improve o. But I just wanted to remind you guys that I recommended Pochettino.

Nna mehn. De Idiat don make another mistake.

andrewbaba44:
2 goals and 1 assist in 2 games

Be there looking for agenda

If he ends up as top scorer I won’t be surprise not to see him there ,they might even put Fabinho as striker to just make Liverpool smile

You better rest with your dead agenda

The guy knows his audience sha. He can't go to more intelligent threads to type nonsense as they will chew him to bits but you know the thread we are in...

Expert17:
The same Liverpool that went on a 30-years EPL drought?

Talk another one

You get time for dummies. People who don't know the meaning of the construction "positionless player".

Agadinaagwuofe:
Well... I still think it is arguable, cancelo brings a lot to the game and he seems more complete a footballer than Kyle walker, aside pace and recoveries, he shoots better, dribbles better, controls better and passes better. In my ranking on pep set up, aside De Bruyne, cancelo comes next, any match without the two, even if it is against championship side I can wager for draw against Man city but as long as both are involve I can wager win even if city is 2 goals down at half time. Cancelo is so good in Man city

Alot of what you are saying is correct. I am not saying Walker is better than Cancelo etc. I am saying in scale of importance, Walker is ahead of KdB. He is the most important to how City have been playing especially between last 2 seasons and this current one. The person talking to you is a City fan.

Jodera:
Him don dey graduate from positionless small small ooo

Did he score 4 goals today?

Agadinaagwuofe:
If you talk about technicality I agree but if it is about functionality I disagree, Cancelo is soo important in Pep set up, he always act as the Ace card when all other option has gone wrong. That guy "footballing ability" no be here.

You are right but Cancelo is not the most important player to the current setup. It is Kyle Walker.

BlueAngel444:
lol own assists u mean Vardy?

No. Assist where ball mistakenly touched a player and went to another player that scored. Fulham's first match of this season.

Expert17:
I saw what you did there

A club with Firm-No-Goal can't mock Haaland

Silly c×nts, those ones.

Amoto94:
I will say Bernardo edges him slightly but it's a tough call.

Not true.

Segedinho:
wch kind nonsense excuse be this

Do you know that it is worse to have less than 10 touches in Pep's set up than Tuchel's.

This is not true. Haaland is not there for his touches. He will have to drop deep to get many touches which will defeat the aim for why he is so good. In this game Bournemouth had no intention of coming out of the back so Haaland had to be a decoy for late runners like Gundogan to do the damage. Stop watching City like your average monkey post team. Almost everything we do is by design.

BlueAngel444:
it's not about the touches but about the impact. City are winning, were Chelsea not winning till Tuchel's brain went to mess.

Pep showing he can adjust when necessary

You should not be typing these type of intelligent post to some olodos. They want to mock Haaland in a game he got an assist. An intentional assist not like some strikers that are being credited for own goals and even own assists. lol

Oga read and learn.

Grey highlight shows FELLOW Players decide the award for top 3 players.

Yellow shows the team of the year list is selected by PFA.

Green is bonus for fan's list.

Ask yourself why. It is because the fellow players =/= PFA. Fellow players is a subset of PFA because PFA includes current and former players as well as "scholars". Which team will they be biased towards? You have your answer.

As you can see, the PFA selected that team which is why they voted Liverpool players more. But when only current players voted, they voted Son and not (Mané). Q. E. D.

Learn from the best. Sorry not sorry.

Jodera:
Speak for yasef

Bernado actually send, na why him dey rant

Nah he was just repeating what Pep had said late into last season. You can tell that Pep uses it to motivate his players. Remember he [Bernardo] made the list.

Jodera:
Was he a first teamer or not? He is. simple.

Mahrez last season isn't. I don't know whether you're deliberately just mixing up certified first teamer to number of appearances just to gain ground.

Did Salah not start some games on the bench last season? Why are you comparing apples and oranges my guy? I am not arguing for Jesus or Sterling. I brought up Mahrez and Laporte. I did not bring up Walker who is a starter because objectively TAA was better. Na you suppose understand the argument. Mahrez was a first team starter. That he started some games on the bench does not even play any role especially when the argument is not supposed to be subjective; who performed better?

Jodera:
That you don't believe 1+1 is not two does not make it wrong.

1+1 = 2 is an objective argument. But someone is telling me what if one of the 1s was not happy will it still agree to be added to the other 1 to get 2? That is what your argument is implying.

Maybe if you were the PFA you would have said Liverpool should win the league because 6 of their players impressed you regardless of the fact that they had less points than City.

Like I said before, we no send dem [awards] we don't give a blood clot. . .

Jodera:
How many did Cancelo play as a RB compared to Lb? Cos most games I watched he was mostly RB.

Thiago was an automatic starter same as Rodri. I was always insisting on cut and chop and that's for those who aren't sure starters even when fit like Sterling, Jesus, Mahrez dem.

No wonder you have been all over the place. Cancelo mostly played as the LB anyone who watched City should know that.

KdB was player's player of the year the season before last. See if your first team jibber jabber argument works for him. I doubt he even played up to 25 games that season. lol

Jodera:
Maybe you must be living in Disneyland if you think a team winning a competition automatically means most of the players in that team must be up for awards. There's a reason why it's called award and it's for specifically individual performances. And yes, a player's Performance might not reflect in his team result but that's what this award is made for — to recognise 'that' performance even in the midst of shambolic display by his teammates.

Awards are mostly subjective. I don't know why you'd say it isn't. Nobody will begrudge PFA for giving Salah the best player's award even though his team didn't the league. That's the individual performances at play here.

And the bolded matters. If he's that good as you claim he won't be coming from the bench. No coach puts their best players more on the bench than starting lineup and if Mahrez can't consistently start game in his team, the sorry he's not fit to be in EPL best 11 except of course the other teams 19 players in his position underwhelms too which is practically impossible.

And please, don't misinterpret me na. I didn't say only three Man city players are top performing. I just said the 3 players are the best in their position. The other city players are top performing but unfortunately another player in another team might outperform them individually. That doesn't mean they're not top performing.

Eg Like Laporte might have a top Performance
Of 9.0 but Rudiger might edge him with 9.3. It doesn't mean Laporte was a flop or he didn't perform or that the 9.0 can't make one win the league, he was just a bit unfortunate that Rudiger outperform him. Simple.

Sorry I don't do subjective nonsense. If you have fine points to make delineate them. All that "if you are this good..." is foolish talk. If I play 3 minutes from the bench and score a hattrick, I did better than someone who started and scored one. I won't even bother touching the Rudiger talking point as well, since it is just drivel.

Meanwhile, I am not offended that Laporte or Mahrez did not make the team lol. They should even remove all the City players entirely. I just wanna see City winning and making haters mad.

The whole point was, you don't have enough facts to challenge Bernardo and that is where the penny drops.

Nezzjnr:
The same way Buhari Fans were busy hurling insults at those who were supporting Jonathan is the way Obi Fans are also hurling insults at Tinubu Fans.

You people shouldn't complain.

This one na Karma at work


As for me I get pressing issues at my Useless club

This is not true and you know it. You are merely regurgitating the same Obidient talking points. I am not saying you are one of them though.

Of course, you would find extremists every now and then in any camp. But the general disposition and demeanor of most obi-diots is cantankerousness, belligerence and pugnacity.

The players voted the top 3 best players in the league.

Salah number 1, KdB number 2 and Son number 3.

Then those same players are "voting" for the team of the season but the 3rd best player in the league won't be on the team and someone is arguing that the team was voted for by the same players, how na?

Jodera:
it does and it's a big contributing factor. There's a reason all three of you guys representatives are sure starters in the midst of cut and chop system. I sympathize with Rodri cos I believe he suppose to make it 4.

Imagine that they have to even shift Cancelo to Lb position just because of Arnold and his performances even though Cancelo he played as RB most times. Now imagine that he's not a starter but coming from bench once in a while and starting once in 2 matches, do you think he'll have what it takes to displace a regular Robertson in that Lb position with the latter's performance last season?

I don't think so

Cancelo played LB more last season. As for the contributing factor, I have already shown you that it does not when results are compared. Was that not the justification (unjustified IMHO) for Thiago who played less games than Rodri?

AnfieldFan:
Do you have any proof PFA team of the year is voted for by players...I don't want to take your word for it...I wasn't sure before but this clearly has PFA Team of the year and it says Players vote for it... Premier League, Championship etc...
Just get me a link or something...

You are asking me a wrong question already. You have not even provided any proof that the players vote the team. You only showed that the union and players vote those who get the awards.

I have now shown beyond any doubt that if the players voted the team, Son who was 3rd in the award will be on the team abi no be so? The logic is not hard. I can still give you a link but you don't have to pretend I am just asking you to take my word for it. Take your own evidence for it. Show me Son on the team so I can rest my case.

Jodera:
I don't think that's a given. Both of them performed well and even if you even check/watch deeper maybe Rudiger have more correct performances than Laporte last season. While team might help Laporte (clean sheet and all) but individually, Rudiger was a beast. Aerially, defensive-wise and even his passes wasn't slack. Nobody can dispute Rudiger name not being there. Lai lai


Mahrez is another reason why I'm talking about instability in team. Why will I choose/consider Mahrez as EPL team of the season when there a better performances from others elsewhere and sometimes he comes from the bench even if fit. It doesn't work that way bro

I don't do subjective arguments. That is exactly why you cannot challenge what Bernardo said which is what led to this conversation. Rudiger was playing when his team conceded more than Laporte's team. VVD conceded the same number of goals as Laporte. Laporte now won the league but you say no other players should make it. Then Mahrez scored and assisted more in less games but you say he was coming off the bench to score sometimes. How does it matter? Is it better to start a game and score 1 goal in that game or to come on 20 minutes to the end and score 2? Who performed better?

That is why I said performances are judged not who started and all that stuff.

Don't forget that if only 3 of City players were top performing, then how can you explain how they got to win the league against another team that had 6 players top performing? And how would you explain how the Manager of the 6 is manager of the year compared to the manager who got the best out of only 3 of his players yet won the league?

AnfieldFan:
Thiago is in PFA Premier league team of the year....Is this particular award not player voted?

It is not. I don't know how many ways I should prove it to you. Was Son not 3rd on that award for players' player of the year? So how is he 3rd in the voting but somehow missing from the team?

Jodera:
Shey I just explained it to you na?

Abi you no see the answer ni? Abi you just no wan accept am

You brought up tinkering and stable first team and I said nobody judges that but performances.