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Kloppo:
And it was not easy for Klopp to sway voters after closing in on 14points after being the best for so long but almost had heartattack for 75mins on the last day?

City went 14 points ahead a day before Liverpool played Brentford by beating Chelsea 1-0. Liverpool had 2 games to play.

They beat Brentford 3-0 making the deficit 11. Their outstanding game was against Leeds that you won 6-0 which means City were only 8 points ahead.

And Klopp didn't win the league.

Kloppo:
But he didn't lose unlike Pep that lost to a top4

And still got more points against the top 4 than Liverpool.

Kloppo:
Did kdb win most assists using midfielders metrics?

When Modric won WPOTY did he have the most assists? How many assists did Zidane ever have in his whole career?

KdB was instrumental to his team winning the league. He was the best player in the EPL since February and February to May was the most competitive point in the season.

It is easy to see why voters were swayed by his performances. Salah was the best from Aug- January but sadly he faded when it mattered most.

The manager without the best attackers, best defenders, best keeper.

Somehow scored the most goals (99) and was tied for the best defence (26). This is with City conceding 4 goals in their last 2 games.

What excuse do you people have again? I want all the smoke.

Kloppo:
What are you on about? 3rd best goals conceded in the history of EPL,most cleanshot,lost only one game and denied invincible by goal clearance and Kompany not seeing a red after a stamp on Salah...

Recognised by UEFA,FIFA best that same season,de Bruyne? Jorginho was more recognised last season ahead of him

Same criteria used to award John terry

So he did not have more goals and assists than Aguero?

So defenders are judged by a different criteria than attackers?

Good. Now use the same metric to judge KdB viz-a-viz Salah. Thanks

hensben:
how did someone that have been injured play. lol

lol

Injured.

andrewbaba44:
Klopp that could not win any top 4 team this season

Liverpool were ahead of City by November. People should always remember that when they quote "14 pt deficit".

City had the smallest squad.
No recognizable striker.

If Grealish is a flop, it means he played no role in City winning the league which means City used the same squad from last season.

Kyle Walker out. Stones out. Dias out. Fernandinho Centreville back. Mendy out. KdB out earlier in the season. Gundo was in and out of injuries.

Ederson could barely make a save.

They say Foden did not deserve Premier League young player. KdB did not deserve it. Bernardo Silva did not make the nomination.

And Klopp is better.

But somehow City still won the league.

What is the next excuse?

obonujoker:
When did he do the domestic treble??

2018/19

98 points in the league, 6-0 against Watford in the FA Cup final and PK against Chelsea in the Carabao cup.

There are levels to this thing.

andrewbaba44:
You should quote raumdeuter and ask him jare

By this I guess Ronaldo should be epl player of the season

Gabriel Jesus scored more goals than Ronaldo in April, assisted more and his team won all their games. Ronaldo won only 1 game against Norwich. Player of the month.

hensben:
Like Grealish didn't flop.

He played better than Hazard has ever played for RM.

andrewbaba44:
That’s what they have been expecting from guardiola

Can’t we call last season which city won the league with 12 point difference a social distance ?

They should keep the awards, we will keep the rewards.

Kloppo:
Premier League player of the Month awards;
Aug - Antonio
Sep - Ronaldo
Oct - Mo Salah
Nov - Trent
Dec - Sterling
Jan - De Gea
Feb - Matip
Mar - Kane
April - Ronaldo

Top goalscorer - Mo Salah/Son
Top Assists - Mo Salah

POTY - KDB

Is it not unfortunate that a midfielder is not only judged by G/A, kind of like VVD when he won it in 2018/19?

raumdeuter:
Is this SK speaking or Loud or Colorado

If first is not the best Maybe Leeds should have been awarded the trophy then or someone who finished 6th should have been given the winners medal

"kLoPp DeSeRvEs It".

Finish 2nd and play 2 cup finals on PKs before you win it. Compared to a manager that has already done the domestic treble.

lol

Curry took 2 games from The San Antonio Spurs. In game 1, he dropped 44 and Pop decided to box and one him. That same SAS team absolutely destroyed Lebron and the Heatles 4-1 in the NBA finals in one of if not the most 1-sided NBA finals in modern history.

You people's nonsense is not new here.

Havertz10:
the issue here isn’t that she was killed by Ipob but that there is little outcry over the fact that something like that happened, reinforcing the notion that the only reason Deborah death got so much attention wasn’t because a human being was killed barbarically but because Muslims were defending their religion

I mean, I agree with you in part because that is how it works. If a Muslim man kills his girlfriend in a fit of rage, even if she was Ogboni, it will not be treated as a religiously provoked murder so the hoopla will be less. To add to that, there will be a general consensus about how diabolical the act was and many will expect the full powers of the law to deal with him.

But when you have a religiously provoked killing, it will always be polarizing because you will see fellow murderers who are excited by the killing because of their religious alignments. You cannot meaningfully expect the same level of outcry when religion is not involved.

To make the comparison between a terrorist attack and a religious one is largely disingenuous for the proponents of such arguments. That is false equivalency on overdrive. IPOB are equal opportunity offenders. That lady did not need to be Muslim or a northerner to get killed. Look at most of the other IPOB murders to see this.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I really wanted him to see that, and understand that IPOB is a serious problem to the Easterners.

These guys have been killing Easterners for a long while, so it is not a religious killing.

Our Chief Imam here has been going about looking for sympathizers, so I say make I just clear the air small[/color]

lol

Thanos:
Doncic is the only person in the top 10 that is not a big man. For real though. You guys do not watch mavs ball so it's understandable. Just stop using analysts narrative to debate a player's capabilities. Someone watching skip bayless would think lebron james is a scrub.

There is reason I stopped posting here, when people are cornered they change the arguments completely. I don't need any data showing me that Luka posts up more than Curry for e.g. We got to this point because I showed you one of the ways Jokic was more versatile in scoring than Luka. Bringing up his post up stats do nothing to your argument unless they show that he did them better than Jokic. Did he? No. So I was right.

Godx:
Stop all these gas lighting. How exactly is Deborah and this Fatima case even related.

The post I just made, in a synopsis.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Abeg, make Una no join the whole Igbo race as IPOB

IPOB are Igbos
All Igbos are not IPOB

Some of us can't wait to see that group erased from the surface of the earth
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Is it not proof to you that people just type here for the sake of it? Is IPOB a religious organization? Was that woman killed for her religious disposition? The need to add Muslim and northerners is to sensationalize the news. IPOB killed an Igbo Christian man the other day and beheaded a politician who is from the governor's district and is definitely not Muslim.

There is a difference between a religious attack and a terrorist one. IPOB is a terrorist organization whose actions are not provoked by the ideas of a religious leader. Otherwise, IPOBians will be bold to do the same thing in every state and country that they are in, like the other bloodthirsty miscreants.

donlittle25:
I am a huge dallas fan and watch doncic a lot. He is a not a post up player. Klay Thompson post up more players than him i am sure. Russell westbrook also.

That is what I was telling them. Showing me one or 2 highlights of Curry dunking does not mean he has it in his bag. But they say it is Luka hate all because I want Luka to adjust the way he plays so we can be sure the others around him are bad.

Thanos:
Klay, curry,poole,wiggins are all stars. Bro, you are better than this na.
2- The problem with you people is that in your mind, basketball can only be played in one way and manner. If it's not played that way, it is rubbish. You do not seem to understand that coaching and personnel go a long way in determining how your team plays. Andrew Wiggins is the 4th best player on GSW. On my mavs team, he would be the second option. That is a fact. After doncic, the talent difference between him and our second best player is so wide, you can fit a spaceship in it. Dinwiddie is having a career renaissance because of doncic not in spite of doncic. Someone that was rotting away on the wizard's bench. These guys are only in the playoffs because of the quality of Luka, not other way around. They do not have the players to play the system you believe qualifies as great basketball. Moreover, he is still young. He has time. Every point you have used to against luka has actually shown how much more he is doing with less. Every remaining team has at least 2 all star players or all defense players. Luka is the lone star on this team and has brought them this far. If you cannot understand that....
https://synergysports.com/impacting-other-players-shot-quality/

Bros, those people you called all stars were not all stars before Curry but because of Curry. His way of playing maximized their talent. That is what we are saying.

Andrew Wiggins by draft should be the best player on the roster, he is only the 4th option because we play team basketball and every one plays their roles. As a result, Wiggins does not have the pressure to score so many points but that does not mean he doesn't get a chance. Every player on the roster will touch the ball several times before a point is scored. Why then praise Luka for not taking the initiative but then blame Curry for doing so. It is like Curry is being judged unfairly and we will not stand for it.

Dinwiddie already said why his scoring dropped after starting well on the Wizards. He was being told to reduce his scoring because other players were fighting for contracts. Then you want to say the Warriors should not be praised because we can manage such situations better than others? Come on.

If Luka becomes more inclusive to win, the other players around him will play better. You are trying hard to convince us that Luka has to play that way for his team to stand a chance yet the evidence and data calls cap on that. Luka is like 2-7 in the playoffs when he scores 40 points or more. Maybe he should learn from Curry and try to score 28 so that other players will contribute more and see if it will not result in more Ws for his team.

Thanos:
New? I've done more talking on nairaland in the past one hour than I have done in 6 years bros. I don't like debating the sport because it always ends up in shit flinging up and down. While that is fun in little doses, it gets exhausting over time abeg. Still, I sha don tell you. Remove the blindfold, stop the luka hate. Appreciate greatness. And don't forget, MAVS IN 7!!!

Luka hate? LOL. Whatevs man.

Thanos:
Educate yourself and stop all these strawman arguments. Armchair analyst sha. Them give this one GM role in any NBA team and watch as the team would get relegated in a league where relegation is impossible.

I don't need to be comprehensive with you, you are all hot air and no substance. If Luka gives up the ball every 8 seconds after it is checked in would he put up 40 points? You talk about Brunson and Dinwiddie but those guys are having decent numbers because they are the only ones that can create their own shots aside Luka. Who else on the warriors can create their own shots apart from Poole and Curry? I'll wait.

Thanos:
Bros. Rest. You win abeg. This is no longer a basketball discourse. This is just a hater going on a rant. You are no longer objectively analysing the game and for that, I am out. Peace.

My G, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Skrrrrrrr:
If he moved better, quit ball hogging and iso ball, he could create better looks for them and maybe they'd shoot better. Spencer is averaging 20ppg.

Don't mind them. Luka that dribbles the ball down to 4 secs. Lol

Khanben:
Which of the people list is a shooter, Ben Wallace,Mutombo, Rodman

Is that your way of accepting you lied about Draymond or did your post not mention Klay Thompson as well.

What did Draymond do when Curry was out?

Thanos:
Na we dey fuel him fire. Luka has played Zubac, gobert and Dayton off the floor in his short post season career. I can bet my left balls this guy does not watch even those 2 minute highlights NBA posts on their youtube channel. Lol. This is no longer trolling, he is just talking from a place of ignorance

You are new here. I thought you were an oldie with a new account. Hahha. Good one.

Khanben:
When curry faced a trap, he lost

So no NBA player has ever lost a game? Lol

Khanben:
Oga Luka has the best post game of any wing player alive today. Name name let's people judge. he was killing the runners up for DPOY in the post, a 7ft center and ever single member of the Suns apart from Javale in the post

of course. The tail wags the dog analyst.

Khanben:
What is he supposed to do when they trap him, if it's not to pass. Is it his fault that when he passes out of a double team, his teammate fail to make the shot. Or will he pass and also shoot at the same time

Is he the first person to face a trap? Is that not Currys life?

Thanos:
Jokic is a center for crying out loud!!! He is supposed to have more post ups than doncic. Doncic cannot post up? Why am I even continuing this discussion? You are beginning to sound like a livescore merchant. Forget about the games. Do you even watch highlights? Na wa. You are saying all doncic does is penetrate and pass out to the wings. What else is he supposed to do? Does he have a decent center to run pick n rolls with? Mavs play a five out system, he does what is expected of him. Jokic does what is expected of him in the system nuggets play. So what you are saying makes no sense. So doncic should play differently from his team's tactics so he can validate himself in your eyes as the better player? Abeg...

Who is GSWs decent center? Let me use one liners to show you gaping holes in your basketball knowledge.