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etidy:
Maybe you should read chats and check names when commenting. I have never said curry should be traded, maybe someone else said that.

But as things stand, either klay, draymond, Wiggins and Poole has to be traded.

Poole is just 22yrs, in his third year in the league and rapidly improving. Losing him will be tantamount to okc losing James harden, that will be a big mistake.

Wiggins play a role where very few players in the league can fill, he's also the warriors best perimeter defended, has no ego and has age on his side, so he's probably worth keeping.

Relax. Poole is getting a 100M 4 year extension on his rookie contract. Looney is getting 6M a year from next season. Klay will come back to close to his best, yes he is going to be 33 but he lost 2 years of basketball which has extended his playing years. The treatments and medicine/diet regime is better these days as you can see players like Lebron and CP3 play comfortably and at the top even at 33. Klay at 33 in basketball mileage will actually be 30. He only needs to play within the team, be patient and allow the game to come to him. Sometimes he forces bad shots and just does not read the game well.

Nobody is trading Curry. He has been inefficient by his unbelievably high standards but even at that his shooting % is still better than Luka's.

PrinceMon101:
I disagree with Liverpool winning the EPL, are you aware Aston Villa has a clause in Grealish contract with City that states City will be paying a certain sum to Villa should in case they win the league?

Na who no like money nau, I see Villa giving them a win tomorrow

Lies. There is no such clause in Grealish's contract as he was signed by a release clause. You cannot have conditions like add-ons on a release clause. Meanwhile, Liverpool does have a clause on Jota's contract where Wolves get some add-ons should Liverpool win the league.

As for the game, Wolves are 8th and Aston Villa are 14th. Then, City have won all their last however many games against Aston Villa and are incredible at home. City will also have John Stones and Kyle Walker back so their back line is back to its best. Every other starter is fit. There is only going to be one outcome. City will easily dispatch Aston Villa and I predict they will do so by 3+ goals. City will br crowned EPL champions.

airmark:
One can easily figure out how their minds operate, based on what they post here. So revealing.

Man is the only animal that the brutal and bestial killing of his fellow man gives him pleasure. Huge shame.

Meanwhile, to those who are misunderstanding Jesus. When he said he did not come to abolish the law of Moses but to fulfill them. That is old king James language. This is the present day way of saying what he said.

airmark:

This one is hooked with cherry picking from Leviticus, but wouldn't move to what Jesus, from who Christianity emanated from, said against killing a sinner.

Oh, you want Christians to leave Christ ways and start killing for God like the Muslims?

That same chapter he is quoting, just a few verses after, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is mentioned. Jesus comes and tells his disciples and the surrounding Jews, that people were only permitted such instructions because men's hearts were hardened. Then he tells them what the law should really be, if someone strikes you on one cheek, turn and give him the other. Which is another way of saying, do not retaliate.

But someone that is not a Christian will tell me to ignore what CHRIST in the CHRISTian said to muddy the waters in a bid to subtlely justify murder.

Havertz10:


if you studied economics, then you should know that no economic theory is law because of the vast variables at play in most cases, infact most economists don’t agree on anything

you keep repeating the same talking points, they aren’t propping up their currency if the demand pressure is external, I don’t understand you, I have explained how it works in principle, if their measures were counterproductive, why did most European nations reject it at first before succumbing after pressure from Russia

Geo-politics and economics go hand in hand, most variables that play major roles in economical situations have geo-political origins

How can you understand how oil price is derived without factoring geo politics


You are referencing Venezuela, when we have established here that it’s American sanctions that killed that nation not government policy

When Russian Rouble immediately crashed following the sanctions, the west were not looking long term then. Then Putin reacted, and today the Rouble is far better to the dollar than it was pre-sanctions, we have to now ditch the short term effect and wait for years to say sanctions worked. Even when some of the nations that joined the sanctions have now backed off it. Haha

Reminds me of this story the morale of which is: when someone has made up his mind to hang his dog, any thread he sees will be good enough for him.

Blueelf:
Don't mind the guy

He is living in fantasyland

Thinking Luka will by himself lead a team of green smallboys against GSW. I'm not just talking age but also playoff and finals experience now

As if Luka is better than Jokic.

Expert17:
because I love the name Chelsea

And I was born into a Chelsea home.

Ellexy:
Those beliefs you mentioned doesn't in any way make one a Christian lmaoo. Infact a Muslim believes exactly in those things and more. A traditionalist believes in those things and more.

It's hilarious you don't even know the basic things that makes one a Christian. Christ is the center of Christianity. For you to constantly undermine and make jest of his birth, ministry, death, resurrection shows you don't even know anything about you talking about.

It's just like a Muslim making jest of Muhammad, his life, his visions etc and how he's not the Allah's prophet.

Guy you shouldn't be taken serious at all, you're unhinged.

That is why I supported you when you were asking Ca....those questions about his faith because I know about Al taqiyah and some of his arguments were the typical Muslim arguments. Same with the guy you are quoting and that Kh.....person. Anybody interacting with them on the basis of them being Christian don miss better road.

airmark:

Na open play we dey see here for football, for religion na open mind.

Ogbeni you are not a Christian.

I am a Chelsea fan but I hate all Chelsea fans. They are all fake. I hate the club's jersey. I hate Stamford Bridge. I hate Chelsea history. I hate all the trophies we won. I hate all the past Chelsea managers and the current one. I don't ever want Chelsea to ever win another trophy. In fact, Arsenal, United, City, Liverpool fans are all better than Chelsea fans. The best club is actually Arsenal but Chelsea fans will never admit it.

But but but I swear, I am a Chelsea fan.

airmark:
A bit disappointed that Patrickmuf quoted him, because using the word rape, just showed that the poster was desperate to achieve ''Our religion is terrible, so is yours'' goal.

One of the classic apologetic tactics. They usually bring it up when the first excuse that "it is not what we teach" fails.

"Fanatic" and "Fundamentalist/Extremist" are keywords people have to watch out for. They are used to deceive. A fanatic will stray from the teachings of his faith out of unfounded zeal but a fundamentalist will follow the teachings of his faith to the letter.

The people who killed Deborah are actually fundamentalists.

DissTroy:
Maybe; But then again, maybe not.

But you can be sure no Christian or Yahweh apologist is going to behead you for this question or lynch you for daring to ask IN THIS AGE AND TIME. The worst you'd get would be insults or ostracism - being shunned or ignored by Christian, because, for what it's worth, is just what it is - a question, a statement of your opinion which harms nobody.

And that is exactly what every rational person is saying - why did Deborah have to be killed for making a statement which harms nobody physically or psychologically?
That is the bone of contention. That's what separates religionists from murderous fanatical extremists.

Apart from this, one does not need to believe the story but Mary consented to it according to the Bible so the question is already from a false premise.

Oasis007:


UAE?..... LMFAO

They are doing worse than homosexuality in UAE, especially Dubai and Sharjah. Forget UAE bro. They only care about making Money from Tourists not Shariah. Spend good time at Marina, JBR, JLT and your Eyes gonna open to reality in UAE.

I started by saying I am not judging anyone. I know that some Muslims engage in it but officially it is regarded as morally wrong in Islam right? That is what I mean.

raumdeuter:
Every human and society picks what they are absolute about and what they are relative about.

Wherever you are from, you will hear this is what our culture say when some topics are discussed, yet hear silence about other topics

I know and agree that morality is relative which is why I said you cannot use it to defend a culture/sect/group who are at the same time absolute about morality when it concerns another person's culture. People get stoned and lynched for being homosexual in Islamic culture but you don't feel donj is allowed to refer to child sex as pedophilia at the same time. Hope you get my point.

raumdeuter:
There are cultures where they happen but it was not acceptable to the God of bible and Koran
According to the bible what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah?

According to bible and Koran homosexuality was already a crime back then. Marrying a 9yr old was not a crime at then.
So followers of both religions who hold dear onto the belief of their book with absolutism will always check and see it was a crime 2000yrs ago

For the purpose of this conversation I am not discussing whether I personally agree that homosexuality/pedophilia is morally right or wrong. Over 4500 years ago, in Sodom, homosexuality was not wrong just like it is not wrong in the US today but it is a crime in the UAE just like it is in Nigeria (especially Northern Nigeria) and it was to some other culture in that day. On the flip side, I can guarantee you that pedophilia was morally wrong in some cultures during the inception of Islam. The only difference is, you are using a relativism argument for pedophilia for a culture that is absolute about homosexuality which makes your argument inconsistent.

raumdeuter:
What is legal and right does not only depend on the action but the time and place where the action took place. Many things we do today will be outright crimes 200yrs from now

This is moral relativism but that is not what Muslims believe about homosexuality. They are absolute about it. You brought up the Bible but at least homosexuality is still regarded as a sin from OT to NT just like pedophilia. It did not evolve with time. I am not debating the merits of relativism or absolutism. I am saying if you are absolute about morality it has to be consistent. You can't pick and choose when to use it and when to ignore it.

Ellexy:
Okay lemme get this straight...

Muslims today marrying children and citing Muhammad as their benchmark correctly termed pedophiles, they're practicing pedophilia. Correct.

Also Muhammad who's footsteps they're following married a child and had sex with her... Reactions= He didn't do it, he didn't practice pedophilia, he's clearly not a pedophile.

I was just making the same argument but in a different way and with slightly different words.

raumdeuter:
2050 Heading the ball is now a foul

Did Drogba foul to win the CL in 2012 and should he be termed a cheat based on the laws of 2050

You are a logical guy so let me show you why this logic has issues. Muslims despise homosexuals and call them names. Why is the logic then not that many years ago homosexuality was condoned? You see, they choose moral absolutism when it is convenient and then subscribe to moral relativism when it is not convenient. That is not a very robust argument if we are being honest.

I usually avoid all these type of debates because my aim is not criticize another person's belief but I have seen that you are making your own position logical which is why I am showing you this perspective.

birdman:
Of course, but that has little to do with who the best players are. When you say ring is all that matters when evaluating a player, I beg to differ. Derek Fisher has 5 rings, Robert Horry has 7 rings. Barkley has 0, TMac has 0. Gary Payton 0. So obviously just rings is not enough. That is why there are many good players on the nba 75 anniversary that didnt win a ring. You need a good front office, solid team, solid coach and fewer injuries than your opponent to win a ring. Some of this is outside the control of you individual skill. Go ask Durant how it went this season.

Gary Payton won a ring with Miami Heats with Shaq and D Wade.

Roland17:
Have you personally come across “Apocryphal” writings? I implore you and everyone reading this to Google the meaning of “Apocryphal”.. Let’s start from there first before I even delve into the history and evolution of Apocryphal writings. Please do not use them as facts because every writing came with a warning about the legitimacy of the contents written. So do well to research Apocryphal writings before using them as proof. Scholars very rarely use “Apocryphal” writings to justify anything.

Jewish tradition forbids the marriage of an older man to the younger lady except in very rare occasions and one of them is when the man is extremely rich, which Joseph wasn’t. Also, bethrotel indicates one is assigned to another at a young age and is being prepared to Mary someone after a while. This Jewish tradition was done amongst young people. According to what we know, Mary had been prepared for this assignment as recorded in the Old Testament, so was Joseph.

According to Mathew 1:18- 25, when Joseph found out Mary was pregnant, he was very disturbed and decided against marrying Mary because it was going to bring shame upon him and his lineage. Which means Joseph must have been young to worry about this to the point of wanting to back out until he was visited during his sleep at night by an Angel, who convinced him. So you see this Bible verse rubbishes the idea Joseph was old and did not care if Mary was going to have a child that was not his because he was old as being propagated by many of those writings you have up there.

My respect for you just went even higher with this post.

fattprince:
So you actually believed Joseph was 90 when he married Mary? And Isaac married Rebecca at 3? Fvck!! What the hell are they teaching you guys? Religion really makes people stupid. I just see that now

It does.

Don't want to get involved.

airmark:
Sorry for mistaking you for Donstan on the emboldened.

Photocopy ko easy. That's what you get when you don't copy properly and even allowed goat to eat your writing notes. That's why we have fake and original products.

Was Jesus given birth to under a palm tree? It's just like someone telling you that you were born in Las Vegas when it was recorded by your family members that you were born in Naija. Common sense should tell anyone that story from such source should be jettisoned.

The real Jesus Christ was crucified, Isa wasn't, according to the Quran. So why will any sane person go with a story told by a source missing targets like Morata in front of goal?

Ogbeni, Isa is not Jesus.

Nice

Homo Sapien era 300, 000 years? That is news to me.

Ellexy:
You're very funny. Yesterday I told you the stand of the Bible about this issue and you downplayed it. Now you're bringing what the Qur'an said to make me believe

I asked your religion yesterday, you refused to answer but you'll quickly take what the Qur'an said over the Bible. Okay.

By their fruits you shall know them.

Remember when people told you that RM ran away from Erling Braut Haaland because of money and how City are ruining football. Okay.

DissTroy:
He doesn't need to answer- I'd do so.

I'd do you 2 better and name 4 Muslims [verified Muslims] who continually slander Christians and Christianity on Nairaland.

Ready? I am too.

1. 'Apostle Suleiman represents pastors and all are 't0t0 sniffer". Jesus couldn't perform any miracle, and he couldn't save himself from being crucified.' https://www.nairaland.com/7057652/muslim-skip-fasting-he-nothing/2#111564894 .

Nairaland moniker: Gawu1.


2. '[Jesus] is neither God nor son of God as claimed by some.'

https://www.nairaland.com/6908707/return-prophet-isa-jesus-peace#108771319
Nairaland moniker: Lukgaf .

3. 'Why can't you call Jesus the son of Angel Gabriel since his the one that they blew air into the Virginia of marry.' 'But to achieve you lies... You associate Jesus with God, you over hype him.'
https://www.nairaland.com/6908707/return-prophet-isa-jesus-peace/3#109161810

Nairaland moniker: HeeBraHim2

4. Local-search "pastor tithe" and you'd see Muslims having a swell time insulting Christianity and Christians. https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=tithe+pastor&board=44

I could go on and on. Muslims slander Christianity daily and they are protected with a separate section for them. They mostly go unchallenged because no everyone wants to swear that oath of allegiance to Allah.

Very well-researched post.

airmark:
Satan even understands bible so no biggie. I am telling you that you are wrong about Jesus and Isa being the same. The Quran even disagrees with your stand just as seen in the image uploaded in my last post.

You may have knowledge of Christianity and still got brainwashed about Islam, that is exactly what I smell if you are/were truly a Christian.

Saying Muslims obey the bible more than Christians, was the red light that exposed your limited knowledge yesterday. Muslims that criticise Bible for having unreliable contents after many reviews?

Many Christians have been brainwashed for years, that Muslims and Christians serve the same God. Technically this is a ruse and elements of Taqqiyah at play.

In Christianity, you don't need to face any direction to pray to your God and other stuff that knocks that mumu claim off.

Next time don't say with confidence, what you don't have full knowledge about

It was your fellow Chelsea fan with 1-8 in his moniker that said that nonsense about obeying the bible.

The highlighted part is 10000% true.

Ellexy:
It's almost like you're a fan of their barbaric behavior. The way you describe the whole stuff with joy says a lot.

They are being killed in China. Their prophet is being maligned in China. Why are they not killing people there? Because they will only attack people that they know will never strike back. They are humble in China because Xi Ping no send you. He gives it to them hot hot.

Disclaimer: I don't agree with Xi Ping.

Your alternate reality is sweet to the unsuspecting. Many of them dread you because you come with the full package of evil: lies, theft, robbery, rape, pedophilia, murder and terrorism. Your entire history is written in massacres. A Boko Haramist you are and a Boko Haramist you will always be, like your cult leader. The only time you will ever take the crowd along is via suicidal bombing and that is how you will end.