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AnfieldFan:
Guy, I initially stated and have since maintained he was tried as a striker and wasn't successful...

Infact, what led Pep to try him out was because he wasn't particularly good at anything...

The highlighted is what I challenged and you are still proving me right. Muller was TRIED as a striker -therefore he was not one. In addition, Muller was not unsuccessful there, he had some good games and some bad games. Do you understand now?

AnfieldFan:
And I'm telling you that Kloppo's post isn't my business....I corrected Dayo by telling him that Muller actually played matches as a striker....Not one single match, matches, Plural...

Did Dayo say Muller was never used as a striker? Comprehension again.

AnfieldFan:
He was unsuccessful as a striker...
Antonio hasn't always been a striker but he's playing that now because he's produced results...
You have comprehension issues because you're trying to nitpick something by drawing different analogies to hold up your initial position...

Your own article said he had mixed results - some good and some bad games. So we now agree on 2 things, he was not a striker even though he was tried there and he was not unsuccessful there. The results were mixed. Is that clear?

AnfieldFan:
He disagreed with a post that said Muller played as a striker by pointing out that Muller has always played either behind ba striker or from the wings..

I said he has been tried out there by Pep but didn't continue because it was unsuccessful..

Bring on the Bobby slander, none will be tolerated and all will be checked...

He disagreed with the argument that Muller was Bayern's striker. Kloppo said Muller failing there made Pep get Lewandowski and make Muller a defensive striker. Comprehension again.

AnfieldFan:
My initial address to Dayo said "He's been tried"..
You went ahead to ask if I was sure(He had been tried there ) and I didn't only respond in the affirmative, I proved it was Pep that did..
Terry was goalie because no other goalie was available on the bench which isn't the same as Muller was deployed as a striker more than once..

Read exactly what I highlighted before responding. You accused me of having comprehension issues but that insult seems like it is coming back to haunt you. The article you cited said Muller had been tried there on occasion with mixed results. That contradicts the claim you were trying to support which is that he was a striker (Kloppo) or that he was largely unsuccessful there. Did you worry about "why" he was tried there - like you tried to for John Terry?

AnfieldFan:
Dayo said Muller played behind the main striker or from the wings...

So he did not say Muller was NEVER tried as a striker, right?

I correctly pointed out that he's actually been played as a striker most notably by Pep but wasn't successful...

No, it said with mixed results. But I have comprehension issues, right?

The question was, yes or no and the answer is yes.....You yourself asked if I was sure he had been tried there and I proved it..

I asked if you were sure he was unsuccessful there.

This is you asking if I'm sure Muller had ever been tried as a striker..

Again, I asked if you were sure he was unsuccessful there.

Point out how Jota scoring means Firmino failed which was the initial point of the debate and you keep on flailing hopelessly because you can't discern both play differently....

Oh I will have a Jota/Firminho debate when I am sure you understand your own argument.

AnfieldFan:
Tried there as a striker on occasion proves he actually played as a striker....
Tis no deflection Sir, everybody knows except you...

lol tried as a striker means he was not a striker for the team. Remember when John Terry was "tried" as a keeper? lol. Did that make him one?

AnfieldFan:
Whether it was Cap or Kloppo isn't my business hence me saying irrelevant, the fact is Dayo said Muller had never played as a striker and I corrected him...
You're having comprehension issues over something Hensben would understand despite English not being his favoured language....
If you still can't comprehend, read the entire convo again....

I told you and the other guy, don't do personals because they are not in your favour. For e.g Dayo said Muller was played behind the striker but you without comprehension issues said he said Muller NEVER played as a striker. I don't know if I should laugh or cry for you.

AnfieldFan:
I mistaked Kloppo for Cap, an honest mistake anyone can make...
I addressed Dayo..
Your claims were busted by the Police D.P and actual people who live in England and any person that knows anything about English football knows Etihad doesn't fill out more than St James Park not to talk of the heavy hitters...

I am sensing some humility. The word you are looking for is mistook. You did not address Dayo. In fact, your post proved him right. If Muller was a striker he would not need to be "tried there on occasion". I hope you get it now. I won't bother entertaining your deflection on the Etihad because a drowning man will clutch onto any straw he finds. If you have data to backup any other claims, be my guest. Till then, stay humble.

AnfieldFan:
I mistaked the person because I originally stated I wasn't interested in the Muller argument...
What Kloppo stated is irrelevant...
I was addressing Dayo who said Muller had always played either as an 8 or winger..

You're the one who's completely out of depth just like you were the day you stated Etihad fills out more than Anfield...

At the same time what Kloppo stated is irrelevant. But when you thought it was someone else it was relevant. All these are the superior arguments I have to read. Haha

AnfieldFan:
I mistaked the person because I originally states I wasn't interested in the Muller argument...
What Kloppo stated is irrelevant...
I was addressing Dayo who said Muller had always played either as an 8 or winger..

You're the one who's completely out of depth just like you were the day you stated Etihad fills out more than Anfield...

Haha. So you mistaked the person. Okay. Now you were addressing Dayo. Even when you were just arguing that you were supporting someone else. Now you have brought in Etihad even when I showed you that 2 of the past 3 years the Etihad has averaged higher attendees than Anfield.

AnfieldFan:
Here we go again...

Let's see...
1-Capdan says Muller was tried as a striker in Bayern. He buttresses this point by bringing out picture quotes of two coaches who have both coached him referring to him as one

2-Dayo and Zeus says Cap is lying, he's always played as an 8 or winger...

3 - I point out to Dayo that in truth, Pep did indeed try him out as a striker before deciding better of it ..

You've somehow managed to hang onto this because your wrong opinion on Bobby's abilities were rightly called out..

Did Muller try the strike position for Bayern, yes he did ...No amount of inordinate amala turning will change this...
Do Jota and Bobby operate the same way for Liverpool;- No...

As expected, completely out of depth. Start with the fact that the person who made the claim was Kloppo. Now correct yourself and see if he used the word "tried" anywhere.

AnfieldFan:
Why are you wilfully being obtuse, you've been battered by a completely superior argument and you've now resorted to saying me stating something that actually happened is me supporting Capdan...If I no support am, na you I go support..

Oga once more, Muller was tried in that role, any other thing you're spinning is a web that won't stick...

You have a penchant for patting yourself in the back for no justifiable reason even when your own words show you are out of your depth. lol. Read yourself again, you tried to defend someone who claimed Muller is a striker by presenting evidence that showed Muller was tried there on occasion. If you don't see how you have made no sense, keep basking in your imaginary superior argument. lol

raumdeuter:
Guaediola has tried Foden Sterling KdB Bernardo Mahrez all as a striker at some time

The person's evidence said "tried" and "on occasion" and he does not see that it works against him.

CAPdan21:
Small tactical analysis your brain nor fit carry....in place of actual argument u resort to your inherent ninny attribute...izzou come and see your elruditor, but you'll have to ask him whether d hand e suppose don chop na he dey use take type

People will resort to personals because they know their argument is vacuous. There is nothing new.

AnfieldFan:
I didn't argue nothing, go over the entire conversation before typing out a false narration..
Capdan was the one that argued that Muller had been deployed as a 9 in his Bayern career before switching to 8.
The two Bayern fans countered with a litany of strikers over the years to have been tried as strikers omitting Muller.
It was at this point I pointed out that he had actually been tried in the strike position by Pep
and despite his failure in that role, he still is one of the best of his generation before you erroneously assumed I was wrong and I proved I wasn't ..
Don't try to spin tales...

Let me tell you how it works - your presenting the Muller as striker "evidence" to help the person who was arguing that, is your tacit support for his argument.

CAPdan21:
What I was talking about was after that season which was salah first season...Klopp even referenced it in pre-season ahead of the 2018/19 season

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.skysports.com/football/liverpoolattack&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwikzpmP6MP1AhU4h_0HHVqQBD0QFnoECAsQAg&usg=AOvVaw2cDFqSvsf0NJRcLT9dxF3X

I already called it Kloppaganda and you are still citing Klopp. Will a good manager not extol any little virtue in his underperfoming player to encourage him?

AnfieldFan:
Irrelevant, the question was; did Pep try him as a striker?

Yes or No..
Answer is Yes...
Any other thing is you trying to wiggle...

Muller's one of the greatest players of his generation, him failing as a striker doesn't detract from that...

You are confusing yourself. You tried to argue that Muller was deployed primarily as a striker and he did not do well. The Bayern fan showed you that Bayern always had primary strikers with Muller playing behind then you pointed to the fact that he was "tried" there on occasion with mixed results. So I pointed out to you that Grealish has been subjected to the same however it does not make him a striker - just like Muller. Case dismissed.

CAPdan21:
Lol...Liverpool of 2017/18 played more as a counterattacking team go watch most of their goals in the Ucl...when teams saw their firepower they started sitting deeper which means firmino had to drop deeper to create space for mane and salah in a crowded penalty box

So when this happened in 2017/18 did he still not score?

AnfieldFan:
Yes

Grealish has been tried as a striker as well with very mixed results. Does that make him one?

CAPdan21:
Nah...it shows that he has the capability to score goals but playing him as a penalty box striker diminishes his main strengths which is to come deep and draw defenders out of position as showcased in jota first goal yesterday...No be for this thread people dey yab lukaku for lack of movement

Was he not drawing defenders out when he scored 27 goals?

AnfieldFan:
I do not claim to know things I don't know, I ask questions or do my research personally...

Okay. So do I.

AnfieldFan:
You won't ever see me involved in these asinine comparisons because I know better...
Muller was tried as a striker by Pep and it didn't work out... Doesn't take away from Muller's abilities as a player...
People sometimes post false things and other people run with it...
Like the guy that said Klopp knowingly lied about the Covid outbreak from an Athletic article he didn't bother reading to the end...
I just don't have the patience to suffer these inanities (the posts not the individuals) if not I would be calling out false info most days...

Are you sure?

CAPdan21:
the argument has always been that firmino main role as a Liverpool is not a penalty box specialist...dsame firmino you are trying to ridicule has scored 27goals in a season...why don't you compare salah numbers to prime robben/ribery shey na dsame position dem dey play na..

The fact that he scored 27 goals in a season from that position actually works against you because it proves that he was in that position to score goals.

Jokerman:
Was it Mourinho that bought modric or Ancelloti?

He was signed when Mourinho was manager and yes Mourinho played him out of position that first season.

popizaino:
What makes him a fraud?

Please, don't make him change topic. I beg you.

hensben:
Hazard has played 43 games so far for real madrid because of injury, is that what you call flop. If he is injury free he would've pick since.

Playing 43 games is not because of injury. Ancelloti said it is because he prefers to play other players rather than Hazard. He has been a massive failure in Real Madrid. Monumental failure.

AnfieldFan:
No one's stopping you, bring up your arguments so they can be debated and hashed out.... Don't hide under Kloppaganda to mask your little knowledge about the way Liverpool have played the past few years...
I don't mask my ignorance by calling Pep Fraudiola...

Okay. So you don't mask your ignorance, you wear it on your chest right? Clap for yourself.

hensben:
Modric had two flop seasons with no injury while Hazard had, he is not rushed into the side, because he is still recovering.

Hensben this is a lie. Modric was only deemed a flop his first season and that is because Mourinho did not know how to use him. Zidane failed with Hazard and Ancelotti has tried to sell him to Newcastle, Roma even Chelsea. Hazard's time in Spain has been an epic fail. Rest.

zeusis:
Klopp apologists tried to force down the "firmimo is a false 9 who makes the front three gel" narrative down our throats

I saw those arguments but I did not want to join in because I knew it was all Kloppaganda.

postdigger:
Will CFC win the league as you predicted? Or man utd finishing second?

You are an intelligent guy. It is not hard to figure out which team I support. Then you can know why I gave that type of prediction.

Pathetic. Shameful. In the words of Didier Drogba in 2009 "a fxck!ng disgrace".