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19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, t[b]hat they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. [/b]

repent and escape. Jesus is coming.

ayoku777: You didnt answer any of my questions. I said which sins are not unto death. Please answer me. Then just as Jesus said to that woman, neither do i condemn you, go and sin no more. Dying in that state doesn't make you go to hell.

I'm waiting for your answer.

everything we teach will be accounted for. any soul we send to hell through heresy will be accounted for. May God have mercy.

ok. bye bye.

annyplenty: If you confessed Christ and later go into adultery and die as an adulterer or fornicator or idolater, YOU WILL GO TO HELL REVELATIONS 21:8.

If you deny this, then count me out of this conversation.

ayoku, is the above statement true or false? just answer true or false. other believers are also reading.

If you confessed Christ and later go into adultery and die as an adulterer or fornicator or idolater, YOU WILL GO TO HELL REVELATIONS 21:8.

If you deny this, then count me out of this conversation.

ayoku777: You didn't answer my questions

Even the Lord Jesus Christ was a gift to us. The father gave Him to as a free gift of salvation.

For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten son.

But this does not mean that the father will say he is no more giving us His son to save us.But does this equally mean all mankink will be saved automatically because the father had given us His son? No.

shdemidemi: All I need you to show me- is the Holy Spirit working or leading any one in the book of Revelation like we see all over the epistles as promised by Christ.


Also, this chapter Mat. 24 had nothing to do with the Holy Spirit, it was strictly on works.

the mount of olives sermon of mathew 24 is also repeated in mark 13 and luke 21. let us read mark 13:10-13

10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.

13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

I have just quoted to you the words of Christ Himself to you. He mentioned that The Holy Spirit shall give them word contrary to what you said that Holy Spirit is not leading them. Also, after saying that the Holy Spirit will lead them by giving them utterance, He ended it by saying that He would endure to the end will be saved.

It will do you good to know that the book of revelations is a book prophecy of what to happen and not like the acts of apostles. Yet, it still revolves around the Holy Spirit. Jesus ended each of the warning He gave to the 7 churches with 'He who hat an ear, l[b]et him hear what The Spirit, sayeth to the church'[/b].

How then can you say Holy Spirit is not leading any one in the book of revelation? Have you forgotten that it was the Holy Spirit that made John to receive the revelations. He started by acknowledging that he was in the spirit. revelations 1:10. no one can receive any revelation except with the help of the Holy Spirit.

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

revelations 19:10 also says that witness of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy. It is the Holy Spirit that made John to receive the prophecy.If John was not in the Spirit he would not see Jesus.

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

lastly, go and read revelations chapter 22 and see how the Holy Spirit was recorded the He would help the saint to look forward to seeing Jesus at rapture.revelations 22:17

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

bye bye.

shdemidemi: I implore you to read the entire chapter, you will realise the entire event(tribulation) discussed in the chapter would not happen before rapture but post rapture. By then, the church would have left.


If you compare how the church would go to the account in the gospel according to Matthew, you will realise the dichotomy.


As for the statement "13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." We can link this to the book of revelation where a few/remnant (144000) would be saved through their works. At this time, there will be no Holy Spirit to lead them, there will be no grace either.

You are blatantly wrong my brother. the church would not have gone by this time. Jesus was just giving the signs of His coming at rapture to the the disciples. All the things He told them are happening right in our presence now and rapture had not happened. He mentioned earthquake, famine, wars, false prophets and PERSECUTIONS.

He now charged us not to be discouraged by those things that who endured to the end will be saved. If what we do do not matter, he would not have said such.

Brother, you must realise that no scripture stands alone. scripture must interprete scripture. if you read something in genesis and the explanation is not full yet, it might be in revelations that the scripture that will explain and balance it will be given.

FelcoCom: mayb its a mistake...
let d spirit of God interpret d word for u nd nt because u went to bible skul
let me ask u dis
wat do u want to say abt DEMA dat movd wit earthly tins
was his sin nt significant

what is your own position? I dont seem to understand.

Are you also saying, like shdemidemi, that once you confessed Christ as your saviour, you dont need to bother about what you do again, you will make heaven?

FelcoCom: am sorry to interrupt
i ave bn readin d posts n i found sometin
does it mean dat after salvation...any sin u commit is insignificant before God n d person is nt held responsible?
cos people r just talkin abt grace

that is what shdemidemi and ayoku777 are saying.

shdemidemi: I believe the scripture is clear on this,we can't add more conditions to what was written, can we?

Can you explain the scripture below. mathew 24:13

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

ayoku777: Lemme ask you this question too. Do you believe the gifts and calling of God are without repentance?

If YES

Do you believe that righteousness and the Holy Spirit are gifts?

Let him answer my question or you answer for him. we ll come back to your own later.

shdemidemi: Living a Holy life means being in Christ.

Yes, being a Christian (indeed) means having the Spirit of God in us. We are led by the Spirit to will and do according to God's purpose.

Now, let me ask you another question. Though, I have asked you before.

If a person confessed Christ as his saviour, will that person go to heaven no matter what he does after the confession?

shdemidemi: Living a holy life or being holy means coming to the realisation and acceptance of the gospel of Christ.

I didnt say being holy. I said living a holy life.

So again, what does living a holy life mean?

Should Christian live a holy life? If yes, HOW?

I say again, prepare to escape with the Lord, Jesus Christ, AT RAPTURE.

MESSIAH IS COMING.

Nigeria, let us return to The LORD, JESUS CHRIST.

There is too much sin in the land.

Jesus is coming.

We have had too many plane crashes in this nation. another one can be averted.

Let us repent and turn away from all wickedness.

Messiah is coming.

Let us repent quickly. Judgement of God has already begun. Only repentance in Jesus Christ can turn it back.

Messiah is coming.

Escape for thy life!

The instruction has never changed from what was given to Lot; Escape for thy life.

Even you need to escape.

Prepare, trumpet will sound any moment! If you missed rapture, you will remember this thread that I warned you.

Jesus is coming.

shdemidemi: ^^^^Meaning?

What does it mean to live a holy life?

How can christians live a holy life?

Let all men wash in the blood of Jesus Christ. Grace period will soon close. No one can claim ignorance.

Repent and turn away from Sins.

He is coming.

Prepare ye the way.

Shalom.

PREPARING FOR RAPTURE, PART 3.

https://www.nairaland.com/1452458/end-time-bible-teaching-preparing-rapture

PREPARING FOR RAPTURE, PART 2.

https://www.nairaland.com/1414554/end-time-bible-teaching-preparing-rapture

PREPARING FOR RAPTURE, PART 1.

https://www.nairaland.com/1390902/end-time-bible-teaching-preparing-rapture

PREPARING FOR RAPTURE, PART 4

https://www.nairaland.com/1497430/end-time-bible-teaching-preparing-rapture

PREPARING FOR RAPTURE, PART 3

https://www.nairaland.com/1452458/end-time-bible-teaching-preparing-rapture

PREPARING FOR RAPTURE PART 2

https://www.nairaland.com/1414554/end-time-bible-teaching-preparing-rapture

solomon111: Idiott

May God bless you sir.

LET US REPENT AND PRAY AGAINST AEROPLANE CRASHING INTO WATER IN NIGERIA

For two different occasions now, I have had a dream of an aeroplane crashing into water in Nigeria.

The first time was a few month ago. We prayed that God should avert it.

Now, about the last day of october, 2013, in the early hours, the dream came again in the same manner that the first one came but now it was clearer. The plane plunged directly into the water; may be a river, lagoon, lake or so, but it is a body of water. In the afternoon of the same day, similar dream continued.

This is not to scare anybody but to call for repentance and prayer. Remember; effentual fervent prayer of the righteous availeth much.

Isaiah 24:5-6 says that men through sins and evil deeds have broken the ordinances of God. It is the ordinance of God that controls movement in the air and men have broken this ordinance through sin. That is why we see birds dropping dead from the skies and aeroplanes crashing in many places across the world.

Only REPENTANCE IN JESUS CHRIST CAN TURN AWAY THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD. Only THE BLOOD COVERING OF JESUS CHRIST CAN SAFEGUARD IN THE DAY OF GOD'S ANGER.

Repent and turn away from all sins. Cover yourselves in the blood of Jesus Christ.

Jesus is coming.
Shalom.

MEILYN: "And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. " (Mark 13:27).

Erm, His elects are only 144,000 in number, and those are the only ppl that will make heaven.

The rest of us will be on earth, u see the earth is here to stay forever. Nobody is rapturing into the skies.

"One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever." (Ecclesiastes 1:4).

nobody is rapturing into the skies. everything happens here on earth. when the lord returns, all evil will be conquered then earth will be transformed to 'heaven'. no sin, no evil, no pestilence, diseases etc..

The Earth is the place of judgment, u pay for your sins on Earth.

"And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there." (Ecclesiastes 3:16).

the place of judgement ( the judgement ground ) is under the sun. 'under the sun' means the earth. if you read the whole chapter 2, the 'under the sun' is used at least 5 times when referring to 'earth'..

There is nothing like Rapture, this is the only thing i know of.

"And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein." (Zechariah 13:8 )

"And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God." (Zechariah 13:9).

This are the things that will happen. There is nothing like rapture in the Bible.

Then, you can graciously leave this thread and go to another. It is not meant for you. thank you.

Prepare to meet thy Lord in the air.

Prepare to meet thy Lord in the air.