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. . . any of the dreamkillers in the list below? Those bank directors who "borrowed" depositors money with no intention of paying back while the depositors of the failed banks are left gnashing their teeth. One of them may be our parent, child, cousin, nephew/niece, other relation, friend, neighbour, church/mosque/shrine fellow worshipper, fellow alumni etc. If you know any of them, kindly advise him to repay ASAP.
Let's remember that in the US, Madoff got 150 year jail sentence, after having been exposed by his kids. Unfortunately some of the insider credit abuse proceeds end up in the US and some of the kids of these fraudulent Nigerians are reaping the benefits of the more effective US judicial/financial system.
I would rather encourage my relation or friend to pay up instead of taking the risk of being killed or jailed by the revolutionary, in the mould of JJ Rawklings. that we all seem to be waiting for.
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Senate Names Adedoyin, Offor, Bayero, Others in N53.3bn Insider Credit Abuse
•Gulf Bank former director owes N7bn
From Sufuyan Ojeifo in Abuja, 07.08.2009

At last, the Senate Committee on Banking, Insurance and Other Financial Institutions yesterday made good its threat to name former directors of 13 failed banks who were involved in insider credit abuse that led to the banks’ failure.
The former directors of the failed banks collectively owed the failed banks N53.3 billion out of which the Nigeria Deposit Insurance Corporation (NDIC) has so far recovered a paltry N4.722 billion.
Former Minister of Science and Technology, Chief Ebitimi Banigo; former Minister of Information, Chief Dapo Sarumi; former Governor of old Kwara State, Alhaji Shaaba Lafiagi; an industrialist, Prince Samuel Adedoyin; a businessman, Sir Emeka Offor; and former Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, Chief Dubem Onyia, featured in the list.
Former presidential aspirant, Mallam Saleh Jambo; ex-Lagos State commissioner, Chief Remi Adiukwu-Bakare; her husband, Chief Stephen Bakare; Senator Chris Adighije; Senator Mike Ajaegbo; Chief S.O. Bakare; Chief Great Ogboru; Sir Victor Odili; Mr. Paul Achimugu; Mr. Adeyeba Adekunle Johns; Chief C.M. Ibeto; Alhaji Abbati Aminu Saleh; and Ibrahim Aminu Saleh among many others, also featured in the list.
Although, the name of foremost industrialist and richest man in the country, Alhaji Aliko Dangote, featured in the list as having received a credit of N650 million from the failed Liberty Bank in the name of Bullion International and Dangote Group of Companies, the NDIC indicated under recoveries made that he had liquidated the entire loan.
Chairman of the Committee, Senator Nkechi Nwaogu, named the affected former directors on the floor of the Senate shortly after the consideration of the Committee’s report of the public/investigative hearing on the agonies of the depositors of the failed banks and financial institutions.
This was consequent upon the approval by the Senate of the fifth recommendation contained in the 12-page report in which the committee was asking for its (Senate) mandate to publish the names of those involved in the insider credit abuse.
The Upper House, in approving the recommendation, directed that Nwaogu should proceed immediately to reel out the names contained in a tentative report presented to the committee by the NDIC.
The report, signed by NDIC Board Director/Director, Legal Department, A.B. Nyako, entiled: “Re: Schedule of Insider Credit of Banks Closed on 16th January, 2006,” said: “We refer to your letter dated 25th June, 2008 in respect of the above subject and forward herewith, the attached updated schedule of insider credits of 13 closed banks as at June 2008.
“Please note that in view of the fact that the accounts are insider related, the records are constantly being reviewed and reconciled. Accordingly, some of the figures reported are tentative.”
By reading the names on the floor, Nwaogu and members of her committee enjoyed parliamentary immunity. No legal action can be instituted against them.
Nwaogu was, however, hesitant despite enjoying legislative immunity, to release the names. There was mild drama before she declassified the list.
Many senators, including Olorunnimbe Mamora, Bassey Ewa-Henshaw, Ahmad Lawan and Ayogu Eze, supported the disclosure of the insider credit abusers, while a few including Senator Joseph Akaagerger initially opposed on the ground that some of the former directors are now chairmen of boards of some Federal Government agencies.
Mamora said: “A lot of violation and disregard for rules was carried out by the banks executives. There must be mechanism for enforcement of rules to bring this people to book.”
Lawan stated: “What happened in the bank was a betrayal of public trust. It was abuse of trust that people would put their money and because some people were privileged to know some directors, they would take money without due process, without even paying back.”
Senate President David Mark ruled that Nwaogu should read out the names, declaring that the Senate as an institution must be upright in the fight against corruption.
He said failure to announce the names of the creditors would amount to shielding corrupt people in the society. Nwaogu spent about 30 minutes reeling out the names and the details of the credit and recoveries made by the NDIC.
Some of the details reeled out by Nwaogu indicated that the highest insider credit abuser was a former director of failed Gulf Bank, Adeyeba Adekunle Johns, who got about N7 billion.
Banigo, former Chairman of failed All States Trust Bank, got about N3.2 billion with only N10 million recovered from him so far.
The remaining outstanding of about N11.8 billion was got by companies against whom no directors’ names were indicated. An individual (Prof. Nta Henshaw) got N17.9 million, bringing the outstanding balance to N15,170, 852,591.19.
Others are: Eagle Bank former directors - Alhaji Ibrahim Aminu Saleh and Abbati Aminu Saleh (N26.918 million) - who were personally guaranteed by their father and former Secretary to the Government of the Federation, Alhaji Aminu Saleh; and Paul Achimugu (N5.5 million), among others.
Trade Bank: Alhaji K.A. Olatunde (N13.3 million); Alhaji S.Y. Abdullahi (N1.25 billion); Lafiagi (N1.156 million) and David Chuka Nwosu (N3.4 million), among others.
Gulf Bank: Alhaji Sanusi Ado Bayero (N45.003 million); Babajide Rogers (N11.874 million); and Muyiwa Osho (N242.1 million).
City Express Bank: Prince Samuel Adedoyin and Mrs. Sola Adeoti (who both got N5.584 billion out which N453 million has been recovered so far).
Assurance Bank of Nigeria Plc: Angela Onyeador (N30.7 million); Chuka Nwokoko (N31.9 million); and Moore Onyekaba (N3.6 million), among others.
African Express Bank: Sir Emeka Offor through his Chrome Oil Services and other related companies got N15 billion and has repaid over half of the sum taken as loan.
Offor however, said he had defrayed his debt to less than N900 million and that he was at the verge of offsetting the balance when the report was made public by the Senate.
Liberty Bank: Chief Victor Odili (got N41.1 million; N10.6 million and another N2.6 million got in the name of Colodense Nigeria Limited) and Dr. T.C. Osanakpo (N43.6 million got in the name of Rison Palm Limited).
Hallmark Bank: Alhaji B.I. Bunu, Chief F.E.C. Adiele, Chief Jude Akpunku, Dr. Sam Eke, Nnamdi Anyaehie, Nze Maduako and others got a total of N9.3 billion.
Lead Bank: J.I. Abulime (N5.8 million); Mallam Saleh Jambo (N17.2 million); Captain Onu and Chief Dubem Onyia (both got N26.6 million in the name of Easy Link Aviation).
Metropolitan Bank: Senator Chris Adighije (N1.9 million); Senator Mike Ajaegbo (N210 million)’ Chief (Mrs) Remi Adiukwu-Bakare (over N1.093 billion); Great Ogboru (N799.7 million); Oladapo Sarumi (N3.8 million); and Chief S. O. Bakare (about N800 million).
After she rounded off and laid the report on the table of the Senate, Senator Enyinaya Abaribe (PDP, Abia South) raised the alarm that Nwaogu’s mobile phone was already being inundated with text messages threatening her life.
Mark, however, assured her that the Senate would request the Inspector General of Police (IGP) to provide her and members of the committee with adequate security to protect them.
He said the Senate was proud of them and that the Upper House would not abandon them after having done a great job in the interest of the nation.
According to him, “You have performed wonderfully. I commend you for the courage to bring this to limelight. You do not need to be afraid for what you have done for your country as those that have sent you the text messages should first think twice about their actions.
“We stand by you; we are together in this and we take full responsibilities for this report. It is a far-reaching report. We will do what we have to do. We must play by the rules. Those names here should be ashamed of themselves.”
Meanwhile, the Senate approved the other 14 recommendations by the Nwaogu-led Committee.
For instance, it recommended that the NDIC and all banks involved in the purchase and assumption (of failed banks) should embark on renewed public awareness and sensitisation campaign in the print and electronic media on the payment procedures to enable depositors in pre-and post consolidation failed banks, come forward for their deposits.
It also recommended that the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) should re-examine the practice under “Purchase and Assumption” whereby assuming banks are allowed to cherry pick the good assets of failed banks and leave only the government to take responsibility for the bad ones.
In addition, it recommended that the Senate should direct the NDIC to come up with a plan for immediate payment of all depositors irrespective of the pending court cases and to put a definite deadline for completion of the process.

Debtors to Failed Banks…

Adeyeba Adekunle Johns
N7b (Gulf Bank)
Alhaji Sanusi Ado Bayero
N45.003 million
Babajide Rogers
N11.874 million
Muyiwa Osho
N242.1 million
Ebitimi Banigo
N3.2b with N10 million recovered
(All States Trust Bank)
Professor Nta Henshaw
N17.9 million
Alh I.Aminu Saleh & A. Aminu Saleh - N26.918 million (Eagle Bank)
Paul Achimugu - N5.5 million
Alh K.A. Olatunde
N13.3 million (Trade Bank)
Alh S.Y.Abdullahi
N1.25bn
Alh Sha’aba Lafiagi
N1.156 million
David Chuka Nwosu
N3.4 million
Prince S. Adedoyin & Mrs. Sola Adeoti
N5.584b with N453 million recovered (City Express Bank)
Angela Onyeador
N30.7 million (Assurance Bank of Nigeria plc)
Chuka Nwokoko
N31.9 million
Moore Onyekaba
N3.6 million
Sir Emeka Ofor- N7.5bn with N3.8bn recovered (African Express Bank)
Chief Victor Odili
N54.3 million (Liberty Bank)
Dr. T.C. Osanakpo - N43.6 million
Alh B.I. Bunu, Chief F.EC. Adiele, Chief Jude Akpunku, Dr. Sam Eke, Nnamdi Anyaehie, Nze Maduako
N9.3bn (Hallmark Bank)
J.I. Abulime - N5.8 million (Lead Bank)
Mallam Saleh Jambo - N17.2 million
Captain Onu & Chief D. Onyia
N26.6 million
Sen Chris Adighije
N1.9 million (Metropolitan Bank)
Sen Mike Ajaegbo - N210 million
Chief (Mrs.) R. Adiukwu-Bakare
over N1.093 billion
Great Ogboru - N799.7 million
Oladapo Sarumi - N3.8 million
Chief S.O. Bakare - N800 million

Source: [url=http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=148176
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banom:
Even tithe payers loose millions.
Though i think the pastor quoted from ,

personal Pocket Bible, chapter hungry ,verse 1.

the bolded part cracked me up for sure- got me laughing out real loud.

First of all, sorry for your loss. Critically analyse your income and expenditure as well as your movement so you can avoid such loss in the future.
There are about 2.2 billion (1/3rd) of the world population 6.6 billion living in China and India. The people of these two countries are getting richer and richer for the past 15 - 20 years even though they are not mainly Christians not to talk of tithers. Most luxury brands and designers are now opening business there to cater for the new and expnading middle & upper class. Due to overall growing wages in China, Western manufacturers are moving their production to poorer countries such as Myanmar (Burma), Vietnam etc, the same way factoriues are closing in Nigeria to reopen in Ghana since we do not have infrastructures etc.
My dear sister, shine your eyes, read your Bible and let no pharisee-pastor mislead you with his tithe lies!

The word “tithe” orignally meant ten percent (10%). The “tithe,” however, is only a barometer or guideline to help determine one’s sacrificial giving. Some can and should offer more than a 10% tithe; others may have circumstances that warrant them paying less than a 10% tithe.
. . .

If a tithe (10%) is legitimately too much for one’s current budget, a member may begin with a lower percentage that will be both sacrificial and yet possible. Then the member may gradually raise the level of giving until the full tithe is reached. In this way brothers and sisters and families are making a decision for the Lord first and only afterward considering their own needs and wants.

[note: apart from quoting malachi 3:4-10, it was later down the page that they quoted only verse 10 in their teaching:

302. Additional Scriptures on this call to trust are: Mal 3:10; Mt 6:19-34; Lk 12:22-32; 1 Tm 6:17-19.]
source: Legion of the Order of St. Michael (Catholic)

pilgrim,

how can you reach a full tithe when it (10%) has been described as a barometer or guideline?
Is it not obvious to you that since churches cannot biblically sustain the obligation to pay 10% (tenth/tithe) they modify it as much as possible without touching the obligatory aspect

debosky:

Then Jacob made a vow, saying, "If God will be with me and will keep me on this journey that I take, and will give me food to eat and garments to wear, and I return to my father's house in safety, then the LORD will be my God. And this stone, which I have set up as a pillar, will be God's house; and of all that Thou dost give me I will surely give a tenth to Thee." Genesis 28:20-22

a tenth = tithe. He did not practise what the Levitical order involved, but he did give 10% of all God gave him. As reflected in Jacob's case - the decision to GIVE should be made in your heart.

In the text you quoted from the Bible, Jacob promised he will surely give (future tense). Nowhere did the Bible say he actually gave subsequently.
However, in order to butress your exploitative tithe principle, which even has no bearing to the OT source, you state "he did give 10% of all God gave him"

Each time you see an unemployed Nigerian or hear about your relation or friend roobed or kidnapped, you can see those names who deprived others of employment by their brazen stealing in the name of insider borrowing.

‘4yrs After, Failed Banks’ Customers Yet to be Paid N188bn’

Chairman, Senate Committee on Banking and Finance, Senator Nkechi Nwaogu, yesterdaay said over N188 billion of depositors’ funds trapped in failed banks four years ago are yet to be paid to the beneficiaries.
Nwaogu, who made this known yesterday in Abuja at the West Africa Regional Conference on Smart and Appropriate Technologies for Rural Commu-nities, said it was sad that bank directors and other influential people that contributed to the collapse of the affected banks, by borrowing through the back door, now have new portfolios and are living in opulence, while ordinary customers of such banks are living in penury.
She said: “If you notice the figure in question, the people we are talking of now are the former directors and managing directors and chairmen board of directors of those banks that failed. We are not talking about people who borrowed money from the banks in the cause of their doing business. No! And we are saying that it is not fair for these directors, including insiders privileges, to borrow so much money for one thing or the other and at the end of the day these banks died and they died with customers' money.
Can we now ask over 60 percent of the population who do not have bank accounts to go and have bank accounts and blame them for putting their money under their pillow cases? “Then, will it be nice when they put their money at the end of the day these banks go underground deliberately or not deliberately and they are not paid their deposits. Four years down the line and the people who borrowed through the back doors are unable to pay. What the Senate is saying is that we must begin to be our brothers’ keepers. We must sanitise. We are talking of rebranding, we must rebrand from within, we rebrand from ourselves. And some of these people or board members are now real big men with new portfolio. Is it right?" Given this scenario, Nwaogu called on the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) and the Nigeria Deposit Insurance Corporation (NDIC) to pay the depositors to assuage their sufferings because the aggrieved had been bombarding the National Assembly with petitions.
But Chairman, Doyin Group of Companies, Prince Samuel Adedoyin, had stated that the City Express Bank which he chaired was no longer owing any depositor, saying , rather , he was the one being owed for overpaying depositors by over N400 million.
Adedoyin, in a statement made available to THISDAY, was reacting to reports published in some national dailies yesterday that the Senate Committee that looked into the depositors' fund with the failed banks indicted him and City Express Bank which he chaired.
Adedoyin said he was particularly disturbed by the reports because, according to him, he "went the extra mile to ensure that City Express Bank owes no one anything after it was declared unfit to remain in operation."
Adedoyin, who appealed to President Umaru Yar'Adua to urge restraint on the path of the Senate "so that the innocent is not punished unjustly by such malicious and wicked report," added that " My fervent hope is that someone is not trying to score a cheap political point by including my name, that of my company and that of Funke in the report."
Adedoyin had also said in his statement: "The indictment, by a committee chaired by Senator Nkechi Nwaogu, is a very disturbing development to me as an industrialist who has contributed in no small measure to the development of the industrial sector of the country.
"City Express Bank is no longer owing any depositor. Rather, I am the one who is being owed for overpaying depositors by over N400 million. The case is already in court in order to enable me recover the excess I paid to the depositors. I had to sell part of my estate in Abuja to pay the depositors when the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) ruled that City Express Bank was not solid enough to continue in business by a yardstick that is still unclear to me and a lot of people.
"In the said report, it was imputed that my estate in Abuja, Peniel Estate, took a loan from City Express Bank. This is indeed untrue and very embarrassing. So also did the said report indict my daughter, Funke Adedoyin, a former Minister of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, for having taken loans from City Express Bank. This is indeed untrue as Funke never did so. I wonder when and how she got the loan that is not in the records of the bank. Except, of course, one has been doctored."
Nwaogu has however said that her committee was not witch-hunting former directors of the 13 failed banks who were named on Senate floor on Tuesday.In response to the declassification of his name among the insider credit abusers, Senator Chris Adighije (2003-2007) had accused Nwaogu of playing bad politics. Nwaogu defeated Adighije in the Abia Central Senatorial District election in 2007. The Court of Appeal recently order a retrial of the election petition which the lower tribunal had ruled in favour of Nwaogu.
“We don’t have any political motive at all. The Senate mandated us to investigate the plight of Nigerian depositors of failed banks and the NDIC supplied the relevant information, we have no business to doubt the credibility of (NDIC),” she said.


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sesman:
Source Please

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If you know any of these people, as your parent, child, relation, friend, church/mosque/shrine mate, ex-classmate etc, I will ask you to request them to return ordinary depositors' money. If they do not heed the advice you should isolate and ostracise them.
Acts like this that go unpunished is what makes Nigeria a laughing stock while Ghana is making progress and companies are relocating there thus creating more unemployment and greater insecurity here.

BTW, Ithink this should be on the front page of Nairaland.

Sofrry, soffry oh for una jest make another ManU fan no go vex kill people like the one in the story below:
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Nigeria United fan kills rivals

A Manchester United football fan in south-eastern Nigeria drove a minibus into a crowd of Barcelona supporters, killing four people, police say.
Ten other people were wounded in the incident in Ogbo town, after United lost Wednesday's European Champions League Final 2-0 to the Spanish team.
A police spokeswoman told Reuters news agency: "The driver passed the crowd, then made a U-turn and ran into them."
He is now in police custody. Both teams have a large fan base in Nigeria.
"The man confessed to doing it on purpose," police spokeswoman Rita Inoma Abbey told the BBC.
"He now says he doesn't know why he did it, but it was an intentional act."
Football fans across Africa closely follow the European leagues, which recruit some of the continent's best players.
Earlier this month, a Kenyan Arsenal fan hanged himself after his team's defeat in Champions League semi-final second leg by Manchester United.

BBC

Meanwhile we dey fear for stand up against our local thugs called politicians whose thieving ways are killing all aspects of our life, including sports!

Okere: Arogundade Appeals Court Ruling
By Davidson Iriekpen, 05.27.2009

Rear Admiral Arogundade and the Nigerian Navy have filed an appeal at the Court of Appeal in Lagos, challenging the ruling of a  Lagos High Court which dismissed their applications.
Justice Opeyemi Oke had last week dismissed Arogundade's application, seeking leave of the court to admit oral evidence in a suit instituted by Uzoma Okere and her friend, Abdulahi Abdulazeez.
The judge had said that there were documentary evidences before the court that could be used to adjudicate on the matter hence there was no need for oral evidence.
However, at the resumed hearing of the suit yesterday, counsel to the respondents, Lawrence Imolode from Bolaji Ayorinde’s chambers informed the court that an appeal had been filed against the ruling of the court. He also disclosed that the claimant counsel had been served with the Motion on Notice.
Specifically, the said motion is seeking the leave of the court to appeal against the ruling on the court delivered on May 20, 2009.
The motion is also praying the court for an order for stay of proceedings pending the determination of the appeal.
However, counsel to Okere urged the court grant a short adjournment to enable her respond by filling counter affidavit. The matter  was later adjourned till June 22 for hearing of the Motion on Notice filed by the respondents.
The court had in its ruling held that the need for oral evidence could only arose when the documentary evidence before the court are not sufficient to enable the court arrive at a just conclusion.
Justice Oke in her ruling also held that the application for oral evidence was unnecessary and to allow it would be to put the cart before the horse.
She maintained that for the application to succeed the conflicts in question must be tangible and not intangible; it must be material and not immaterial, adding that when the conflict is cosmetic and inarticulate or farce, a court of law will not order or call for oral evidence.
Uzoma Okere and Abdulahi Abdulazeez  are  asking the court to declare the acts of the respondents in torturing, stripping her naked, ruthless brutalizing and unlawful arrest and detention without any justification as unlawful and unconstitutional.
They want the court to compel the respondents to issue unreserved apologies to them for the violation of their fundamental human rights in at least four print and electronic media and pay the sum of N100 million as compensation.
The plaintiffs are also seeking for an order of perpetual injunction restraining the respondents and their agents from horsewhipping motorists and putting them in apprehension through reckless driving in siren-blaring convoy.
Okere and Abdulazeez further prayed the court to declare that the acts of intimidation, violence and reckless driving by the respondents on the public roads under the pretext of being military officers, violate her and other road users' rights to movement and dignity of human person.

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ICAN Expels 490 Members over Graft
From Chritopher Isiguzo in Abakiliki, 05.23.2009

Ebonyi

Determined to check the excesses of her members, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria (ICAN) has expelled about 490 members since the inception of the body 44 years ago.
President of the Institute, Dr Richard Uche, who made the disclosure in Abakaliki, Ebonyi State, said those who were expelled were found to have compromised the ethics of the profession as they indulged in corrupt practices.   
He said the Institute has strengthened its disciplinary processes and internal control system, coupled with corporate code of Ethics, geared towards monitoring the Licenses of   practitioners and will make the directors of companies to adhere with the code.   
“Corruption is all over the world and not only in Nigeria but it has taken disturbing dimension in Nigeria. As it regards to our members, we are also setting in motion to address the issue. I will be the first person to agree with you that some of our members are corrupt too. We set up disciplinary measure once you are reported for any corrupt practices; you will face the wrath of disciplinary process. From 1965 till date, over 490 members have been expelled by the institute for corrupt practices,” he stated. The ICAN chieftain also expressed dismay that Nigeria was yet to fully stamp out graft from its system despite the seeming enormous efforts so far made because of the inabilities of the government and its agencies to punish those involve in corrupt practices, “like our own body our power stopped at expelling the corrupt ones but beyond that those arrested for one fraud or corrupt practices or the other should be subjected for prosecution and should be brought to book, so that others will learn from it”.   
He further disclosed that special centres, have been created across the country, for the training of accounting Graduates, as well as research departments, stressing that the membership of ICAN, has increased from 250 to 27,000 and have 150,000 students in their register   
On the Global Economic meltdown, Uche said the institute have made contributions and inputs to cushion the effect and advised government to diversify to other areas of economic Growth, like Agriculture, Sold Minerals Exploitation, Coordination of polices, among others.   
“Government should begin to look into other areas like agriculture and not focusing or depending on crude oil. We have abundance of mineral resources in this country which is yet untapped. All we need is to look inward to improve on our agricultural potentials” he said.
He however stated that the body has thoroughly analyzed the 2009 Federal budget estimate and articulated its recommendations, on proper implementation of the Budget, to the government, to achieve the desired results.
Uche further said he was in the state to meet with members of ICAN to rob minds with them, “to address their peculiar problems and to intimate them on happenings at the headquarters and as well to visit tertiary institutions to inform the students about the professional body, the attribute they should posses in order to become full profession. It is also the process of catching them young and teaching them to imbibe with the ethics of the profession early enough”
The ICAN boss had earlier visited the state governor chief Martin Elechi on a courtesy call represented by the Secretary to the State Governemnt Chief Fidelis Mbam where the government promised to partner with the institute for the capacity building in the state. He later had an audience with Accountancy students of Ebonyi state university and phone-in programme at UnityFM Abakaliki about the programmes of the institute.   
In his Speech at the occasion, the Chairman of Abakaliki district of the Institute of chartered Accountants of Nigeria, Mr. Zoran, Okpani, said that the body has established two Institution centres for the training of members on modern skills and acquisition.     

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Just one example of what can be done to make positive change.

[quote author=sparkle. link=topic=274656.msg3903095#msg3903095 date=1242929529]Banom, Jakumo, Tudor what's goin on? Do u guys have a personal grudge against Pastor Adeboye? Jakumo, u actually put up the picture of a gorilla as him! That is so crude. Even if u think he's fake, u don't have to be so extreme. Removing religion from the issue, culture and common sense have taught us to respect our elders. my goodness!!![/quote]not when the elder dey pack sh*t rub for sheeple dem mouth and dey spoil our common name- Nigerians.
BTW, I am sure you know culture and common sense are dynamic i.e. changing and evolving over time.

oludashmi:
You see? you said the law will catch up with them, GOOD. Leave the law to catch up with them.

did you write the bold part above as a dutiful, law-abiding xtian?
maybe yo want to re-read it.
don't you think it is your responsibility as a citizen to help ensure that everyone abides with the law and reporting offenders if and when you see them?

Becomrich:
Fashola can not tax the church because the church is a charity? if fashola have issue with anyone, if pastor adeboye like someone said. he could approach him.

dude,
did you read the post at all?
The churches and mosques are registered charities, we know BUT their heads (pastors and imams) earn incomes and have personal assets!
the thread says to tax pastors and imams NOT their churches and mosques.
Can you address that PLEEEEEAAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEEE!!!

Four Years after, Army to Pay SAN N100m for Assault
By Davidson Iriekpen, 05.21.2009

Before Ms Uzoma Okere was brutalised by Naval ratings, there was a case Nigerians never knew of – that of a Senior Advocate of Nigeria (SAN), Chief Mike Igbokwe (SAN), who was battered along the Lagos-Ibadan Expressway four years ago by two soldiers.
Juistice was served late but warm yesterday by a Federal High Court in Lagos which awarded Igbokwe N100 million as general and aggravated damages.
In his judgment, presiding judge, Justice Tijani Abubakar, described the soldiers’ action as “brazen recklessness” which must be condemned.
Justice Abubakar also said that the actions of the soldiers were totally “wild, barbaric and uncivilized” and must not be allowed in any decent society.
The judge chided the Army authorities for its indifference even after the incident was reported to the Chief of Army Staff.
He ordered that the defendants offer public apology to the plaintiffs which must be published in two national newspapers in the country.
He said: "Having reviewed the evidence tendered before this court, I submit that action of the 4th defendant was totally wild, barbaric and uncivilised such that it must not be allowed in any decent society. Above all, his masters who have the responsibility to condemn such actions appear to be indifferent. Such brazen recklessness must be condemned. The action of the 4th defendant and his colleague to wit; assaulting and battering the plaintiffs on the 23 of December 2005, is unlawful and unconstitutional.
"I award the sum of N100 million to the plaintiffs against the defendants as general and aggravated damages arising from the unlawful and degrading acts of the 4th defendant and his colleague. I order that the defendants offer public apology to the plaintiffs to be published in two widely-circulated newspapers in Nigeria."
Igbokwe and one Joseph Ito, a business man, had dragged the Attorney-General of the Federation, Chief of Army Staff, the Nigerian Army and one Sgt Samuel Udagbe before the court for the infringement of his rights to human dignity.
The plaintiffs, in their statement of claim, said they were travelling to Ijebu-Ode on December 23, 2005 when between Kilometre 55 and 56 on the Lagos-Ibadan Expres-sway, Igbokwe overtook an Army Landover which was on the left hand side of the road to avoid a vehicle that was in his front which was slowing down.
The senior advocate stated that shortly after overtaking the Army vehicle, it suddenly hit the rear bumper of his Mercedes Benz E240 car, adding that as a result, he was shocked and frightened and thereafter made effort to park and check the extent of damage.
He said while he was making efforts to park, he noticed that the Landrover was moving menacingly towards his car and could further hit him but he accelerated his car to avoid being rammed into.
Igbokwe said 200 metres after, he ran into a heavy traffic-jam occasioned by the repairs on the road, noting that while slowing down, the Landrover blocked his car and to his surprise and consternation, the occupiers alighted armed with cable whip and gun menacingly towards him.
According to him, even though he quickly identified himself as a Senior Advocate of Nigeria, the soldiers angrily demanded his keys and before he could ask why, they descended on him with slaps and whips, thereby inflicting serious injuries on him and destroying his eyeglasses in the process.
He said he suffered humiliation and degradation as he was being beaten up without justification in the full glare of several onlookers.
Reacting to the judgment, Igbokwe said why he decided to seek redress was for the soldiers to know that they must learn to subject themselves to democratic norms.
He said for the soldiers to have horse and cable whips with them showed that they had been using them on other innocent Nigerians who had not been challenging them.
Ironically, the Army failed to enter an appearance in the case – an attitude that many believed must have infuriated the judge.

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Okere: Judge throws out Arogundade’s application
Tony Amokeodo

A Lagos High Court, on Wednesday, threw out an application by Rear Admiral Harry Arogundade and some unidentified Naval ratings, asking the court to admit oral evidence in a suit by Miss Uzoma Okere and her friend, Abdulahi Abdulazeez, following the ratings’ alleged assault on them.
In her ruling on Arogundade and the ratings‘ application, Justice Opeyemi Oke held that there was documentary evidence before the court that could be used to to hear the case, insisting that there was no need for oral evidence.
According to the judge, the need for oral evidence can only arise when the documentary evidence before the court is not sufficient to enable it arrive at a just decision.
She said, “I hold that the application is unnecessary and to allow it would be to put the cart before the horse.
“For the application to succeed, the conflicts in question must be tangible and not intangible. It must be material and not immaterial.
“When the conflict is cosmetic and inarticulate or farce, a court of law will not order or call for oral evidence.
“I have carefully considered the application and the counter -affidavit and I hold that both parties have filed documentary evidence which the court can look at and it is only when this documentary evidence is not enough that the court can demand for oral evidence”
Justice Oke, who further upheld the argument of the lawyer to Okere and Abdulazeez, Mr Lawal Pedro (SAN), held that under Fundamental Human Right Procedures, the court was empowered to suo motu (afresh), call for oral evidence.
She added that when there was conflict in averments, the court might call for oral evidence.
Lawyer to Arogundade and other defendants, Chief Bolaji Ayorinde (SAN), had in the instant application, urged the court to grant leave to his clients to cross- examine Okere and Abdulazeez in view of the allegations made against his clients.
Ayorinde had argued that in view of the conflicting affidavits sworn to by Okere and Abdulazeez and the defendants, the best way for the court to resolve the issue was for the applicants to enter into the witness box and be cross-examined.
But Pedro, who is also the Solicitor-General of Lagos State, opposed the application.
He argued that it was within the discretion of court to either grant the application or not, saying that the court must take into consideration the facts placed before it.
Lawal also argued that the recorded documentary evidence of the event was sufficient enough to resolve any conflicting issue that might arise in the matter.
Justice Oke had adjourned the case till May 26 for hearing of Okere’s substantive application.

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He explained that the compliance might not affect pastors and imams who depended on tithes and zakat, but those who employed by churches and mosques for religious purpose.

even those ones who don't earn a salary should be taxed based on their personal expenditures and Networth increase (net assets bought) in the tax period. A man who owns his church or mosque may even be earning more than those employed on salaries.

it has helped me confirm the questions i had about christian practice by its current leaders in nigeria and elsewhere. it has also helped me refresh my faith in christ and dig deeper into his life, words and works to withstand the charlattans who are masquerading as his modern day representatives but have no similarity with christ when you put their acts under biblical scritiny as we are supposed to.
in particular, i thank KunleOshob for his tithes threads. may God richly reward him-Amen.
meanwhile thank you, bawomolo, for raising this thread. some assessment every now and then on this journey is very useful.
have a nice week.

chidichris:
remember:
1. do not judge so that ye shall not be judged

are you sure you are a christian yourself? Have you read and meditated on the Bible text you quoted above? It is found in Matthew 7:

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

what does the part in red say? if you want to disobey christ so as to allow yourself to still be manipulated and misled, that is your choice for which there are consequences.

mystics:
By their fruits you shall know them. If you knw christ like you claim, you wont come here and spit all those nonsense because of what u feel.

And what are Adeboye's fruits vis-a-vis what Christ said thereon in Matthew 7:

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

benard08:
Here is the Federal Government salary range for MLS in Nigeria

Intern MLS is the least-About N70,000 monthly

Director Salary is around N350,000 monthly

Labor unions are currently vigorously agitating for significant increase in emolument.

cheers

tidy amounts up there.
are they paid regularly or they are also owed many months in arrears! hence have to do PP by the side to make ends meet.
how about states salary scales and private establishments?

to answer the question: you & I are waht's wrong with our tax system.
if you pay because you are an employee somewhere, do you know if your organisation remits correctly to the Revenue Office? Do you bother if your relations and friends pay tax?

Misplaced priorities.
House dey burn, papa dey chase rats.

Akunyili solicits UK’s support for rebranding project
By Tunde Odesola with agency report
Published: Tuesday, 12 May 2009

Barely a month after the Minister of Information and Communications, Prof. Dora Akunyili, said Nigeria would rely only on internal assistance to prosecute the country’s rebranding projects, she has asked for the support of Britain for the success of the campaign.
According to the News Agency of Nigeria, she said this on Monday when the British High Commissioner to Nigeria, Mr. Bob Dewar, paid her a courtesy visit in Abuja.
“We count on you to help us in this journey of rebranding Nigeria and we pray that by the grace of God it will succeed.
“We know that we are doing what is just and the best for the generation unborn. We will continue to come and talk with you to know how to improve this laudable project,’’ she said.
She said there was a need to nurture the relations between the two countries, adding that the UK had become a second home to many Nigerians.
“I am happy that you are in support of this rebranding project. I look forward to getting some help from you on this work of letting the world know that Nigeria is not where nothing works,’’ she said.
Akunyili also said the Yar‘Adua administration was determined to make Nigeria more investment-friendly.
Earlier, Dewar said his visit was to discuss issues on shared values such as freedom of speech.
He commended the idea of rebranding Nigeria, saying that the country had all it takes to lead the African continent.
He also commended the contribution of the media in the Nigeria’s democratic process, adding that much was expected of them particularly in the rebranding agenda.
“We hope to make our own contribution to ensure that the positive image of Nigeria is projected across the world,’’ he said.
During the inauguration of the image laundering project in April, the minister had said it was “a Nigerian project for Nigerians” and that it would make no sense taking it abroad.
She added that it would be financed with the N150m set aside for the defunct Heart of Africa Project in the 2009 budget.
Meanwhile, embezzlement of public funds has been described as the greatest challenge facing the Federal Government’s effort at rebranding the country.
The Bishop, Ife-East Diocese, Church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion), Right Rev. Rufus Okeremi, stated this in an address during the Second Diocesan Council meeting held at St. Michael Anglican Church, Modakeke in Osun State.
According to a copy of the address obtained by our correspondent in Osogbo, on Monday, Nigeria is a wasteful country, whose leaders have no shame about looting public funds.

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mystics:
shallow minded imp, when i mean death, i mean spiritual death, in the lake of hell that has been prepared for the devil and his fellowers like you.

I thought you were asking others not to judge your pastors and his acts. Can't you stick to your own advice to others. Haven't you heard the cardinal principle of Christianity:

"Do unto others as you will have them do unto you"

mystics:
I urge you to accept the salvation of God and come to repentance

I did already hence I am no longer under the yoke of marauding fraudsters like Adeboye but daily refresh my understanding of God and the life, work and words of Christ, His Son and my Saviour. I urge you to do the same!

mystics:
We dont earn that life, God has given it to all who will recieve, i urge you recieve my friend, it sad to see that your headed for the hell. it hurts, but i cant free you, God has done what he said he will do, do your quickly, you dont own you life remember?

passing judgement yet again. how about freeing yourself first from the hypnosis of your fake pastors and look unto Jesus Christ instead.
Let me leave you with this text, from Christ, to meditate on, John 12:25

He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

mystics:
@good people, many times have i called your attention to this fact, cant you see what this sons of the devil who are not children of God are dragging u into, wasting you precious time. Banom obviously has no God, he is not a devil himself and unless he repent he is dead, he does not know anything about God, he will not display his stupidity, we are christians and we dont fight Jihad. HE IS EVIL. dont post here anymore, let him and his cohorts keep THEIR THREAD BURNING with the DEVILS FIRE.

apparently you know someone in this world who has lived forever without dying at all.
do you mind sharing their names with us who are not as knowledgeable as yourself?
thanks in advance.

And below is Adeboye's prophecy for 2009:

THIS WILL BE THE YEAR OF JOY TO THE WISE (PROPHECY FOR YEAR 2009)

PROPHECY FOR INDIVIDUAL:

o As stars at midnight, the economic gloom that is coming upon the world will produce some very bright spot .( In other words; in spite of the economic problems that the world is going to have this year, some children of God is going to have financial breakthrough)

o Every year has its up and down, 2009 will be no exception in that regard. However for the children of God the ups will out way the down in magnitude and frequency. In other words the great day for the children of God will be greater than the gloom day.

PROPHECY FOR NIGERIA:

o Intensify your prayers for the president

o Nigeria will be given a new opportunity for peace and tranquility, pray that it will not be wasted.

o Those who have made money their gods will discover it has strong wings.

o Problems will drive many back to God; with the end result of heavenly joy.

o Pray against suicide among the high and mighty.

PROPHECY FOR THE WORLD:

o Concentrated prayers are needed to reduce the frequency and intensity of natural disaster. Flood, hurricane, earthquake, tornadoes are coming, but God say if you pray concentrated prayers their frequency and intensity will be reduced.

o Pray against assassination attempt against world leaders.

PROPHECY FOR THE REDEEMED CHRISTAN CHURCH OF GOD (RCCG):

o The Lord said "I will do a new thing".

o Return quickly to your first love of holiness, prayer, evangelism & self sacrifice if you are to benefit fully from the new things God is about to do.

o Intensify your prayers for elders. (If any of them has to die, it must lead to heaven).

o Intensify your prayers for the youths so that their foundation will be more standard than it is now (because the coming revival will be like a flood).

o Move up to a higher level of personal devotion to Me (God) and the reward will outstandingly challenge those who are around you.

- JOY TO THE WISE.

RCCG International web site

@ cicero,

your # 124 post had these "authentic" 2007 prophecies of daddy GO:

Below is Pastor Adeboye’s prophecy copied from the RCCG website verbatim. Compare and contrast this with the above posting.

PROPHECY FOR INDIVIDUAL

1. The Year will be a pleasant year for heaven seekers
2. It will not be a very pleasant year for the Lukewarm and Backsliders
3. For Heaven Seekers, there will be accelerated promotion as a result of divine Guidance and Involvement
4. Rewards for dedication and commitment to God’s work will be in the form of Blessings that will exceed all human imaginations
5. For some there will be unexpected dramatic promotions both Physically and especially Spiritually
6. Some will experience a complete change in Direction and destiny
7. For some, there will be incidence of great Joy and celebrations

PROPHECY FOR NIGERIA

1. Coming Elections will be far more peaceful than expected but serious prayers will be needed afterwards
2. Economic recovery will continue
3. This year will mark the beginning of the end for a principal enemy of this nation
4. Major Anti-Christians will suffer private and personal mishaps

PROPHECY FOR THE WORLD

1. Intense prayers is needed to at least ameliorate major catastrophes like Floods, Earthquakes and Hurricanes
2. An Evil Organization will suffer yet another terrible blow

Would you actually describe the above as prophecy i.e. revelation from God about specific future occurence whose coming to pass/thruthfulness can be checked. These are mostly permutations/probability from this ex-lecturer of mathematics.
Compare with Christ's words in Matthew 12:40

For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Yet Adeboye claims to be a Christian i.e. follower of Christ?

Uzoma: Court rules on oral evidence admissibility May 20
Written by Innocent Anaba

A Lagos judge, Justice Opeyemi Oke, will on May 20, rule on an application by Rear-Admiral Harry Arogundade and some unidentified Naval ratings seeking leave of the court to admit oral evidence in a suit by Miss Uzoma Okere and her friend, Abdulahi Abdulazeez, who were allegedly brutalised by the ratings attached to Arogundade last year. At the resumed hearing of the N100 million suit, counsel to the respondents, Chief Bolaji Ayorinde (SAN), prayed  the court to grant leave to the respondents to cross-examine the applicants (Uzoma Okere and Abdulahi Abdulazeez) in view of the allegations made against them (respondents).
Ayorinde argued that in view of the conflicting affidavits sworn to by the applicants and the respondents, the only way out for the court to resolve the issue was for the applicants to enter the witness box and be cross-examined.
He urged the court to grant the application, contending that grievous allegations were made against the respondents, which ought to be resolved once and for all.
He argued that the best for the court to get to the truth of what actually transpired was through oral evidence.
Ayorinde contending that the video evidence tendered by the applicants did not show what transpired before and after the incident complained of and that there was no police report to back up the allegation levelled at his clients.
Opposing the application, the Solicitor-General of Lagos State, Mr. Lawal Pedro (SAN), admitted that it was within the discretion of court to either grant the application or not,  but that the court must take into consideration the facts placed before it.
He argued that the court could refuse the application when there is documentary evidence before it or on a point of law.
According to him, the recorded documentary evidence of the event was sufficient enough to resolve any conflicting issue that arose in the matter.
He further argued that the nature of the suit brought under the Fundamental Human Rights Procedure does not give room for oral evidence to be taken.
The Lagos State Ministry of Justice, Office of Public Defender, Lagos brought the suit on behalf of the applicants, who were allegedly brutalised by armed naval ratings attached to Admiral Arogundade last year.

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Naval Ratings: Court to Rule May 20
By Davidson Iriekpen, 05.07.2009

Justice Opeyemi Oke of the Lagos High Court, will on May 20, 2009, rule on an application filed by Rear Admiral Harry Arogundade, and some unidentified Naval ratings, seeking leave of the court to admit oral evidence in a suit instituted by Uzoma Okere and her friend, Abdulahi Abdulazeez.
Okere and Abdulazeez were both victims of Naval Ratings attached to Arogundade, who beat them up and stripped Okere naked, for "blocking his way on the road."
At the resumed hearing of the N100 million suit yesterday, counsel to the Respondents, Chief Bolaji Ayorinde, SAN, urged the court to grant them leave to cross-examine the applicants, in view of  allegations made against them.
Moving the application dated April 24, 2009, Ayorinde said in view of the conflicting affidavits sworn to by  applicants and  respondents, the only way out for the court to resolve the issue was for the applicants to enter the witness box and be cross-examined.
Ayorinde  urged the court to grant the application, adding that the grievous allegations were made against the respondents, which ought to be resolved once and for all.
Opposing the application, Lagos State Solicitor General, Mr Lawal Pedro, SAN, admitted that it was within the discretion of court to either grant the application or not, adding that the court must take into consideration the facts placed before it.

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